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Full Metal Elf
Ok...so the version I have seen so far is not subtitled...sooooo...I have no idea what anyone was talking about, lol. But, I LOVED it!!!!!!!! I cannot WAIT to see it dubbed for Subtitled!!!! I loved the end and such, but I think I can give it a better rating when i know what is being said throughout it wink.gif


(I loved seeing Roy again!!! I <3 Roy wink.gif)
Jacen
I didnt like the ending...

he even regrets his decision after he arrives back in germany.

I still however think that there might be just a little room for another series, however after seeing the movie i think the chance of that is .000000001 percent.
Full Metal Elf
I think there could be more. They could have another movie, but if they do...........they better do it well!! wink.gif happy.gif
Jellybean
QUOTE(Tombow @ Oct 7 2005, 05:42 PM) [snapback]297064[/snapback]

Now, about Ed's super-hero stunts...
I'm glad this was bought up, because I notied that also.
I agree and understand that, as TheVileOne posted, the Fma anime series had lots of those unrealistic moments, so I might accept those as well, but somehow those unrealistic stunts stuck out like a "cartoon moments" in otherwise nicely flowing movie stroy-line that incorported real life history so well, and spelled out the story in nicely done quality animation, that I was able to get into the movie's semi "real-ness" very well. Then came those stunt moments... rolleyes.gif
Yeah, like that jumping off the plane and flying through the window scene.
I was like, oh, no, Ed, what are you doing??!! ohmy.gif
Then, moments later, he gets up like nothing'd happened... blink.gif


That's a good way to put it. Just seemed inconsistant with the mood of the movie. Besides, in the anime, Ed's frequently bleeding and bruised and looking like hell (in serious fights I mean, not after Winry's comic relief wrench throwing) and he's been walking around covered in blood and bandages for the past five or so chapters of the manga. I don't mean to nit-pick either, it just struck me as funny. I was watching it with a friend the other day, and when we got to the window part, she starts humming the Batman theme and I freaking cracked up. laugh.gif Ed's just reckless as hell.

Speaking of which, this friend hated the ending and I loved it, so we got into this huge arguement about whether or not it was actually necessary to destroy both gates. She thinks that destroying the Amestris gate should suffice, and I tried to tell her that the first wave of armor guys came through without that gate open, and she asked why they both had to be open anyway, and..... well, neither of us really knows what we're talking about, so we gave up on the arguement. Did anyone else understand that whole gate concept any better than we did, or should we just try not to think about it?
TheVileOne
Both gates have to be destroyed to make sure no one can ever get through and cause trouble again. They did it to make sure that both worlds would be protected.
Full Metal Elf
True....sucks that they were destroyed, so does that mean that they can't do Alchemy in the Hangern (sp?) world?? sad.gif...lol


And I want to know what happens with Roy!!!! happy.gif
Tombow
@Jellybean - Batman theme!! laugh.gif I love your friend's sense of humor!! happy.gif

QUOTE(Full Metal Elf @ Oct 11 2005, 09:36 AM) [snapback]298578[/snapback]

True....sucks that they were destroyed, so does that mean that they can't do Alchemy in the Hangern (sp?) world?? sad.gif...lol

@Full Metal Elf -There are two worlds in the movie as you saw, Hagaren world, and our kind of world except it's in pre-WWII Germany.
Al and Ed, or anyone for that matter, can't perform alchemy in our kind of world.
They have to be in the Hagaren world to be able to perform alchemy, if that's your question.
One exception is, opening of the gate itself, I guess.

And, no they can't go back to the Hagaren world once those gate(s) are destroyed.
In the movie, it's implyed that Ed and Al would destroy the gate in Gerrmany, and Mustang would destroy the other one in the Hagaren world.


Unless, there are more gates present elsewhere.... ohmy.gif

I'm still not completely clear about the whole gate business in the movie.
Anyones' theories or insights would be much appreciated!! happy.gif
Jellybean
I thought that when they said they would "destroy" the gates, they actually meant that they would close the doorways that they had opened and destroy the arrays, not that they would destroy the passageway/connection between the two worlds itself. Full Metal Elf makes a good point though. If they really did destroy the Gate itself somehow, that would mean that alchemy wouldn't work on Amestris' side, since Hohenheim said that alchemy was fueled by lives from Europe's side. It doesn't seem like they should be capable of doing that, though.
Also, Mustang said something about Lior and Central having something in common when he was on the phone with Winry (also, those were the two places where earthquakes occured). Is it that those were the two places where the philosopher's stone was created?
Tombow
QUOTE(Jellybean @ Oct 11 2005, 07:47 PM) [snapback]298809[/snapback]

I thought that when they said they would "destroy" the gates, they actually meant that they would close the doorways that they had opened and destroy the arrays, not that they would destroy the passageway/connection between the two worlds itself. Full Metal Elf makes a good point though. If they really did destroy the Gate itself somehow, that would mean that alchemy wouldn't work on Amestris' side, since Hohenheim said that alchemy was fueled by lives from Europe's side. It doesn't seem like they should be capable of doing that, though....

I believe that's correct. Unless, they'd learn to utilize other energy sources that are present in Hagaren world. Or, use Philosopher's stone, in a sense, like a battery.
I also agree that Ed can destroy the gate(s), but he's probably not powerful enough to destroy the connection itself. ...I don't even know if that's possible, or, if so what it takes to destroy the connection once and for all???
Full Metal Elf
QUOTE(Tombow @ Oct 11 2005, 06:00 PM) [snapback]298712[/snapback]

@Jellybean - Batman theme!! laugh.gif I love your friend's sense of humor!! happy.gif

QUOTE(Full Metal Elf @ Oct 11 2005, 09:36 AM) [snapback]298578[/snapback]

True....sucks that they were destroyed, so does that mean that they can't do Alchemy in the Hangern (sp?) world?? sad.gif...lol

@Full Metal Elf -There are two worlds in the movie as you saw, Hagaren world, and our kind of world except it's in pre-WWII Germany.
Al and Ed, or anyone for that matter, can't perform alchemy in our kind of world.
They have to be in the Hagaren world to be able to perform alchemy, if that's your question.
One exception is, opening of the gate itself, I guess.



What I meant was that Hohenheim said that Alchemy used energy from that other world...so if the gate was destroyed, could those in the Hangaren world still use Alchemy?
Tombow
@Full Metal Elf - yeah, I thought that might be what you meant, too.
And, I agree with you and Jellybean that since the use of alchemy in the Hagaren world had been made possible by drawing necessary energy from our world, once the energy source is cut off they can't use alchemy.
I suppose it could be like when we have a black out. biggrin.gif

So, my thinking goes, could it still be possible if alchemists in Hagaren world would adopt and learn to utilize other energy sources existing in the Hagaren world... solar power, etc., as long as the amount of energy consumed would not tip the overall balance of nature in the Hagaren world??
Or, carry some sort of stored power device with them, aka battery, also the nasty example of this being the Philosopher stone??

Or, does it have to be the special type of energy, and that's available only as the form (kind of yak, come to thnk of it) from our world?

And, all that is with the BIG if, that if anyone is ever able to cut off the tie between the two world.
I guess that might be like making a change in a structure of Universe somewhere, and probably take a huge amount of power and stuff. happy.gif
Dusha
If the gate is closed/destroyed, does that mean that there is a growing amount of latent dead-people energy piling up in our world? Considering the fact that our world (in the show) is on the cusp of WWII, you'd think that 40 million dead people's worth of energy (and that's a conservative estimate) which used to have an outlet into the Hagaren world would wreak havoc if it stayed around. Someone earlier (I don't remember who) I think made a comment about balance between the two worlds. Perhaps the transfer of energy is necessary for the equilibrium of our own world and the Hagaren world just gets the happy bonus of being able to use alchemy.

I guess my question, in a nutshell, is this: If energy from our world can't be transfered away any more, where does it go?
Tombow
Good question. happy.gif
Can we convert it, and use in our hybrid cars?? (just kiddin') tongue.gif
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