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RolfKaese
Official Summary of the Square-Enix Page:

連れさられたアルを追って、セントラルに向かったエド。そこで再会したトリンガム兄弟より、エドは、第五研究所の先にあった、『賢者の石』に纏わる、巨大な研究場の所在を教えられる。

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Guest
A translation,

Chasing after the kidnapped Al, Ed headed towards Central. Since he met again the Tringham(sp?) brohters, Ed is at the former 5th Lab. He gets to learn the location of a huge lab associated with the "philosopher's stone".
odoridan
What a long week this was. The teaser from 48 was just mean.

Tringham brothers again?

Looks like we will get some more of Full Metal Archer. rolleyes.gif Why would he be hard for Izumi to beat? I mean, wouldn't he be the worst thing to send against an alchemist? Just transmute his arm or leg into a cage or pointy object to impale him. He's supplying the materials for her.

Will Winry be in this episode? If the dog is shown, Winry can't be far off.

Ooo. can't wait to find out who the mysterious Ed look alike is.
Ninie
Is it me or it seems like Al is missing a bigger part..?
Satoru
Perhaps Hagane no Archer has a few other tricks to pull off first. ^^ It'd be boring to see Izumi just wave her hands and defeat him...

Oh, and yeah, it does look like Al has been used again...
Shiroi
I find it amusing that every other episode or so, there's a mysterious "Ed look-alike." ^^; I wanted to post about this in the 48 thread, but it didn't work. Anyway, here are some possibilities as to who he is. Some were mentioned in the 48 thread. (This is from the preview btw)

1. Envy's true form
2. Hoenheim's body when he was younger
3. Ed with his arm back
4. Ed the way he looks behind the gate
5. Some sort of flashback, although I have no idea of what
6. Russel
7. Wrath, after he steals Ed's body. (*dodges flying objects*)
8. Envy making a bad attempt to look like Ed.
9. Al (highly unlikely)

I think it's Russel, although I'm not sure. The shirt looks like something only Russel would wear somehow. Maybe he straightened his hair and got contacts? ^^; Or it could be Ed on the other side of the gate, the way he would have been if that incident never happened to begin with. We'll see.

Has anyone noticed how in the preview, Al's "head" falls or something like that? Maybe he gets his body back and discards the armor?

Also, I wonder what happens with Rose. Ed did say he might not see her again, and usually, when he says that, it's true. I hope Dante didn't take her body.

I'm also worried about what will happen to Roy. The whole episode 48 was named after Ed's "Sayonara," so I wonder if that means something will happen to him. He'd better be all right! -.-

These previews raise soooo many questions. Like what else was up with the 5th lab, what happens to Al, and is Hoenheim alive? And just what's the deal with Archer, anyway? This is all getting too confusing. Anyway, I think too much, don't I? ^^;;;

Random note: The title is "Tobira no Mukou e," same as the second ending. "Tobira" literally means door, not gate. I wonder if the theme of this episode has anything to do with the second ending. The lyrics were pretty interesting. (Again, I think too much. sleep.gif)
Guest
that's al, i think

adn what happened on september 2nd, 1916 a.d. ???

what is teh devil of 14 units? what?
Guest
World war 1

zepplin attack.

You have the Internet Do some research. biggrin.gif
TheVileOne
I've got a question. How would Envy know what Winry looks like? Had he ever actually seen her in person before. I hope he didn't do anything to Winry, Sciezka, or Pinako.
Kodachrome
It's not Russell, his eyes aren't that color.
Quistis88
A little random, but . . . that dress doesn't really suit Roze, and is Den going to fight with a little beetle!? I think it's a beetle anyway . . . nonetheless, I want to see Den in action!
Omakase Shimasu
I'm gonna ask something really stupid now, I just know it, but what the freck is Envy holding? blink.gif I thought it was Wrath at first, but now that I've looked at it more closely it has the distinct form of a vase. blink.gif

Hehe, Den's chances of actually winning seem pretty slim. Ah~ if only he could do alchemy. rolleyes.gif I wouldn't mind some Den action either. Gives him the chance to show Black Hayate he (is Den a he?) can be just as cool as the little pipsqueak in the manga. tongue.gif
Guest
QUOTE(Omakase Shimasu @ Sep 18 2004, 06:15 AM)
I'm gonna ask something really stupid now, I just know it, but what the freck is Envy holding?  blink.gif I thought it was Wrath at first, but now that I've looked at it more closely it has the distinct form of a vase.  blink.gif

Hehe, Den's chances of actually winning seem pretty slim. Ah~ if only he could do alchemy. rolleyes.gif I wouldn't mind some Den action either. Gives him the chance to show Black Hayate he (is Den a he?) can be just as cool as the little pipsqueak in the manga. tongue.gif

Dude sorry to tell yea BUT THAT IS ENVY. dry.gif
Queen of the dammed
If anyone happens to watch the raw within 24 hours, could you spoil me please?
RolfKaese
np, I will do it then. ^^
Omakase Shimasu
QUOTE(Guest @ Sep 18 2004, 07:03 AM)
QUOTE(Omakase Shimasu @ Sep 18 2004, 06:15 AM)
I'm gonna ask something really stupid now, I just know it, but what the freck is Envy holding?  blink.gif I thought it was Wrath at first, but now that I've looked at it more closely it has the distinct form of a vase.  blink.gif

Hehe, Den's chances of actually winning seem pretty slim. Ah~ if only he could do alchemy. rolleyes.gif I wouldn't mind some Den action either. Gives him the chance to show Black Hayate he (is Den a he?) can be just as cool as the little pipsqueak in the manga. tongue.gif

Dude sorry to tell yea BUT THAT IS ENVY. dry.gif

Okaaaay... Envy holding vase-Envy. @__@ Seriously, I gotta catch up with you guys. I understand zilch now.
RolfKaese
lol so senseless. guest, next time read kase's posting more carefully ^^
RolfKaese
sry for double-post, but.......

http://mbs.jp/hagaren/bb/50mixi.asx


OOOOOOOMMMMMGGGGGGGG!!!

O-ton:

"Hagane no Renkinjutsushi... Episode 50: Shi - Death"

*horroristic music playing*

At the end:

Ed: "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

O______O;;;;;;;

The Person is defenitely Ed, you see him in the preview to episode 50. also there is hohenheim with Ed, Roze with Lyra, scared gluttony with Envy and at the end... Al bound to the ground with an activating circle under him... at this scene Ed screams....

i'm scared... @_@
Omakase Shimasu
Eh? Not Envy-vase? @__@ Ed.. screaming? That asx. is only a friggin' text file when I download it. Where are my clips?!?! Where is my sound??

Rolfie~ Look what you're doing to me~!! @______@
Queen of the dammed
I can't WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! *waaaaaiiiiiiilllllllsss*
Shinigami
This is making more like Al's gonna die unsure.gif
Neatbare_sitsurei
Well...What should I say after finish to see the ep 49...

The predictions by many people here is correct. therefore ,
there are not so many new clue about the riddles.
I will wait one more week to get them.

in London, I could see some zeppelins at the final moment of this ep.
It's too early to say what is the meaning in its attack.

Anyway, I could enjoy a quite long time of phillosopical conversation
between Ed and Dante.The meaning of death might be an important
theme toward the end of this story.
Halogen(needstoregister)
in the episode 50 preview or whatever that happend to be, that looks like Al when he was younger, but I thought Al had diffrent coloured eyes. Ah well....
Netabare_sitsurei
QUOTE(Shinigami @ Sep 18 2004, 12:55 PM)
This is making more like Al's gonna die  unsure.gif

I don't think so because once one of the staff (Director?) of this story said.

"the way of finish is better for Al ... " something like this....

And I wish it would be so.
Guest
Episode 49 raws are spreading through chinese/korean torrent sites now...
Guest
Ep 49 Raw from a certain person calling himself a DBZ-powered-up-'man' is also popping up at torrent sites tongue.gif
RolfKaese
quite strange episode, why is the world beyond the gate "our" world? o_O

and again they were too scared to put the "Hakenkreuz" onto the zeppelins.. >_>
Fullmetal Armor
OMGOMGOMGOMG What an episode!!!!....

*faints* *dies*
RolfKaese
someone able to give a more detailed summary? i didnt get much from raw since i dont understand japanese T__T
Netabare
at first in London , Hoenheim said to Ed (looking guy) as
"Edward-kun" and later Hoenheim awered that
the mind of "Edward-kun" changed to "Edward who is his son" and
he asked "Are you my son Edward?"

This means (in London) their relationship is not a father and son.
Then who is the first "Edward-kun"? His looking is quite close to "Ed"'s.

Who is "Edward-kun" in London? Is(Are) there different Edward(s)
in diffrent place and time?

This is the newest riddle from this episode.
wolfi1412
can't wait for the subbed!!!
Fullmetal Armor
Aww man, I feel sorry for Gluttony (whom btw had imo very nice convincing animations in this episode)
Kodachrome
I am extremely disappointed at this episode... or rather, I suppose, this entire series.

As it turns out, the world the FMA characters were living in is an Alternate Reality of the Real World, so it's 1916 Sept2nd during WW1 in both the FMA-world and the Real World, and the German Zeppelins are attacking London... -____-

This is the 'big plot twist' that's going to 'bring everything together.'
RolfKaese
nah, koda.. too early to judge ^^ early lol 2 episodes left XD
Carnal Malefactor
My head hurts....

I guess this is the BONES trademark weird ending...






















...At least it's not predictable, like so many other anime endings...

But still... WHAT.THE.FUCK!?!
Fullmetal Armor
I am very curious about what Dante is saying about equivalent trade. Seems it is a fallacy and that the watches of State Alchemist do something with the 'error margin' in equivalent trade.
Kodachrome
QUOTE(RolfKaese @ Sep 18 2004, 07:26 PM)
nah, koda.. too early to judge ^^ early lol 2 episodes left XD

Ok, let me rephrase this...

They have TWO EPISODES to kill the remaining homunculi, defeat Dante, explain to Ed and Al Dante's involvement IN the story, explain the real world and the other side of the gate, wrap up things in the military - Roy's Scenario and Armstrong's Scenario, finish Izumi vs. Archer, not to mention put resolution to Wrath's situation regarding the Mother [note: The reason why I say this is because they've been kicking his confusion around as a character developement tool for a while now so it'd be stupid to not show his resolution or just plain end to it], and wrap up the Philospher's Stone and Al scenario.

... this is why there's a movie.
Guest again
QUOTE(RolfKaese @ Sep 18 2004, 04:56 PM)
and again they were too scared to put the "Hakenkreuz" onto the zeppelins.. >_>

I though the "hakenkreuz" were used for the party of an "evil" guy that was named Chancelor of Germany in 1933 (or 1936) by Hindenburg so I guess 1916 is a bit early to see the "Hakenkreuz"(or Swastika)...Well you are German but during the WW1, the symbol we see on the zeppelins are those of the Kaiser Wilhelm II of Prussia, correct me if I am wrong...maybe it is the fnasubs translations of Daisoto to "Fuhrer" that is confusing.
Carnal Malefactor
QUOTE(Kodachrome @ Sep 18 2004, 08:39 PM)
QUOTE(RolfKaese @ Sep 18 2004, 07:26 PM)
nah, koda.. too early to judge ^^ early lol 2 episodes left XD

Ok, let me rephrase this...

They have TWO EPISODES to kill the remaining homunculi, defeat Dante, explain to Ed and Al Dante's involvement IN the story, explain the real world and the other side of the gate, wrap up things in the military - Roy's Scenario and Armstrong's Scenario, finish Izumi vs. Archer, not to mention put resolution to Wrath's situation regarding the Mother [note: The reason why I say this is because they've been kicking his confusion around as a character developement tool for a while now so it'd be stupid to not show his resolution or just plain end to it], and wrap up the Philospher's Stone and Al scenario.

... this is why there's a movie.

Correction: They have two episodes AND the feature-length film.

I'm not losing faith just yet, but throwing all these bizarre plot twists at you at the very end of the series means that the writers either smoked some goooooood hash, or just couldn't figure out a way to end it otherwise without making it totally cliché and predictable.
REEPER
don't know if it was an edit but he did say at the end of his post that certain things can only be resolved in the movie
odoridan
Is this the first time we see Gluttony's (huge) ass? biggrin.gif

I had always assumed Al was gonig to die long ago. But my crack fueled ideas never seem to turn out correct. wacko.gif

It seems more and more likely the show will end without finishing everything up and let the movie tie all the loose ends together. Is Archer really going to come back and "get resolved" in the last 2 episodes?
Netabare
QUOTE(Kodachrome @ Sep 18 2004, 08:39 PM)
QUOTE(RolfKaese @ Sep 18 2004, 07:26 PM)
nah, koda.. too early to judge ^^ early lol 2 episodes left XD

Ok, let me rephrase this...

They have TWO EPISODES to kill the remaining homunculi, defeat Dante, explain to Ed and Al Dante's involvement IN the story, explain the real world and the other side of the gate, wrap up things in the military - Roy's Scenario and Armstrong's Scenario, finish Izumi vs. Archer, not to mention put resolution to Wrath's situation regarding the Mother [note: The reason why I say this is because they've been kicking his confusion around as a character developement tool for a while now so it'd be stupid to not show his resolution or just plain end to it], and wrap up the Philospher's Stone and Al scenario.

... this is why there's a movie.

I think they "kindly" will give us enough days to interprit
the tv series and to prepare to accept more shocking plot in movie.....

I've done so with Rahxephon......
...
Jesus, and I thought it couldn't get any worse than ROBOARCHER.

What a way to turn a once great series into shit.

Fuck you, BONES.
Sian
QUOTE(What @ no bacon?,Sep 18 2004, 08:39 PM)
Correction: They have two episodes AND the feature-length film.


Unfortunately I also think we'll have to wait for the movie to tie up loose ends. And even if said loose ends are tied up well, using a movie to finish what should have been finished in the episodes seems cheap. I have much more respect for a series that can stand alone, and whose movie+oav appendices are merely nice bonuses.
Sian
And, err, sorta-bright side for the dissatisfied: There's always the manga.
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QUOTE(Sian @ Sep 18 2004, 10:23 PM)
And, err, sorta-bright side for the dissatisfied: There's always the manga.

That's gone to shit recently -- the latest chapters kind of are pulling the same cheap tricks the anime is, too. :/
Sian
What kind of tricks? If you're talking about all the grandstanding and swashbuckling that's been going on in the past few chapters, I think I see what you mean, though admittedly I and the other 1937629176394912 Roy/Riza fangirls have been getting fantastic kicks out of 37-39. In terms of general plot the manga seems more cohesive and expansive than the anime, and there are no German zeppelins. (So far?)
rsF
I just realized how incredibly pretty Rose is...been looking too much at Riza and Winry...a little Lust...and some Izumi...not enough Rose...
storm_trooper
QUOTE(... @ Sep 18 2004, 10:19 PM)
Jesus, and I thought it couldn't get any worse than ROBOARCHER.

What a way to turn a once great series into shit.

Fuck you, BONES.

This was the WORST Episode EVER!!!

Special Effect Anime
Before we can even talk about the plot going to hell in a hand basket. What was up with the spinning anime & distorted views of Ed & Dante? It looked like a surrealist on crack. Even if the subliminal message is about another dimension, they should have left the special effects alone.

Plot???
Why did Archer run away from the soliders when they started shooting at him and his crew? He's RobArcher. His mouth is a gun but he runs like he is throwing paperclips at the his opponents.

The Mighty Gluttony knocks over a lamp on the floor and no fire.

Envy stops Wrath from using Alchemy by putting his foot on his arm?

I am at a loss. I have been hanging in here with the series from the beginning. I dont see any hope for a happy ending, sane ending or reasonable ending.
...
QUOTE(Sian @ Sep 18 2004, 11:12 PM)
there are no German zeppelins. (So far?)

That's a big plus.

I mean, what kind of irks me about FMA is how disposable everyone is. I mean, I guess it's realistic, but... eh, I hate getting attached to characters and then having them die. It makes me crazy. And the recent chapters have been pulling that kind of tease like "omg!!!! rizas dead except not" "omg!!!! havocs dead except maybe" "omg!!!! lust is ded" "omg!!!!!!11onetwo" etc. :/
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