RolfKaese
Oct 1 2004, 07:37 AM
Official Summary of the Square-Enix Page:
大総統邸にてプライドや、事態を聞きつけてやってくるアーチャーと次々に対峙することとなったマスタング。一方ダンテの屋敷では、エンヴィーがホーエンハイムに会うべく門へと消えていく。そしてエドは、大切なものを呼び戻すため、ふたたび両手を打ち鳴らす……。
It says something about Ed (エド) clapping his hands in order to recall important ones.. (my guesses from the babelfish translation ^^U)






Again, no conent of FMA 51 got revealed... x_X
Guest
Oct 1 2004, 07:43 AM
O_o
All I see are squares
Hoshi
Oct 1 2004, 07:51 AM
This is the translation by nifty:
Mustang which will take a stand against Archer who hears Pride and the situation one after another in the large president's mansion. On the other hand, Envi disappears to the gate at Dante's mansion to meet Hoenheim.
And Ed sounds both hands again in order to call back an important thing ....
bryantq
Oct 1 2004, 07:56 AM
my best translation at this is:
At the Fuhrer's home, he is being interrogated about Pride and the situation at hand. However, Archer arrives and comes to the point of confronting Mustang. On the other hand, at Dante's residence, in order for Envy to meet Hohenheim, he continues to run to the gate. And Edward, in order to save his important others, strikes both his hands again and sounds...
I dont see this on the official page yet so i cant add it to the site (well i cant because FTP is down anyway)
Cloud28
Oct 1 2004, 08:14 AM
hmm, is eps 51 already aired in japen? most of the fan sub group don't have this eps yet......
RolfKaese
Oct 1 2004, 08:20 AM
nope, it airs tomorrow ^^ look at the date I gave in the topic
Hoshi
Oct 1 2004, 08:20 AM
No, for now there is only summaries, the ep. will be air tomorrow.
Sycia
Oct 1 2004, 08:24 AM
Hi... I was wondering if I could post the summary of episode 51 in this forum after it airs tomorrow... is that allowed? I mean, since I'll see it on TV, I might as well...
Cloud28
Oct 1 2004, 08:29 AM
omg, can't wait until tomrr, but when will be subed though??
RolfKaese
Oct 1 2004, 08:38 AM
@Sycia: you're welcome, just use the new spoiler tags for it ^__^
[ spoiler ] blablabla[ /spoiler ]
Sycia
Oct 1 2004, 08:39 AM
*Pokes head out of 'Registered' section*
Okie then. Thanks a lot. : ) So excited about tomorrow's episode I can't sleep guh.
RolfKaese
Oct 1 2004, 09:02 AM
^^U welcome to the forum ^^
Sycia
Oct 1 2004, 09:19 AM
Thanks!
Shinigami
Oct 1 2004, 10:04 AM
So im guessing ed takes the risk and try's to transmute al's body back. I wonder if the homonclus still have there powers in the london world?.
Aqua_Alchemist
Oct 1 2004, 11:17 AM
I can hardly wiat...I may even download a raw, and use my minimal japanese, to try and understand it. Then again maybe not.
But after this, we'll have to wait for a WHOLE year for the movie. Well at least that means they can make it as good as possible

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Guest
Oct 1 2004, 11:18 AM
総統邸にてプライドや、事態を聞きつけてやってくるアーチャーと次々に対峙することとなったマスタング。一方ダンテの屋敷では、エンヴィーがホーエンハイムに会うべく門へと消えていく。そしてエドは、大切なものを呼び戻すため、ふたたび両手を打ち鳴らす……。
In the Fuhrer's mansion, Mustang faces off Pride and Archer who had received news of the situation, one by one. On the other hand, at Dante's mansion, Envy on meeting Hohenheim at the Gate, vanishes. And Ed calls back his most treasured object, his two hands clanging once more......
Omakase Shimasu
Oct 1 2004, 12:47 PM
His most treasured object... Hmmm.
Kakashi
Oct 1 2004, 01:45 PM
Hoshi
Oct 1 2004, 01:52 PM
Maybe Al or the Automails???
Omakase Shimasu
Oct 1 2004, 01:55 PM

Persons aren't objects as far as I know. But maybe "object" was a mis-translation? Hmmm, his automail... I thought this whole search was about getting his normal limbs back and ridding himself of the machine parts.

By the way, nobody's an idiot until I say otherwise! XD And you're not one of them,
Kakashi. ^_~
blackasknight90
Oct 1 2004, 03:26 PM
envy finally meets his father. cant wait
Guest
Oct 1 2004, 03:49 PM
I bet Archer is going to come and screw EVERYTHING up just when Pride's about to kill Roy... giving Roy the upper hand!
So from the summary Ed is not dead. Maybe he means his actual limbs. Or Al. I'll probably shamelessly download the raw or read somebody's translation XD... I wanna know so bad!
Guesty
Oct 1 2004, 04:27 PM
That makes it sound like Ed calls back his real arm. o_o; That would be kind of cool.
Beowulf
Oct 1 2004, 04:57 PM
**Thinks of Ed recalling his arm and leg and imagining them flying out of the gate and sticking them back to a screaming Ed...**...I'd pay to see that. xD.
Chibi Viki
Oct 1 2004, 07:11 PM
so fullmetal robo terminarcher DOES go to the fuhrer's house... i thought it was just speculation... i hope riza kicks his butt, YAAAAARR!!!
Shiroi
Oct 1 2004, 07:23 PM

I would assume Ed gets his arm back by taking the hints. "object" and "two hands once more." Erm... I don't suppose anyone here believes that Ed is actually dead? *dodges flying objects*
I wanna know what happens soooo badly! T.T Waiting for the fansub is too long.
Uh... Random thought: What's up with Bradley's key? He said he trusted Selim with his life when he gave it to him. Could it have a part of his former body in it or something?
Knives122
Oct 1 2004, 07:27 PM
Best Case scenario: Riza beats the crap out of Terminarcher and roy kills Pride
Worst Case scenario: Riza is kiled by FMRobo terminarcher and Roy blows up every thing killing pride and himself(most of you like the first one better)

And yes Shiroi more or less part of his original body is in that safe just from this one sentence: "I entrust you with my life" since part of their origianl body ultimately can kill them, it has to be part of his body in the chest
Kakashi
Oct 1 2004, 08:12 PM
OMG I'm so excited about all this I've been dying all week for this episode..
My theory is : Ed will summon back his arm and leg with the Philosopher's Stone and attempt to fight Dante. Meanwhile Envy is in the Gate trying to find Hohenheim and gets sealed in there. Then in Pride's mansion Selim comes to the fight saying that he has Pride's treasure thinking it would help him and by doing that Roy killed him and then Riza backs him up defeating Robo-Archer.
Friend's Theory :
Pretty much like mine except since Selim made Pride die he might want revenge and be the villain in the movie.
I don't know but we'll just have to wait till tomorrow.
silh0uette
Oct 1 2004, 08:25 PM
Envy said something would happen if Ed were to perform alchemy near the transmutation circle Al is trapped in. Ed clapping his hands together must mean that something is gonna happen to Al and the Philosopher's Stone. I'll probably just wait until Tuesday to find out what exactly happens. ^^;
Roy isn't gonna die, either. You heard him talking in the (stupid, not specific about too much of the details) FMA movie trailer. <<;
(Bones is just really good with suspense, yes? I lof them.)
Guest
Oct 1 2004, 08:41 PM
What's the point of summoning back his arm and leg if he still has that big hole in his chest?

The treasured 'object' (romaji mono) could be anything since 'mono' can apply even to person (it is a very broad term). 大切 'taisetsu" can also mean intimate (as in very close in relationship). If he brings back his dad, that would really be ridiculous. So throughout the series, shouldn't we have already learnt what is Ed's treasured object already? Something is wrong here. AH, I got it. Al's body.
Also it could also be thought of that the clanging of his two arms is Ed's last gasp action, his final act against Dante and gang before he dies.
So Ed dies, Al lives restored to full.
Guest
Oct 1 2004, 09:06 PM
Yes! Yes! Roy's not gonna die! His voice is in the movie trailer! Selim and the key! The Terminarcher! Hawkeye! Everything is pointing to Roy's defeat of pride.
..... and then bones comes along and kills him off XD
Chibi Viki
Oct 1 2004, 09:08 PM
QUOTE(Kakashi @ Oct 2 2004, 03:12 AM)
Friend's Theory :
Pretty much like mine except since Selim made Pride die he might want revenge and be the villain in the movie.
uhm, the movie takes place after two years... so selim would only be 12 by then... it's a bit impossible except if he's really an evil genuis deep inside...

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odoridan
Oct 1 2004, 09:11 PM
Geez, just reading this thread gets me even more excited. I wasn't really excited until I read that teaser.
I'm really wondering about the whole Roy and Riza story. I wondering if Bones will go nuts and kill one (or both) off. Man, I can image the tidal wave of tears and anger if that happens.
And that Archer better die. I was hoping that they would kill that guy off weeks ago. I mean, c'mon Izumi. She should have owned him. I'll blame Izumi if anything bad happens because of Archer.

And I'll be real pissed if he survives to the movie.

(That's a disturbing thought.)
The_Lazy_Alchemist
Oct 1 2004, 09:21 PM
Oh so Roy really does narrate the (irritatingly short and vague) movie trailer...I always wondered whether it was him or just someone completely unrelated.
Full metal Archer must die!! Really, he should've died a long time ago. I don't care how important he is to the story if at all! Too annoying and he reminds me of some messed up version of the terminator.
The fight doesn't seem fair at all...Full metal Archer and Pride vs Mustang. A homunculus and a half human half robot thing against a full human and alchemist. Can Roy use any other alchemy besides flamethrowing? Pride's already found a way to beat that. Just seperate the air particles in the oxygen so there is not enough to create a spark. Is Izumi going to show up and help? And where is Hawkeye? After that explosion, shouldn't she be going down right about now?
Is it really possible to wrap everything up in just this one episode? @__@ O_o Can't wait to see how Bones will do this.
Virtue
Oct 1 2004, 10:59 PM
I think he will summon his arm and leg from the gate. The gate took them from wrath and now that Ed knows about everyone having their own gate inside of them I think he will use the knowledge to get his arm back, and the body of his brother ^__^
Chibi Viki
Oct 1 2004, 11:20 PM
let's not forget armstrong and the rest fighting against half of the military under general hakuro. i wonder if that general from east city will help them out since he's in really good terms with mustang...
zomg
Oct 1 2004, 11:25 PM
going back to the thing about him summoning his important thing. Since wrath lost his(ed's) arm and leg(sucker), that ed would reacquire them. It sort of checks out. Meanwhile, i'm tempted to look in the ep 51 spoiler thread....
Chibi Viki
Oct 1 2004, 11:56 PM
zomg, there's really not much difference between this thread and the ep 51 spoiler thread. there were a lot of members who doubted the origin of the spoiler because it was just way to early for them.
Meda
Oct 2 2004, 12:49 AM
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I think ed´s treasure is Al... Al will die. HWAHAHAHAHA....
Sorry, i´m serius, Al is the most important thing to ed. I hope being wrong.
Sorry for my english, you knwo, its horrible.
Netabare
Oct 2 2004, 02:14 AM
I just finished seeing the final ep.
this is simple conclusion.
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Al revived Ed.
Roy killed Pride.(because Son of Pride bring him his original skull)
Roy injured (in his left eye) by Archer.
Riza shooted and killed Archer.
Dante might be eaten by glottny.(Actually, She just vanished with Glottny.)
Envy has gone into the gate to meet hohenheim. (i don't know he could
succeed or not)
Ed tried to rivive Al. As a result, Al returned his body. but his memory
and his body is kept 10 years old.
Ed has gone to the other side of the gate. it was Munich,1921. he is living with
Hohenheim.
Al and Ed are living separated in each side of the gate. They want to develop
their skill somehow ( for Al =Alchemy, for Ed=Science) to meet again.
Sycia
Oct 2 2004, 02:34 AM
Indeed.... Episode 51 was surprising....
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Starting where episode 50 left off, Envy had stabbed Ed in the chest. Aru (Al) freaks out, and Rose breaks out of her trance and starts to run towards Ed, but is held back by Dante.
Aru really begins to lose it, saying that Ed can't be dead. Gluttony, who was eating Aru's metal shell, suddenly stops. Dante realizes something is wrong, and Aru gets up, with the marks all over his body glowing. He used alchemy. Dante frowns, muttering she doesn't know what will happen now. But Aru doesn't care. He says that he should have been dead from the day he and Ed tried to bring their mother back. He shouldn't even be alive. He goes over to Ed's body and feels how warm it is (he has a sense of touch?), saying Ed's not dead yet; his soul is still where the gate is...
Meanwhile, Hawkeye is being driven away from Bradley's mansion with Bradly's wife and son in guard cars. The parade of cars are suddenly stopped by a very injured Archer, who spots Hawkeye and starts firing away. One of his bullets hit her in the shoulder. While no one's looking, Bradley's son slips away, heading back to where his father is.
Roy and Bradley are still at it, but Roy is injured bad and no matter how badly he burns his opponent, Bradley regenerates. Bradley finally corners Roy, and stabs him in the left side of his chest and drags his sword slowly towards Roy's heart. Then suddenly, Bradley's son bursts through the door. Bradly goes towards his son, saying that everything's fine. But upon putting his hands on his son's shoulders, realizes something very very wrong. "What have you done?" He goes, and his son frightfully replies he took his dad's 'treasure' for safekeeping (he takes the white bundle out of his sling bag). Bradley is partially paralyzed, but somehow manages to strangle his son in anger. Roy, meanwhile, manages to get up and get Bradley away from the boy but it is too late; the latter is dead. Roy then picks a skull from the white bundle the boy had (because Bradley's too weakened to do anything else) and uses his own blood to mark out an alchemy symbol on his left hand to being his real attack on Bradley.... I don't think I need to explain who's skull that is.
Ed stands in a 'white-ish' place. A faint image of Aru appears before him for a second before disappearing. Then, Envy appears before the very neutral-looking Edward. Envy demands to know where this is, and Ed replies, "The Gate" in a very monotonous tone. Indeed, before them is the gate. Envy freaks out and forces his way into the Gate upon learning that his 'father' is on the other side, still alive, ignoring Ed's soft warning not to go in. The lil black arms bring Envy in, but he realizes they being to consume his flesh. He is irritated and changes forms, forcing the little black creatures off him, transforming into Edward, then into a large green serpent flying deeper, and deeper in...
Ed still stands outside the now close gate, and tears start to stream down...
Roy comes out of the burning Bradley mansion, holding the dead son. But Archer is there waiting for him. Hawkeye comes running towards the mansion, and upon seeing Archer, begins to shoot. Archer goes down by the time she runs out of bullets, but she goes over to find Roy fallen, in a pool of his own blood. Insert the most dramatic yell Hawkeye ever did in the series here. Just to note, she called him by his full name.
Ed suddenly opens his eyes to see Rose. He gets up and realizes his metal arm is now flesh. Rose tells him that Aru refused to let him die. Then Ed tries to find his little brother, but tin-can is long gone....
Meanwhile, Dante is in that elavator going up to Bradley's office. She's frustrated that the Philosopher's Stone disappeared while her body's in such a bad state. Then Gluttony eats through the floor of the elavator and starts to attack Dante. She prepares to defend herself with alchemy... The elevator reaches Bradley's office, with no one inside...
Ed stands alone in the opera-house, alchmey symbols painted with bloody on his head, chest and arms, and the symbol of Scar's arm on the floor. He had told Rose to leave this place while he 'destroys' it. He begins to use alchemy... saying that there is no equivalent exchange. There is not equivalent exhange for life. Even if he sacrificed his all, he might be able to bring Aru back... but...
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Some time later, we see the army being dispatched (or something, I didn't really understand this part). The people of Isshibaru (Don't know the English spelling, sorry) have been let off, and they are slowly rebuilding their homes. Roy is recovering from his injures in bed, and he's lost his left eye (omg another Bradley). Hawkeye sits beside him in normal clothes, peeling and apple with a knife, lamanting about how their plans were perfect, but she hadn't made it in time to save him from Archer. Roy goes that nothing is perfect.
Aru is.... ALIVE. But apparently he got brought back with the body that was taken from him 4 years ago, and he doesn't remember anything of what happened from the day they tried bringing their mother back to life. Winry watches him playing around happily, Rose is also there with her baby. Izumi, the other 2 men and Grandma come up. We learn that Winry fixed the Auto-mail leg and arm meant for Ed, onto Wrath, who has vanished. We also learn that after the incident of Aru appearing in his human form once more, Ed was nowhere to be found...
Later that evening, when everyone is having dinner, Aru tells Izumi he wants to learn more Alchemy. Izumi relents after he gives her that determined look in his eyes. He wants to learn as much as he can, so that one day, ONE DAY, he'll be able to meet his brother again.
The next day, we see Aru departing on a train with Izumi for his training.
1921 (Myuhen) <--- That's what was written on screen. I don't understand where this place is, but we see images of a war-torn town being put together slowly again.
Hohenheim is with some .... people clad in black, doing 'magic'. He returns home, and what do you know... we see EDWARD there, packing his bag to leave for somewhere. He looks like he's aged a few years (well, kinda like how he looks in the movie poster), and he's still got that metal arm (we don't see the leg, but I'm guessing it's there). He comments on how funny it is that he got his real arm and leg back, only to have them lost again when he tried to bring Aru back, and how strange it is that only those 2 things were taken from him, not his whole being as he intended to give up in the first place. Hohenheim says, perhaps his adventure with Aru that started 4 years ago, the memories of the pain and joy, the lessons learnt, was the exchange to bring Aru back. Ed just smiles. He's leaving to meet someone who's making rockets (I heard rockets, but... huh?) Even though alchemy can't be used in this world (our world), he find a way to meet Aru again someday.
We see Aru and Ed leaving their homes in trains. The latter is looking at a plan of a primitive rocket, then both of them look to the sky, promising each other that they will see each other again, then the last scene is of both of them reach their arms (one metal arm) to the sky...
Edit #1
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Oh yes, forgot to mention that we see a picture of Wrath living like a wild dog, going through rubbish for food in the closing.
Edit #2
Eh, sorry... screencaps are in the other topic, or just scroll down (posted 17).
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Eh sorry. Forgot to mention that, Armstrong and gang are fine. They are still in the millitary, and one of the 3 musketeers (the slightly plump one) seems to be taking after Armstrong (well, as in muscle-flexing etc). Cheska is also in the millitary, and as usual being the bookworm. The scene that was shown was of the 2 officers (who were assigned to help watch out for Ed and Aru in the earlier episodes, sorry I don't recall their names) carrying books into Cheska's already book-flooded room.
Sycia
Oct 2 2004, 02:37 AM
I watched episode 51 on TV and I don't have a video recorder, so I'm recalling the stuff that happened on the wing. I may have mixed up the sequence of events a little, but that's roughly it.
Also, some of the babbling I didn't understand that much (too exciting and I only went through episode 51 once... ;_;) If I recall anything, I'll add on....
I guess we can now expect what to see in the movie next year, but one question from episode 51 is still floating about in my head.
What in the world happened to Envy in the end?
Guest
Oct 2 2004, 02:38 AM
Thanks!!! there isn't a EdXRoze!!!
Now I can begin again to live^___^
Hoshi
Oct 2 2004, 02:39 AM
QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 2 2004, 09:38 AM)
Thanks!!! there isn't a EdXRoze!!!
Now I can begin again to live^___^
ops...sorry I posted the msg without log-in^^;;;;
Netabare
Oct 2 2004, 02:50 AM
this is some captured image
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upperright: Roy using Pride's skull
uppercenter: Envy going into the gate
upperright: Ed try to return Al(Remark his hands)
lowerleft: Roy in hospital with Riza
lowercenter: Al in his hometown
lowerright: Ed in Munich with Hohenheim
gugclo
Oct 2 2004, 03:02 AM
Very nice, the furher
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XD
Sycia
Oct 2 2004, 03:05 AM
Well, Bradley is a Homoculus... They aren't supposed to have much sympathy if any at all. I guess his family was all just a front to put up.
Aqua_Alchemist
Oct 2 2004, 04:10 AM
Now I shouldn't have read that lol

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Netabare
Oct 2 2004, 04:13 AM
more capures of ep51.
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Roy and Pride final fight. Pride got angry and killed his son because his son brought Pride's skull from his safe.

Al revived Ed with P stone.

Riza shooted Archer to save Roy. Roy injured in his eyes.

Ed in Munich,1921 with his father.

Dante and Glattony in an elevator. Ed's final alchemy

Roy and Riza at hosptal/or his room.

Al in hometown

Ending. Ed in in his way to transilvania to meet Hermann Oberth who is a reseacher of rocket with Robert Goddard.(He started larning science to return
to his world) Al in the train to Izumi's town to train alchemy more. He want to
get back Ed from somewhere.

gugclo
Oct 2 2004, 04:19 AM
Wow that sucks o.o
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