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RolfKaese
Official Summary of the Square-Enix Page:

ロゼの赤ん坊から出現した門に呑み込まれたエドは、門の向こう側の世界へと飛ばされる。そこは20世紀初頭のロンドンだった。混乱の中、街を襲うツェッペリンから逃げるエド。その頃ダンテはグラトニーにアルを食べさせ、、完全な賢者の石を得ようとしていた。アルに襲いかかっていくグラトニー。そして門の向こう側の世界で
は……。

Translation:

From Rose's baby appear the Gate which swallows Ed who flys towards the world on the other side of the Gate. He appears in the early 20th century London. In the middle of chaos, Ed escapes from the Zeppelins' assault on the streets. About the same time, Dante invites Gluttony to eat Al to obtain the complete Philosopher's Stone. Al suffers the assault of Gluttony. However in the world on the other side of the Gate......

Thx to a guest which name I forgot to look up ^^U

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Queen of the dammed
Woa. Look how badly Fullmetal Archer's been beaten up.... When someone gets the raws tomorrow could you do a summary for Me?

Thanx in Advance smile.gif
Hym
why the hell does gluttony need to eat al to complete the philosopher's stone?
Or maybe she plans to add the red stones within gluttony with al ... Hu poor gluttony é_è
RolfKaese
you misread hym. he has to eat Al-kun to OBTAIN the complete p.stone.
Hym
ah ^^actually i thought i understood that Dante plans to make gluttony eat al and then sacrifice gluttony to synthetise a normal p.stone.
RolfKaese
nah ^^

for all: she wants gluttony to eat al, because if he eats al, the p.stone will be inside gluttony (since al is the p.stone). then dante can control/use gluttony for her purpose, since he will be the new p.stone ...
Chibi Viki
hehehe... fullmetal archer on the move... but what will happen to roy and the fuhrer? OMG after this sat, only 1 ep left!
Omakase Shimasu
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It might be just me, but it looks like somebody's using eye-liner... <__< Oh God, he reminds me of a mix between Roy, Hawkeye and Ed. O_O Somebody kill me now. I do not like the implications. At all.

T_T Archer...
Guest
Al can't die... Al can't diiiiie... *Cries on some random persons shoulder.*
Chibi Viki
Roy+Hawkeye+Ed? ahehehe, i can see what you mean, kase... i guess it would be logical that riza's genes are more dominant than roy's... nyahahahaha!!!

anyway, strangely enough, the return of the tringham brothers didn't annoy me as much as lyra's, roze's and archer's return. hehehe, robo-fullmetal-archer!! there goes his lovelife... if he even had one to begin with...
Omakase Shimasu
QUOTE(Chibi Viki @ Sep 24 2004, 05:38 PM)
Roy+Hawkeye+Ed? ahehehe, i can see what you mean, kase... i guess it would be logical that riza's genes are more dominant than roy's... nyahahahaha!!!

O_O ....well, he does look androgynous... tongue.gif But still the mental image~ Roy and Riza producing Ed-baby. O_O

laugh.gif I agree with you about the returns of these characters. And Archer didn't have a lovelife IMO, since... just look at him! The way he behaves, the way he looks... Either he's asexual or... he's asexual. (I really love him, though. biggrin.gif That guy needs love)
Aqua_Alchemist
bloody archer, whoever thought of this, had been watching too much bloody terminator. I mean what the hell, a bloody cyborg in FMA, it ruins the bloody atmosphere *rant over*

*second rant* Why the hell has the story moved to WW2 now (incidentally I'm studying the causes of WW2 in history class), again it seems stupid. but I guess all will be explained. Think any other characters will be in 20th century as well. Maybe this could be a return of Hughes!! (I'd punch in my CRT if that happened). All I hope is that they don't **** up the last few episodes. (Man 'm too stressed out atm, ahh well I've put Radiohead on and that should cheer me up).
Omakase Shimasu
laugh.gif I dunno, he looks cool. Though I abhor the way they've added in the "Terminator" theme thing. <__<
Chibi Viki
hahahaha!!! next thing you know, archer will be saying, "Ah'l Be BHACK!" ("I'll be back" in arnold/austrian accent).
Omakase Shimasu
Next thing you know Arnold will be the voice actor of Archer in the dubbed version. <__<
Roy
And then he'll run for Fuhrer and win the election! </Reallylamejoke>

Also, Al is so screwed.
wolfi1412
QUOTE(Omakase Shimasu @ Sep 24 2004, 06:29 PM)
Next thing you know Arnold will be the voice actor of Archer in the dubbed version. <__<

Ha ha!!!! when I first saw Archer like that, I say "Boy, it looks like the Terminator!" I guess it's kinda funny! and then Arnold will be elected as a governor!
Aqua_Alchemist
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And then he'll run for Fuhrer and win the election! </Reallylamejoke>


Lol, who are the voice actors for FMA in English anyway?
Omakase Shimasu
bryantq had a few listed on the main site. biggrin.gif Chris Sabat's got Armstrong if I'm not mistaken. Or was that Scar?
TheVileOne
Current English voice cast for FMA, courtesy of Anime News Network:


Aaron Dismuke as Alphonse Elric


Vic Mignogna as Edward Elric


Caitlin Glass as Winry Rockbell


Chris Sabat as Alex Louis Armstrong


Travis Willingham as Roy Mustang
Omakase Shimasu
Oh, it was Armstrong afterall. Man, I don't know any of these except for Vic and Chris. Anyone know if they're good for their designated roles?
BeyondTheGrave
wow i dont even know any of those guys. can anyone help me out? anyways i now that ed went to the other side of the gate, is that his real dad or some other personality of him?
Aqua_Alchemist
Well there have been theories......It could be that you lose your memory after a while of going through the gate, or that the FMA world isn't real (I hope that isn't the case), but I guess we'll have to wait and see tongue.gif Only 3-4 days left until we get Episode 50 subbed, and that will probably have a lot of revelations, as I'm betting 51 will have some big set piece fight or twist like most last episodes.
Omakase Shimasu
Twilight Zone. @__@
odoridan
About Gluttony eating Al for the stone. Doesn't that just seem like the dumbest idea for Dante? Gluttony is already a borderline dissenter now. Although I assume Dante will tell Gluttony that she will revive Lust with the stone to make him obey. But still, give Gluttony all that power? Can he use that power himself without alchemy? We've seen people use the faux red stones without alchemy....

It's really repetitve to be bashing the Archer thing over and over. I think it's unanimous that him coming back was a bad idea and poorly designed. He looks stupid, especially with the gun in his mouth. Please die Archer so we don't have to look at you in the movie.


My sarcastic comment of the day:
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I mean what the hell, a bloody cyborg in FMA, it ruins the bloody atmosphere

[sarcasm]Oh no, not cyborgs! Wait a minute... then what the hell do you call Ed? Ed is a cyborg! And Al? He's almost a freakin' robot! Shame on them for making Archer the cyborg.[/sarcasm]
Aqua_Alchemist
Oh crap, what a dumbass I am, okay I'll make a comeback. A STUPID cyborg in FMA, who TALKS like a robot. Okay? tongue.gif tongue.gif
Virtue
Come on, we knew that Archer was gonna come back...it was either he gets automail or he was a Chimera. Would you rather have Fullmetal Archer or Werewolf Archer?

As for the gluttony thing how can he eat the stone and retain it in his stomach. Isn't the idea behind his power that he consumes things and they decompose because of his saliva? So wouldn't the stone be destroyed? Stupid, STUPID Dante...you should die...like now...your ruining FMA.....
hakai-kun
i didn't like the bring archer back as that cyborg thing at all. it doesn't fit the setting. i mean, automail limbs are one thing. but that just looks all too futuristic to match the hagaren realm at all. could just be me though -shrugs-

yeah, i kinda liked the trigham brothers and their return in the series was actually to my liking, rather then annoyance. tongue.gif

i don't want al to die! NO~~ Aru can't die!! sad.gif
MaesHughes33
My favorite theory is....Ed isn't PHYSICALLY on the other side of the gate, he's reliviing a memory. And guess who's memory it is....

Envy.

Envy was Hohenheim's son right?? Well, Hohenheim made the first homunculus 400 years ago, and i guess u could assume WWII is 400 years before Ed and Al's time.


SO Ed is reliving Envy's old life with Hohenheim and maybe how he dies.... I like that theory a lot lol
Vael
Uhm... First off, people. They didn't use Zeppelins in world war II.

And... September 2nd, 1916 happens to be during World War I.

Therefore, this is a battle that took place in World War I. =D

Anyway, yeah, I agree that this is Envy's past life.
Envious...
lol, yes I was just about to shoot out the door yelling, "it's WWI, not II, people, STUDY HISTORY!!"

Thanks for correcting it for me.

If this new Ed is actually Envy, then something REALLY strange must have happened to change WW I to the FMA world that we know now.

When I heard about the plot twist in 49, I was a bit skeptical, but after watching it, am interested in how they will wrap all this up in 2 more eps.

But as for robo-Archer? rolleyes.gif

Never was a good idea, he looks SOOO lame! Especially when he has that ball turret popping out of his mouth, how does he eat? And what about his love life? blink.gif
The_Lazy_Alchemist
I guess I'm really slow but when did they say Envy was Hohenheim's son?

It's definitely WWI. WWII is a bit later. Quite a bit later, actually. Been doing research. I wonder if Hohenheim will die...And what is Armstrong doing? I thought he was supposed to lead a rebellion against whatever personel is left in Central. Or at least create a load of distractions.

Is it just me, or is Roy suicidal? Knowing Pride is a homonculus and yet going on ahead anyway? Is revenge for Hughes getting to his head? Either he's going to die or something else bad happens to him or Hawkeye. Or maybe Roy actually has a plan instead of charging head on. Kidnap Selim? Would he really try that?

And then theres Al lying on an array...And then the revelation that Gluttony is supposed to eat Al.

Just ten or so more hours to wait before we find out all this...
RolfKaese
400 years before fma's timeline? that means fma's time is 2300? lol now thats a weird idea XP

I suggest they/Al will use the p.stone to get Ed back to the "real" world..
Senefen
Lets clear this up now.
WW1 - Europe 1914 - 1918 from what I remember fought almost entirely in Europe by Europians and their allies/current and ex-colonies (eg Aus, NZ.)
WW2 - Europe and the Pacific - 1939-1945 fought by Europe, America, Australia, NZ, Russia, Japan and several others. Ended in Europe when the Russians and British forced Germany to surrender, later when Hiroshima and Nagasaki were bombed Japan surrendered.

FMA is almost certainly set in mainland Europe, for a start a lot of the names are of German or English origin or similar, plus the map shows no oceans. Also Ed going back to 20th century London. Though I don't think it's set in England, and the land (eg mountains) doesnt match up.
RolfKaese
preview for episode 51:

http://mbs.jp/hagaren/bb/51ed.asx

^^ not that i didnt expected something like that wink.gif
Queen of the dammed
Why do I only see a picture of Ed and fullmetal Archer??
RolfKaese
dunno.

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too bad, Ed dies.
BlueRakuen
wait... are those from 50 or 51?!?! o__0
RolfKaese
50.00
Kaitou-dark
the transformations are envy yeah? who the hell is the middle guy wif the weird hair. or is it just messed up?
Netabare
QUOTE(RolfKaese @ Sep 25 2004, 12:45 PM)
dunno.

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too bad, Ed dies.

rough conclusion of important plots in ep.50

1)the energy for alchemy is cased from "dead lives of people in our world".
with this point of view, there is no equivelant exchange.
it needs more energy from other side of the gate.the enegies are lost lives of our world.

2)both world is different,(mainly with a direction of science) but have almost similer structure, so there is similer people in both side.
(there might be "Al"-like one somewhere)

3)"Ed"-like guy in London is not seemed a son of Hohenheim.it's still unclear thier relation.

4)Hohenheim said "Everyone have a gate in thier mind, by using this, one can go to the other side of the gate."

5)"Ed"-like guy might be dead, because zeppelin fired and falled down to him.
(at least injured. but i think he should be alive for the next epsode. it's still unclear)

6)(with someone's life?unknown but somehow ) Ed can go back from the gate to his original world.

7)Wrath was taken his (Ed's) arm and leg by the gate.He can't stand up any more.

8)Envy was homunculi of a son of Hohenheim and Dante.he died in an accident.
Hohenheim tried to transmute him but it faild. His face is simler with Hohenheim.

9)Envy thought that Hohenheim wasted him. that's why Envy hate Hohenheim.

10)at last. Envy killed Edward.

Al didn't nothing. Rose might be changed her mind.
Roy attacked Fuhrar, but thier fighting is still continue.

I will comment about some of RolfKaese's clip.

uppercenter)Envy transformed to Ed's acquaintance, such as Hughes, Trisia..
,to lose Ed's fighting spilit.
upperright) also transformation of Envy
lowercenter) Envy's true face. looks like young Hohenheim.
lowerright)finally Envy killed Edward.
Hym
well i guess that the guy with hair messed up is probably the real appearence of envy : blond guy that looks like a little to hohenheim.
The first time i watched i thought that sloth wasn't dead oO but if u look to the clothes u can see that they are her's.
Omakase Shimasu
QUOTE(RolfKaese @ Sep 25 2004, 12:45 PM)
too bad, Ed dies.

Thanks for showing such great concern and compassion. rolleyes.gif

Maybe it's just me, but... that guy with the blonde hair looks disturbingly like Hohenheim. O_O And it's safe to say that I don't like this at all. What in the freck are they doing?!?

EDIT: sorry, Hym didn't see yur post there. biggrin.gif;; Envy?!

...now that I've taken a closer look at those images, it looks like Sloth is transforming into that blonde guy. O_oThat is, if you connect the pictures like that.
RolfKaese
what an episode... NONONONONO FMA cant end next week !!!!!! >_____<;;;;;;;;;

anyway, a summary from what ive seen and guessed:

-behind the gate, ed dies because a zeppelin crushes into him.
-dante changes the behaviour of gluttony, he now is a freaking ape-like homunculus... u can compare him to EVA-01 Berserk Mode when he absorbed shinji-kun into his core...
-Dante opens the gate, wrath and envy standing before it.
-gate takes wrath /eds arm and leg behind the gate.
- envy sees edward coming from the other side of the gate , calling him (the first time i guess) "Edo".
- Fighting between Envy - Ed , envy changes form into Marcoh, Trisha, Hughes, Roy (that was too funny XD before roy, ed punched envy into his face which was first envy, then marcoh,hughes, even with the face of trisha ed hit him... but then roy. Ed smiling, saying something like that's what he was wished for so long and gives envy-roy a hard hit into the face XD
but then the face becomes like hohenheim(young), and Ed stops calling envy "hohenheim...".
then story about envy being son of dantexhohenheim, see posts above for that.
then Envy stabs Ed... large amount of blood coming out of him... Al is extremely shocked, he only says "nii-san..." and Roze's Eyes change back to normal called Ed's name like back in episode 41/42. the episode fades out with a zoom into ed's eye, which fades to black... like they always do in anime when a chara dies ^^U

so ed's supposed to be dead now... ;_;

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Netabare
Actually Envy tranformed to ...

Dr. Marcoh, Hughes, Trisha, and Roy.

to fight against Edward who just returned from the other side of the gate.
Envy want to disturb Ed's mind with forms of his friends/mother.
this is similer way when Envy killed Hughes.

But when Envy transformed to Roy's face,
Edward said "This face is the easiest one to beat !"

And then he said "show me your true face!"

so Envy transformed to his true face.
Omakase Shimasu
P. stone...
Netabare
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-behind the gate, ed dies because a zeppelin crushes into him.


I think we could keep a hope that he could be saved somehow,

for example, Hohenheim, in London, will save "Ed-like" guy
so soul of Edward can go to the other side of the gate again...

from this reason, I guess "Ed -in London" didn't die.
Queen of the dammed
*sobs*Have Hope people.. HAVE HOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * Cries on random person's shoulder*NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EDO-KUN CAN'T DIE!!!!!!!!!!! HE'S IN THE MOVIE!!!!!!!!! *Cries even more so that all the tissues in the house are used up*
Omakase Shimasu
biggrin.gif I have hope. I just want to know how in blazes they're going to pull this off.
flyingwind
odd... just very odd... I hope the anime ends well because the manga sure does have it beat at the moment
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