It's not?

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Where is this thing leading to I'm getting confused?

Interesting topic that you have made Zombie....hmmm...this is really a sad topic.

Well I agree with some of the people on here.Suicied is only a temporary solution...but you lose your life.If you are that depressed you need help.If you killed yourself imagine what your loved ones and friends would go through.All the wondering like,"If I was there I could have stopped her."Or",Why?....why did you do this to yourself?"I would never want to do that to my family and friends.

I am friends with a girl a grade older than I am.She is now in 9th grade and I am in 8th grade.Last year when we were both in Junior High School together one of her other friends told me something.They told me about how she has tried to kill herself.....MANY times.About how her wrists are all scared up from her cutting herself.(she now wears a sweat band around her wrist so that no one can tell)And why?All because of a boyfriend and her abusive mother.But now she has gotten help.She is much better now.We are glad that she is not like that anymore...

Suicide is not a temporary solution, you're deciding to die, and being dead is quite permanent. I do believe that I don't have the right to self-impose myself in another person's life. Respect is how I approach suicide. So I won't judge suicide to be stupid or pointless because I don't have the right to decide for you; I will never truly understand the person going thorugh it so I don't have the right to shove my ideals in them.

I hated when people would tell me that there were things in life worth living for, to be brave or courageous to fight on. Living wasn't the problem, anyone can do that. It was living on with a worthwhile cause, to have a purpose and not be blinded by the bullshit that my race is entrenched in.

Suicide . . .. is about life, being in fact the sincerest form of criticism life gets.
(Wilfrid Sheed)

And keep in mind, what's even worse:
The sad thing in life is not always dying, it's what dies inside of us when we are alive.
(Anonymous)

wow suicide........never even thought about it.....but it is a stupid way to end your problems.....cause it only starts more problems with other people..........like for your best friends..... and your parents!!!!!!

true?

That's a great quote.

A couple people said that suicide is selfish, but I think people have every single right to be selfish when it comes to their own life. And honestly, who isn't selfish? Everyone's most important person is theirself, whether they want to admit it or not.
I think it's selfish to expect someone to live just because if they killed themselves it might make you feel bad.

And suicide is not always a permanent solution to a temporary problem. People who commit suicide aren't always the little goth kid in the corner. Way to stereotype, guys.
When people commit suicide it's probably not over some stupid little problem that would go away the next day. It's deeper then that, and if you've never been depressed and if you've never seriously thought about killing yourself then you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Suicide... I don't think it's worth it. If you're thinking about it, just get some help. It'll make a huge difference and you wouldn't be hurting yourself or your friends and family.

And what happens if you fail? They'll through you into a metal asylum! Then your life would even be more screwed up that before.

I would only kill myself if I had a terminal illness and couldn't take the pain and knew I was going to die anyway.

That's the only reason I think of suicide, well, that and romantic troubles.

I probably should stay away from love because I'm the kind of person who when I fall in love, I fall hard, and love very strongly, and my love is the most important thing to me. And if it isn't working out, I feel depressed beyond belief. I feel like nothing will ever make me happy if I can't be with this person.

Well I had that feeling again recently over this girl I fell in love with, and it can't work out because I am sure she isn't bi like me and stuff, so.....

And for a couple months I felt like "nothing's ever going to make me happy again. I could have all the money in the world, be famous, have a handsome man, and clothes and jewelry and a big house, and it won't make me happy because I don't have her. Short of Nakago marrying me, I'll never be happy again now."

So I was only hanging in there for two reasons, to keep being there for my friends and family, and to keep seeing Nakago because he does make me happy (and yes that may be weird to everyone, but I can't help it, he's special beyond measure).

But now that I haven't seen the girl around for a while, I'm doing better, and I hope I never see her again even though part of me wants to.

But I hadn't really thought of suicide over her, just felt so depressed. God, it was a horrible feeling.

But, if I'd killed myself over past loves, like I had fantasized once over this guy I thought I liked, well, I'd never have met my friends and seen Nakago, so I'm glad I didn't.

Suicide? Suicide is something no one should ever joke about that's for sure.

How I feel about it. Well, I think it is a personal choice. I don't think it's a cowards way out either. I think it takes a lot of courage to commit suicide. I think that if the person just can't take life anymore, if it is just too hard from them and they can't see any way out of it then I think it's better for them to end their suffering. But, at the same time I wish that they could find a way out of their pain and see that people out there do care about them and will help.

In fact, I had to deal with suicide this year. I'm a senoir in high school and so is one of my girl classmates. I have talked to her every now and then and we were even best friends when we were little. Three days into our senoir year she hung herself in her backyard. When I went to school the next day everyone was already talking about why she killed herself and spreading rumors. But there was a lot of people who were deeply saddened by what happened. It's really the only time I've seen my school kinda....come together and pull each other through. It's even harder when you have counsolers in your classes talking to you.

I don't see why people talk about why people commit suicide. Especially if they don't leave a note saying why they did it. My classmate didn't leave any note saying why. At school, people said it was because her boyfriend broke up with her, that she was pregnant, and that it was because of drugs. But none of them really now. Only my classmate knows why she did it and I don't think they should go around saying they know why she did it when they really don't. There was even a fist fight at school between one of my dead classmates friends and a girl. The girl was talking bad about my dead classmate and my dead classmate's friend beat the girl up. I don't think you should talk about someone like that. It's talk like that that makes people (especially girls) feel bad about themselves and feel worthless which is why some people commit suicide.

As Anime-Kat2002 said girls feel worthless and thats why to try 2 kill themselfs more than guys but they do kill themself as much as guys do

I know the one of the main reasons girls want to kill themselves is because there are the 'pretty','popular', and 'rich' girls that make fun of the girls that are not a fortunate as them in looks and money. Another reason girls and guys may kill themselves is because people make fun of them for who they are. Like their talents or interests. I get picked on a lot for not being pretty, rich, and the fact that I watch anime. At our school talent show there were girls making fun of people that were singing and dancing. I told them to shut up and they gave me evil glares. That's another reason I'm picked on, I get in people's faces and tell them to mind their own business. Basically, I don't take people giving me attitude and a smartmouth very well. I get right back in their faces. But there are just some people who can't do that. Who can't shake things off or stick up for themselves. And somehow those are the ones preps and people bashers find.

Suicide only hurts people. The ones who do it & the ones around them. I understand if you're like in the hospital & you're dying a slow painful death, but just doing because you didn't get the job you want or the girl you like doesn't like you back is retarded. Look for a new job or try again or look for a new girl, she might be more better suited for you than the 1st girl.

I’m like that. Because I stop fights I people say that I I’m interfering. What I say is YES IM AM AND WITH GOOD REASON TOU IDIOT. No one thinks what can happen when people fight. Damn morons. I tell people what I think as well and as im a nutcase what ever they say goes through one ear and straight out the other.
But I dont stand up myself but I do for my friends. Insane right?

Edit:
Teen suicide
Ok in the past 25 odd years suicide has decreased but for those who are at the age between 15 and 25, it has tripled.
Suicide is Considered 2 be the second or third cause of death.
Getting in trouble in school or with the law, fighting with parents, and other behavioural problems are the third risk factor for suicide.
Half of all children who have made one suicide attempt will make another
Because of depression some teens try drugs and or alcohol to relieve the depression, but they also cause depression.
Some young people who have never expressed a suicidal thought in their life, have taken their own lives when they got drunk to ease the pain of a disappointment or even a lost of someone or thing.
If you have a gun in your home, you are five times more likely to have a suicide in your house than homes without a gun. So logic would tell you 2 get rid of it but no people still keep guns in the house even after someone has attempted suicide. Some people who commit suicide do it as an impulse. And having a gun in the house makes it a little more lethal.
It is also important to limit the person's access to large amounts of medication, or other lethal means of committing suicide.
The majorities of suicide attempts are expressions of extreme distress and are not just looking 4 attention.
Some children who take their own lives are indeed the opposite of the rebellious teen.
Other factors of suicide include a family history of depression or substance abuse, and a recent traumatic event.
A traumatic event, which can seem minor, viewed from an adult perspective, is enough to push them over the edge into a severe depression and kill themselves
Any suicidal gesture, no matter how "harmless" it seems, demands immediate professional attention.
Take a risk and get involved. If you suspect suicidal thoughts or behaviour, ask s/he directly if s/he is considering suicide.
The severity of the problem should be judged from the teen's perception, not by adult standards.
If someone thinks something as a problem then it is a problem for him or her.
Never agree to keep the discussion of suicide with a teen a secret. Agree to give help and support in getting professional help.



Imminent danger signs for suicide include:
Talking about death and wanting to die.
Suicidal thoughts, plans, or fantasies.
Previous suicide attempts.
Friends who have attempted suicide.
Giving away personal possessions
Telling a friend about suicidal plans.
Injuring themselves.
Writing a note.

Parents and friends should not hesitate to get help and you should never leave a suicidal person alone.


Facts on Suicide
Suicide attempts are up to 20 times more frequent than completed suicides.
Women attempt suicide more than men do but, men commit suicide more than women do.
Although suicide rates have traditionally been highest among elderly males, rates among young people have been increasing to such an extent that they are now the group at highest risk in most countries
Mental disorders (particularly depression and substance abuse) are associated with more than 90% of all cases of suicide. However, suicide results from many complex sociol cultural factors and is more likely to occur during periods of socioeconomic, family and individual crisis
For the US
More people die from suicide than from homicide. In 1997, there were 1.5 times as many suicides as homicides.
Overall, suicide is the eighth leading cause of death for all Americans, and is the third leading cause of death for young people between the age of 15-24.
Males are four times more likely to die from suicide than are females. However, females are more likely to attempt suicide than are males.

i think suicide is for ppl who are week and think they cant heal from
what happind to them in the past life is a gift even for thos who think its not
if you dont like life you dont just give it back by killing yourself its not right
and even if you want it your loved ones dont they need you as much as you need yourself
when a person see there self they are only looking at an image an image they think is
them but its only an image not the true person they really are and all sould be greatful for what they have
just b/c your not rich or a boy or girl dose not like you that gives you no reason to kill yourself

now killing some one on the other hand
well ill leave it to some one to make a thread out of that

Is English your native language?

why do you ask
make this fast b/c im falling asleep at the keyboard

killing yourself is very hard 2 do. so I cant see how it makes you weak
Edit: sorry My fault

Nothing can make you week. Week is a period of 7 days.

damn kids.

Just remember, if you're in high school and feeling overwhelmed... Things ALWAYS get better in college.

I'm with Bacon on this one, Things eventually get better BELIEVE THAT! Bad Shite comes in clumps, then it gets better.

killing your self is a hard thing two do but still the fact that some one would end there
life over some thing so small is week we all have other ways of looking at suicide
some would see it as a weekness some would see it as a gift and help
others do it and thats just sick if you ask me i kinda see it as a viris some thing that spreds
from one person to the other like a sickness that you cant get rid of
leaveing behind the emtiy souls that live with the ones who half to feel like it is there
folt that the one they loved died its not that i dont beleave in suicide i am just as alone
as them i know how they feel i know what it is like haveing to get up in the morning knowing no one wants you around
and i have seen the way i die i will take it when that day comes but that is not
today and i am happy it is not today i still have alot to live for and i will live my life the way i want

I'm guessing you are expressing a positive outlook on life...though I can't be sure. It would help if you put in some punctuation.

I pretty much agree with those who meant to say that suicide is for the weak. It's so much harder to live.

Unless you have no way of going to college. Not all individuals are so privileged.

Im in college, no all countries have such great college like here in the NL. And as for suicide, im not going to talk about that for my own reasons.

if you had no friends..

..all of your family died and you don't know any of your distant relatives

you were sick and were due to die in a week

the pain is killing you

is it right to just kill yourself to end the pain? A period of 7 days, sure you can do a lot

but if you have no friends, family... I don't think there's much of a point of living...

Everyone here is confusing euthinasia with suicide. Suicide is the product of depression where a more than likely physicially healthy person kills themselves. Euthinasia is when a person is terminally ill and chooses to end their suffering.

I really like how everyone just ignores what myself and others have written about how people feel when they think of suicidal thoughts to turn around and say:

"Oh, life is soooo wonderful, everyone should be thankful for living, life is such a gift, la de la de da!"

I guess it's easier to hide your head in the sand than to stare reality in the face. But, humans are like that. Something I'm starting to accept as I get older even though I try to fight it and enlighten people.

while i probably will never commit suicide, if i were dying a painful death from terminal cancer or if all my limbs were unable to function i wish someone would show enough mercy to jsut shoot me in the head

Life is good, it may feel crappy.. but thing.. Do you want to do that to all your friends and siblings and family?
Immagine your mother/fathers feeling if they outlive their ofspring.. not nice

depends on it, will they reflect the same? or do they not care about you? that question is pretty confrontating for some of us.

yeah.. a lot of people don't care about their kids (abortion)

=/ the real world is just sick that way

I would have to say that women are much more emotional than men. We take things more out of proportion. Though I once thought about commiting suicide once. I don't remember why, but I guess it was just impulse from stress and I just wanted too escape.

A pathetic excuse...I now realize that.

Well I Was talking from my perspective, I am incredibly lucky in my situation..




Im shure most people have sometime in teir life.. Aslong as you dont ever carry that on

(sad serious face)........ I know what its like to attempt to take one's life, and it is a mistake that, although painful to talkabout, I will speak aboutit anyway.

It was my first year at a youth camp, and I'd never stayed at a camp like this ever before, much less the week of my birthday. I had recently been having problems; my parents had been divorced, my mother(who had custody of me and my sister) had gotten remarried and because of who she had married I was forced to move away from everything I had been raised on, and I had been having problems with girls continually rejecting me(I know thats kinda pathetic, but I was in seventh grade surrounded by people that give you a hard time because you didn't have a girlfriend), so I was really depressed. It all came to fulfillment when the one guy I had come to trust most in the place I had moved to backstabbed me and hooked up with the girl he knew I was going to ask out that had come to the camp with us. I fell apart, and I lost the will to live. I decided to commit suicide, and left a note on my friends pillow. before I could do it, he and another guy that had become a good friend to me came and tackled me to the ground. They helped me through my depression. The worst thing about it though, is that I made the suicide attempt on my birthday. Now every time my birthday comes around, I think bak on that day, and I thank god for the friends he has surrounded me with, because if it wasn't for them, I would not be here today.

Well I saw George Carlin and he did a really funny stand up routine about suicide but besides that I think that theres a difference in if you kill your self because your suffering from cancer or something than if you just kill your self because you don't think you have a reason to live but then again you could be in extreme emotional pain.

That was exactly how I was at the time.

thats so sad !ive had school problems last year and this year my parents are constantly yelling at eachother but now i have good friends (and a lot of them)at school ,and evryone thinks im a happy go lucky kid whos parents work a lot and im very optimistic and make people feel better,but my problems last year were that i was deppressed and no one wanted to be around me!i got over that mood by going to school were im happy and when im home i go on the internet or read manga locked up in my room by my self.thats how i escaped deppression,by not facing my problems

Well, my relief came from the one person I've found that I cannot live without. my soulmate

Of course people tend to look more on the side that suicide is the coward's way out of living life and all that, but some people live their lives out long, and waste it, whether it is because they choose to or they don't have the ability seize opportunities.

Our body's physical defense is to get away from or minimize whatever is giving us pain. What about mental? Some are just too unbearable, physical or mental. The physical is easier to avoid unless you are like imprisoned or something, in which case people want to die anyway. No one would complain if someone was held in a torture chamber and decided to end it before they could endure more abuse. But if someone can't stand a mental anguish, an unseen wound, they are much more easilly labeled a coward. If death is an enevitible, and is causing someone unbearable pain, is it really that bad to escape that pain... It is after all only natural to try and escape the pain.

I am not condoning suicide, I am just saying that it should be looked upon with more sympathy than disgust or disdain than it currently is by some people. I do think that some suicidees are cowards, though. The ones who really have nothing to complain about, but take what they have for granted and decide to kill themselves for whatever purpose. That is a coward suicide, but I can understand someone who was really just emotionally fatigued and dead inside. Of course, no one can determine what they felt and to what magnitude but the person themself.

Right. I heard that it's a common thing to at least think of suicide once in your life.

Suicide entered my mind too often when I was a kid. I didn't have a hard life, at all, but I was often bottled things up till I just broke down or just exaggerated things. Luckilly, I never acted on it once. I don't think I could take my own life now in this state of mind, unless something extremely tragic happened to me. Maybe not even then. I think I fear death more than I fear facing the pain of this world.

suicidal people shouldn't be pitied or looked at with disgust...

they need help...seriously...


i know what its like to want to die...i wanted to die so badly when i was an 8th grader...all 8th graders are pelted with heaps of stress (my prep school's school tradition)...plus i was kinda like the school's "ren stevens" so everyone was expecting me to be the valedictorian...by school tradition, the family of the valedictorian always provides the roast pig at the graduation banquet and my family was automatically assigned to provide that...so i was getting pressure from my parents, the teachers...and well, that pretty much sucked

as if that wasn't enough, by school tradition, was forced to enter the national spelling bee competition in washington d.c. (okay, so i'm a geek...shut up)...i hated the training...cramming a 30 pound dictionary of words (not exaggerating, i weighed the freaking book) in your head over the course of one year is stressful enough to make anybody want to die...

of course studying for the bee eventually took over my social life and i was left all alone doing nothing but spelling words all day...and hell, the lack of a normal teenage life was getting to me...then the entire school administration banned me from all my other extra-curricular activities (which was the only chance i had to talk to my friends outside the classroom) just so i could study for the damn national spelling bee...

math officially started hating me that year and my math grade plummetted to a D...needless to say, my parents kicked my ass for it...they expect more out of an honor student...which can really suck sometimes...

to top things off, i had a major eating disorder that year and i was caught in a love triangle with my best friend...things did not end happily there...


so when i started cutting myself and writing suicide notes, someone automatically told the school administration...which set off a chain of horrible events...

eventually with the help of my friends, i got cured...


and now my parents are forcing my brother into the spelling bee, hoping he'll get to the national bee in washington d.c. just like his older sister...i reallie hope he doesn't go through with it because that was part of what put me through hell

I did that.

They did that when I stoped. over a period of a year i did that. when I stoped they start all that crap.
lets just say I was not 2 happy about that

I pity those people who commit or tried suicide...Life's so beautiful but they want to end it...so pitiful...I pity them.... ZI hope I can meet them all and show them the beauty of life.

I know I'm opening up an old topic, but I was looking for something else and found this. I haven't read everything here and I imagine most of what's worth mentioning has been said. Of course, a message board like this is not the place to find consolation or great information about suicide, but I'll just add some thoughts I've always had and many here probably already know. Also it's a chance for me to "talk", which I seem to like to do sometimes

I am one who has had obsessive thoughts about suicide since childhood. The very thought of suicide seems to be something that almost everyone experiences, however, the frequency and severity of those thoughts differ from individual to individual and situation to situation.

Many who are unsympathetic to those who commit or attempt suicide are those who have never experienced obsessive suicidal ideation. It's a very painful thing. Since childhood I've felt it and was completely untreated until I went to graduate school (even then it's been a long road towards finding an ability to cope with these constant feelings). Typically it's related to depression, however, other factors can be involved. I personally have been treated for severe clinical depression, which has helped, but certainly not stopped my suicidal ideation completely. Almost daily I have some thought of physical escape and I'm 31 going on 32. For me, however, I can cope at this time, whereas there are many who can't cope.

I mention this not to really prove a point, but to simply appeal to empathize with these feelings. It's horrible torture to be constantly feeling that there's truly nothing left but suicide as an option. This is why I will never take suicide talk as idle. It always means something and will immediately follow with a statement from me to say, "go to a hospital immediately and seek treatment". It's true that sometimes suicide talk is "attention seeking" and perhaps not "sincere", however, to not address it will lead that person further onto the path toward sincere suicide talk.

So, when you are confronted with suicidal talk, don't just stand there, but start the process toward treatment. Get them to a hospital or tell influential people in their lives. To just leave it or assist in their pain through inaction is unethical and cowardly. Don't be afraid of suicidal talk.

I've wanted to commit suicide, wanted to cut, wanted to run away and jump off a bridge, but i didn't. i know people who attempted suicide, i have friends who cut, and one who jumped out of the 3rd floor of a building. the only thing i had to say was "Wait, untill after college. after you left those who seriously hurt you. Cause things are going to get better after where you are now, but if things don't change and if you are in even worse shape then go ahead and kill yourself."


i completely agree. the worst thing of all, is being alone and feeling like there is no one out there who can hear you call for help.

So much suicide in this world its just kinda stupid to just let all go to where you were that day.Killing yourself isent going to get you from the pain anyways most of the time and i got to say it "you go to hell" and that does not sound like a very peacefull place to get away from all to escape sorrow.

It's really just human Selfisness...you see the person who attempts this...Doesn't think about the consequences involved... or the consequences they caused...they don't stop to think what'll happen to others when their life is taken from them...can you imagine the suffering that person causes when they take their own life and that their families would have to suffer because of it...

I would know...I felt selfish once...I wasn't always a kind person...

I said some horrible things to someone I knew...I almost came to killing myself as well...but for some reason I didn't...I wanted to keep trying...try and change things to put them right...

Sometimes in order to understand something...we only need to figure it out on our own...and when we find the answer...

That's when we begin to understand...

I honestly think suicide is just a stupid waste of potential. Whatever the potential is for is gonna vary from person, but it's not exactly efficient to just throw it all away.

I've...Thought about suicide before...Everyone 'hated' me, and I had practically no friends...But I got over it. I was too much of a wimp to pick up a knife and cut mself, or, any of that crap.


So, I thought about it, but didn't do anything. I'm glad I didn't. I think more nowadays, and things are still bad, but I've got a best friend and a whole lot others.

How many of you have looked it up and know what may course people 2 want 2 commit suicide?

Well Zombie there are really many cuases of people commiting sucide...I'll list them

- Finacel problems
-because too many people gang up on one person
-Family problems
-Lost the will to go on
-They might have lost someone and want to die
-An acident they have regretted
-School problems
-Lost their jobs and are now currently unemployed with nothing else to do
-Their past could cause them to commit sucide too
-Depression
-They've lost everything they have and don't know what to live for

All these are part of many other suggestions why people commit sucide without thinking of the consequences that they will cause, It's really what people say somethimes...

'Only the Strong Survive' But we're not really like animals...Some of us aren't even strong...

'If life has no purpose to them...then that could mean that their dead already...'