major_ed_pride
May 26 2006, 09:46 AM
<Edited the thread tittle from "Why Is It?, Ed in fanfictions and other fan related stuff..." to "Why does Ed almost always get killed or hurt in Ed fanfics??" to more clearly show the topic discussion. Also, closing the thread temporarily. 02/25/07 ~Tombow>
I've noticed something...it's insanely easy to torture Ed in fanfictions and such...
I'm wondering, why is that? I write fanfictions and for some reason when every I get a story idea, Ed is almost always getting hurt or killed in some way...it's odd...
Anyway, yeah, have others noticed this? What about other characters? What other characters have you noticed seem to get hurt or have a tendency to always be followed by a dark shadow of doom?
Toby-Chan
May 26 2006, 03:02 PM
Because he angsts right along with it?
Migchao
May 26 2006, 03:07 PM
If you mean Ed getting raped, I can relate. And Winry, Wrath and Envy seem to be raped a lot also, but...
Toby-Chan
May 26 2006, 03:23 PM
Envy getting raped?
Is that even physically possible?
darker_element
May 26 2006, 06:52 PM
Yeah, I see what you mean...He's just so easy to torture for some reason...Maybe because we all like weak defenseless Ed? (Personally I prefer killer Ed)
Emerald Alchemist
May 26 2006, 07:56 PM
Edward is indeed very easy to torture, probably because he is the main character, and for that reason we are able to see many of his flaws (E.g. Small) and also the fact, that many people choose Roy Mustang over Edward anyday, also; people who do fanfiction often have wierd, scary minds.. So they write things like "What if Edward and Envy went out...?" or something like that.
Migchao
May 27 2006, 07:50 AM
QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ May 26 2006, 03:23 PM) [snapback]401331[/snapback]
Envy getting raped?
Is that even physically possible?
Envy got raped by Wrath once in a fanfic...Envy raped by fangirls...and even Envy getting raped by Lust
though I would kind of like Envy getting a taste of that from Lust.
Toby-Chan
May 27 2006, 09:14 AM
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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ May 26 2006, 03:23 PM) [snapback]401331[/snapback]
Envy getting raped?
Is that even physically possible?
Envy got raped by Wrath once in a fanfic...Envy raped by fangirls...and even Envy getting raped by Lust
though I would kind of like Envy getting a taste of that from Lust.
Envy would decapitate Wrath before he got a chance to touch him.
Ditto with fangirls.
Lust... he'd probably find some way to get the best of her as well. He's stronger than she is.
Unless he wanted her to have her way...
Ishbal~Alchemist
May 27 2006, 10:21 AM
In the fanfics my friends and I write, it's easier to kill Roy than to torture Ed... we've killed Roy seven different ways already!

;
darker_element
May 27 2006, 12:44 PM
Let's see, in some of mine Ed: losses his soul, dies at least twice in the same one...

I never noticed how accident prone he is in fics...
Nil-chan
May 27 2006, 12:59 PM
i don't think i've written any character deaths yet, but i'll admit, Ed seems to be the easiet one to write torture for. I guess it's because he's already been through so much, it's easy to keep giving it to him because maybe it offers mmore opportunity to him to grow as a character, maybe... or to give the people around him a chance to react. reactions are so much fun to write.
MeLRizA
May 27 2006, 01:05 PM
QUOTE(Ishbal~Alchemist @ May 28 2006, 01:21 AM) [snapback]401943[/snapback]
In the fanfics my friends and I write, it's easier to kill Roy than to torture Ed... we've killed Roy seven different ways already!

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*rants* RRaaA-ARrAa-rararArA-Ra-RAArra... >D
Ed.. He's the main character who has many flaws, show more emotions than other characters (which enable us to guess his character traits easily) and a lot of people like the way he reacts when someone insults him..
I've never written a fanfic before, maybe I'll write one when I'm free but not about Ed..
Nil-chan
May 27 2006, 01:23 PM
QUOTE(MeLRizA @ May 27 2006, 04:05 PM) [snapback]402131[/snapback]
QUOTE(Ishbal~Alchemist @ May 28 2006, 01:21 AM) [snapback]401943[/snapback]
In the fanfics my friends and I write, it's easier to kill Roy than to torture Ed... we've killed Roy seven different ways already!

;
*rants* RRaaA-ARrAa-rararArA-Ra-RAArra... >D
Ed.. He's the main character who has many flaws, show more emotions than other characters (which enable us to guess his character traits easily) and a lot of people like the way he reacts when someone insults him..
I've never written a fanfic before, maybe I'll write one when I'm free but not about Ed..
haha... as much as i hate it when people hurt Roy, killing him off *sobs* can actually make good stories. I've actually read some good stories about Roy dying and the people left behind reflecting on what he meant to them... *cough*makes for great royai*cough*
but i hope you do write a fanfic, i wanna read it!
Automne
May 27 2006, 02:28 PM
Good fanfics about Ed angst, or about any character angst for that matter, are rare, especially on fanfiction.net (well, finding a good fic on ff.net is very rare) and especially when it's mixed with romance (...comfort fic...*shudders*).
I once read a poem about Envy that made me go totally 'WTF'. I swear the guy was extremly emo and felt very low about his self, and I can hardly see that.
Personally, and just for the moment, I don't take any pleasure in torturing Edward and therefore don't write it. That's for the moment. I'm an angst lover.
darker_element
May 30 2006, 09:13 AM
In all seriousness, I think it's easiest to kill/ torture/scare Ed because lots of people feel for him. He's got so many people who would care if he died. He's got so many people to protect...
I like dark stories, sadness and pain is interesting and more profound than happier stories sometimes.

I suppose it's all how you look at it though... But I write about Ed cause he's my favorite character

I guess that's what you call ironic...
No_One
Jun 1 2006, 10:03 PM
I have yet to write a fafic but I was talking to friend who does and she said the reason she tortures Ed in her stories is because she loves him!
Toby-Chan
Jun 2 2006, 04:40 AM
It's kind of true.
When I write fiction, I love my characters, but I still put them through hell and love it.
It's an author thing, I guess.
darker_element
Jun 2 2006, 06:41 AM
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I have yet to write a fafic but I was talking to friend who does and she said the reason she tortures Ed in her stories is because she loves him!
Exactly! I send him through heck in my stories because he's my favorite!
Migchao
Jun 2 2006, 08:30 AM
If you don't like a character, you should torture that one. I hate it when I see a character I like getting raped especially if it's a yaoi one. Those stories are offensive to people such as me who were REALLY raped before and someone is making fun of it so the REAL rape victims are NOT happy. I don't like the torture ones either because it it also very mean and people are taking a character you possibly like and bringing them to...torture.
And on top of that, most torture stories suck as a whole. I am a fellow fanfic writer, and I write along with whatever pops in my head that may add well to the story. I also write some fics I call 'offics' because the story has something or some things like character personalization that throws it right off. Many stories on fanfiction.net are offics, you'll find a couple of rape fics for every show. Many of where Ed was raped or was the rapist. 'Ed the rapist! That's not true!' was exactly what I thought. On top of that, yaoi rapes are just...well, I feel a rising feeling in my stomach when I read through them. Boy/girl rapes may be bad, but yaoi rapes are worse. And yuri rapes, but how Sloth can rape Lust, out of all people, is beyond me.
I'm sorry, I got way off topic. Well, I think Ed is usually the target of angst is becaue he had already gone thtough so much. He went through the gate, lost an arm and a leg, mom died, dad abandoned him, Al is just a hunk of armor, made a homunculus, all that fun stuff. He's vulnerable to torture, rape and all of those kind of things. My friend's over here, bye.
major_ed_pride
Jun 2 2006, 09:02 AM
Hmmm, this is what I have done to poor Ed T.T
Gates- Ed becomes the new host for the Gua'uld Horus (a Gua'uld, for those who don't know, is an alien with a god complex from the show StarGate SG-1)
Hand in Hand- Oh gosh...too many to name...
The Dog, The Bean, and The Well...- Killed (twice in the same chapter), Al dies too (once! and he comes back!), has a crazy darker personality, lost his memories...yeah...
Millennium Awakening- Tortured, still has evil split personality (it's the sequal to The Dog, The Bean, and The Well...)
I have a HP/FMA cross over where he has the crap beaten out of him by a dragon ^.^;;...he lives!
Human Nature- exposed to radiation (lives!), hates the world (more or less)...loner...(its an odd story...)
The Dawn of Haymaker- gets this virus that mutates his genes so now he's sorta half *cough, cough, fox, cough, cough* and the virus will later on kill him...happy no?
Well you get the picture, I torment Ed in almost...ok all...my stories. I'm not saying I enjoy it (ok so I enjoy writing it but it hurts T.T *sniff*), it's just easy...scary...
windxalchemist
Jun 2 2006, 09:27 AM
OMG. That's sad. You can't do that to my Edo~ lol
Well, better him than my
ScHMExY bEaSt Roy, right?
I like to write pointless fluff stories rather than plotted stories, but plotted stories are more easier to write, no? Well, in those pointless fluff stories, I think that torturing Havoc, or Hughes, or any other Roy-Tachi (Minus Riza) is easier to torture than my Edo-kun, no? Ed's usually the one torturing Roy, or threatening him in a serious yet fluffy fanfic-ish manner.
All in all, torture Roy-tachi, they don't get enough of it.
-windxalchemist
Toby-Chan
Jun 2 2006, 12:53 PM
I don't think the problems you put characters through has that much of an indication of how much you like them; you're just putting them through what you feel like writing about, be it for the sake of plot, or for the sake of developing their personalities, and most often it's the latter. The way people react to and cope with tragedy is horribly fascinating. That's one of the reasons I love the series in the first place; It's compelling to see people suffer so much and still resolve to live through it, or if they don't, learn how and why they were destroyed by their overwhelming problems. The human mind is a curious landscape.
It's not about having a kink for torture or a malicious intent towards a character. Like I mentioned in the art thread, which applies to literature as well, albiet in a different way; "Healthy people make beautiful images. Troubled people make powerful images."
That's the thing; putting people through troubling and desperate situations makes you feel, think, sympathise. We don't watch films like Shindler's List because we love seeing Jews die by the hundreds; we watch them in remembrance of those who died, and also in interest of the characters, seeing how they cope with the worst devastation.
CowAlchemist
Jun 2 2006, 01:18 PM
There are a few reasons. He's the main character, for one thing. Also, he has lots of fangirls, so people like to make the fangirls squirm. And, if a fangirl is writing it, it's a love thing. I guess. o_0
Keoni
Jun 5 2006, 03:27 PM
IMO it's easier to write pain than it is to write happiness. I can go on for pages about pain, hurt, discomfort or just plain unhappy and all the aspects of it, but when it comes to happiness, I can do only two sentences and then I spend hours thinking about the next...
And Toby is right. Troubled people make interesting fanfic.
zanirii_master
Jun 5 2006, 03:46 PM
'cause many people are killers of their own creations or gets happier making life difficult to their characters
_Jelly
Jun 6 2006, 04:35 AM
I reckon Im the only one who would prefer him dead...but, you know, whatever. They're the author so meh. But its true, he seems to die a lot in fics...or at least get bashed or raped. I was reading EdxEnvy fics a few days ago and realied 4/5 I read, Ed was killed, mostly by Envy...>_< evil. I guess, Toby-chan's right, not because you enyoy watching Jews die...>_< "we watch them in remembrance of those who died." Well said.
Sin Of Envy
Jun 6 2006, 05:01 AM
It's easy to provoke Ed, that's why...
shorty shORTY SHORTY
55th_animalalchemist
Jun 6 2006, 11:12 PM
QUOTE(No_One @ Jun 2 2006, 02:03 AM) [snapback]404719[/snapback]
I have yet to write a fafic but I was talking to friend who does and she said the reason she tortures Ed in her stories is because she loves him!
That made me remaind the Lennon murder, the guy who killed John Lennon did it because he was a great fan of him.
But why hurt or kill a character you like? , I have to admit hte mostly of fanfictions that a character get kill are very good ones.
For me Ed get hurt or kill because you can see him a little weaker and thats something that on FMA is rare to see.
Lunchbox
Oct 8 2006, 03:49 PM
I love to kill Edward in my fanfictions. Personally, I love it when people say, "I cried because of what happened in your fanfiction." Heck, sometimes I'll even make him kill himself! It goes along with the story most of the time, because, I agree. He's angst himself.
But, usually, when people [ meaning I ] write fanfictions, they have emotions or feelings that they want to get out. Usually I don't write without having some strong emotion burdening me.
IttyBittyPretty
Oct 8 2006, 05:37 PM
Over on ff.net one of the forum posters said the best way to approach writing an FMA fanfic is to ask yourself "What is the worst thing I can do to Ed?"
In my long fic, Edward has been nipped by a "purse dog", doinked with a wrench, propositioned by Mustang, kidnapped, drugged (several times), nearly drowned, attacked by nurses, been the subject of an attempted kidnapping, called names, and been told he's going to Hell. In the next few chapters, I'm going to do some more horrible things to him.
In another, unpublished fic, I've toyed with the idea of killing his wife, making him lose his memory, and giving him malaria.

I'm so mean..........
"What ever does not kill me, makes me stronger. Except in Major Ed Pride's fanfics." - Edward Elric
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