what actually IS "complicated" in your view? the "complicated" things consist of simple things. That means it is actually simple. Everybody can solve the "most difficult mathematics questions", if he got time and if he is willing to understand the laws of mathematics...



Some things only allow ONE thing to believe in. That is difficult. I do not only believe in one thing, because of my experience in life. There are many things that may be wrong in the laws of my actually religion. Anime for example, actually the Philosophy of these films... I am, too, not perfect.
And you, too, are only believing in physics, in ONE thing.

Of course, I appreciate other ideas, but your main idea is simply "I appreciate beauty, although it all means nothing in the end"<- that HAS to be the consequence if you're not believeing in anything! You are a typical human with his typical instincts, but no believing. You are "just living"(by chance). And that in my eyes actually isn't an idea of life, cause a view of life isn't necessary if you got this view.
I won't say that you aren't allowed to find things beautiful, but think of what i said...
Perhaps i wouldn't be a believer if i would not live in the position(with my talents, with my wealth, etc) as i am now.. The situation in which a person is in, is very important to understand his view of life, but what gives him hope if not believing?...

As i said i tolerate other peoples view, and i tolerate, even yours, but i simply wanted to discuss it with you. These discussions are better than war.

It is easy to say that somebody is "intolerant", only because he is defending his view...I would never die for my view of life.

There are many physicians who want to rule the world, without paying attention to the view of others...<- How easy to play the ball to you, huh?


P.S.: I got friends who don't believe. They are soo intelligent or soo talented, and they sometimes know what i think and i know what they think... But i can't and don't want to believe that they shall burn in hell(after the christian view) for that they don't believe in God...

this is pretty boring
you guys will be

THE ANNOYING ALCHEMISTS[SIZE=7][COLOR=blue]

-.-i am sorry Ienita for the things we discuss...

i would choose Blade Alchemist. n it b tite 2 get 1 of those ignition gloves like roy, except not a flame transmutation circle on it. n b able 2 change ne substance in a sword, blade, knife, etc.
i just think medival timez were awesome, like RPG games.

sorry to keep this thread boring... ban my IP (or whatever) if needed, but i get all riled up when people start talking about religion, because i truly believe that it causes a lot of hate in the world... it's not the believing in a religion that does it, it's the attitude of superiority that people can develop when they strongly believe in something -- and only that thing... they develop a sense that they're more human (than others), or they're the ones living the "right" way (as opposed to others living the "wrong" way), or they were brought to this world as a more privileged, higher-ranked being...

and so continues my response...



when did i say i ONLY believed in physics? i said i believed in it... doesnt mean i say it's the only thing i believe in... physics describes a lot of the world we know... am i gonna be ignorant and say there arent any other possibilites, or that physics explains every single thing in the world? no, but i can definitely admit that it makes a whole lot of sense...



for something to mean something to me i'd have to believe in something (like god? i know u're definitely not referring to believing in science) i don't see the reasoning here... u really cannot be serious when u say the millions (possibly more) of ppl who dont base their beliefs in something like a god -- but in science, for example -- cannot have anything matter to them... if things meant nothing to me, i wouldn't have bothered posting here in the first place...



so if we're all "typical human[s]," what does that make you? obviously you dont believe you're typical so what distinguishes you from us? what's the significance of that difference to you?

and if all of my ranting over the last two of my posts cannot convince you, or at least make you consider, that i do believe in something (but not necessarily a god), then i suppose it will never happen... and that's pretty scary to believe...

umm. who r u?

Beats me... BUT HOWEVER... Physics is usefull... Cars wouldn't work without physics... BUT religion make alot of people feel happier...

that would be pretty darn spiffy, to be able to have all those kinds of weapons at hand.

I don't know if this one was taken or not, but for me, I think Stone Alchemist would be it. I'd like to be able to manipulate any kind of stone or rock... oh the fun I could have with that ~_^

And yes, I also want a pair of Roy's gloves... though I'd keep it with the fire array... because I'm a pyro. ^^;

-ais

i don't know if you are hope... so....



did i say that? as long as they don't interfere in my life, it shall be ok... i posted it already: my post was: "it is okay, if you see triumph in everything you see. That's the right way"... But this combined with the non-belief of the person... we can be lucky that there are such ppl...
AND... shall not a believer believe in something superior as you said? if you believe, you got automatically a superior, but you shall not be superior from other humans...
how can you believe while thinking that how you live is wrong?! That isn't the right way to become a full-believer... Too many doubts aren't good... or else you could never believe in anything...
-> YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE YOUR PRIORITY!!



you are hope, who posted that he doesn't believe, aren't you?

--->>>i know you better than you think, my friend!!.......<<<---

But for you, it is PHYSICS the priority of your life!!
I see physics as the only science that could challenge God. Or else i could also say "I believe in musics".... That's why i am argueing so much and i see physics as the main aspect of your talking-abouts!!!

no, physics, for you can't ->NOT YET<- explain everything. But you - as a physician - believe in it! Then, so WHAT OTHER THINGS are you believing in? Tell me...



for ppl who don't believe, money is important, wealth is important. THEY THEMSELVES ARE IN THEIR FIRST PLACE!! THAT's their beliefs. But what DOES your posting here actually mean to you? That ppl get more tolerant? That ppl pay more attention in what they say? that ppl respect others? What has this for a value to you after death-> life itself? NOTHING!! What are YOU interested in the lives of others?... The only thing that keeps you from suicide is your human instincts...



with "typical humans", i mean animals, animals like apes for example that are intelligent, but don't believe. Who only live and want to continue to live cause of their human instincts(because the things around him pleasures him in his soul or in his body) as i already said...



so what is your beliefs besides physics? beautiful flowers(atoms)? philosophy(a science which can be explained)?

I'd materialize anvils and grand pianos in midair and drop them on unsuspecting folks. Just call me What's up Alchemist?

i think i would have to use a better form of tucker's life alchemy, good enough to make instant people/homunculi.... oh no you can you flame alchemy.... oh well i just transmuted the entire Wu Tang Clan..... now look who just got stomped out..... so i think i would have to go with the name..... The Angry Mob Alchemist

I beg your pardon. That, there? That was offensive.

If I say I'm done with an argument, then I don't post under another name in order to continue and save face, but thanks for implying that I'm completely dishonest.

My advice to you, guest? Give it up. He'll clearly stoop to ad hominem attacks, and such people are worthless to debate.

sorry, but.. Prinz, can u take this to a new thread?

ts ts , pls don't overact, you make a fool of yourself^_^
i wonder that you're still interested in my way of talking...

*kicks thread back to life*

We should have someone decide names for the Alchemists, like the Fuhrer does in FMA.

Unless "bumping" isn't allowed, than I take it back.

Hmmmmmmm i would adapt Ed's style of alchemy o.O

I wouldn't want to be a state alchemist! I'm no dog of the military >.<

Well like ED is a state alchemist but he isnt a dog of the military, he still has common sence like roy mustang over there o.o *throws a noodle at roy*

I wanna be known as the Napalm Alchemist! A mix of Roy's flames and Kimblee's explosion techniques amplified by Napalm=an explosive Roy that's not hindered by water.

Dog doesn't necessarily mean you've become totally brainless in obeying commands, it more of less refers to the fact that both Ed and Roy are both basically slaves to the military, should the military want war, they would be sent out to fight for the military.

Freedom rocks.

*shudders* lord and lady only know what they'll come up with, right?

I'd be the Elemental Alchemist, able to change the temperature/chemical makeup of the air to create small whirlwinds, lightning bolts, water, ice, etc. Of course, then I'll have my sigil/array cut into my hand/automail so it can't be separated from me.

Maybe Roy should do that....
BTW, I re-watched X-men2 and there was this guy called Pyro or something... he is also able to manipulate fire, but cannot create it...JUST LIKE OUR DEAR BELOVED ROY!!!!! Therefore, they are both useless in the rain...

I love the fact that he's so useless in the rain! it makes me grin. All you'd have to do is dump a bucket of water on him and if it hits his gloves he's fairly useless. *snicker*

I bet Roy is more skilled than Pyro though.... and he's got our beloved Riza to be his life long partner....

Yay. My first post.

Marijuana no Renkinjutsushi.

Instead of fighting my enemies, I'll just get them higher than a kite. Besides, who wants to kill someone with the ability to alchemize weed?

W!!! Only thing is I think the State Alchemists might have a problem with that and well the Chronic isnt very effective in a fight.

as for the whole roy being helpless in rain.... well there's always the match trick. also maybe he hasn't thought of it but technically there is a tiny ammount of flame created by the gunpowder charge in a bullet when fired... so riza pulls out a gun and it doesn't just shoot a bullet... think more of a explosive fireball.

Marijuana Renkinjutsushi??? sorry, but you won't coz state alchemists works for the government.. you illegal alchemist you..

Ah, you know, that is a good point and good idea. and it makes him just a wee bit less weak, since we all know Riza is always one step behind Roy at almost every turn.

~ais

i thought of some really dirty ones, but i dont think ill torture you with them

Since when did Amestris become the United States?

Noone detected the sarcasm in me calling myself Marijuana no Renkinjutsu?

But besides that, I think I'd want to be known as the Bone Alchemist.

I don't think they know what marijuana is... (heck, last time I went to the Neatherlands, they had Marijuana flavoured soda and sweets for sale...)

YAY!!! THEN THEY'LL BE THE UNBEATABLE COUPLE!!! GO ROY!! GO RIZA!!!

Well said, Hope. I thought I might jump in, but of course you're right about the religious subject matter clashing with the stated topic - besides after all you just said I don't have much to add.

I'm glad too, because you use far more tolerance and clarity than I would have been able to summon.

One thing I guess I do have to add is this however (and this isn't meant as a slight on anyone); The world of popular science is treated with the same kind of blind reverence that the major religions tend to recieve.

This isn't to say-- wait no nevermind. This should go in another topic.

Well, as has been pointed out, one doesn't choose one's own NCA's title, but I rather liked the idea of the Diamond Alchemist. Quite cool.
In City of Heroes I play a character named 'The Storm Alchemist' who specializes in, y'know, knocking people around with wind and blizzards and lightning and stuff. I have a friend who claims to be the youngest member of the Armstrong family and goes by 'The Stone Alchemist' in keeping with family tradition. Another friend from the mountains North of Central who specializes in freezing alchemical combat calls herself, predictably, The Frost Alchemist.

Edit from two seconds later: Oh no I've done that thing I do and totally neglected the fact that I was not at the end of the most recent posts. I'm responding to something from, like the 2nd or 3rd page.... that is embarassing.

Okay new post, now that I've read the full thread.

I know everyone's just joking around but I feel like being nitpicky. Advance apologies all around.
Bone alchemy sounds awfully close to human transmutation so I'm not sure how far you'd get with that. Angry Mob alchemy is obviously right out. What's Up alchemy would appear to ignore equal trade and is therefore rendered impossible. I don't see the use of having an ignition glove with no array (in case you're lost in the woods and need to start a campfire?). And when has it been illustrated that the recreational use of marijuana is prohibited by Amistrisian law (or, for that matter, that marijuana even exists in their crazy world)?

Okay enough stupid fun-breaking. I think, realistically, I'd probably wind up getting called the Research Alchemist, or the Dictionary Alchemist or something really unflattering like that. Just because I would probably spend most of my time researching as many techniques as I could and advancing unfinished theories and such. Perhaps the Laboratory Alchemist or, if I was even remotely lucky, the All-Trades Alchemist.

I know, how about this? The Tendou Anything-Goes Alchemist. Old-skool represent.

Unrealistically on the other hand (and yes I do know this post is going on too long), I think it would be cool to have a skateboard which you routinely transmuted into some kind of melee weapon and back again. I have no idea what sort of title would come of this however. Skate-Fencing Alchemist? Deckblade Alchemist? I dunno, I'm done.

really? I see so many uses for it! okay, not really. I just want them because I'm a stupid firefighter who would have way too much fun if I had a pair. lol.

~ais

it's so easy to be the most tolerant, and so difficult to be at the same time...

there doesn't exist such a word like "reverence" for physicians...

Let's see......

I suppose I would be the Blocked Sound Alchemist. All I'd have to do is vibrate the air molecules opposite the vibrations of other sounds, thus creating a sound vacuum. You won't hear anything when it ends.... *demonic grin*

As my name says . I'd use water to slip my enemies up, make them fall to a watery grave through the floor, make waves (possibly) etc. etc.




Lol, I should start a poll, asking who smokes here. I've given up basically completely (not that I smoked a lot originally), exams this year, I need to study a LOT!

Kinda like anime-Sloth?

I would like to be called Godess of death

What? What does that even mean?

And it's PhysiCISTS you're talking about. I'm not making fun of you, I just thought you might want to be reminded, since it might help you get taken seriously.
I mean unless you have a problem with doctors...?

My skateboard alchemist didn't even get so much as a response? Aw...shucks. I thought it was at least kinda neat.

But so the ignition glove without a fire-alchemical array would just produce a spark wouldn't it? Not even fire, just a spark. Maybe I have this wrong, but that was my understanding of Mustang's glove.

I have a mostly rhetorical question about the NCA's. If there is an actual answer then I'd be interested to know it, but I don't think it's been stated. Do the NCA's get specialized equipment (like ignition gloves or stone gauntlets)? And if so, do they get to design it themselves? Because if that's the case, we should extend the topic's question to include special commissioned military accoutrements. Y'know like a...vial of some...thing I dunno, I ran outta steam again. Anyone else? Thoughts on this?

Goddess of Death Alchemist? ;

How'd that work...? You transmute them to death...?

Decomposing only, maybe?

Ah, the Scar approach!

It's cool after the first few times, but it just tends to get repetitive...o.O. BTW, when Scar kills people do their souls like go into his arm? It always seemed that way to me.

nah, don't think so...

Soul? I thought he just destroyed their bodies.

Yeah, I'm curious what gave you the impression that he was absobring their souls. I didn't see it that way myself. Unless it's a spoiler, in that case tell me nothing.

I like the decomposition approach. That's kind of cool but only useful in combat really. I like how "alchemy" in this series has been advanced as a science to the point where it can be executed lightning-fast. Kind of a new breed of 'action-alchemy' that finds use in wartime. Can you imagine real alchemists attempting to produce a transmutation in the heat of battle?

Soldier aims gun at Paracelsus, Paracelsus glares harshly at his would-be assailant. The corner of his mouth twitches into a barely-perceptible grin as he whips a piece of chalk out from his pocket. The soldier panics; in no time flat Paracelsus has his array drawn on the ground! In a flash he produces a beaker of liquid and a small burner! The soldier's face turns from fear to confusion as Paracelsus begins to boil the strange liquid and drops a stone into the beaker, sealing it tight afterward. Sitting down to meditate, Paracelsus tells the soldier, "Just you wait. In two weeks that rock is going to be another DIFFERENT kind of rock. An boy are you screwed THEN!"