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Col. Mustang
I personally am just going to go on believing the movie either didn't happen or ended differently in my head. The way they ended the series at least left some hope and such for things to work out nicely, the movie kinda doesn't. Also, the movie has so many plotholes and inconsistencies that I just don't want to take it seriously. See my reply in the "Rate the Movie" thread if you want more info.
Winkle
QUOTE(Col. Mustang @ Feb 10 2006, 02:42 PM) [snapback]348455[/snapback]

I personally am just going to go on believing the movie either didn't happen or ended differently in my head. The way they ended the series at least left some hope and such for things to work out nicely, the movie kinda doesn't. Also, the movie has so many plotholes and inconsistencies that I just don't want to take it seriously. See my reply in the "Rate the Movie" thread if you want more info.


Oh yea, I read your post in that topic and I completely agree. In fact, those are only SOME of the plotholes/inconsistencies that I noticed. I have a huuuge list of all the problems of the movie. I was going to post those too but then I couldn't remember how to use the Spoilers feature and just went "meh".

Jedi28

[spoiler]I didn't like all the inconsistencies either. The top one for me would be why doesn't Al attach part of his soul to some armour, send it through, destroy the gate and then he and Ed could have stayed home? The biggest inconsistency problem I had was with Ed. I love him but he didn't seem like the same character in the movie. I know he's grown up some but he kept the same personality throughout the anime so why not the movie? I missed the attitude shown in the opening scene of "we better get off now" "why?" "I don't like this place so I rigged it to blow up" "What?! Why do you always do things like that?!" or better yet the attitude of "who are you calling so small you want to step on and squish like an ant?!" Movie Ed was to serious.[/spoiler]

and here for those who still hold out hope.

http://www.adultswim.com/shows/fullmetal/i...transcript.html

That's a link to the interview with the director of the FullMetal Alchemist movie. He says that because the manga is still running there's the POSSIBILITY of more movies being made but that he won't be working on them.
ed_elrich
elo guyz...well dis is my 1st tym posting....

uhm just wondering if FMA:coqueror of shambala is out in the US.....

coz in my contry its out in the market tongue.gif

i just love it......

another question....
do u knw FMA:bluebird's illusion?...wat kind of game is it and for wat console? is it for ps2?

i really don't knw......>.<

i want to complete my collection!!!!!
i only hav FMA:series(complete), FMA:movie(awesome!!!!) and fMA:games for ps2 console(broken angel and the forbidden elixer)....i dn't hav any origigal soundtracks yet...only downloads(all op and ed music)...... cool.gif
chibi_tenko
tongue.gif I don't want another sequel movie. I want OVA! Let's see, maybe two episodes set in Hagaren world, two in alternate world and the last two episodes on how Ed and Al finally get back to their own world.

*drools*

Tenko

BTW, all of the alter characters that we see in the movie were all dead, right? Scar, Lust, Bradley, Hughes and Lyla... So, does that mean that Dante's dead in Hagaren world? I remember in episode 51, when they show the elevator scene - there was no one there in elevator, except for a big hole on the floor. But did you guys notice that there's a dark smugde that looks like blood next to the hole in the elevator? ( on the right side of the hole, it's like a faint horizontal smudge.

I am the Only sister Elric
Jedi: I think ed was just missing the real al and going through a lot. And thats why he wasn't all "Dont call me small, I'll rip your feet off and sickem' on your head!"
Oh and ed_elrich I believe the movie comes to the US(english dubbed) on October 3rd. ^.^
VnzlaKnight
there is only one truth is this the end sucks, that dont is a end is some crazy idea about how to end a good serie that disapoint me why they do that?? why they cant stay in the world of alchemist or is they want that final for the serie contineu the serie create another 51 ep or a sequel to the movie,why mr adnerson why??? a taht is a very gay final for what reason Edward dont stay with winry i dotn lke that the only god thing i can think is that after the end of the WWII they come back to the Alchemist world but how they can help in the WWII without alchemy they are going to enter in the Armyż? or in the british armyż? and a question in the movie how they destroy the gate if they can use the alchemy?? and if roy dont destroy the other side they can go back??? if that are in that way there is a hope for a godd ending tongue.gif smile.gif
Popogeejo
The ending was fine.Ed and Al were happy which is what most people wanted.
There's bound to be another film so Ed and Winry can get it on.Same goes for Roy and Riza.
VnzlaKnight
Is another movie in production?? the only god in that ending is that, and there is some interrogatives like how they destroy the gate or if roy dont destroy the gate and after the WWII they come to the wolrd of the alchemist i realy want a next season o FMA or another movie.
I am the Only sister Elric
QUOTE(VnzlaKnight @ Apr 5 2006, 01:47 PM) [snapback]375077[/snapback]

Is another movie in production?? the only god in that ending is that, and there is some interrogatives like how they destroy the gate or if roy dont destroy the gate and after the WWII they come to the wolrd of the alchemist i realy want a next season o FMA or another movie.

I highly doubt that there is going to be another seson. I don't think they could do it well enough.
marktse
QUOTE(Jedi28 @ Feb 12 2006, 03:42 PM) [snapback]349245[/snapback]

[spoiler]I didn't like all the inconsistencies either. The top one for me would be why doesn't Al attach part of his soul to some armour, send it through, destroy the gate and then he and Ed could have stayed home? The biggest inconsistency problem I had was with Ed. I love him but he didn't seem like the same character in the movie. I know he's grown up some but he kept the same personality throughout the anime so why not the movie? I missed the attitude shown in the opening scene of "we better get off now" "why?" "I don't like this place so I rigged it to blow up" "What?! Why do you always do things like that?!" or better yet the attitude of "who are you calling so small you want to step on and squish like an ant?!" Movie Ed was to serious.[/spoiler]

and here for those who still hold out hope.

http://www.adultswim.com/shows/fullmetal/i...transcript.html

That's a link to the interview with the director of the FullMetal Alchemist movie. He says that because the manga is still running there's the POSSIBILITY of more movies being made but that he won't be working on them.

Well it was just a last minuete decision for Ed and he acts really brash. Alphonse said why don't you think before acting in the beginning of the movie when blew up that castle. I think the point the writers wanted to say that there isn't a better world that Ed had to accpet that it was his world too now and that the people and lives there matter. He told the Jewsish Bradley that he was mad that King bradley did nothing while the party was forming then ran off but really he saw that he wasn't doing anything in that world either. Just dreaming of going home.

I really liked how Huges was there. Hes still protective of Ed. Although a little humorless, less light hearted. Maybe its Glacia that makes him loosen up more. I wonder if Nazi Hughes has a best pal a certain Roy mustang. They had a unique friendship. It would be funny to see maybe a less guilt ridden Mustang as the lighthearted one showing off picture of his kid with Hawkeye. Someone said people on the altnerate side were polar opposites and that wasn't true. I thin based on his life Hughes was more melonchy and strict and less educated to not hate others. Glacia seemed the same person and Alphonse was still a sweet kid. Lyra was still a b1tch.

I cracked up when Glacia was hitting on Ed. She was like do I really remind you of your mother? or maybe gf? and Ed was like no not really. Its easy to see why hughes would be jealous and upset at Ed at times.

I really liked how they show an althernate scarless Scar and Lust togheter. How Alphonse's rocket development team has all the special ops chimeras from lab 5th. I was hopeing Martel and Al would have a thing going.

the biggest in consistency is when Ed shows up in the body of Ed Heinrich during the second to last episode he was in london during the bombing of Britan. That would be right before the Alley Invation of Normandy. By then Hitler would have had writhdrawn tropps from france and pushed a two front war with Russia and have all of Europe. In the movie, Ed is in Germany prior to the national socialist party came to power and Hitler is arrested during the government takeover. Basically there is a time discrepancy. 2nd off it can't be our world becuase hitler succeeds winning the election by killing his competiors and then creates the 3rd Reich and splits the military from the Riech army and the SS the socialist party miilitary. And they show him being captured. I thnk they went back in time because if Ed was in WWII, then Hughes as a police officer would be in the battalion of troops that killed jews and gypsies example Battalion 101. The soldiers were used for the frontline wars. I think racism is a reoccuring theme. The Ishbalite kids were very segregated and didnt' like unpure ishabalites and alchemic users. Ed says he admits our emotions betray us and we're afraid of each other, but we're all people and must help one another. Same with the racist german guy in the hospital or the Echheart who said that people on the other side of the gate were mosnters.

Also Ed grew up by another 2 years. He'd be like 17 or 18. Practically a man back then. People gew up faster in those days. Think about it. 18 year old boys were being drafted for war. And there were some bickering and he wasn't that short anymore. I think in the series he was shorter then most people expected becuase he proclaimed himself to be man the day he burned down his house at 11 years old and then passed a nationally certified alchmey exam. Don't get me wrong, hes a short stack but no midget.
VnzlaKnight
Men you have a confussion in the series went Ed go trough the door he is in the WWI these reason revealls that:
1. In the Londond Bombign the German are using Zeplin and in the WWII they dont use Zepelin and the BomBing in london during the WWI use Zepelin.
2. is you Listen to the conversation how The Father of Ed have with one of the British officer say " the Almirant Churchill want to speak with you" in the WWII churchil is First Minister.
3. In the Movie Hittler dont die and in the real history something similar happen adn if you listen to the final conversation betwen Ed and Al they speak abuot another great war.
marktse
QUOTE(VnzlaKnight @ Apr 6 2006, 04:41 PM) [snapback]375623[/snapback]

Men you have a confussion in the series went Ed go trough the door he is in the WWI these reason revealls that:
1. In the Londond Bombign the German are using Zeplin and in the WWII they dont use Zepelin and the BomBing in london during the WWI use Zepelin.
2. is you Listen to the conversation how The Father of Ed have with one of the British officer say " the Almirant Churchill want to speak with you" in the WWII churchil is First Minister.
3. In the Movie Hittler dont die and in the real history something similar happen adn if you listen to the final conversation betwen Ed and Al they speak abuot another great war.



Oh good call. I feeel like an idiot.
InsaneFangirl
I don't think any of us wanted to series to end...it was a very bittersweet feeling. But if it had to, I liked how it ended. The only sequel I can think of is how Ed and Al deal with the war.
VnzlaKnight
but what can do Ed an Al in the WWII if they dont are alchemist??? and like marktse say why Al dont put his soul in a armor an destroy the the gate from that sideż?, the problem in the final of the movie is the interrogants that it leaves and the sad thing that it is.
Nil-chan
yeah, i know! the movie made me unhapy. the ending was sad and left no clear notion of what happend. they killed off good characters and someof the characters were way off. Especially mustang. it made me upset and they made him seem so emo. grr. and i didn't get my royai. i was promised royai and all i get is a teaspoon of implied royai.
Popogeejo
They had to delete the Three hour sub-plot(including a very steamy scene) because one frame was slighty off and it bugged the director to much.[/joke]
Kironeko
I didn't like the ending; it left me unsatisfied and a little depressed; I'm tired of my favorite shows doing that. Even though it wasn't supposed to be perfect ("Life isn't perfect" was very much a theme of the show, and was said several times in the last episode), I still reallly really wanted it to end with them in their world together and with body (happy.gif). Arakawa-sensei talked about how, while they burned down their house, they still had a home (and family) to return to. What's with them not returning "home"? I admit, however, that I liked how Ed finally came to connect and care about tech-world, our world, which gives it credit as being just as interesting and real and worthy as alch-world. But still, even though "they're the same," the people and memories are not. I want Ed and Al to be with alch-world Winry (among others) - the girl with whom they share so many memories - the tech-world Winry is not going to be the same as their Winry because she grew up in a different world and had different experiences.

Yeah, it could have been worse - a lot worse. And the two Elric brothers were together and Al got his body and even as an added bonus his memories, which is all great, but what about Winry (to bring her up again)? She's family too. And now she, whose whole life seems to revolve around those two, will never see them again. That's depressing. And there's more than one way they could have closed the gates without leaving (the best one was described earlier with Al transmuting a piece of his soul into a suit of armor); the fact that they did it that way annoys me because I think one or both of them might have thought of something (ie. "Nii-san, don't! Let me! I can..."), especially since Ed was so keen on getting home. That ending just felt...contrived. Believeable, but contrived (is that an oxymoron?).

In the end, I know it's one of those stories that portrays "real life" with all its unfairness and sorrow in addition to the love and humor, but because it isn't real life (this isn't a documentary or anything ^o^) and because there are times when things really work out in the best way. . . Well, because of all they've been through, it just makes you want it more. We (generally) like to see things work out, the hero win, and all that. Personally, I love inspiring stories. I know many many don't "make it", but that's why I love to see the ones who do, the ones who actually achieve their dreams and end up "the way it's supposed to be". We just shouldn't have to search or try hard to be happy with the ending. (Although I am glad there was an ending with the two of them together, unlike Ep 51).

And for anyone who thinks "that's it" plotwise, there's still room for the gates to be opened again.

P.S. Sorry for the long post. And yeah, I was hoping for some royai too.
Chiyo-chan
well, atleast ed and al are back together right? ... it should have been a little bit more happier tho>.> oh well
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