Since Nit picking happens to be my specialty, Buddi chan, *nitpicks*
So homunculi are made from alchemy right? And Hohenheim explains to Ed in episode 50 that the lives of those who've died on our side of the gate are the energy that is used in their alchemy. Those human's lives, their souls, pass through the gate. So my theory is that the homunculi don't have a 'soul' per se, but instead a collection of the energy from the human's souls that fuels their body like a soul.
That actually makes sense since I've been wondering what, other then the Alchemy we fuel in their world. If that is the case then where do their memories come from? I know Al's are all his own, and his soul holds onto them, so if the energy from humans here fuels the Hommucli, would that energy store the memories that they create? They have those of the dead person right? How is that possible? It doesn't seem to me that a person can implant the memories. I know that Ed showed Al that he didn't implant his memories, so do the Hommucli then have some rements of the soul of the dead person? Sloth said to Ed that if the memories kept coming she would learn to love them, and she has to prove that she's not their mother becuase the memories were making her love them.
Honestly, I think a lot of the homunculi's problems arn't because they're souless beings, but more because they're told they're souless beings. As we saw with Sloth, the homunculi are a mess when they're first created. Dante took them in and 'fixed them up,' for a lack of a better term. Think about it. If someone helps you out when you have no hope, that person's gonna have a big affect on you, no? Hohenheim even says that they're innocent when they're first created; it's only after they injest the red stones that they lose it. The red stones corrupt them, which I will also say is partly because they know they're human lives. Wouldn't it freak you out to be eating something like that? (I hope so...)
Agreed. That's one of the reasons why I find them fasinating is becuase it's clear that there's more going on with them then what the Characters (Ed, Al, their dad or Dante) realize. You're right on the freaking out part, because Wrath started to cry while he was eating the stones. Envy says he was raised on them. But I'm just wondering, suppose Dante didn't find her, Sloth. Could she have pulled herself together? Becuase she was dragging heself and that at least shows that there was something going on there. That she was pulling herself together in some way. Other wise how could she move out of the house? Also agreed that there's probably a lot of trama to them.
One thing I keep thinking about with the homuculis is that they start off almost like babies, and the humans that created them treat them as older beings. They might have the memories but it takes more then that to make them a whole person. You wouldn't just leave a baby out on it's own after being born, I think it's the same with the homunculis. They're like babies or children when they are born and need someone to take care of them. Which is a good segway into MonsterEnvy's
Well, you can't look too deeply into alchemy. Both the manga and the anime differ greatly from the accepted methods of alchemy in the 'real world,' but the anime differs even more than the manga. As for the homunculi- they would probably die without red stone after a period of time. They might be able to live as long as ten years or so, but they,re still living on red stone. It's the energy they got from the body bits that were left in the gate by their creators. That's why they still needed to kill the homunculi once again after they made them throw up the stones. Wrath also had extra energy and perhaps more of an ability to gain energy from normal sustenance than most homunculi because not only was he transmuted from his original body, he also had Ed's arm and leg.
Wrath had not taken red stones in two years. We also know that he's been living on that island for several years prior to the others finding him. If it's the energy from bits of the person, what about things like Al's memories and such? As I recall, Greed was trapped in the array for 130 years. Apparently though it doesn't have to be the creator that does the killing. Gluttony ate food, Lust did too, and Envy drank coffee. Wouldn't you think they were gaining energy more off that? That's another thing that has me curious, could a homunculi form itself properly with just natural food? Ignoring Wrath's extra arm and leg, he was able to keep his form after they wer gone, and he did loose all his stones I think in the anime. Or did I miss something there?
@Sin of Envy
Because Al has a soul, and homunculi don't. They don't have emotions such as love or care, they're like dolls who feel and do however their Master desire.
Wrath loved his mother, and Sloth. Ed said when Sloth died that Wrath was crying for him as well because he couldn't.
Sloth, before she died she told Ed and Al to look after one another. Also she stated that in time, becuase of the memories, she would learn to love the boys as her own children.
Gluttony, was possesive of Lust. He was worried about her most of the time.
Envy as much as he would deny it, there were points that he did actually show he cared. Best example is when he looses it and got scared of the Gate itself. If he didn't care about things, why is he getting so pissed off about Hohenheim? Or for that matter, if he was a cruel as were told, why just shoot Hughs once? Why not show that cruelty and shoot him a few more?
Greed, his men, he told them to leave and stay safe.
Lust, that one episode, not to mention with scar, later with Ed and even to a point with Wrath, Gluttony, and Even Envy.
Pride, I think in some way he did care about his son. Even if he did kill him, there was something I think a kin to a struggle in him before he actually killed the boy.
I'm sure there are other moments that they did show they could care and love. (side note, I did forget about what Envy said in that Episode. Thanks for the reminder.)
Thankyou for the spelling correction. I'll try to keep that in mind. *blush*