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twinalchemistdark
<Moved the thread from FMA Anime American audience sub-forum to FMA Anime forum section front. 02/03/07 ~Tombow>

i would.
definetly would, theres a few people that i want back and would give anything, even my own life to see again.
sweety_pie
I don't know if I could. I mean if I tried and it didn't work, and the person was someone I really loved I would feel so sad because I couldn't bing them back. And after seeing what happened to Ed and Al when it didn't work for their Mom, I don't know if I could handle it.
Hoenhiemoflight
Well it depends, would they come back as one of the evil homunculus(no clue if I spelled that right) If so, then no, cause they would try and eat me blink.gif
MeLRizA
I do it to bring back my loved ones or save them.. Even if I would fail, I would still do it. BTW, I thought that humonculus won't turn evil unless you feed them with those red-stones?
Nepharski
QUOTE(MeLRizA @ May 27 2006, 11:51 AM) [snapback]402067[/snapback]

I do it to bring back my loved ones or save them.. Even if I would fail, I would still do it. BTW, I thought that humonculus won't turn evil unless you feed them with those red-stones?

According to Hohenheim, "They start out as innocent children, but over time their powers corrput them."

I can't think of anyone I'd want to try and tansmute. I feel that death is a sad yet unavoidable part of life. Besides, if I succeed, I'll just create a Homunculus...or a soulless doll.
MeLRizA
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QUOTE(MeLRizA @ May 27 2006, 11:51 AM) [snapback]402067[/snapback]

I do it to bring back my loved ones or save them.. Even if I would fail, I would still do it. BTW, I thought that humonculus won't turn evil unless you feed them with those red-stones?

According to Hohenheim, "They start out as innocent children, but over time their powers corrput them."

I can't think of anyone I'd want to try and tansmute. I feel that death is a sad yet unavoidable part of life. Besides, if I succeed, I'll just create a Homunculus...or a soulless doll.

After reading your post, I take back my words.. I think I'd rather not perform human alchemy, because both parties would have no happy ending smile.gif biggrin.gif simple as that..
www.freewebs.com/fmaotakuchan
Yeah, I would. I don't know who, but if i was sureit was possible i definitly would
sweety_pie
I agree with MelRiza. I couln't do a human transmutation, for fear that it wouldn't work.
Migchao
Yeah, I hate death. I don't care if I lost a limb or two, or maybe I'd die, seeing someone I missed so much is worth it. (Yes, I believe alchemy is possible in real life!) Besides, I'd rather lose limbs than have some one I love die, I'm one of those I-want-to-give-up-something-and-not-let-my-loved-ones-die kind of people and I'm really telling what I'd do. And I'm brave, I can handle it, I guess.
Popogeejo
Would your family really want you to loose a limb just so they might come back? I doubt it. It's all well and good being willing to make the sacrifice but what if you can't cope with the los of an arm or leg or a vital internal organ. What if your family doesn't want to come back to our world?

Human transmutation is far to selfish IMO.
Ücälypse
No, I guess there is no one dead that I really care about.

I wouldn't even think about it, unless someone enocounters a sudden death or something.
55th_animalalchemist
I wouldn`t do it, better let things right like they are.Because you don`t know what can happen if you do it.
Miyuki-chan
if I really want to bring back that person I would do a human transmutation.
r315razor
QUOTE(twinalchemistdark @ May 26 2006, 07:10 PM) [snapback]401358[/snapback]
i would.
definetly would, theres a few people that i want back and would give anything, even my own life to see again.


Lol. If you gave up your life to see the person again... how would you see the person if you were dead?

And no i wouldn't, because it would just bring about suffering. For me, for the person I tried to bring back, and for everyone who comes in contact with the humunculous that was created...
Colette
No.

Because I doubt the people I love would want me to sacrifice any bit of myself. They'd be guilty forever.

I doubt I have the will to transmutate a soul anyway. I'd probably fail and put suffering on everyone.

Death's a natural thing that shouldn't be tampered with. Did nobody pay attention to Izumi?
ed's numbuh 1 fan
it's more of it, Depends if i'd do it or not. . . right now i'd say "no way!" but if like. . .if somone close to me like my Grandma per-se died i might be driven to do it even thoguh i'd know the consequences, it might be selfish but humans are selfish beings aren't they? It would be wrong and i might die but if it means bringing back somone i love then i might actually do it if i could. ._.
Edward_Elric_17
I definitly would at least try to bring someone back...I know there's some people that I'd want to see again, but I'm not sure if I'd take that big of a risk...the possibility of dying or losing a limb is quite great, but then again, as people have mentioned...it would be worth the sacrifice to see loved ones again...so I suppose it could go either way
FMA4ever
QUOTE(twinalchemistdark @ May 26 2006, 06:10 PM) [snapback]401358[/snapback]

i would.
definetly would, theres a few people that i want back and would give anything, even my own life to see again.


I agree. There is a few people that were very close to me and that I would do anything to see again. sad.gif It makes me sad thinking about it.
Amethyst Sunset
Eh...I kinda believe in letting the dead stay dead. ^^;;; So I guess I wouldn't. But maybe my answer will change when someone uber-close to me dies...still, I wouldn't take the chance that I might create a Homunculus I wouldn't be able to control.
Vash_the_Gunslinger
I wouldn't because the risk is too great and I'd like to let nature take its course instead of trying to play God. No one has the right to toy with souls and the dead. But it would be really nice to see some of your closest friends or family members come back to life.
Nepharski
QUOTE(Vash_the_Gunslinger @ Jul 25 2006, 10:02 AM) [snapback]425506[/snapback]

I wouldn't because the risk is too great and I'd like to let nature take its course instead of trying to play God. No one has the right to toy with souls and the dead. But it would be really nice to see some of your closest friends or family members come back to life.

What, you mean as a corrupt and evil Homunuli?

I can't believe how many of you people would still consider doing this, knowing full well what the consequences are.
LindleyJo
I would definitally not.

Messing with life and death has never turned out well. Of course I'm talking about movies and tv shows, but still. In all those movies/tv shows, it always comes back and bites everyone in the butt. I'd rather keep my butt safe and away from dead people, thank you.

Haha. That was kind of weird...
Edamame
Human life is something that is not meant to be tampered with. As Summoner Collete as mentioned, I believe that Izumi's speech to the young girl who lost her cat really sums the nature of life and death up. Although the Elric brothers performed their transmutation out of sheer love for their mother, the consequences of tampering with the flow of human life were extreme. I do not comprehend the nature of this act after seeing the living hell that the Elric brothers had to go through. In my eyes, they truly did create a monster that was nothing like their loving mother. Many of the characters that performed transmutations saw them as acts of love, but they actually ended up causing more suffering to themselves and to the one that they loved and wanted to see again. (Come to think of it, I feel rather bad for the Homonculi.) Even though we may love somebody dearly there comes a time when we need to learn when to let go.
InsaneFangirl
There are some lives I'd give anything to take back...

But I know it wouldn't work if I tried. Playing God would just hurt things more.
Roy_San_Luver
no...no way.it would end up being a screw up for both ends
sachiko hyuuchi
NOoo I won't seeing the results of what happened to Ed, Al and Izumi.

Remember what Izumi said? That "Life will come to an end, a return to the dust from which we came".

Human Transmutation can't be possible, the human itself is to complicated.

Well this is maybe just I haven't lost anyone that's close to me -.- OR that I don't really have many people that are close to me. =.= Or maybe I just don't value things until they are lost =\
Alazne_Oved
Sorry to say, but no. I couldn't do it...even for the people I love the most. I believe in moving forward...and trying to bring them back would be reviving the past...in other words, moving backwards. It's sad, but that's the way I think. And I agree with Summoner Colette, I doubt any of my family or loved ones would want me to sacrifice some part of myself in order to bring them back. We're not God. No one has the right to play God, no matter what the reason.
full_porno_alchemist
what if you gave them the red stones would they listen to you?
Packy
^ Take a look at Greed - He was given the Red Stones, but did he listen to Dante? Nope. He ran off and disobeyed her to become the homunculus people love nowdays.

As of right now, i'd say no to human transmutation... If you were to perform a transmutation in hopes of seeing that person alive again, and you died during the process, your hope would all go down the drain of ever being able to see them in the firstplace! Eh, i'll stop with my rambling.
Full Metal97
dry.gif I Definitly wouldnt
dahomunculi
well, I'd love to have the skill Ed and Izumi has, but no- I really don't have someone that I'd like to ressurect.
Lysander
If my family or friend died, I would perform it without hesitation. If I could. tongue.gif
Untitled
Well, if it was someone very important to me.. Then I would I guess.. sleep.gif
LT. Mustang
I would if i knew it could save someone i love. Even if i had to give something up, i would do it.
Astria
V. cute sig there, L.T Mustang. Sheska is love. smile.gif

Ah...this is a controversial question. On the one hand, I understand why Ed and Al did it, but I doubt I'd have the same reasoning. They were young children who couldn't accept mortality, and the fact that they'd lost their mother. But..in resurrecting her they were actually pretty selfish...showing more regard for their own feelings then that of the one who had died.

And that would be my hesitation. Regardless of any so-called 'natural law', who am I to decide that a single person deserves or would even desire to be brought back to life? Rationally, it just wouldn't work. On that basis I could not attempt human transmutation. That is not to say that I wouldn't consider it, out of love or despair... Tricky. dry.gif

Also, there's a difference between bringing a person back the way Ed and Al tried it, and bringing them back using the Philosopher's Stone. Only the latter is a viable, complete human transmutation.

That is, you ask for 'person A' from the Gate, and the Stone allows you to get him/her back in mind body and soul. The other method (Ed's and Izumi's) created a body which lacked the all-important component of a soul. It would be a conscious being with a body and mind...but it would *not* be the 'person A' you wanted. It would be a homunculus, which is, unless I've got the theory wrong, a seperate entity.

Oooh, I love tricky questions like this. smile.gif
ed_drink_your_milk
Well, I guess a few years ago when I lost four family members in a year I might have considered it, but I would have probably been to afraid of messing up and making something like ed and al's version of trisha. I guess I just don't trust myself to do something as big as that, and difinately not four, and in that case I wouldn't do any becuase I wouldn't want to have to choose between my deceased relatives.
Matt Perry
I'd have to say no. I mean, transmutes can be easily manipulated through circles permanently embedded, so, no need for the clap and go sense, besides. the risk is far to great, now if I knew whta would happen.
Nepharski
All you people who are saying you would without hesitation if it was a family/friend/etc., are missing the fact that doing so would ONLY bring them back as a Homunculus. What's with you people? You've watched the series, haven't you? The inevitable outcome is that you'll only create a monster who looks like your lost one. I'd have liked to think this was obvious enough.
Colette
It's not being noble. It's being stupid D:
Legendary Super Saiyan Broly
i would try, but i problably wouldnt do it right sleep.gif
Lysander
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All you people who are saying you would without hesitation if it was a family/friend/etc., are missing the fact that doing so would ONLY bring them back as a Homunculus. What's with you people? You've watched the series, haven't you? The inevitable outcome is that you'll only create a monster who looks like your lost one. I'd have liked to think this was obvious enough.


Yes, but sometimes desperation and depression blind logical reasoning. And SOME would consider seeing them as homunculus would be better than never seeing them at all. And you forget, this is just a hypothetical question. No one could perform it even they wanted to.
FMA4ever
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All you people who are saying you would without hesitation if it was a family/friend/etc., are missing the fact that doing so would ONLY bring them back as a Homunculus. What's with you people? You've watched the series, haven't you? The inevitable outcome is that you'll only create a monster who looks like your lost one. I'd have liked to think this was obvious enough.


Yes, but sometimes desperation and depression blind logical reasoning. And SOME would consider seeing them as homunculus would be better than never seeing them at all. And you forget, this is just a hypothetical question. No one could perform it even they wanted to.


I agree. Besides being blind sighted by love and hope, I would do it. Even though we've seen the series, take the question as if you haven't seen it at all. How would you actually know (if you haven't seen FMA) what would happen? Ed and Al didn't know, they just wanted their mom back.

Don't get mad at me, I was just giving my opinion. happy.gif I wasn't get mad at you guys either.
Nepharski
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All you people who are saying you would without hesitation if it was a family/friend/etc., are missing the fact that doing so would ONLY bring them back as a Homunculus. What's with you people? You've watched the series, haven't you? The inevitable outcome is that you'll only create a monster who looks like your lost one. I'd have liked to think this was obvious enough.


Yes, but sometimes desperation and depression blind logical reasoning. And SOME would consider seeing them as homunculus would be better than never seeing them at all. And you forget, this is just a hypothetical question. No one could perform it even they wanted to.

Creating a monster in their image? I'd rather let the rest at piece. The fact is, since we've all seen the series, whether or not you did it out of blind compassion, it's still an admittedly stupid thing to do. The point isn't on whether or not it's possible, the point is, if it was possible, would you do it, and if this thread is any indication, we'd have a serious overpopulation problem of anti-social homunculi raising all kinds of Hell.
Matt Perry
[spoiler] Ed did it. ^ ^ ^ ^ Though, he died due to it, possibly could have lived, but it happens. He did bring Al back. [/spoiler]

Above message to Neph who believs homunculi are only outcome. Do not read if don't wish to ruin series.
Nepharski
QUOTE(Matt Perry @ Sep 7 2006, 01:53 PM) [snapback]442996[/snapback]

[spoiler] Ed did it. ^ ^ ^ ^ Though, he died due to it, possibly could have lived, but it happens. He did bring Al back. [/spoiler]

Above message to Neph who believs homunculi are only outcome. Do not read if don't wish to ruin series.

You want to take that chance? One in a million, my friend. Furthermore...
[spoiler]Al's soul wasn't "Dead," but lingering in the Gate. It's already been established they you can pull back souls from the Gate (Done with Al, Barry, Slicer, for starters). Human Transmutation in the Anime is defined as trying to recreate a soul, not pull it back. And it's reasonable to assume that souls don't linger indefinitely in the gate outside of their physcial hosts. That, and his soul was separated through alchemy, not death.[/spoiler]
Mind Alchemist
i would never even if i could, coz i wouldn't be bringing back the person who i lost, but just someone who looks like them, and it would create a Homunculus, which would turn out to be all evil, and would want to kill me.
GREEDisGOOD
I may have done it if i was younger, but not after watching FMA. Hasn't the show taught you that already?
Tombow
Moving this thread from FMA Anime American Audience sub-forum to FMA Anime forum section front.
Tian Ai
I'm fortunate enough to not have had many loved ones die around me..

GREEDisGOOD - Yeah, the whole time the series knocks into your brain, "DON'T BRING BACK THE DEAD!" But something like what happened to Ed and Al, Izumi, or Roy really stop you from wanting to bring them back? Maybe what they did was foolish, but it was human, and that's how we naturally are.. We don't want to lose what we love..

I don't know.. if a day came that I was tempted to transmute a human, I might spend awhile wanting to do it. I'd be reminded constantly about how it's forbidden, though, and what has happened to people because of it.

I won't do it in the end, though.. If that person is dead, I believe that they are meant to be there, and I have no right to pull them out from where they have ended up. We don't have the right to toy with anyone's lives.

This is all my opinion, please don't take offense from it. ><
Astria
I think you're quite right there, Tian Ai.

A point I've brought up on other forums is that Ed and Al, for all their indisputable talent for alchemy, were nothing more then children when they attempt to bring their mother back. Ed's was a child's point of view when he said (and I paraphrase) 'Who wouldn't want to bring a loved one back to life?'. He hadn't thought it through as a more rational adult might. All he saw was that he'd lost his mummy and wanted her back - essentially, he thought he had been wronged, and couldn't accept Trisha's mortality. There's nothing wrong in that perspective in and of itself (after all, he was only a little boy), but it does not take into account the feelings of the person who would be revived. From what we saw, Trisha died wanting her sons to live and grow up together without her. The brothers believed the transmutation would work, and went ahead assuming that their mother would *want* to live again.

Anyway, to get on-topic, I agree that we are in no position to choose to revive or end another's life. If it came to it, I'm not sure I'd attempt it even if I had proof the person could truly be brought back to life. Which we haven't, of course - the dead *cannot* be brought back to life.
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