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Aoko-chan
First time FMA manga readers, please post your thoughts and discussions on chapter 56 here. smile.gif


For info about the "Reading Reference", go to page 20.


I know.. its still the 30th of January, but... many cliff hangers from the last chappy, why not start a topic now??

Hangers
- Where is Hohenheim going (from Chappy 54)
- Does Ling have control (or partial control) over his body?
- What terms did Greed agree to with Ling (he DID say there would be terms and deals)
- How did Father use the anti-alchemy
- Where is Mei Chang and Xiao Mei?
- and any more that might come to your minds....


<Last edited by Michiyo- on June 26, 2011>
bemused_non-alchemist
I like the idea of a schizo GreedLing. o_o Even if it's pretty unlikely, since Ling willingly gave Greed total control over his body.

Maybe Greed would do something that Ling violently objects to, deal or no deal. Then Ling would try to grapple control away from Greed to prevent him from doing whatever it is, even to the point of *gasp* suicide. The drama...
Full Metal Elf
Yea...there were a lot of cliffhangers.

One thing too....Father said to bring Ed and Al to Wrath's place. Is Roy still there?? So, if they bring them to see Wrath, they may run into Roy, though that's unlikely, but you never know wink.gif.

I do want to find out where Hohenheim is going.....(sigh)....if only the day would come...too long to wait!
Nepharski
I'f Ling's soul is still in the balance, then that mean's Bradley's former self is in a similar situation, albeit it's been stiffled for years. Schizophrenic Gring could be an interesting turn of events.

Envy's out of Gluttony's stomach now (Gluttony is toast, in my opinon). When's it going to change back, eh?

And when is Hohenheim going off to?
LordPerseus
Scar too Mei Chang and Xiao Mei and jumped into the water after creating the dust bomb (I think). I think eventually Ling will get control over Greeds body.
bemused_non-alchemist
QUOTE(Nepharski @ Jan 31 2006, 08:49 AM) [snapback]345014[/snapback]

I'f Ling's soul is still in the balance, then that mean's Bradley's former self is in a similar situation, albeit it's been stiffled for years. Schizophrenic Gring could be an interesting turn of events.


It could indeed. But Ling voluntarily gave his body to Greed, while Wrath grabbed control forcibly from Bradley. This might've permanently damaged/crippled the original soul beyond redemption, who knows?

Gluttony is not just toast, he's dead meat. He's dead meat on toast. I just wonder how his death is going to tie up with the whole "swallowing snakes" thing from Dante's Inferno, if I remember correctly. Perhaps a lizard falls from the ceiling and whacks him on the head, hence giving him a fatal concussion. Or not.
Singhay
QUOTE(Nepharski @ Jan 30 2006, 06:49 PM) [snapback]345014[/snapback]

I'f Ling's soul is still in the balance, then that mean's Bradley's former self is in a similar situation, albeit it's been stiffled for years. Schizophrenic Gring could be an interesting turn of events.


I like that thought. lol maybe the series will end with King Bradley back to King Bradley and not Wrath. lol I'm jumping light years a head.
AA battery
WHAT ABOUT RIZA-NEESAMA? ;O;

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Full Metal Elf
I want to know what happens to Riza and gang too!!...Hopefully we'll find out!...happy.gif
Fullmetal Fangirl
Sodeska...

but...

DOES NO ONE CARE ABOUT RIZA-CHAN AND ROY-KUN?!
Qeomash
We'll probably see them in the next chapter as Father did say "take them up to Wrath". Both sides will be able to compare their "dang we got screwed" notes.
Aoko-chan
'course we care about them ;_;
We would see them the next chapter probably *i hope*
GaluxKitty
Roy and Riza had better be in this chapter or I may go mad... XD I don't think that all three of them can be stuck with Bradley; at least one of them will have to escape to keep the story going.
Tombow
Yeah, I'm also anxious to know what's happening with Mustang, and Riza.
Also, curious as to why Father wants Ed and Al taken to Wrath.
Wonder what he has in mind.... unsure.gif
Qeomash
I wonder...does Father know that Roy knows about Bradley's true identity?
Full Metal Elf
And if Roy is still there when Ed and Al are brought to Wrath...hehehe...it's going crazy.

Hahaha..yea..they'll both discuss how they got screwd..

Roy: Good going Fullmetal...at least we're on the same page now..
Ed:..shut up...you're the one who proved USELESS against Gluttony!
Roy:..........

happy.gif

Qeomash
I wouldn't say USELESS against Gluttony. It was his flames that got eaten, allowing Ed and Ling to survive inside with the torches.
Full Metal Elf
Oh yes...I forgot about that..happy.gif....so he did turn out useful...
Sensenic
QUOTE(Qeomash @ Feb 1 2006, 08:40 PM) [snapback]345528[/snapback]

I wouldn't say USELESS against Gluttony. It was his flames that got eaten, allowing Ed and Ling to survive inside with the torches.

Yeah, but he doesn't know THAT, does he? wink.gif
Full Metal Elf
Nope...he doesn't know that yet...happy.gif....and Ed will probably conviently forget to tell him too...hehehe
AA battery
hahaha, poor ROy. Pwned XD

I wonder how Ran Fun is doing now, too.
Full Metal Elf
Me too!...She looked so sad before...and I know she'll be sad when she finds out about Ling..T_T.

I also want to know how Havoc is doing!..The poor guy...I hope something can be done!
Otoki Tomoe
QUOTE(bemused_non-alchemist @ Jan 30 2006, 10:48 PM) [snapback]345098[/snapback]

Gluttony is not just toast, he's dead meat. He's dead meat on toast. I just wonder how his death is going to tie up with the whole "swallowing snakes" thing from Dante's Inferno, if I remember correctly. Perhaps a lizard falls from the ceiling and whacks him on the head, hence giving him a fatal concussion. Or not.

Isn’t Envy himself sort of lizard-y and snake-y?
Qeomash
You're RIGHT....maybe he eats Envy in this form and that kills both him and Envy...

What was the death predicted for Envy? I can't remember! XD
Tombow
QUOTE(Full Metal Elf @ Feb 1 2006, 06:49 PM) [snapback]345627[/snapback]

Me too!...She looked so sad before...and I know she'll be sad when she finds out about Ling..T_T.

I also want to know how Havoc is doing!..The poor guy...I hope something can be done!

Me, three!! I want to know how Ran Fan is doing, and also Havoc's update, too!!
They can't just go away and dissappear off the manga pages!!
It will be nice if they can come back to help Mustang and the gang, and/or Ling/Ed/Al in some way.
Otoki Tomoe
QUOTE(Qeomash @ Feb 2 2006, 04:22 PM) [snapback]345912[/snapback]

You're RIGHT....maybe he eats Envy in this form and that kills both him and Envy...

What was the death predicted for Envy? I can't remember! XD

I could be wrong, but I think it was freezing? I'm too tired to look it up right now. tongue.gif

Edit: Oh, but didn't Gluttony already eat Envy? I mean, he just basically puked out Envy, Edward, and Ling. While not the cause of his death (if he really is, indeed, dead this time), they probably contributed.
Colette
QUOTE(Qeomash @ Feb 2 2006, 04:22 PM) [snapback]345912[/snapback]

You're RIGHT....maybe he eats Envy in this form and that kills both him and Envy...

What was the death predicted for Envy? I can't remember! XD

Well, he should die by freezing to death....


And...Isn't it winter right now in FMA? unsure.gif
Aoko-chan
Its winter in FMA? I thought it was spring or something :S maybe Envy will get frozen when they move up North :S who knows

I feel sorry for RanFan... with Ling now Greed!Ling
MasterKris
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I feel sorry for RanFan... with Ling now Greed!Ling

ah~ his new name is now, Gring!
Kirara
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ah~ his new name is now, Gring!


That is only on this forum on the LJ boards he is known as Greedling. Personally I prefer Greedling because it can have more than one meaning (Greedling= Little Greed)
Sikiu-San
QUOTE(Tombow @ Feb 2 2006, 05:52 PM) [snapback]345931[/snapback]

QUOTE(Full Metal Elf @ Feb 1 2006, 06:49 PM) [snapback]345627[/snapback]

Me too!...She looked so sad before...and I know she'll be sad when she finds out about Ling..T_T.

I also want to know how Havoc is doing!..The poor guy...I hope something can be done!

Me, three!! I want to know how Ran Fan is doing, and also Havoc's update, too!!
They can't just go away and dissappear off the manga pages!!
It will be nice if they can come back to help Mustang and the gang, and/or Ling/Ed/Al in some way.

Havoc i forgot about him Dx *sobs* i want to know how he is doing as well ;-; and if roy has been captured by wrath then how is he going to get that doctor he was talking about way back when to make havoc all better Dx
Nepharski
I have a feeling Ran Fan will come back into the spotlight soon, but not in the way people want. Remember, she has no idea what's been going on since Gluttony went mad, and thus no idea of where anyone is. I imagine she'll try looking of Ling, but run into other troubles of some sort.

And every chapter that clicks by is another chapter closer to seeing the face of the deadliest of sins.
Elohir
Another question: is why Scar and Mei use alchemy ohmy.gif ?
Lurk3r
yeah...that is a good question....my guess is that the alchemy they use is somehow different from that used by Ed and Al, and thus not affected by Father's anti-alchemy. However, that begs the question of how is Mei and Scar's alchemy different?
Colette
I think that Greed/Ling will die and give Ed and Al his Stone...I don't want it to happen, but I think it might.


If he doesn't do that, he'll probably join ed and Al.
Seeker of Truth
I just feel bad for Ed, it seems that whatever his dad is and whatever powers he has are not genetically shared or Ed would have his limbs back already (unless they only activate when he gains a certain height! laugh.gif rolleyes.gif ).
Colette
I forgot....Ran Fan can sense a homunculus....So...Ling!Greed...X_x
Animeoldtimer
That will be quite a confrontation. I wonder if Ran Fan will be getting a new arm too. I don't think we'll find out just yet.

I think we will get to see Roy in the next issue though. Wrath is having quite a gathering at his house. biggrin.gif

Sensenic
QUOTE(Otoki Tomoe @ Feb 3 2006, 12:07 AM) [snapback]345937[/snapback]

I could be wrong, but I think it was freezing? I'm too tired to look it up right now. tongue.gif

Freezing it was
QUOTE(Otoki Tomoe @ Feb 3 2006, 12:07 AM) [snapback]345937[/snapback]

Edit: Oh, but didn't Gluttony already eat Envy? I mean, he just basically puked out Envy, Edward, and Ling. While not the cause of his death (if he really is, indeed, dead this time), they probably contributed.

Yeah, I thought it would probably sth like this... I mean, it's difficult to kill Gluttony by making him eat rats and snakes... So I'm afraid this was the closest thing she could ome up with.

I hope I'm wrong tho', and Arakawa sensei manages to find some other more coherent and surprising way to kill off Gluttony within the punishment method.
QUOTE(Summoner Colette @ Feb 3 2006, 04:19 AM) [snapback]346083[/snapback]

And...Isn't it winter right now in FMA? unsure.gif

Eh? No... When did they say sth like that?
QUOTE(Kirara @ Feb 4 2006, 02:38 AM) [snapback]346411[/snapback]

QUOTE

ah~ his new name is now, Gring!


That is only on this forum on the LJ boards he is known as Greedling. Personally I prefer Greedling because it can have more than one meaning (Greedling= Little Greed)

Oh, come on... Where's the Lingreed love now? I mean, the last letter matches the first one, it's MEANT to be this way!

LOL, this reminds me of that DBZ scene when Gotenks and Trunks do the fusion and everyone's wondering what'll be the name of the result: Trunkten? Gotenks?
QUOTE(Elohir @ Feb 4 2006, 11:36 AM) [snapback]346551[/snapback]

Another question: is why Scar and Mei use alchemy ohmy.gif ?

QUOTE(Lurk3r @ Feb 4 2006, 05:29 PM) [snapback]346568[/snapback]

yeah...that is a good question....my guess is that the alchemy they use is somehow different from that used by Ed and Al, and thus not affected by Father's anti-alchemy. However, that begs the question of how is Mei and Scar's alchemy different?

They use Rentanjutsu (art of making potions/elixirs), which is different in some point from renkinjutsu (art of transforming metals, alchemy). Apparently Father brought Renkinjutsu to Amestris, but someone else from Xerxes (Hoho? Saaa...) brought Rentanjutsu to Xing, which, apprently, Father doesn't know of/can't control.

There's a post in the chapter 55 thread where someone explained it very well.
QUOTE(Summoner Colette @ Feb 4 2006, 06:09 PM) [snapback]346570[/snapback]

I think that Greed/Ling will die and give Ed and Al his Stone...I don't want it to happen, but I think it might.


If he doesn't do that, he'll probably join ed and Al.

Gosh! Vade retro! It has to be the 2nd one!

No, really, fanboyisms apart, keeping in mind how the topic of "racism" has been appearing between hommunculi and humans, I hope that Lingreed will join Ed and Al, somehow proving that both species can live together and don't need to fight to death.
Or, at least, that's what I'd like!
QUOTE(Summoner Colette @ Feb 4 2006, 07:37 PM) [snapback]346596[/snapback]

I forgot....Ran Fan can sense a homunculus....So...Ling!Greed...X_x

Nope, she shouldn't be able to detect Lingreed, just like neither her nor Ling could detect King "Wrath" Bradley...

Now, she should be obviously capable of SEEING his hommunculus eye and his uroboros' tattoo so... X_x anyway, indeed.
AA battery
Lurk3r: cute Temari avatar o_o

Sensenic: You said everything that I was gonna say XD Nice one on the racism issue too
Fullmetal_Bastard
Wheres the chapter?
LordPerseus
not out yet
Sensenic
QUOTE(armor-alchemist @ Feb 5 2006, 01:12 AM) [snapback]346696[/snapback]

Lurk3r: cute Temari avatar o_o

Agr33d
QUOTE(armor-alchemist @ Feb 5 2006, 01:12 AM) [snapback]346696[/snapback]

Sensenic: You said everything that I was gonna say XD Nice one on the racism issue too

Sensenic Inc.
Stealing your posts since april 2005!

Pleased to serve you \(u_u )

And aboutthe racism issue... It's been since the beginning, with Envy and Lust saying humans were lower/sad creatures... "oroka" I think was the word.
And Roy and Ling have called them "monsters" many times. And that dialog between Envy and Ling, priceless:
Envy: "I'll never be defeated by such a low thing as you, human"
Ling: "Don't underestimate us, hommunculus"

(or sth like that, I don't have the chapter at hand happy.gifU)

And Roy and Wrath's conversations as of late... I hope this topic comes out more and ends up showing that both of them can live on without needing to hate/fear the other.
GaluxKitty
4 days until Chapter 56!! biggrin.gif

I really hope we at least get to see Roy in this chapter. I also really want to see How Havoc is going @_@ I refuse to believe he's become totally useless to Roy's cause.

I think this chapter might be a lot more talk; the last chapter was mainly action plus also I have no doubt that Bradley will want to mess with their minds. XD I also think at least one of the characters will have to escape eventually, to keep the story going. Unless Arakawa decides to focus on the Homunculi or Roy's subordinates for a few chapters, which I doubt...
Nepharski
Well, let's take some things into account. We know that the Homunculi's plans are in their final stages (Chapter 13), and that the North is going to be the next place to strike. Now, in every other situation where they've caused mayhem, one of the Homunculi has been present somewhere to oversee the Chaos. So, Lust is dead, and Greed, Envy, Gluttony, and Wrath are all in Central, thus leaving only two fellows left...

I want to know where Hohenheim was going. This "X" is of interest to me.
AA battery
QUOTE(GaluxKitty @ Feb 5 2006, 03:25 PM) [snapback]347012[/snapback]

Unless Arakawa decides to focus on the Homunculi or Roy's subordinates for a few chapters, which I doubt...


Actually, I don't doubt that. I can see it happening... well, probably not for a few chapters, but only 1 ~ 2 chapters (arakawa is good at cliffhanging us.)
Chiyo
*sits and raps nails on desk*

I'm not going to hazard what will happen as I'll only get it wrong. Still I like to see what everyone else thinks
MasterKris
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Actually, I don't doubt that. I can see it happening... well, probably not for a few chapters, but only 1 ~ 2 chapters (arakawa is good at cliffhanging us.)

Too good that I wannna burst through her house saying, "IS IT DONE YET??!!!!!"
Disastorm
when do chapters get released?
Tombow
^^ This month, officially, on 10th in Japan. Usually, on 11th, or somewhere around there.
We don't know exactly when it will come on the net.
(Hopefully, very soon!!!)
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