TheWingedAlchemist
Apr 1 2007, 07:15 PM
Well, I think Envy would be kept, because he/she knows more than he/she looks like he/she does and gluttony looks like he has some signifigance, But over all I think that Sloth might die later on, but can't die yet, because obviously, hey are keeping him alive for something important but i think that Wrath might just die next, it seems likely and I can't tell you about Pride, he's a mystery adn about Greed/ling, i can't say about him either!
TheSnig
Apr 2 2007, 05:46 PM
I hope it's not Greed/Ling. I hope think Gluttony will be next.
Alchemical
Apr 2 2007, 05:50 PM
I think the next one will be Sloth or Envy. Though, I'm not really betting (not in my mind, either) on which character (homunculus or not) will die next.
The Mad Bomber
Apr 5 2007, 02:18 PM
I`ll put my money on Sloth, the obvious choice, as the story can really continue without sloth and Sloth hasn`t really appeared too much in the story all tough that would further more limit sloths use in the manga.
Chiisana
Apr 6 2007, 01:12 PM
Sloth

A homunculus that is lazy and maybe don't even bother to fight in order to keep himself alive? >_> Think Ed-team would kill him off pretty fast.
Amalthea
Apr 7 2007, 09:07 AM
Sloth, I suppose.
I think it really sucks that Greed and Lust, two kick-ass homunculi died fairly early while freaking Gluttony has lasted so long. Sorry if I sound so cynical, but seriously... who cares about Gluttony? Although, it is true he was important for the storyline at one point, but now that he died is Father bringing him back? I'd rather see Lust or the old Greed before him.
Envy is my favorite homunculus... I want him to stick around for a long time. I predict he and Wrath will be around for a while. Although somehow, I also think Wrath's downfall will be due to Mustang, just like the anime.
rikuskey
Aug 4 2007, 08:07 AM
NO DONT DIE ENVY!!!

yes ok another envy fan but anyhow i think that envy actully will play a huge role in the story line. i think that Gluttony will go next. Pride will def. be last to go. Wrath will go second to last cuz he is the {SPOILER} furuhur, king bradley {END SPOILER} but yeah i dunno. i was just glad to see lust go. needs a better dress...
Kryanka
Dec 28 2008, 07:24 AM
I wanted to add to my rant that nobody really fights the old set of homunculi... and for that, Hoho's virtues could be helpful. But I think they'll be ultimately destroyed some other way. Like:
Greed - he'll make friends with Ling and return to Xing to rule it for ever
Lust - she's ded
Envy - he's a bug, trapped in a jar and escorted by a very dumb Mary Sue princess, I hope that's gonna kill him soon
Gluttony - eaten by Pride
Pride - I hope his mother is his weakness and Al's way to make him more human really made a difference
Wrath - he used to be human, and that may be the clue to his end
Sloth - he looks wasted and I hope he may be dead too... he's strong but slow and stupid
Bac5
May 13 2009, 07:29 AM
I´ve seen chapter 95 and Envy actualy comits suicide, and the idea of thinking in "Sloth the Fastest Homonculi" realy creaps me out
Besides, C-Squad and A-Squad, commanded by General Armstrong are going to kill sloth ( I guess ), well ,at least Alex beated the humonculi out of Sloth
Tombow
Jun 29 2009, 03:29 PM
My turn to resurrect old topic!! :P
So far...
Gone
Lust
(Gluttony)
Envy
Sloth
=============
Still kicking:
Wrath
Pride
Greed
Lots of members were correct about the Envy and Sloth going.
What do you think will happen to the rest of the surviving homunculi?
penguintruth
Jun 29 2009, 03:55 PM
I can see Greedling being the last homunculi standing, becoming the Emperor of Xing. I mean, Ling wanted immortality, and Greed wants everything, what better way than to rule over an entire country? Both of their needs are met.
Wrath will return soon, and probably cause trouble for those putting the coup into action. It'll be pretty confusing when the Fuhrer shows up and states that the people taking over the government in his name are actually terrorists trying to take over the government. Then again, at this stage, it may not be necessary for Father to even have control of a government, since he's about to put his plan into action.
Pride is the most like Father, and may already been in Central. I have a feeling Father will end up using Pride in some way. Maybe when Hohenheim reveals that he's countering Father's alchemy array with his own, Father will use Pride to obscure the marks Hohenheim has made around the country.
Of the three remaining, I can see Wrath coming to an end the soonest, since I think Pride is, in a way, the most important homunculi to Father, so he'll probably be around until towards the very end.
Sannom
Jun 29 2009, 05:43 PM
QUOTE ("penguintruth")
I can see Greedling being the last homunculi standing, becoming the Emperor of Xing. I mean, Ling wanted immortality, and Greed wants everything, what better way than to rule over an entire country? Both of their needs are met.
Do I really need to remind you that ruling an entire country is not enough for Greed? That's the reason he ditched the others and is now on his own and back on my bad guys list.
Of all of the Homonculus, I could see Wrath being there for the longest time. The guy is too special of a Homonculus to meet his end before Pride and Greed. As for Greed, I think he will die and take Lin with him. Somehow, I can't see Lin survive.
DistantBlue
Jun 29 2009, 05:56 PM
A lot of what penguintruth said is part of my thinking.
I think Wrath will go down by Mustang's hand. However, Mustang would then have killed THREE homunculi, but I guess Arakawa trapped herself into having to have him kill the two and maybe three (Lust attacked Havoc and was set unto Hawkeye, Envy is a no brainer, and Wrath separated him from his gang, used Hawkeye as hostage, is going to be used by Wrath himself to 'open the portal', and is basically the one Mustang has been going after since before the beginning of the series, in terms of occupation). I would be fine if he was put down by another character, like Al or Ed, but there isn't as much of a connection as with Mustang.
With Pride, I'd like either Ed or Al to finish him off, or have Father use him, more so the first. Ed and Al need their big moment. While they are the main characters, they haven't accomplish the same great feats like the Curtises, Armstrongs, Hohenheim and Mustang have achieved in terms of taking down the baddies. They have accomplished the most character development-wise, but yeah.
And with Greedling....we need to see more of him! It's been nearly a year since they've shown up. But I'd say that Greed is the most 'human' homunculi with the most morals and compassion, and that penguintruth's theory fits well there.
BTW, this is all IMO, so don't freak out or anything.
penguintruth
Jun 29 2009, 06:11 PM
I would be really irritated if Roy takes down another homunculi. I think Greedling should take down Wrath, continuing the revenge for his comrades Wrath killed back in vols 7 and 8. Remember, he once attacked Bradley at his mansion, but then split. If he had another chance, I'd like to think he'd take it, and it would somewhat redeem Arakawa's decision to make Ling a new Greed to me.
Sannom
Jun 29 2009, 06:19 PM
QUOTE ("DistantBlue")
And with Greedling....we need to see more of him! It's been nearly a year since they've shown up. But I'd say that Greed is the most 'human' homunculi with the most morals and compassion, and that penguintruth's theory fits well there.
Greed is not more human than Lust, if you ask me. Perhaps even less so since he is completely directed by his sin in all of his actions and choices. Wrath is the most human for me : he knows love, boredom, wrath, patience, respect, enjoyment. He is the only one that aged and learned through aging, like a human.
Kirara
Jun 29 2009, 07:16 PM
Technically Mustang did not kill Envy. Envy killed himself. And technically Envy killed himself because of Ed's words not because of Roy's actions.
Anyways as for the other homunculi well I am not 100% sure Bradley or even Pride will die. I believe their relationship with Mrs. Bradley will be important in the end.
Another thing is I am not going to predict specific fights but it's very possible that the fights with the homunculus will not be one on one.
Animeoldtimer
Jun 29 2009, 08:09 PM
Kirara I think you're right in stating that Mrs. Bradley will play a key roll in what happens to Wrath. He stated to Roy that Salim was not his weakness, but perhaps Mrs. Bradley is.
Anyway, I could see Bradley and Ling returning to their human selves, but there is no place in the new world for Bradley and I believe he'll be the next to go. I do think that Ling will find a way to rid himself of Greed or perhaps Greed will fade away when father dies and Ling will get his body back. However, I could see Greed leaving residual effects on Ling.
All-in-all based on the cliche "Pride comes before a fall", I think he'll be the last to go or go down with father. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Pride was the next to go. I think he is the weakest character of the three remaining homonculi--Not the weakest homonculi, just the least interesting. He could absorb the others, though.
Forsaken Love
Jun 30 2009, 12:32 AM
are there like any left now XD haha *counts off fingers* lust, gluttoney, envy, sloth okkkkk i dont think wrath is dead yet, so i think him, i think pride will be last, dunno bout greed hes not really a bad guy right now and hes in ling so dunnooo
Mhacy
Jun 30 2009, 07:03 AM
Wrath for me...
i dont think pride would die that easy...
his form is the same as the original humunculus form.
and i think he will be the last humuculus on the end of the series.
and as for greed maybe ling will take over his body again.

I also looking forward the conclusion between ling and ran fan.
Sannom
Jun 30 2009, 08:20 AM
QUOTE
Anyway, I could see Bradley and Ling returning to their human selves, but there is no place in the new world for Bradley and I believe he'll be the next to go.
I don't think that Bradley can "return" to his human self since he "is" his human self. His soul was probably created from the mix of the Stone's soul and the human's soul, and so his competence and personality were also a mix of the two. He probably has only one soul and would have died of old age unless Father took him back in him to give him a new body.
Greed is another story : the two souls are completely separated, and Greed can't use Lin's abilities unless he gives him control. So here Lin could come back.
In other words, Bradley has a choice to make, between his family of soul/blood or his family of heart.
Kirara
Jun 30 2009, 09:16 AM
QUOTE (Sannom @ Jun 29 2009, 05:43 PM)

Do I really need to remind you that ruling an entire country is not enough for Greed? That's the reason he ditched the others and is now on his own and back on my bad guys list.
I hardly see how Greed is back on the "bad guy's list" just because he ran off and said he wanted to rule the world. Until we actually see what Greed's actual plans are, I would say he is pretty neutral. I highly doubt he is on Father's side at the very least. He might be on Greed's side but that doesn't necessarily mean he is going to be antagonistic to the human side. Greed was never really shown to be that much of a bad guy.
Sannom
Jun 30 2009, 05:28 PM
We don't know if Father is a bad guy then, since we don't know what he wants to do

I mean, all those death and manipulations could perhaps lead to something greater and better for the humankind, for all we know. For me, Greed is a bad guy : he has the objective to rule the entire world, and since there is no way he can get the level of loyalty the chimeras showed to him from an entire population just by petting them, he will be harsher because he doesn't want to share anything and wants everything for himself. Greed is a bad guy, he does good things out of purely selfish motives, the opposite of the misguided villain, but there is always a moment where he would go beyond the line.
Kirara
Jun 30 2009, 06:08 PM
Silly me clearly it's not Father but Greed who is the ultimate villain of the story. And of course we can tell all that from one line he uttered in the recent chapter.
kkg22104
Jul 1 2009, 07:55 PM
It's hard to say, but I don't think Pride is going down anytime soon. We have no idea where Greedling is after he ran off, so I'm going to take a stab and say Wrath.
Wait...Father counts as a Homunculus too, right? What would happen if he died next?
Rileycakes
Jul 2 2009, 03:33 PM
I almost think that Pride will consume so many other entities that he'll implode. I wouldn't mind seeing Al taking him down, though
Lost_in_translation
Jul 10 2009, 01:33 PM
QUOTE (Rileycakes @ Jul 2 2009, 04:33 PM)

I almost think that Pride will consume so many other entities that he'll implode. I wouldn't mind seeing Al taking him down, though
And I'd like to see Ed take him down. Or at least both of them together.. but nah it should be Pride vs Ed (Al could take on Gluttony; that'd be pretty badass too) Why? Because that's the only thing Ed is yet to overcome: his pride. I mean it's true that it Ed wasn't so proud there's would've been a lot less messy stuff in his life. This probably sounds confusing but I kind of see them as a kind of 'nemesis' characters. They're very alike on one hand yet also totally different. I think this fight would be pretty awesome to see for the sake of fighting itself and char develpment. Plus from the ˝how a book/comic book/movie should be written˝ point of view I think Ed deserves a solo fight with the strongest of the homunculi (he's the main char). That said I wouldn't like to see Mustang in too much spotlight. Sorry guys, but it's time for other chars too.
Oh and I think Gluttony will go next. Pride still needs some more power for his final showdown and I have a feeling we'll also see some kind of Greeling vs Wrath action. It's true Gluttony holds a grudge against Mustang coz of Lust but I'll doubt Arakawa would pull such a thing. Than again I may be wrong.
RoyxRizaFan
Jul 10 2009, 01:50 PM
I really want Pride to stick around for a while and show us why he's the strongest homonculus. I think Hayate is going to be the one to take him down XD
I keep forgetting Gluttony is gone...if he really is gone for good. I think he is, but his powers are still living, inside of Pride, or something like that (I think).
Forsaken Love
Jul 10 2009, 02:15 PM
wrath vs greeling is gonna be awesome! I think Wrath will be next to go, allthough i think its unlikely that Greeling will take him down single handedly, but then he might considering that Greed and Ling seperatly lost but together... dun dun DUN XD I don't want Roy to kill anymore he's allready killed lust and practically envy too, althooooough i can see him maybe to be the one to kill Wrath wanting to be fuher an all, since him and ed have been absent for a couple of chapters they'll appear at the end of next months or something to help Greeling out?
penguintruth
Jul 10 2009, 03:45 PM
Greedling and Wrath will tear each other up and then Pride comes along and absorbs both of them, but Ling survives due to the intereference of Ran Fan.
Okay, just a theory.
Kuura
Jul 11 2009, 01:27 AM
I personally think that Wrath will be next one to go. It's almost sure that there will be a showdown between Greed and Wrath. And I'm almost sure that Ran Fan will interfene. May she even kills Wrath... She's just a badass, she would be likely candidate to kill one of the homunculi. I doubt she could kill Greed (bacause of Lin) and Pride's too big shot, so I think Wrath's going to die next by her. About Pride and Greed, it's sure that Pride will die, but in Greed's case it's unsure will he die at all...
Forsaken Love
Jul 11 2009, 03:59 AM
maybe Greed won't get killed by the good guys persay but since he's part of father technically when father gets murdered Greed will die aswell, leaving ling his body back?
Haru0496
Jul 11 2009, 04:01 AM
Gluttony + Pride.. i guess..
Sannom
Jul 11 2009, 04:04 AM
I doubt that Wrath will go down now since he is the main problem for the good guys and like the biggest, most dangerous enemy they got. So my money is on Greed for the next Homonculus to die.
Forsaken Love
Jul 11 2009, 04:09 AM
you might be right actually, maybe Greed will do something very ungreedy, Bradly like murders him and he lets himself die and let ling live? and then maybe other characters will jump in and save him at the last minuit, oooooor maybe Greed and Wrath kill each other?
kkg22104
Jul 11 2009, 04:12 AM
QUOTE (Forsaken Love @ Jul 11 2009, 07:09 AM)

...maybe Greed will do something very ungreedy...
Nah, that's pretty unlikely. His name is Greed after all. It seems that either Wrath or Greedling are probably going to die from their fight, but it'll be interesting if both of them kill each other.
o-ren
Aug 4 2009, 05:40 PM
Crackpot theory #2! What if Pride's "mother" saw him and what he was doing to people and became afraid and ASHAMED of him. I don't know about you but the more I think of it, the more I think he takes pride in being a son more than a hounculus. Seeing Mrs. Bradley look at him in disgust may push him over the edge. Heck, he may even kill her sparking Wrath to go after him in a fit of rage.
Pride might then consume Wrath and then unfortunately for Pride, consuming a force that is bent on destroying him, the wrath that is now apart of him may destroy itself, killing Pride. I dunno, those two characters share a commonality for a reason. Thoughts?
HannahBlack09
Aug 5 2009, 11:59 AM
Wrath will be most likely the one to go down next, I believe that Pride is much powerful so Greedling with help, can defeat him.. but Pride its another story
Forsaken Love
Aug 5 2009, 12:08 PM
i wouldnt be surprised if 2 or all 3 all died together rather than one at a time, maybe wrath and greed will kill each other, or if they all survied they'd die when father gets killed
TheSentinel
Aug 6 2009, 06:10 PM
I don't know whether its just me hoping, but I've got the distinct impression that Wrath is going to hang around for a bit longer. He's yet to been injured in any form, aside from temporarily blinded briefly. I'm very curious to see how he gets taken out, since I think its unlikely any of the homunculus will survive the series.
I don't know if this theory has been jostled about before (it probably has), but I thought that if Father dies, the homunculi formed with stones at their center would die as well (or be sucked up into Father's body during some last stand sequence), but Wrath and Lin might have a different reaction. Maybe they'd experience a reversal of what they went through in becoming homunculi, and the stones would be wrenched out of them. If that's the case, Wrath would probably die, as his humanity isn't as strong as Lin's... Still, the idea of a de-homunculized Bradley is an interesting one.
(Not just because Bradley is so badass he probably WOULD survive the final battle and do a merry little dance in the smoking rubble. A manly dance, of course.)
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