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angelstar2408
QUOTE (Szaer @ May 25 2009, 08:54 AM) *
I just find it a bit retarded since the anime AND manga both try and make it as obvious as possible that Roy has a thing for Hawkeye and Ed has a thing for Winry. :T

I guess yaoiers just reeeaaaally need pairs with every series. ;D



That's sooooooo true!!!

I think...yaoiers (sorry for using your word tongue.gif) just make these pairings up for fun.... I think it's disturbing.... even...yuriers.... tongue.gif

No offense to yaoi and yuri fans..... But I think it isn't a very nice scenery seeing Roy and Ed...err..... uhm.....together.... wink.gif
Forsaken Love
i despise this pariing with the burning intensisty of a 1000 desert suns XDit is so sick and twisted, i ship edwin and royai
kkg22104
Hate it. Simply hate it. It ruins both EdxWin and Royai, and the age difference bothers me a lot too.
Tombow
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QUOTE (Jakinickster @ Jul 3 2009, 07:31 AM) *
This is a response to the OP (original poster) and/or anyone who seems to be asking themselves why anyone would like the pairing RoyxEd.


OK, first off- do you see very many topics asking why you guys like hetero pairings? I mean, COME ON, get over it. There are going to be people who like different things, may it be hetero pairings, gay pairings or what ever. I don't know what you're so confused about. OK, it isn't attractive to you, whatsoever- you've made this quite obvious. What I don't get is people making hate topics against people or what they like. Why can't you just leave people to like their own thing? Unless it's shoved in your face 24/7- BACK OFF. Hey, even then, just ignore it and go read what you like. It's not like you have to read RoyxEd, so stop complaining for no reason. You don't get why we like RoyxEd, and we don't understand why you like RoyxRiza or any of those hetero pairings.


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Edit: BTW, to everyone complaining that Roy and Ed aren't even a canon and their relationship isn't even slightly plausible-

do you understand what fan fiction means?

it's a fictional story.

@Jakinickster - Welcome to our board! Actually, this thread is specifically for anti-EdXRoy people where they can express their opinions WITHOUT getting interrupted by EdxRoy fans, and hence, in a way, you are the one in need of "backing off." biggrin.gif As such, I moved your post to thread FOR RoyxEd fans, so that you can enjoy discussions RoyxEd shipping among RoyxEd shippers there, as that one is also a "safe-haven" thread, but FOR EdxRoy shippers so that you can enjoy posting about RoyxEd shipping WITHOUT being constantly interrupted by anti-RoyxEd people on that thread. Although, I would highly discourage "bashing" of anit-RoyxEd fans there, as I discourage posters here to bash RoyxEd shippers, and post only about why they don't like it, and not the bashing of the "shippers." smile.gif

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Full-Fledged Alchemist
Personally, I don't like yaoi, so EdxRoy kills me inside...same with EdxEnvy or EdxAl....

I know so many people like it, but I don't see why, I mean, what could be exciting about reading about butt smex...I don't know, I like straight pairings...I love real gay people though, especially guys, they're amazing and fun to hang out with...

Maybe because I don't like the idea of a guy I like being gay, I mean, if they're gay, they're not going to be interested in fan girls...so...yeah...

I also like EdxWin, but that's a different issue entirely, even though I know a bunch of people hate Winry...I'm just gonna drop it now though before I'm attacked ^^
Hagaren_4ever
It's just not there. There is no romance between them in the story! So many people don't want to just step back and except the fact that the following pairings are the ONLY ones that have been hinted at AT ALL in the anime, manga, novels or video games.
EdxWinry
EdxRose
EdxArmony
EdxSophie? I don't know, I didn't play that game... confused.gif
EdxNoa
EdxMei (For a short amount of time)
RoyxRiza
RoyxVenessa? I don't know, that girl at the bar?

They have been paired with all the people but NEVER with each other. No evidence whatsoever.
You know another pairing that drives me nuts?
RoyxMaes
rzerox21xx
QUOTE (Full-Fledged Alchemist @ Jul 10 2009, 11:40 AM) *
lol, exactly! I love the guy Winry works for, he's hilarious! XD I'm just glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like yaoi...I love cannon pairings and I'm proud of it! ^^

I'm with you on canon pairings like Dragonball's Vegeta and Bulma, Rurouni Kenshin's Kenshin and Kaoru, Buso Renkin = Kazuki and Tokiko.

Bleach is a mess with comes to shipping, especially with Ichigo Rukia or Ichigo and Orihime. I was happy with Rave Master how the main character Haru kissed Ellie in the end and there's a epilogue where you see their son. Kinda hoping Arkawa can make a similar ending.

I would love to see Ed and Roy as fathers and having a rivary on who sons is better and Winry and Riza looking in embarrassment.



QUOTE (rzerox21xx @ Jul 10 2009, 11:54 AM) *
I would love to see Ed and Roy as fathers and having a rivary on who sons is better and Winry and Riza looking in embarrassment.

Now that's a relationship I can see Ed and Roy having. Knowing how prideful both are, they will root for their own kid.

Movie Ed had grandkids and they must of came from somewhere so yeah, he must it met real world winry and married her and Al. if you saw the kids ova, little winy said Al Ojisan which is uncle so I think its a safe bet which kid she's with and the little Al lookalike must be Al's kid who was visiting or something. Well real world Ed did get killed in the final episodes when Ed took over his body and got kill in the WW1 bombings.
Tombow
QUOTE (rzerox21xx @ Jul 10 2009, 03:03 PM) *
Movie Ed had grandkids and they must of came from somewhere so yeah, he must it met real world winry and married her and Al. if you saw the kids ova, little winy said Al Ojisan which is uncle so I think its a safe bet which kid she's with and the little Al lookalike must be Al's kid who was visiting or something. Well real world Ed did get killed in the final episodes when Ed took over his body and got kill in the WW1 bombings.

@rzerox21xx - No. FMA "Children" OVA was "What If" story, and NOT the part of real storyline, and NEVER meant to be taken as a canon storyline... so said Mr. Mizushima in his interview on GanGan magazine that came out around the time Children OVA was released, who was the director of that OVA and who was also the director of FMA COS movie and the director of the first FMA anime series. smile.gif

BTW, if I remember correctly, in that OVA, a little Winry look-alike girl called Al "Ojii chan" with TWO "i"s, and not ONE "i" ... the difference is that Ojiichan means Grandpa, and that's what the little girl called Al, as well as Ed-like figure. smile.gif
rzerox21xx
QUOTE (Tombow @ Jul 10 2009, 01:19 PM) *
QUOTE (rzerox21xx @ Jul 10 2009, 03:03 PM) *
Movie Ed had grandkids and they must of came from somewhere so yeah, he must it met real world winry and married her and Al. if you saw the kids ova, little winy said Al Ojisan which is uncle so I think its a safe bet which kid she's with and the little Al lookalike must be Al's kid who was visiting or something. Well real world Ed did get killed in the final episodes when Ed took over his body and got kill in the WW1 bombings.

@rzerox21xx - No. FMA "Children" OVA was "What If" story, and NOT the part of real storyline, and NEVER meant to be taken as a canon storyline... so said Mr. Mizushima in his interview on GanGan magazine that came out around the time Children OVA was released, who was the director of that OVA and who was also the director of FMA COS movie and the director of the first FMA anime series. smile.gif

BTW, if I remember correctly, in that OVA, a little Winry look-alike girl called Al "Ojii chan" with TWO "i"s, and not ONE "i" ... the difference is that Ojiichan means Grandpa, and that's what the little girl called Al, as well as Ed-like figure. smile.gif



Oh really? I didn't know about that. Thanks Tombow, I would hope that Ed in the movie would meet real world's Winry and maybe Al would go to China and meet real world Mei, ahhahahaha. I could see Real world Winry working on old automobiles in America during Fords heyday around that time and having difficulty snice the women's rights movement started in that time period, correct me if I'm wrong.
Tombow
OT: ^ @rzerox21xx - You're welcome, and I like that! I bet Winry would make an awesome auto mechanic!! ^^

And, going back on-topic:
I don't "hate" RoyxEd shipping, but since I see more of EdxWin moments and Royai moments (especially in manga) and RoyxEd is just not there.. XD So yeah, it just doesn't fancy me. XD
zagu
I think "hate" is a bit too much for me, and it goes to show how it gets on my nerves (which shouldn't). So, no...I don't hate edxroy or royxed.


I just don't care about the pairing.


I guess everyone has their own right to like which pairing they want in a show. So what if some people like this pairing? They could like the pairing for all I care.


If there would be one thing that ticks me off however, if any would claim this pairing to have a possible canon in the manga.


THAT...is simply what I'd call "delusional".


Unless Arakawa give us something that'd hint to a possibility, I won't believe it.


Why this pairing seem to be popular? Could it be because seeing two hot guys making out exciting? To deviate into something else besides what they'd claim as redundant and cliche (edxwin, royxriza)? The majority of the fma fandom is composed of yaoi fangirls? Who knows?


Just don't claim it canon and I won't care.
Mhacy
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I really hate yaoi pairing to be honest.
i dunno where the hell did they get the idea on making boyxboy relationship.
I'm not against in all yaoi couples but dont pair someone who are not meant together.
I mean it's obvious that Roy has Riza as well as Ed has Winry.
so i cant seem to find any reasons on pairing this two. smile.gif
rzerox21xx
Vic Mignogna doesn't like the Ed and Roy pairing either, check out this video. He said Ed likes girls. I'm not sure if he reads the manga where the edwin is shown alot more, I think he does when he was talking about brotherhood.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfq9Ln3NbmI


poor guy, I heard he's pretty conservative in that area and to be honest, I would be too if I was a voice actor. Thats just me.
Miss MP
Before I give my explanation, I'll toss out a bit of background so people understand why my views are what they are.

I do not hate yaoi; in fact, I enjoy several maleXmale couples in a varied amount of manga, anime, fanfiction, et cetera [as well as femaleXfemale]. Secondly, I've seen all there is to see within the /fan/fiction realm, and I avidly defend the creator's right to alter characters, situations, and plots as they see fit. [After all, every creator is influenced by general media and any and all media they choose to review, whether consciously or unconsciously.] Some twists and changes I enjoy, some I do not, all hinging on plausibility. If I find something is outlandish and does the characters' morals or values a grave injustice, I'm much less likely to enjoy it, but still, I've seen quite enough of it. I've written and read fanfiction for over five years, and I've BETA'd for things I didn't care to read [be it pairing, situation, style].

Finding it difficult to "hate" fictional pairings, I simply find RoyEd the LEAST plausible out of most of the popular pairings of all three types [hetero, MM, FF], and its possibilities are diluted as the manga continues and / or how the anime portrayed the two characters. The dynamic has always expressed a distinct rivalry that's further supported by the comedic reactions [common in many shounen].

Now, fanfiction, imagination, popular media, and freedom allows us all to manipulate it and experiment with the elements in what ways we please. I use only the manga, and only canon, and I feel that the rivalry-aspect of the RoyEd bond is all too obvious, and if one wanted to show a more romantic of sexual aspect of it, that would take quite a bit of convincing. Arguably, Roy more likely has a stronger bond with Riza and Hughes [two of the most highlighted in relation to Roy], and all of his subordinates. Roy nor Ed never looks on the other on their level. It would take a great deal of storytelling to fill in the numerous blanks, whereas many other characters [especially RoyHughes] are closer to Roy where it would require less manipulation. Of course, RoyHughes would likely occur as a comfort-seeking relationship long before Hughes' death, perhaps even tapering after Hughes marries Gracia. Or, it would be an overt and subtle relationship having the potential to cross /that/ line [Remember in the manga, Roy's fierce obsession with Hughes' death that could push Roy over the edge and be blurred, quite easily due to the complexity of human emotions, into a slight romantic context].

Roy and Edward have come nowhere near that point where it blurs, and the Flame Alchemist's "bond" with the boy pales in comparison to Roy's bonds with his loyal subordinates, and Edward's with Al.

I won't even begin to critique the "possible romantic" dynamics that would have to grow in order for it to ever be plausible.
Nzm
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Those EdXRoy shippers should get a life. FMA turining into yaoi is probably the least probable thing in this manga and anime. Those guys are friends and some kind of rivals, but only yaoi-obsessed fangirls who don't have boyfriend and because of that watch big amounts of homosexual anime can think that they are lovers.

Forsaken Love
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QUOTE (Nzm @ Jul 16 2009, 01:31 PM) *
Those EdXRoy shippers should get a life. FMA turining into yaoi is probably the least probable thing in this manga and anime. Those guys are friends and some kind of rivals, but only yaoi-obsessed fangirls who don't have boyfriend and because of that watch big amounts of homosexual anime can think that they are lovers.

lol slightly harsh! But er i do have to agree with all that, I hate yaoi, if people like it, i wish they would watch shows which are actually shonen-ai, i hate it when they target shows that arn't yaoi, and in fullmetal it would never happen period, ed is shown to like winry and roy to like riza, and all that aside the age gap between ed and roy is a little bit sick, roy is twice ed's age for crying out loud lol XD
rzerox21xx
I rather nto see ed or roy dong anything they would for sure go against their characters and they way arkawa created them.


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OT:
If there any character in the series that I could see turning gay is probably Armstrong but I for some reason I highly doubt it. I could see him trying to pass down his family linerage so I dont know.

OT:
I honestly think yaoi and yuri is just as bad or almost as bad as hentai because it shows the character doing something that they would never do to the series. I find hentai offensive but yeah there are people who like it. I rather not see the characters I love doing things like that. I mean I wouldn't mind a tastefull love scene between ed and winry or roy and riza. Seeing Winry doing something pornographic is to me just as bad as seeing Yaoi. I rather avoid it and not see it and I must admit, I can get pretty self rightous especially when I'm passionate about the series.
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OT:
12 Types of anime con goers: kinda interesting, yeah I heard about the cons having paddlers.
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OT:
or this, 10 types of anime fangirls
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Nzm
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OT:
Well, about hentai:
it is vulgar and pornographic ofcourse, but I don't really think that having sex is something that, for example FMA characters, would never do. Maybe not in the primitve hentai-like way, but you know, there is difference between 'normal' sex and some stuff that many people would never do - just like between erotic art and porn. You know, if they don't have sex, they will never have children.

Tombow
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We appreciate your opinions and comments. Please keep in mind that this is NOT a "DEBATE" thread where BOTH SIDES ("pro" and "con") would freely post and debate the issue. This thread is set aside as a "safe haven" thread for people who hate EdXRoy to safely express how they feel without getting interrupted, heckled, etc., etc., from EdxRoy fans..
As such, we ask you to stay away from going deeply into "why Yaoi fans go into Yaoi" kind of analysis and discussions, or posting any bashing and trashing of EdxRoy "shippers" because IMO that is not fair when only one side is being allowed to post on this thread. If you'd like to branch off and add comments & have more serious discussions about Yaoi, Fangirlism, Anime Con goers, etc., etc., please post your comment and thoughts on threads that are designed to handle discussions for these topics. Thank you!! smile.gif

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I moved a bunch of posts that are mainly discussions about "why the poster does not like Yaoi" to: What & Why do you hate about Yaoi? thread.
If anyone would like to talk about anti-Yaoi, please add your post and discuss that on What & Why do you hate about Yaoi? thread. smile.gif


ETA: Aug. 30, 2009

Part of post content that is relevant to this thread from Hotmustard's post that was moved to What & Why do you hate about Yaoi? thread.
QUOTE (Hotmustard @ Aug 30 2009, 01:31 PM) *
I'm a HUGE RoyEd antifans in particular and shounen-ai/yao in general. Everytime I see a yaoi picture of ROyEd I-want-to-puke.

@Hotmustard - This thread is an "anti-RoyxEd" thread, and NOT an anti-Yaoi thread. Please do not use this thread as a platform to spew out your hatred for yaoi in general. As such, the rest of your post content was moved to What/Why do you hate yaoi? thread. Also, on that thread, I ask you to stop bashing and trashing of people who like Yaoi, and instead stick to explaining of WHY you hate Yaoi.



REMINDER..AGAIN:

This thread is where anti-EdxRoy FMA fans to safely express their disliking of EdxRoy paring without getting interrupted by RoyxEd fans. HOWEVER, this thread is NOT, I repeat, NOT an anti-yaoi thread. There are people who dislike EdxRoy paring but not necessarily anti-yaoi. If you would like to discuss your dislike of yaoi, please go to an appropriate thread for anti-yaoi discussion and post your anti-yaoi opinion there.
Tansy
edXroy is one pairing i'm strongly against out of all the yaoi/yuri in fma there is only one i like and this is not it!
xMinty
I hate this pairing.
It makes me want to throw up.
I looked up ed x roy on photobucket one time.
And I almost threw up.
because it's gross.
How do people find the pairing attractive..????
Roy is like twice as big as ed,
which makes it gross =/
yet it's the most popular pairing of fma!!
Misty- Nala
Yaoi is okay but the pairings I like are not the usual ones. I prefer Hughes/Ed (I know, it is crossing the line) and Havoc/Ed. yet, Roy/Ed is unacceptable.
First of all, as some of you have said, there is no romantic context in any of the animes, OVAs, games, manga, only doujinshi and fanfiction support that one. Fans just hooked two good looking guys together since they read subtle love messages from between the lines. Really, you can find something romantic in every sentence if you really try. Calling Edward short is just some quarrel between lover etc.

Besides, this pairing is pedophilia. Most of the yaoi pairings are since the story is about a teen amongst adult men. I won't say there wasn't comradeship between them but they can never be more than that, friends at tha most.

In most fanfics that are about Roy/Ed, Edward is always portrayed feminine. He would probably be the bottom most of the time in all pairings but in Roy/Ed it it taken to another level. He either carries children or wears dresses.

xMinty, I have to agree with you. Edward is too small to Roy, or at least he is portrayed that way. I keep pointing out things that would halt my favourite pairings too but here is a question: Why is the most loved Fma yaoi pairing also the most hated one?
AXavierB
^Ed/Roy is technically ephebophilia, not pedophilia, since Ed is 15-16 for most of the story. Still, I agree with a lot of the other things you said. I never understood who people why draw Roy/Ed fanart feel the need to feminize Ed so much. He's consistently portrayed as a flat-chested girl, I swear.
Luxuria-Cat
^ I know exactly what you mean with the flat-chested girl thing. I *hate* Roy and Edward as a romantic couple (because I think they are more of friends or family, and because Roy is too old for Ed whether it's ebophilia or pedophilia). I don't hate yaoi pairings, but I do hate how some- especially Roy/Ed- are portrayed as a manly man and a very stereotypically feminine boy. It's ridiculous.
black~hayate
I dislike yaoi. Don't really hate it. There might be some pairings I would like but in this case...
Why would an adult military man love a boy? And otherwise? Besides, they don't really come along.
When I imagine them kissing, it really is cross. I hate it. I just said that about kissing but fans of pairings like these most of the times write/draw much more than that...
MewPhong
In my opinion, Roy/Ed is wrong for quite a few things, please excuse me while I list them. Though before I go any farther I'm going to apologize to anyone whom I might have insulted with this post. This is just saying my opinion, which is what this thread is for(sort of) 
1.) Already brought up, the age difference. I think that if either of the people are old enough to be you're parents, (as in hit puberty before you were born) there shouldn't really be a relationship, but that's just me. (it sortof bothers me too, that someone 
2.) The fact that Roy's Eds boss/commanding officer. Dont get me wrong, I Royai, but it's just wrong (I have the same problem with all intermilitary pairings). It can be seen as trying to sleep your way to the top, Witch I consider morally wrong, kind of like nepotism. 
3.) Most, not all but quite a bit, of Royed contains them having sex. No I am not saying I'm a homophobe, I have many homosexual or bisexual friends, but in the time era that Fullmetal Alchemist is set in, it's not actually that common. I am fairly certain that couples in that era didn't have sex until after marriage. 
4.) Alot of it is ooc, something I am not a fan of (who is) I literally cringe when somethings too ooc. I'm pretty certain that neither of the two most stubborn people in fma would all of the sudden announce their love to each other. 

5.) (Warning! End of Series Spoilers Ahead -->)It defies cannon. Yes, it is cannon that Ed and Winry will end up together, no Roy does not have a cannon lover. But do you honestly see Ed as one of those people who has an affair? Or Roy as a house wrecker? I sure don't. In all honesty I despise those people. 

6.) When their headbutting and teasing is mis interpreted as flirting. By the attitude of those two it's just a rivalry because they're similar, with no romance underlinings. 

Now I'm going to follow up a few comments I've seen here but don't know where or by who or the exact quote. 

Concerning something that was talking about how in Japan the normal sex age is 12/13: Fullmetal Alchemist is set in Amestris, a counter part to Germany, not Japan,  in the early 1900's. I'm pretty sure the average sex age there is not 12/13. 

Concerning The author; No, we don't know who the author is really, I do know however, that she's a huge ship teaser. My main concern with Yaoi is usually that it might be going against the authors intention of the character. If the author didn't intend for the character (namely Roy or Ed seeing as that's what this thread is about) to be homosexual, why force them to be?

I think that is all for me. 
Schnabeltier
To be honest, I don't hate it, or yaoi. In fact I sometimes even ship yaoi but for this one... I just don't understand why it's overwhelmingly popular. I'll let age gaps, societal norms and ranks slide, but practically speaking, their interactions have no indication of it being a ship at all, aside from the friendly bickering when Ed drops by HQ. I understand that people ship it based on that, but for it to be this popular confuses me a little. There's very little to go with their interactions. It's not the kind that has romantic depth or anything sexual, even.

Basically, I'm okay if people like it but, personally I just don't find it to be a very engaging pairing the moment you drop their playful teasing. They really don't have much going for them, imo.
Misty- Nala
QUOTE (Schnabeltier @ Jun 3 2011, 06:01 PM) *
I'll let age gaps, societal norms and ranks slide, but practically speaking, their interactions have no indication of it being a ship at all, aside from the friendly bickering when Ed drops by HQ. I understand that people ship it based on that, but for it to be this popular confuses me a little.


Well, you know, if it exists there's yaoi of it wink.gif

I agree with you. Yaoi is okay, I enjoy Yaoi, have no problems with gay or lesbian people. I just don't see RoyEd really has a potential (And I'm not counting canon here). They can be friends, sure, but love and passion needs much more. Sometimes it seems to me that people see Edward as a female, not a young man he is, and thus decide to pair him with Roy and make them live in marriage just because they are complete opposites. Howis it said, opposites attract each other?
KimbleeWorshipper
I think MewPhong said it perfectly. I feel like all that pretty much proves that their "relationship" doesn't make any sense.

As for myself, I really don't like yaoi. And no, I'm not a homophobe. In fact, if an anime gives me a really good maleXmale couple, I'll support it happily. But FMA is NOT one of those cases. I literally just don't know where all of these RoyXEd supporters get their ideas from. It's like yaoi fans just pick two good-looking guys and be like, "YEAH, NEW FAVORITE COUPLE!" Sorry. That doesn't work with me.

And ya know, one of my favorite things that MewPhong brought up was the fact that RoyXEd fans make them SUPER OOC. Out of every reason listed (Warning! End of Series Spoilers Ahead -->)(yes, even above the fact that Ed and Winry are canon), this has got to be my biggest problem. I've read way too many fanfictions of this couple (just because they're ridiculously hilarious), and this is what I've seen consistently:

For some reason, everyone decides that Ed is pretty much a chick. Since when did Ed turn into a pansy? Last I checked, he was a tough, hot-headed boy.

And Roy usually isn't as bad as Ed, but I'm sure that Roy wouldn't have crazy, constant sex with fifteen-year-old boys. Roy's not a sex machine. He's a gentleman.

And as far as both characters go, in the anime and manga, they both act really straight. Where people got the idea to make them gay, I have no idea. But that's probably why they seem so OOC. Their characters literally have to be turned upside down in order to make them gay. But after changing their characters so drastically, are they even Ed and Roy anymore? I don't think so.
Dark-Winds
@KimbleeWorshipper Yes. I agree. Well put.
~Dark Flames~
I also agree that RoyEd just doesn't make sense and you guys put it perfectly. I'm not a yaoi fan but I do agree that some yaoi pairings are acceptable and some are even fun to see. However, for RoyEd, it's a completely different matter. How can you pair up a fifteen-year-old kid with a grown-up that's twice as old as him (and not to mention the height difference...)? EDIT: xD Sorry Ed I just had to say it and as RadicalDreamer said below height is not an issue (sorry if it appeared obnoxious or dictating in any way. It was just a casual remark/jest I made without thinking.) but age does contribute to the problem in this particular case since Ed is merely fifteen. Anyways, I just don't get this pairing and yet its popularity is surprisingly (and incomprehensibly) high!

To expand, I agree with many points mentioned before. I'm pretty sure there were no signs of them being romantically involved throughout the course of the story. To me, their relationship is simply that of a commanding officer and subordinate. Yes, they do care about one another and their bantering is hilarious and I understand many people enjoy this type of interaction. However, this does not equal romance. Why anyone could imagine them having a possibly sexual relationship is unfathomable to me :/. Also, canon pairings are arguably (but pretty clearly) present for both characters and they each have strong emotional connections with their female partners. I have no absolute hatred toward this pairing but overall, I would say that this pairing just doesn't make any sense at all.
RadicalDreamer
QUOTE (~Dark Flames~ @ Jun 8 2011, 04:21 PM) *
How can you pair up a fifteen-year-old kid with a grown-up that's twice as old as him (and not to mention the height difference...)?


Height difference isn't that much of a problem (Little people need love too, don't they, Edward ?). Age gap isn't necessarily a problem also (but in Ed/Roy's case, it is... as long as Ed is minor, it's wrong). I mean, my own parents have an 7 years age gap (and they met when my mother just turned 18... they were lucky lol)... and I know other parents with a 15 years age gap (Ed and Roy age gap).

In fact, my problem with this pair is... they don't make any sense. They barely interacted in the story. And of course, there is the fact they aren't gay in the first place (I'm not against homosexuals, I respect them, but I'm just not that much into slash... especially when the 2 characters are obviously straight in canon... best friends or not), Edward isn't a girly boy AT ALL (Roy isn't either), they both have a woman/girl they love dearly in canon and yes, the fact that Edward is too young for Roy for now is a problem. Add to that the fact that they're in the military... and as much as I love Royai, I don't think it would reflect good on them to act on their feelings while Riza is still under his command (one day, I'm sure things will change and they'll find a way... but for now... they're bound to their duty and honor). So it's the same thing for RoyEd.

I think they have fans just because they're both hot boys with an attractive personality... and they tend to fight each time they meet. Some people like bickering relationships (I mostly don't... romantically I mean *there are exceptions of course but such ships generally irritate/irk me*... but they can be really funny of course) and antagonist ones (it must be some sort of a kink to ship the hero/heroine and the sick villain together... I have some myself... but I don't ship them seriously *like Kefka/Terra from FF6 which is totally sick and unhealthy, but the art is fun to create* or I don't want them to be really together *like Erik/Christine from POTO or Krelian/Elly from Xenogears who are touching/intriguing but more or less wrong and not meant to be in the end*). I mean, it's not like Envy/Ed makes more sense... it's just a villain/hero kink.

And when it comes to Al/Ed... it disgusts me, without question. Bro love is bro love... it shouldn't turn into sexual stuff/romance. And no comment on the Ed/Ed pair rolleyes.gif (how do they come up with this stuff !?).
TheEmberAlchemist
I agree with everything everyone is saying here. Even if Roy and Ed were both gay, there's no way they'd get together. It just wouldn't work. As everyone said, there's of course the age thing, and then there's the fact that neither of them are gay. Roy's a womanizer. (Warning! Series Final Spoiler ahead! --->) And, we all know what happens with Ed at the end of the series

But that aside, let's just assume that they might be gay and they wouldn't let age get in the way of their love (I think I just choked on the sappiness of that sentence...) they would never start that kind of relationship. Roy constantly treats Ed like a child, because that's all he sees him as. A child. Meaning Roy would never go for him. Ed sees Roy as that annoying older sibling/authority figure who you might secretly idolize or like but he definitely wouldn't love him.

Also, they both have dominating personalities. Roy is a colonel, he's used to ordering people around. He doesn't like doing what others tell him to. He wants to become the Fuhrer of Amestris. He's a leader. Edward HATES doing what other people tell him to. He does whatever he wants whenever he wants. He talked his brother into doing human transmutation with him. His brother does whatever he tells him, because Ed is the leader. See how this wouldn't work. they could never have any relationship besides the one they have.

And, I think one reason RoyxEd is an often-hated FMA pairing can be because some of the Royai fans, like myself, won't put up with Roy X anything but Riza tongue.gif


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