Oops er, sorry. That was me just now. Forgot to log in. Heh.

And the soldier panics, get that scared look and runs away in terror!!!

waiting for 2 weeks??

I think two months would be more suitable....

Me too... That's what I thought.

That sorta kills his God Shipping...Or is he their god...hmmm...**thinks about stupid, unlikely theory**

why would the soldiers scared then?

Omakase, here's what I thought:
Killing is just killing.

I had assumed that...

...Scar's victims were merely being exploded. Though it may look the same, what you're talking about would require a wholly different transmutation technique. Though your way also makes sense...

...that's just what I thought.

Oh and you're right. Two months is more realistic.

Hmmm, yeah guess you guys are right. Unless Bones forgot to add the effects.

The Big Friendly Alchemist.

*chuckles* what would your specialty be?

as for the scar thing, at one episode didn't he say...


... of course I could be wrong on that.

~ais

Hmmm...

Still, it doesn't really make sense...

@_@ This is making my head spin.

I really don't want to be in the army. I think Pixel said it, but being in there and asked to do dirty stuff really isn't my thing. Yes to freedom.

But I would still go around and make a name for myself (without some high-ranking old man giving me the name).

It'd be: Shizen no Renkinjutsu-shi (Nature's Alchemist)

Why? Because I want to heal what humans have raped from Nature.

Sycia - It's just a hypothetical question. No one is actually asking you to join the military.

Kase - Here's how I understood the Philosopher's Stone thing, correct me if I missed something.
There's Philosopher's Stone, Incomplete P.Stone, Red Stone and Red Water. Close proximity to any of these will amplify an alchemical reaction by different degrees (P.Stone being the strongest, Water being the weakest).

Lengthy Explanation follows.

So that's what I know (or at least think I know). I hope this clears up Philosopher's Stone confusion - if you still have questions, PM me and I'll try and explain it more clearly, this was off topic and I didn't want to get too detailed in my analysis.

On topic:
How's this? A secret "negotiator" who is trained in advanced infiltration and stealth techniques. All the specialized equipment he needs to complete his missions are transmuted from materials he carries with him through customs in the form of ordinary travel supplies. He carries no identifying papers or insignia. If discovered, the Military disavows all knowledge of his existence. Augmenting his mastery of ninjutsu and renkinjutsu he can get in and out of anywhere before anyone knows anything, and leave no trace.
Working under the direct control of Fuhrer Mustang himself, invisible to records, he does not legally exist. He is the Ghost Alchemist.

...What? Don't look at me like that. No no no! It's not based on me! I just like the word "ghost" that's all!

Ooooohhhh.... a spy of some sort you mean... hehe, then he should be callled: James Bond no Renkinjushi!!!!! (Stupid I know...)

first, I like your explanation, it does indeed make sense. second, your description sounds cool! they would deffinately need someone like that, IMO. lol.

~ais

Agreed. No further questions your Honor.

Yay! I added something cool to the thread! And on topic no less. This may be a first for me.

(And another fanfiction idea in the pocket. Spiffo.)

Is "the Ghost Alchemist" or "Ninja no Renkinjutsushi" better? In your opinion?

You mean, which of the two sounds better or...?

Yeah, as a title for that character. Which is more aesthetically pleasing?
Ninja Alchemist or Ghost Alchemist?

Ninja no Renkinjutsushi -or- Yurei no Renkinjutsushi


(How about Solid no Renkinjutsushi, heh heh heh.)

The Monkey Alchemist!!! So as I could control monkeys (and people that act like monkeys??) ^__________^





The Big Friendly Alchemist? weird..... but good at the same time <.<

Ninja or Ghost........ I have to say Ghost. *__* To me it sounds more mysterious and "unreal" (<-- meant positively, but my vocab took a hike -__-), not to mention it's your penname. I like it better than Ninja Alchemist. But that's me.

I want to be FINDING SOMETHING WORTH DOING alchemist. I doubt there's such thing, but it would allow me to have access to anything worth doing, reading, veiwing, etc. Like uh, having access to a good book or manga or something. Most of the stuff I come across is crap. Either that, or I haven't been looking in the right places.
I have no life....

People with some remnant of the "Monkey Gene" left in their hereditary DNA source?

This is onlt gonna be funny to someone who's been keeping up with Spider-Man lately. (BTW I have this to say about that: Bah...humbug).

Something worth doing - pick a topic and research it. That's generally what I do when I'm bored. That or just watch all my AMVs again.

...I think I like Ghost better too. I should look up "poltergeist" in my J-E/E-J dictionary. Damn, doesn't have it. Anyone know this?

I really like the Big Friendly Alchemist btw.

Oh, this is late.

Odenetheus, the Soul Alchemist. I'd progress in the School of Soul Alchemy to further my own goals.

I shall go agaist you and become... Hikaru no Renkinjutshi!!! aka Queen no Hikaru and fight agaist your soul alchemy!!!! MUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!

Man... I think I have a constant state of Nitrogen Narcosis... (I just went scuba diving fo 29 metres...)

Sorry if it offends and anoys you but... I couldn't resist saying this!!!!

What about being possible? Alchemy is about elements... Such as...

Yuo guess what I would be.
Water is the best there is, it can be fluid, fix and gaz...
It's also one of the most important things on earth.

*makes a fountain of of thin air*

DarkWater Alchemist

Major Atma Bismarch, the Arsenal Hand Alchemist. Major because all State Alchemists seem to start with that rank in the military (Ed became one instantly upon completing the examination). Note that I meant to spell Bismarch with a -ch
at the end, not with a -ck. Many annoying people who, for whatever reason, think they're my grammatical superiors try and correct me on that.

...bastards

To just answer the topic: Air Alchemist!... oh jeez I have no sense at all. What kind of power would I have? Well....since air consists of many chemicals and I could change that and....but of course that's my second choice after Fire Alchemist. (Too bad I have to be original). Or then I'd like to be Necromancer Alchemist even though it's a bit creepy. I guess that way I get to deal with spirits and dead people. (And why would I want that..)

I think alchemical research concerning death and the dead would very similar to, perhaps even crossing paths with, human transumation and alchemy concerning life. Especially where the soul is involved. I'm sure it would be less illegal than human transmutation, but still probably frowned upon. Therefore I think that a necromancer alchemist would, by its very nature, be a secret government 'black' operation. But that's a good thing. Not only is it cool but...

...endless secret funding that you don't have to answer for! Woo!

I got one!!!!! The Dawn of the Dead Alchemist!!!! Usually known as Dawn because the name is lenghtly, and can turn peoople into zombies when he/she wishes to!!!! On second thoughts, I just stick to Quantium Alchemist... Alchemy at te sub-atomic level...

Oh yes... In ways necromancy is the same as human transmutation, especially with people coming back from the dead. Wouldn't have to do it so literally though... but yeah it does provide the opportunity to experiment privitely and without crossing the line to accomplish similar goals as in human transmutation.
Air Alchemist is just a cover(since the spirits surround me like"weird" air)... in reality I'd be the ( little crazy) Necromancer Alchemist working secretly for the government and state.... Ooohh....for example solving crimes(by contacting victims) or spying...or uniting people(for a short time)... or solving forgotten mysteries... the possibilities.... It's not very effective in war though, but there's always the air alchemy...

You would either need my assistance, seeing as how I would be the soul alchemist, or you would go against me, thus resulting in your demise, and your soul severed from your body.

You mean me? Nah, I'd be so good, but if you want to help it's okay. Spirits, souls... I suppose necromancy would be enough, although soul alchemy wouldn't hurt and nooooo....why would I go against anyone? I want to keep my soul, but there's no proof that you'd actually "win"...

Care to try?

Now now, children. We're all in the same military here.

Soul and spiritual alchemy...the transmutation of spiritual substance...transforming and binding etheric bodies...almost sounds like magic...

But nooooooooo. It's a SCIENCE, right? Heh.

uh.. never know science that teach u about how to bind someone and lost whole arm or other body parts... ><

I wonder if souls were created by sub-atomic matter? If they were then..... nevermind...

Hmm... yeah. I never considered the alchemy in the series as actual science. I always thought it was magic. Clapping hands or drawing transmutation circles doesn't exactly qualify as chemical interaction. I understood also that not everyone can use alchemy. It's seems to be a gift like magical powers.
Even magic requires energy, which is gathered(I guess) from the surroundings (nature, people). And dealing with souls and spirits is paranormal on its own.

Alchemy's a somewhat medieval science. It's chemistry with an extra, chemistry that doesn't work (dammit)...

Souls created of matter.... good point *wanders off with a some greek philosopher*

about the elements, what if there is some sort of upper-element, that is undefined and which makes all others...dust to dust, something like that (oh really, my english isn't good enough for stuff like this ...)

By the way, I don't think I would want to be a state alchemist, I 'd rather do good for my people, I don't need any money for whatever research I don't do. I'll just read the books I can get my hands on. If I get involved in war, I want it to be my decision only.

DarkWater

Names i like

Black Knight- Alchemist speciality, Total Stealth Invisibiltiy like Future Batman.

Iron Wall- Alchemist speciality, Impernetrable Body.

Divine Blade- Alchemist speciality Cuts and tears through the Hardest Metal

Illusionist Eye- Like Mido Ban or Hound from Transformers, making people seeing things that are not real or create holograms

Cool names... but Quantium Alchemist is still the best!!!! Sub atomic baby!!!!! So if I'm hungry, I could just re-arrange the protons and elctrons of a rock... TADA!!!! Bread!!!!!

cool ideas.. but I'll stick to Vine Alchemist..

i thought its spelt Quantum not Quantium? thats the only way to defeat this guy is to scramble is atoms with a molecular destabilizar

any body think of a good name for me?

what alchemist power do you like to be?

Well they mention several times in the show that alchemy is considered a science in their world. The classification of "science" and "magic" is a tricky thing when you start to really think about it. If it's widely accepted and totally explainable, we call it science. If it's either unsubstantiated, or if it works but we're not sure how, we tend to say it's magic.
In real life alchemy has much more to do with the transmutation of the soul, to achieve personal perfection. Kinda like most religions, you attempt to better yourself by meditating on certain principles. Symbolic rituals and glyphs help achieve a certain state of mind, if you know what they mean.

In Hagaren, Alchemy is a physical science involving the comprehension of matter and its components. The alchemist breaks down physical matter into its components and rearranges them to suit her needs. It's a Star Trek food replicator without the technology. The arrays channel energy by acting as symbolic signposts, the components are present, and an outside force is summoned via the array; the energy required to actually perform the transmutation, to move the components around. These techniques are documented and learnable. The reason some can do alchemy and some can't, at least as I took it anyway, is the same reason why I'm shitty at math, but my girlfriend can do computations in her head in a matter of seconds. The same reason some people draw pretty pictures, and others just give up. Sure all these things are learnable, but they just come easier to some than others.
As far as being magic or science? It fits both descriptions. Here's a hypothetical situation for you. If there were a magical practice, a short ritual and a specific engraving let's say, which could...I don't know...decompose food scraps? And if this practice became so well known that scientists studied its effects and documented all the various physical reasons why it worked and could explain what precisely was happening to the food scraps; it would move out of the realm of magic and into rational science. But the ritual and engraving would still be neccessary.
Here's a better example. Demonstrate a working telephone to someone who's never seen one, without explaining the science of how it works. It would be considered magic until you described the electrons vibrating throughout the wire (and even then it would sound a little sketchy).

And I've forgotten my point, which is probably a good thing as this was beginning to stretch on.

Uh...alchemy as illustrated in Hagaren is, to its practitioners, a science which exhibits traits that, would be described as magic (or at least extremely advanced science). See, that's another thing. People tend to consider telepathy and psychokinesis, science. Theoretical, weird, sketchy, paranormal - but still science. I see no reason to believe that alchemy should not be considered a science in Hagaren. I also, however, see no reason not to call it magic.

But then, I see no reason not to call most modern appliances "magic."

That was an educational post, Ghost.

I hope I understood all that, Ghost...
Well in terms of fiction anything could be science(well not anything...).
Yup, in the FMA world alchemy really is science, even though I still have a hard time to see the way they actually rearrange components. And what actually triggers the effect... outside force etc. The way it's done seems like magic to me, but yes I would be quite a few centuries behind when it comes to understanding technology. True, I don't see or understand a telephone or computer working and it still isn't magic to me... if there was magic I probably wouldn't believe it though anyway. There has to be a rational explanation for everything, so I'd consider magic as science which I don't understand. Fiction is fiction, so it's easy to just explain everything incomprehensible with magic. But actually even magic is science... in certain ways. For example when it has to be learnt and some people are just better at it than others.
But with souls... they are an abstract concept. There isn't proof that they actually exist(they might... but it's up to believing) It can't be a matter of rearranging components then..