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aviazn
So what do you guys think of the movie after seeing the English dub? I watched the series dubbed, watching the movie fansubbed, and I have to say my opinion of the movie improved dramatically after seeing the dub tonight. Whether that's because Funi's script was an improvement on the fansub or just because I'm more accustomed to hearing the Funi cast, I'm not sure--probably a bit of both. This time around, I understood the characters' motivations much better (esp. Ed and Al, and why they make the choices they do) and what I had regarded previously as major plot holes were more or less eased by the dub script. I still think it attempts a bit too much--trying to tie up the loose plot strands from the series, while at the same time introducing new themes with the Weimar Republic setting--but I'd rather watch something that errs on the side of ambition than caution, and I admire the movie for it.
r315razor
I loved the movie completly. What made it more satisfying is that beyond all temptation, I waited until it came out. So I did not watch it before hand. biggrin.gif

The only thing I hated is that I had to pee for the last hour of the movie. But I held it in! rolleyes.gif

The crowed in the theatre was all "YEA!!!" When Mustang showed up to fend off the army.
Such a cool movie.

Although the ending did leave it as "we have this to do" it was the type that you know they can accomplesh.

But would be really cool is if there is a new movie that finished it. (Which there is a 99/100 chance of not happening)

But none the less, I loved it completly! Best anime movie I have seen in a wile!

oh... and.... WHY IS HUGHS A NAZI?!?
nihilist
The ending wouldve been acceptable if they made up for it with a better villain..man, like i said, WORST villain of all time.
Minna
I was sad. Really really das. I cried when the credit texts started, and then cried again when I was going to bed. And again on the next day (which was yesterday btw). I just felt... cheated. "No they can't just go! They'll HAVE to live with their friends and all!!" I was kind of happy that Ed and Al were together, but still can't accept that they're no longer in the world that they belong into.
They didn't think any about Winry or anyone else.
And I wonder about one thing. If the gate coul've been opened with just one side of it working, Ed coul've been gone to "this" world, deastroyed the portal, then Al could've opened it from the other side and Ed could go home. If both sides are needed, they wouldn't have had to deastroy them both. A big plothole. WHY did they do it like that? T__T
I kinda know everything can't have a happy ending, but still... They worked so hard and waited and all, so they DESERVED a happy ending.
*draws short comics with other endings and hangs onto the manga version*
Kivrin
The movie was great, but I was a little disappointed. The folks at Funimation said that it would give fans closure, but at the end, I felt like I wanted another movie. Something's missing. I think closure should feel more ... satisfying.

And yeah, the initial attacks on Central and Lior(e) were conducted without someone opening the portal from the Elrics' homeworld. There was no reason for anyone to be stuck in this world. Left me feeling ... empty. The villain was ... lacklustre. And even if Al and Ed ended up here, why - and I've watched only the fansub - did they just seem to accept not being able to go home again? Wouldn't trying to open a portal back home seem less daunting for 2 alchemists that didn't think regaining a lost body was impossible?
Oh... although... getting through The Gate and getting attacked by the creatures would be a problem. They wouldn't have a rocket this time. <ponder>

<sigh> Thank goodness for the manga. But I will definitely miss seeing it animated. I'm still hoping that Conqueror of Shamballa won't be the last FMA movie they make... but perhaps I shouldn't hold my breath.

So after my 3-day FMA binge on all 51 eps, the OVAs and the movie, I'm at a loss...until I start ordering the manga anyway!

<sigh>
shanyetta23
QUOTE(The Regal Tigress @ Jun 24 2006, 06:58 AM) [snapback]415636[/snapback]

*spoilers*

Thoughts from a filmmaker... (my degree has to come in useful somewhere...right?)

Random FMA Movie Thoughts: *spoilers*

So in addition to all the work I've been doing the last few days, I've spent some time tracking down rumors of a second FMA movie (thanks guys!)... of which there seems to be none planned. "Officially" the director of both the anime and movie has said he will not direct anymore FMA anime, so... that doesn't necessarily mean the concept is out, only that if anything ever pops up, it would likely be directed by someone else. Now, maybe they use the manga as inspiration (since midway through the two diverged in story/characters), but, well, while the manga moves on, the anime seems it might very well have ended.

About the movie, more closely...

And to be honest, that leaves a little empty spot in my heart because I enjoyed it SO much, and I'm such an audio/visual person, that while I am enjoying the manga, and am happy it's going to continue for awhile yet, it's still not the same thing, and I sort of feel that now, having read the manga, I can see part of the anime director's emphasis on the story, and.... it fascinates me.

See, I saw the end of the FMA series and I was ... very disheartened.  I mean, yes, it was sweet the two of them were alive and human, but I felt so CHEATED. I firmly believed the two of them would have been happier together: even with Alphonse as a suit of armor.  And it just ...arg. It felt so unsatisfying.

Then I watched the FMA movie (read: watched the horrible fan subs by various translators a few times before I finally, REALLY understood what was going on, and what people were saying).   And you know, from what I can tell about 80% of fans HATE the movie. Like, outright hate.  And part of me used to be that way (mainly because the whole London/Munich subplot was so "WTF?" at the end of the series, and in the movie of course), but.... these last few days particularly I've been thinking about it, and while the storyteller in me still wants to see some loose ends ties up (Roy/Riza, The "Uranium Bomb" etc.), I think I have a new appreciation for the ending.

See.  For me it felt "GOOD" the boys were together again. Undoubtedly I was MUCH happier with that ending than the series' ending, but I realized the other night that it was not a "perfect" ending.  That's what my mind wanted: it wanted the "perfect" ending. The "we are wrapped up in a tiny bow and everything is wonderful now!" ending.... and that's not FMA. Bad people die.  Good people die. Everything comes with a price. The world is imperfect.

THAT is why the ending fits.  I mean, it sucks where they are, and that Ed still has his auto-mail, but _BUT_ the arc of brotherly love has been completed. And THAT is what the anime was about from the start! No: not Winry, not "mother," not anything like that, but sacrifice, true sacrifice and the amazingly strong bond between two brothers. And that is exactly what the end of the movie showcased. The two of them had to pay a price for all that's happened.

And they did! And THAT is why it can't be wrapped up in a pretty bow! They can no longer go home (at least... assuming the Colonel put the other side of the gate down, and even then... details details...), but even when they had a resemblence of a "home," it's not as if they went there often anyways. No: being around eachother is the key. That is the great, big, lesson in all of this. That all along they were searching to revive their mother, and to help themselves, and in the end all that matters is eachother.

...isn't that just amazing? I mean, after all that, that IS an ending. That is such an amazingly heartening, beautiful thing, that it brings me to tears! (And mind you, I'm glad Alphonse got his body back. Poor boy deserved it, but if they BOTH came out entirely human and back in their home world...doesn't that seem the faintest bit contrived? Doesn't it seem like unequal trade?).

Or, to think of it another way: both brothers sacrifice themselves for the other (see: the last few episodes of the series), so even through that, by all accounts shouldn't one or both be dead? And instead we get to see them both alive, together? Isn't that an amazing journey, and wasn't it worth the cost? Just think of the journey they've gone on, and somehow, not only have they both matured, but they have finally sort of met in the middle with how they think/act (though that is more towards the end of the series than the film, admittedly).

So... it might not have been the way I would have told the story, but... it's a story that needs told, I feel. And that makes it even more powerful. It's tragic, but not at the same time. It's a different sort of "closure" than I'm accustomed to.

And I'm thankful for the journey the director has taken me on, because I feel more "awake" because of it.

The ending is not perfectly happy, since it is imperfect, but I "feel" it more now.


I certainly welcome thoughts from others. smile.gif

-Kymba


I like the way you have put things and you are right, but here is what bothers me. I felt that, yes, the story is about the boys, but that other characters became truly important and they were not given time to shine or closure. I speak of Roy/Riza etc... I felt sad for Winry (the boys were part of her family). And even though they were stuck on the other side the second to last scene, Ed and Al are still going to try to find a way back, ("It will be harder without alchemy"), but then in the last scene Ed say, "this is our world...blablabla...it would be hard to detach ourselves from it... WTF! I didn't like that, I didn't like that he was happy in "our world", when he has so many people who love him and will miss him in his. That's what made me have a bad taste in my mouth at the end. That one line ruined it for me. I was saddened by the movie and I would have rather just made up my own ending from the way that the Anime ended, at least it was hopeful. I didn't feel that the movie had a hoepful ending.
-Shanyetta23 sad.gif
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I liked it but it lacked.. It was too darn short sad.gif
@sachiko hyuuchi
I think that Ed didn't really want to go back, but then who'd send the warship back? But it was kinda sweet of Al to go back with Ed.. Brotherly love laugh.gif!
I was a lil disappointed since there was no Royai (I'm a fan happy.gif)..
But it was okay happy.gif I'm still hoping for another one though..
InsaneFangirl
I was quite satisfied with the dub. ^^ The first few times I watched the movie had the most terrible subs you can imagine.

Ex:

"What about Winry? She misses you too!"

Would be: "What bout Wendy?"

So it captured alot more emotion for me. Especially when Alphoze Hendrich said something along the lines of "This may not be your world, but it is mine, and I want to have proof that I lived in it! It's a little late for you to start caring now!"

I was upset that they left Winry and everyone behind, but it's much better then the brothers being seperated. That was the whole point of the anime. Al has his body back, and even though Edward still has his automail, that's the way it should be. Edward sacrificed his few minutes with his new arm for Al. Alphonse never deserved to be in the armor. As much as I adore Edward with all my heart, it was his idea to transmute their mother in the first place. I think the movie was great.
Nicoli Flamel
The Regal Tigress, while I agree with what you said about the story being good. That, yes the world is imperfect and that yes I did love the way things worked out for the brothers. The writer in me wasn't all that thrilled at what happened. Like you in the past few days I was digesting the story as a fan first then as a writer (My BA in Fiction writing et all). The thing for me wasn't the fact that the movie ended the way it did, while I was (as a fan) disatified by it, I was glad that the Elric's were back together. It was the fact of what Ed implied at the end and, what I feel are gaping plot holes as well as several weak story arcs, and a villian that left much to be desired, as well as missed opertunities that leave a taste in my mouth.

Yes, over all I think the animation was very good. The color varitations between our world and the Hagane/Shamballa world were perfect in illistrating the differences between our world (muted browns of various shades. You'll even note that Ed's and Al's hair color until the very end were darker blonde and brown respectively.) and their world (Bright vibrant colors, not very many muted tones save for the shadows and such). Along with the way the cities were drawn, (at least they did their reseach this time rather then in the show. I still don't get why they used so many zeplins, when it was only one wooden plane that was shot down.), and how they potrayed the Romas in the stoy, that I felt pleased with.

What I ulitmately disliked as a writer though was what I felt was a cop out ending. Now I'm sure other people will tell me that I'm basically wrong here, that it wasn't, and that there was little that could be done to end it another way. But from what I saw there were several other ways to end it that still packed an emotional punch. Best example, rather then just having Ed and Al leave via plane, have them leave the plane behind and go though the gate another way. This way you can show that maybe Their world will be catching up technologically to ours. I can easily compare the ending of Escaflowne to FMA, as both hero's have to leave a world that they've become used to. Hitome went back to her world possibly forever, Ed and Al leave their world for good -or so it seems. The difference is that with Esca there's a sense of hope. Maybe she won't go back but it's clear that there's still something connecting her to that world in some way. End and Al are given this "And they ride off to find the bomb" ending that just seemed...wrong. It's almost feels for me that they're sherking off responsiblity in their world. Also the gate gets to me too, but I'll get to that when I talk about the plot holes

This brings me to the line that Ed says at the end. Why this is irritating me as a writer comes from the fact that he feels he's got responibilty here. Alright, I can understand wanting to clear things up with Noa, the other Al, and Hughs, but outside of that and the bomb, it's not his responsiblity. The implications also are that the people here used the bomb, or someone saw it and created the Atomic bomb. That in itself makes me kind of ill. It's as if to say that we can't take responsiblity for our own mistakes. Again, comparing it to the ending of Escaflowne, Hitomi never once indicated that the world of Gaea was her responsiblity since she was taken there. In fact the light took her back. Yes I understand Ed's choice, but just what he said at the end leaves a bad taste in my mouth. All the sacrofices that other's made to help him and Al wind up being chucked aside. Yes Al get's his memories back, but there were various other ways that this could have been done.

Ending aside, the plot holes drove me some what batty. To begin with how did Ed meet the other Al? Not even a flash back to touch on that. While I liked Alphonse H, I wasn't as moved as I should have been when he died. Huge missed oppertunity -and I blame the series for this in making Envy a dragon at the end -in exploring Hoho's relationships with his creation. Here you have a good area, now that Ed knows Envy was a) his father's doing and cool.gif technically his brother, one would think he would care what happens to him. We have no idea if Envy was given a fair send off ala Wrath. Also as I remember, it was said several times that the stones had to be used up for them to die. Homunculi are not human, or so we are constantly reminded, so how can they be sacraficed to open the gate? For that matter, did either, Wrath, Gluttony, or Envy use up their stones? And then there's the gate itself. Never mind the fact someone said more then once it's a permente gate, but if the characters were being sent back and forth via a different way, then why did they need the huge gate in the first place? Then their's Roy's sudden depression which is very OOC for him as in the end he seemed happier. And I won't touch on Armstrong and Rose. I agree with The Regal Tigeress the whole trip back in time was a "What were they thinking" moment.

As I said above with Envy and Ed, you had room for a excellent villian here with him. Exploration as to the fact that in that world (our world) Envy would have been pretty much as human and on the same level as Ed. Their relationship could have been explored more, and it would have had a deeper feeling if any exploration or character growth -outside of Ed -could have been shown. But we really didn't get that and FMA to me always seemed to pride itself on growth of characters. By cutting out a lot of the unneeded stuff (a lot of those scenes with the Thule society bored me) and making Envy human or close to it, it could have easily explored the idea of "What really makes us human" as the villian was spewing the fact that she was scared of Ed becuase he was different. Wasn't that what was being said of the Homuculi before?

As for the Villian...she annoyed me. NO personality at all, it took me a while to realize she was the main antagonist. Her actions were just...meh. And her motivations seemed like they were tacked on at the end. It would have been far more interesting if they had used a real person, or at least given her something more then just "I wanted to take over your world." It seemed way out of left feild to me from where the story was going. Why would Hitler even want to go useing Shamballa? It seemed out of place.

For me it left me...sad, yet happy. Mostly I enjoyed the movie. But there are just factors in it that I think could have been made a lot clearer or better and the storywould have become far more interesting. But those are just my two cents.
Durren the Ice Alchemist
i'm angry at 2 things
1. no alternate mustang mad.gif and
2. no alternate kimblee mad.gif

other than that it was kinda good. Oh, and ed's dad had way the hell to much blood than a normal person should have.
Ana~Banana~bel
I liked the movie alot, but like most of you, i feel that "something" was missing. I mean it's pretty obvious that the movie left questions and there were some holes in the plot, but i really think that that had to do with the time restraint for the theatrical release. They did chuck out of of stuff from the initial story script.

As for the ending...i don't think any other ending of an anime has affected me so much. It was bittersweet in all aspects. On the one hand, Ed and Al staying together was awesome. On the other hand, as someone pointed out before, the fact that they are stuck on the other side and are unable to use alchemy after all the amazing ablilities they acquired in the series, sucked. I just can't wrap my mind around that. Though i guess we can rejoice in the fact that they stayed together as they had always fought to.

And lastly, the fact that Ed didn't spend a hell of alot of time with Roy, Winry, or any of the other characters and had little interaction with them bugs me the most of anything. I especially would have liked to see Ed and Roy chat it up some since so much had happened to both(maybe thats the RoyXEd fan in me), but we all love those characters and instead we got see Ed interact more with the characters from the other side, which though it wasn't bad, left me very disspaointed.

I just don't think that it really put everything to rest. Though on the other hand, maybe thats how they wanted to portray it, that the main thing was that Ed and Al just wind up together. Still....i think that they left room for something more, maybe it's just the optimist in me, but they could easily make another movie or even a continuation of the series though the latter is doubtful.
Nicoli Flamel
@Ana~Banana~bel: I happen to agree with you on the fact that it was disappointing seeing the interaction so displaced. I mean, yes I understand that Ed was in this world and had to deal with the character's here. But there was little life to their interactions in most cases. He wasn't grounded with them the same way he was with the other characters.

What really got to me was the lack luster villian. They had the perfect set up with Envy, and what did they do? Go and make him a dragon and then just kill him. Bah.

NF
Ana~Banana~bel
QUOTE(Nicoli Flamel @ Sep 27 2006, 12:03 PM) [snapback]452033[/snapback]

@Ana~Banana~bel: I happen to agree with you on the fact that it was disappointing seeing the interaction so displaced. I mean, yes I understand that Ed was in this world and had to deal with the character's here. But there was little life to their interactions in most cases. He wasn't grounded with them the same way he was with the other characters.

What really got to me was the lack luster villian. They had the perfect set up with Envy, and what did they do? Go and make him a dragon and then just kill him. Bah.

NF


Yea, that was another thing...i think because of the time restraint, there wasn't alot of time to develop a more profound and effective relationship bewteen the villain -whats-her-face- and Ed, so even though the fight was kool in the end, it didn't have THAT much of an effect on me, so instead i found myslef focusing on what Ed and his interactions with the others would be, and since there wasn't that much, i was kinda sad about it.

I'm kinda hoping that if the time rolls around, all the people that participated in the FMA project can get away from their current projects at the time and do another movie or SOMETHING. It could have been better. And even though sappy or typically happy endings are just that, "typical", i think that after all the bull Ed and Al went through they kinda deserve it, as does Roy, Hawkeye and the rest.
Nicoli Flamel
I really hope they make another movie or series. I mean...heck it would make sense to have one since they have that gate still open, and the question of the guy still alive. Wouldn't mind seeing Ling Yao in there either.

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Yea, that was another thing...i think because of the time restraint, there wasn't alot of time to develop a more profound and effective relationship bewteen the villain -whats-her-face- and Ed, so even though the fight was kool in the end, it didn't have THAT much of an effect on me, so instead i found myslef focusing on what Ed and his interactions with the others would be, and since there wasn't that much, i was kinda sad about it.


But that's the thing. If it is time limited, why even bother creating a new villian? Why not use the relationship between Ed and Envy as the fuel for it. I mean Envy even said that he wanted homunculi domination. It would have worked better if he had been the villian.

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I'm kinda hoping that if the time rolls around, all the people that participated in the FMA project can get away from their current projects at the time and do another movie or SOMETHING. It could have been better. And even though sappy or typically happy endings are just that, "typical", i think that after all the bull Ed and Al went through they kinda deserve it, as does Roy, Hawkeye and the rest.


Same here, I'm not holding my breath, but it would be really nice. I mean I won't beg for a happy ending, but something more conclusive then an open gate, and a lot of unanswered questions.
hisokaomi
And no alternate Ed... damn, why am I seeing 2 Al???
Nicoli Flamel
Simple, Alphonse H, was the Al of our world. The Ed of our world died in a *false* zepline crash.
Truth behind all Truths
Alright I'm new to this, but the introduction doesn't matter, I'll just crack to it.

I don't feel the movie had a "closed" or "definite" ending. If anything I feel it has left itself open for enhancments or alter-endings, or even more possible, some form of a FMA 2. My reasons.

1. Alchemy can be performed on this(our world) side of the gate.
Example; Hoenheim(sp?) can open the gate from both sides, Ed opens the gate when his (or Hoenheim's) blood touched the appropriate circle.

2. Envy isin't killed...and on that thought, we dont "actually" see Hoenheim die either, just alot of blood. Importance; Envy or, any homunculi(sp?) is apparently key in opening the gate, with Envy's apparent survival Ed and Al, and Envy all have a technical way to reopen the gate from this side.

2b. Edit; I was wrong about Envy, and Hoenheim, they both are transmuted into the material needed to open the gate on our side. Though it does bring up an interesting thought about what exactly happens to them when they are sent back...yeah I know Wrath gets to go back with Izumi, but Wrath was a special exception when it came to the himunculi anyways.

3. The gates don't need to be open on both ends. All opened the gate because he was going to go to our world to search for Ed, and ofcourse the Thule society opened the gate on our side for the Nazi's.
Reasoning; The troops who initially invaded Amestis(sp?) didn't need the gate on that side to be open to come out there. It is possible to temporarily open the gate from our side and to pass through, dangerous yes, but possible.

4. Al. He's on our side, it is possible that his "composition" or his attachment to the philosipher's stone (I am assuming here that his missing memories or "parts of his soul" from the series came back to him as he passed the gate and with it the attachment of the philosipher's stone re-attached to his soul (Scar attached the stone to his soul not his body or armour, and I think when they used it's power to regain his body it was spent and taken, thus the parts of his memories that where attached to that part of his soul where taken also, but passing through to our side he regained that part of his soul and I think the stone also) Its a leap to believe, but its my minds twist.
Importance; Al may be able to use Alchemy, we dont know he can't, we didn't see him try on our side at the end, he might be able to do it.

5. "The Gate Children". they can be used as the materials to reopen the gate (know I dont know if its "actually" possible, but some clever writer might make it work.

6. Most importantly, Full Metal Alchemist makes an absolute @$$ load of money, and while I dont know anything about how its recieved in Japan, I know in America anime people love it. Even I love it, and I'm not an anime person "per se". However I do know this, companies love money, so do people, and if something sells, someone, somewhere, sometime will make more.

Anyway, if anyone has read this all, thanks for your time, and I hope I made sense.

Post moved. :}
HagaRen016
QUOTE(Mikage_Elric @ Feb 22 2006, 04:48 PM) [snapback]353391[/snapback]

I was really sad when Heiderich got killed. i was like "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! He was the hot one!!!!"

You realize that the Al in your Sig pic is actually Ed's Al? (Notice the BROWN eyes?)
Darkjad
I had mixed feelings about the end of the anime, and then the end of the movie.


First, allow me to preface this. I am actually glad that Roy & Hawkeye were never shown getting together, and I don't mind that Ed & Winry never made it.
Why?
Frankly, it's cliche. The heroes get their girls. Yay. Who saw that coming?
While I'm pretty sure Hawkeye & Roy make it in the end, actually showing it would be mostly irrelevant. I wouldn't have minded seeing it, but I don't mind not seeing it.

FMA was never a happy anime, and that's the way I love it. Sure, it definitely had it's lighthearted moments - and then Nina was a bloodstain on an alleyway wall. And then Ed nearly transmuted a pile of prisoners into the Philosophers Stone. And then Scar transmuted an army into the Philosophers Stone.
An anime where the villains are the seven deadly sins (one of which is a mockery of the protagonist's mother, one is a mockery of the protagonist's stepson [Envy was Hohenheim's dead son, wasn't he? I'm unsure here though], one villain has the protagonist's arm and leg . . .) is NOT a happy one.
So does it deserve a happy ending? I'd actually be disappointed if the boys went back to Resembool with Winry and a random girl for Al (give him Noah, or Rose I suppose).


Frankly, I was completely thrown off by the whole parallel world plot. I mean, sure, the WWII references weren't exactly very subtle (Fuhrer, military names, Ishbal genocide . . .) but I still thought that the parallel world was messed up and random. FMA had basically relied on a form of science, of rules and logic, until then. Granted, alchemy isn't real (their form of alchemy isn't) but it DID follow equivalent trade.

As I thought about it though, Fullmetal Alchemist portrays a world of dualisms and dichotomies. The story follows two brothers, who encounter more brothers in their travels (the two who imitated them; Scar and his late brother, the two Ishbal brothers, etc). Ed was missing TWO limbs.

A parallel world actually makes perfect sense. Throw in the various historical references and the movie actually takes on a whole new level. The beer hall was historically accurate (at least, it's name was). Deep.


At the end of the day, I still don't like the parallel world implementation. Aside from extrapolating from the theme of 'two' from the anime (and assuming two worlds), there was NO buildup to the parallel world. It really felt to me like the anime guys had no idea what was beyond the gate, and had to do something shocking. Everything else in the anime was foreshadowed, even slightly.
Then just 'BAM'. "Oh, equivalent exchange isn't real. And there's another world. And some people can go through the gate, just because they can. Oh, and babies open the gate real easy. 'Natch."

But, if I accept the parallel world concept, then I really liked the movie. Solid ending, stayed true to FMA (not happy).


I loved the visual style of the parallel worlds though. The real world looking more colourless and grainy? Reminded me of Corpsebride, actually. But a good effect.

And Hughes was a nazi! I LOVED Hughes! Blast!

-JaD


Edit
Oh, and speaking of random 'BAM' filmmaking moments - I forgot to actually mention the movie!
Eckhart attacking Amestris? Ok, so they pulled out the fear motivator . . . but how the hell did she suddenly gain special superalchemy that makes guns? How did she control the tentacle things from the gate? (She wrapped Ed's arm in one, until he cut it.) Why were all the soldiers crushed going through the gate, but Ed and Hohenheim weren't? Why weren't the soldiers crushed the second time? And they made flying ships, not rockets? And they made SEVERAL flying ships? /sigh
DantElric
Somewhat happy, because Al managed to follow Ed. Sad (Angry?), because they left Winry in the other world.
They made Al cry (almost cry?) lots of times. I hate that.
Meitantei Conan
well I like the FMA Movie cuz it made me think alot but its messed up that they left wirny sad.gif
Amol
I felt glad the way it ended, even if it wasn't perfect.

atleast the both brothers were together....was a decent ending...though it could have been better !
Francesco Carter
I felt happy somewhat, but i didn't want it to end. It's the best anime i have ever seen.
~Wolven Alchemist~
I felt both happy and sad, and so I cried. Partly because Ed and Al left Winry and everyone else, and partly because now they can't do their alchemy. And probably also because of that song called Lost Heaven (during the credits at the end). But I was happy that Ed and Al finally got back together.
Mudkipblader
I felt kinda wierd after seeing the ending.
When I watched the last episode I felt there was something missing. It just couldn't be the end. I have never felt like that after seeing an anime. I did once but it was different.
I was so glad when I heard there was a movie. I liked the movie, it's high on my favorite list.
I was kinda sad that Ed and Al left there world for good. But the Hagaren Kids OAV made room for a next chapter (I know I'm going crazy)
I know that they didn't have anything to return too, but leaving their Family (Winry and Aunt Pinako and all there friends) behind, that made me sad, really sad...
I guess, if I put myself in Ed's head (XD), Edward didn't really know how much everyone cared for him. That's the feeling I get.
Naivete
After the last episode of FMA, I though "hey wait, this isn't right; how could they just leave it like that?". After watching the movie, that was also my initial reaction.

I didn't like the way they combined 3D and 2D animations together, especially the part when Wrath leads Al to Old Central. They should have either used one or another >=(
Arthur-F.Metal4life
man i was happy and sad cause it had to end like that but u know i was happy that they reunited and it was very nice but there wont be no more series and movies and that is very ++++++ up lazy directors that cant make more series
Indignant Judgment
I wasn't particularly happy on WHERE it endend but was happy that the Elric brothers were reunited again happy.gif I was expecting more focus on their world then ours because most of us know what its like in our world...My emotions were sad after the movie because it ended the series sad.gif and a little bit angry because why couldn't they stay in their world? If they would have sealed the gate on their side, wouldn't that mean they could stay in their world because don't you need both sides to be open to pass through? mad.gif
Alchemical
I was happy that they reunited, but I was very mad that they reunited in our world where it would have made a much better ending if they would've stayed in their world. After the anger went away, I was sad for days-.-
Claudius
QUOTE(ArmouredSoul @ Mar 17 2007, 11:28 AM) [snapback]518793[/snapback]
I wasn't particularly happy on WHERE it endend but was happy that the Elric brothers were reunited again happy.gif I was expecting more focus on their world then ours because most of us know what its like in our world...My emotions were sad after the movie because it ended the series sad.gif and a little bit angry because why couldn't they stay in their world? If they would have sealed the gate on their side, wouldn't that mean they could stay in their world because don't you need both sides to be open to pass through? mad.gif


SIGH...

Anyway, sealing the gate from their world wouldn't have solved anything. The real world still had the open Envy-gate (with no signs of closing). Even with a one-sided gate, the Thule Society was still able to send a small army to Liore. Just think what would happen if the gate remained open to the Third Reich...

About the beginning expression: I seem to be the only person in this forum who actually liked the ending (except for the total lack of closure for Mustang: didn't he crash?). Then again, I seem to be the only person who liked Nazi Hughes and the only person who thought Movie Roy was in-character.
Yes, the Brothers Elric are forever separated from their world, but they are together. This is not Son Goku abandoning his family for the umpteenth time. Sure, EdxWinry is gone, but then the anime never really explored that relationship on being anything more than a family friendship.
As for the 'cruel world' complaint, is the FMA world a brighter, better one in comparison? Dante and the Homunculus wiped out a major portion of pre-1500 civilization to the point of non-existence. Compared to that, the Nazi Holocaust in our world was a severed limb injury: gruesome, horrible, psychologically scarring, but survivable.
And don't label the Brothers as babes in the woods. The future awaiting them is no worse than the future they walked to after burning Casa Elric. This time they are survivors who have experienced a lot. They'll be okay.
Besides, the ending has possibiliites. I'd love to see Alphonse's experiences with motion pictures, our world literature, baseball, flying, etc.

Claudius
Ting
I was kinda sad... id say diappointed... TT.TT no more FMA >.<
Chiisana
I was sad, because then it means that FMA animation really ended T_T
I was angry, for Ed tried to leave Al
I was happy, that Ed & Al finally could stay together with each other >w<
I was confuse, for the jugdement Ed had taken to go back to "our" world instead of staying in Amestries, where people actually "know" him.

Even sad when seeing everyone became so "grown up" *-* Ed, Al, Winry...
Ratzenheich FMA Super fan
Very sad because it's so hard to say goodbye to something I will remember for the rest of my life. It was good while it lasted. With the movie ending that way, I'm absolutely postive that in the right mind of the creators of the FMA series, there won't be a sequel. Just think of what will happen after the events of the movie...

Ed and Al had to leave everyone else to be together and start a new life. It probably felt more meaningful to them living a brand new life in the other world. Though I'm sure that it's still hard to leave everyone you've ever known.

I remember the last scene as I write this...

Al: So, where are we headed to now brother?
Ed: First we have to track down that uranium bomb that was brought over from the other side. A weapon like that shouldn't exist, no matter which world it's in.
Al: People are saying another great war is inevitable here. Are you sure we should get invovled in their battles?
Ed: Like I said Al, we can't keep thinking we're all that matter and that the world has nothing to do with us. This goes for both sides of the gate. This is where we live. It's home now, and we have to do our part.
*Ed looks at Al
*Al looks back at Ed with a smile signifying "ok". The song "Lost Heaven" by L`Arc~En~Ciel plays. The tragic-like symphony starts to heighten feelings.
*The truck leaves towards the horizon and the Elric brothers turn their heads and face the road beyond and the viewpoint aims at the azure skies for a hint of sentimentality. If you notice the atmosphere is a bit more gloomy in this world.
*The viewpoint is now at the Rockbell's house and we see Rose, Pinako, Armstrong playing with the kids. The atmosphere in the world of Amestris is more vibrant if you compare the scenes.
*The viewpoint is now in a room with Winry polishing the dog's nails and there's a cork board with pictures
*The viewpoint zooms on the cork board and we see pictures of mainly Ed and Al and what may send down a chill down the spine of any FMA fan is the picture of Ed and Al in formal wear. It may signify something. Before the tragedy and after. Memories. It's the last scene in the FMA series and it leaves a lasting impression with mixed feelings, usually sadness and anxiety.

And after the very last scene of the Fullmetal Alchemist series, we start to hear the lyrics of "Lost Heaven" and it's just really, really sad listening to the lyrics while looking at the credits signaling the end of the Fullmetal Alchemist series. I started crying in full bursts as I heard the lyrics. I was in tears during the scene where the truck leaves for the horizon but it was only during the credits wherein I cried really hard.

I can't forget what Fritz Lang said as well. It gives a warm feeling.
"Motion pictures, and weapons of war. Science has created them both. So while others point their guns; I'll have my camera, offering fantastic dreams of other worlds, just beyond our reach."

I'm so sorry for the long post but Fullmetal Alchemist is very close to my heart and I have a very strong emotional attachment to the series due to reasons I must disclose. Everytime my senses feel anything related to Fullmetal Alchemist, I feel something I can't explain and my mind becomes very enclosed.

I think the girls here will probably be calling me a sissy or emo right now after reading all that but I don't care.
Super Casual
If they destroyed the gate on their side wouldn't that stop the tunnel? Dumb Ed and his hero complex.
LastExile
It's annoying the way the ended it because they set it up for another one. But they aren't making anymore. At the end Ed said it'd be hard to destroy the gate without alchemy, but they have alchemy! Ed used it himself when he redrew the transmutation circle!
Little Washu
Great Movie! Stupid ending. Couldn't they just like, stay on the Amestrian side? I mean, Ich gern Deutschland und all, but they could've taken Noah with them and lived happily ever after.
Super Casual
I regret watching the movie. It messed up my life in a way because the ending sucks. Well, in a way, it teaches that life is not perfect, not even in anime, but the WHOLE point of watching anime is to escape real life. F U director of CoS, F U!
Nekokitty
I liked the movie and I didn't mind the ending.
The whole point of the movie was for Ed and Al to get back together which they did. Hurray for subliminal Elricest messages!
Though I still find it sad that they left Winry behind. sad.gif
Fushi
Eh. I wasn't as disappointed as I would've been had I gotten my hopes up for the movie. Good thing I didn't c:

But it did get to me. Honestly, I don't consider it a real ending. It felt like fanfiction to me. Not bad fanfiction, but not good fanfiction. That forgetable kind. There was an over all lack of detail and characterization. Not to mention pretty much all the original cast sans Ed didn't get all that much screen time and the loose ends at the end bothered me.

My full, elaborated rant on the movie can be found here. If you're interested that is. ;3
Mariel Dragon
I am very sad because [spoiler]Ed and Winry will never see again. I hoped so much for both of them to fall in love (I think they actually are in love, at least Winry) and become a couple...[/spoiler] but the movie was quite good, although they are [spoiler]trapped now in the real world without friends or alchemy[/spoiler]
SwiftFeather
It made me cry out of both happiness and sadness. sad.gif

because of al... [spoiler]he actually followed ed to the other side and got trapped there with him... and they cannot use alchemy anymore... so sad!!! X([/spoiler]
Plasmajosh
SOME MILD SPOILERS WITHIN


I've just finished watching the entire series on DVD including the Movie and i have to say that i don't like the way that it ended. It is both sad and good - it ends on good terms with everyone getting pretty much what they set out for, but it's just different from what you'd expect.

It seems quite sad that this group that we have become accustomed to seeing together has been split apart and there seems no way for it to be brought back together. But it also does a good job of leaving it alone and making sure not to turn it into one of those money-mongering shows that goes from a great story in the first series to a joke and loss of intentions and ideals in a second showing.

It almost seems like it ends abruptly like there is supposed to be more, but directors decided not to take it further in the fears that it may conform to the way that these stories are usually told and hurt what is created through out the series.

It might seem like it's really stupid to have the movie end that way but after all that was said throughout the series about Equivalent Exchange and the gate that pulls off limbs and kills people, do you think that they could have changed everything back to normal without having some really big really stupid "insert plot device here" moment?

Like i said it is sad for it to have ended like that but it's the best the director could do without breaking his own rules/conventions that were setup in the series.

It's better to think "Man it seems like there should be more" and have a somewhat well rounded ending, rather than have a moment where all the characters of FullMetal make a human chain through the gate and pull the Elrics back through and say "That was a stupid excuse for an ending that makes no sense at all."
MrsAlphonseElric
I was sad, but I was happy

I was happy because the Elric brothers are finally together again, and I'm SUPER happy that Al has gotten his body back, but it saddened me because Winry, Roy, and all their other friends are on the other side of the gate. And, then all those people had to die...Alphons Heiderich, Honenheim, Wrath...it was really sad, but I'm just happy that Al and Ed are together again.
piggy
the movie and the anime itself was great especially with all the real life emotions

but i was really mad that they changed the whole thing.

it became TOTALLY different from the manga
and i love the manga

but the movie was awesome!
adriel
I felt good for the bros but it was sad, and I thought "great, another bittersweet ending for a good anime."

I have yet to watch a series that ends REALLY well without spoiling the beauty of its ending. I want to believe that it's possible. It's not like there's a law saying that "The best anime endings are bittersweet endings."
Winter Phantom
I was happy for Ed and Al but sad since they left their friends(wouldn't call Roy exactly a friend to Ed)on the other side.T-T Not even a hello and good bye to Pinako! But it also made me happy since the Elric Brothers are renuited once more!!
saponin
im happy for ed & al getting together again, but i was disappointed because the other characters werent developed as much as i hoped.

i mean Roy and Riza, COME ON! tongue.gif they had like 0.000000001ths of the screen time. :/
Causmicfire
I'd have to say I'm not happy at all with the way BONES ended it, the only good thing at all about it is that Ed and Al got to live in the same world.
Chibi_Girl29
Happy yet sad because it wasn't a happy ending and there probably won't be any more to FMA. happy.gif
Too bad that BONES really focused on ED's story in the movie.... They' should've focused a litlle bit more on Roy's story (i don't really understand why he's in the middle of ''north pole'' or something. And wy did he became a croporal ?)
Caribe
QUOTE(Chibi_Girl29 @ Aug 25 2007, 02:57 AM) *
Happy yet sad because it wasn't a happy ending and there probably won't be any more to FMA. happy.gif
Too bad that BONES really focused on ED's story in the movie.... They' should've focused a litlle bit more on Roy's story (i don't really understand why he's in the middle of ''north pole'' or something. And wy did he became a croporal ?)


Right, I felt the same. Plotholes is the real enemy in this movie. Which are the missing scenes that appear on the DVD?
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