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"It's stupid and is meant for kids." I hate when people say that because in most cases they never watched anime and if they did they are most likely thinking about Pokemon or something stupid like that. Others say that they do not understand Japanese nor do they want to read subtitles. Others think that it is nothing more than a cartoon. Yeah a cartoon with blood and violence, at least with many of the different anime.
That One Dude
"It's perverted," "The japanese are crazy and weird, obviously so are their shows..." *headdesk*
Precis
I've heard a few stupid comments, but these take the cake:

"Why do you read retarded backwards books?"
"Why do you watch Japanese stuff if you're not Japanese?"
"There's no storyline." or "The story is impossibe to understand."

I mean, really. People don't even give anime/manga a chance and just dismiss it as crap. D:

...Luckily I also have friends who actually appreciate it. happy.gif
Meitantei Conan
lol,

They are for Kids, They are Just Cartoons.

Mm, Anime, are Mostly Made For All Ages, Kids to Adults.

Pokemon- Kids
Fullmetal Alchemist- Teen and Adults
Case Closed- Adult teen to Adults
Afro Samurai- Adults Only

Even Sameul L Jackson Like anime, he said So him Self, he Like manga as well, Thats Why he Got the role of Afro samurai, and Ninja Ninja Of the Show Afro Samurai.
AA battery
It's childish. =_=;

When my friend ask me what song I like to sing, I answered J-pop, but mostly those from anime, and she immediately said "So something like Doraemon's theme song?" - I almost slapped her. =_=
wssarrow
I used to know someone who refused to watch anime because Pokemon is an anime. Using one anime to justify not watching all of them is one of my least favorite "I hate anime" excuses. >_>
Little Washu
Usually people catch it during the opening theme and ask me "You can't even understand what they're saying do you?" Or, they say all the characters look exactly the same. And once someone said they all have the same voices when I was watching Lucky Star in Japanese.

Heh, I just watched this documentary on anime with my mom's boyfriend that was on tv. Lemme just tell you, he was REALLY surprised at how anime influenced the American culture and what not. I wanna find and record that program, and show it to any person who mocks anime XD.
MaiShadowAlchemist
There are some really stupid comments for example

"I saw Teen Titans and I didnt like it" A response to the question "Have you ever seen any anime?"
"Giant eyes!! That is so weird"
"All I see is a bunch of weird monsters" "Inuyasha"
While reading manga:
"This is weird, what is wrong whit this book?? It dosent make any sense" (Perhaps it is because your are reading it the wrong way idiot!)

Toby-Chan
QUOTE(Little Washu @ Jan 3 2008, 06:37 PM) *
Heh, I just watched this documentary on anime with my mom's boyfriend that was on tv. Lemme just tell you, he was REALLY surprised at how anime influenced the American culture and what not. I wanna find and record that program, and show it to any person who mocks anime XD.



What channel was it on? I can't quite imagine a decent educational network bothering to do a documentary on anime.
Tris the Reaper
"LOL issat Yu-Gi-OH?" - In reference to an FMA shirt
"You readin' books backwards again?" - in reference to my friend reading a manga
"DIGIMON!" - in reference to seeing a Bleach icon on some site I was browsing


Most of these kids think it's all Pokemon, YGO or DBZ. One girl I know asked me why the cover was on the back, but thankfully she was honestly just curious and asking out of genuine curiosity. ^^;;;
Little Washu
QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Jan 4 2008, 05:14 PM) *
QUOTE(Little Washu @ Jan 3 2008, 06:37 PM) *
Heh, I just watched this documentary on anime with my mom's boyfriend that was on tv. Lemme just tell you, he was REALLY surprised at how anime influenced the American culture and what not. I wanna find and record that program, and show it to any person who mocks anime XD.



What channel was it on? I can't quite imagine a decent educational network bothering to do a documentary on anime.

Starz Cinema. They sometimes play anime like Saiyuki Reload. It was really cool. It showed how shows like Ghost in the Shell influenced movies like The Matrix. Some stuff on FMA, Speed Racer, and how anime is becoming part of the American culture, and then to expect anime to be around for a long time.
Shadow Wulfe
There are people that expect anime to fade out? O.o
katherand
QUOTE
-Because real people don't have big eyes like that


This is also true of religious icons used in Orthodox Christian symbols. It's meant to appeal. And some people don't like being appealed to. LOL. TOo too shocking. How dare some lil cartoon try to get to me! ohmy.gif "Real people (yeh they *are* cartoons eh?) don't have big eyes like that" wacko.gif Well no kidding?.
Petra
One of my friends told me "Because its evil".
I mean, not ALL of it is evil!
WeiS Blitz
My mom hates it because it 'isn't real'. sleep.gif;

Her favorite genre? The cheesy tv sitcom -____-;;;




The people at school have a semivalid reason: "Because (specific creepy little narutard spaz who WILL STALK YOU IF YOU MENTION ANYTHING REMOTELY ASIAN IN ORIGIN ZOMG SHE'S RIGHT BEHIND ME RIGHT NOW ISN"t SHE!?!?) likes it."

If I only knew about anime through her I'd dislike it too.
~Kurenai~
When my people see me reading manga they call it 'anime porn'...

rolls eyes.
Kari_Neko
My mom hates it since I don't stop watching for hours and hours and then she yells at me to get off the computer and for the fact that I have a over active imagination so when a character or something dies I get depressed over it and then when she finds out why I'm like that she yells at me saying it's not real.
Popogeejo
QUOTE
My mom hates it since I don't stop watching for hours and hours and then she yells at me to get off the computer and for the fact that I have a over active imagination so when a character or something dies I get depressed over it and then when she finds out why I'm like that she yells at me saying it's not real.

That doesn't strike me as a stupid reason...
Project0010
My mom hates it and it pisses me off. She thinks the whole anime humor thing is retarded, in example :

AnimeGeek87
Yeah, my mom doesn't like it because "cartoons should be for kids". Which means no violence and swearing etc. I'm 20 so she really doesn't tell me I can't watch it or read manga(though I get a disapproving look at time I buy something when she's around.) Both my parents have basically accepted the fact I like "the weird Japanese cartoons". cool.gif

The funny thing is she said said that when she saw part of Spirited Away on cartoon network. She thought it was too violent and it should have been more kid friendly. (She saw the part with Haku(sp?)thrashing about and that was it).

The funny thing is by her reasoning "Family Guy" and "South Park" should be for kids too and even she knows they're not. dry.gif
Unown
When I talk about anime of show people manga, the first things they say is 'Pokémon' or 'Dragonball Z'...

Then I'm really like...Ō.ó blowup.gif raygun.gif

So they think anime is childish...

That really bothers me.
Funkyduck
My friend, who got me introduced to anime, heard someone saying that they don't like anime because it's stupid. I admit, some animes are rather stupid, but not all of them.
Mat-Mat
Ppl say to me the reasons for hating anime are......

1. It's junk TV.
2. All people who like anime are nothing but nerds.
3. They say it'll melt our brains.
4. They say it has no passion.
and 5. They say it's childish.

huh.gif Uh, it's not junk at all, we're not nerds, actually watching a lot of anime has brought up my grades from B's to A's, it has so much passion and love in so many ways, and THERE IS NO WAY THAT SOME OF THE ANIMES IN THIS WORLD ARE ANYTHING BUT CHILDISH (well sometimes...) mad.gif

And, if they keep saying that I'm wrong about anime, and list to me the reasons listed above, then I guess I watch junk t.v., I'm a nerd, I have a melted brain, I have no passion, and I'll never grow up!!! cool.gif

I'M SICK OF THE PEOPLE WHO KEEP SAYING THAT ANIME IS NOTHING BUT CRAP IN THIS WORLD!!!!!!!! angry.gif
Kat13
My mom's reason is that there is cussing and violence
angelstar2408
My mom hates it because it's bad influence and it's nonsense.... They even tell me that it's a waste of money.....

Then whenever my bitchy cousins would visit and they see me watching anime they'd tell me that I'm tomboy because anime is just for guys and it's stupid..... Then they'll start lecturing me and tell me I'm 13 years old for god's sake... ughh... Anime is for all ages for crying out loud! like hell! I want to punch them in the face! Why would anime only be for boys?! gosh...how stupid of them.... and it's not a bad influence.... The influence will always depend on the person watching..... dry.gif angry.gif
Forsaken Love
I hate how everyone I know nearly associates all anime with pokemon, yu gi oh and other crappy 4kidz dubs, rather than seeing them as a spezilized genre. Iīd hardly say mary poppins and Saw the same because they are both life action. Iīd like to see a kid watch elfen lied XD haha same thing no? Then there are complaints abour the designs, the eys and stuff, and i nearly strangled my friend when she said that people who draw manga have no talent because a baby could draw the drawings, which is completly untrue and ignorant because manga is insanley difficult to draw, i challanged her to draw a single image perfectly at which she made an excuse not to, lol
FMAobsessed
@Forsaken Love: No one I know has ever said manga and anime is easy to draw. I agree that manga is insanely difficult to draw. And it does not look like a baby drew it. When I have to draw a person I usually make it look anime or manga style. Just not as good as the professionals though.

Yes, it is annoying for people to think that only Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh define the anime genre. I guess people don't know the variety of anime that is in Japan.
xXdark_angel_nekoXx
QUOTE (Forsaken Love @ Jul 3 2009, 07:37 AM) *
I hate how everyone I know nearly associates all anime with pokemon, yu gi oh and other crappy 4kidz dubs, rather than seeing them as a spezilized genre.



me too and on top of that i really grinds my gears when people think or even say that anime is a cartoon. no there is a difference. a really big one. onless cartoons start to show graphic images that are not meant for 8 year old.
Forsaken Love
^agree that really annoys me too, they arn't 'cartoons' i really dislike that term, its not just japanese animation i don't class as 'cartoons' either, westan stuff for older audiances such as the simpsons and even animated family films, i call them 'animation' or 'animated films' rather than cartoons, which i tend to associate with a crappy badly animated 10-15min for little kids

lol tom and jerry is a pretty violent cartoon hahaha XD
kkg22104
The definition of "cartoon" for me is like the stuff you see on Saturday mornings, or the animated crap shows that Disney Channel makes. Anime is definitely NOT the same as cartoons.
Forsaken Love
ye agree ^ for me i would say that cartoons are a subsection of the 'animation' genre, anime is another sub section, therefore they are not the same
Toby-Chan
I find that lots of people try to debase an art form's validity by saying that it's too easy, and generally these are talentless people without any experience in said art field to back it up.


Example- A photographer on Deviant Art was trying to argue that photography is more of an art form than drawing, and his arguments were that photography costs lots of money to do (cameras, developing, etc) and takes training and practice to do right, and that drawing is nothing special because he could do the same thing with a pencil and some tracing paper. Needless to say, on DA there were plenty of traditional artists there to hand his [All hail lord Xenu] to him.



The amount of people who still think that drawing is easy or that tracing could get you results that look remotely like this continues to disappoint me.



Anyway, the sheer volume of really badly drawn anime art should go to show just how not-easy it is. If it were easy then why didn't my first attempts look like this instead of this?
Right. It is an art form and as such requires years of basic artistic training and practice and specialization in developing personal style for the product to be any good at all.



(Yes, that is one of my earlier anime drawings, ~7-ish years ago. Whatever. I was 14. The good drawing is not mine, it's Yo....aka Amano's. Hell if I can paint like that.)



[ETA- Lulz, I like how the forumrobot filter took the 's h i t' out of Yo shi taka's name?
Haru0496
design character, if it seems weird for me, i dont like it.. dry.gif
dion-fortune
well, the reasons are pretty same
-itīs for kids
-itīs chinese (japanese goddammit)
-itīs like pokemon
-itīs not real (because tv shows and movies are, right?)

and so on.... Mostly I get iritated when my mom starts arguing that chinese itīs the same as japenese.... itīs not, for god sake.
Forsaken Love
gah it annoys me like hell when people say chinease and japanese are the same, and when they branch off into how the languages are 'identical' and then try to imitate what they think is a sterotypical chinease accent (which in most cases i just take as ignorant and racist tbh) spoken japanese could not be more different from chinease, french and english are completley different but they are very similar comparing them to chinease and japanese, as far as this relates to anime, people who make assumptions like they know everything about everything piss me off
Full-Fledged Alchemist
I think the dumbest reason I ever heard was "All it is is a cartoon with bad lip syncing." Seriously?

Personally, I like the dubs better because I don't like reading subs and some Japanese VAs are really annoying...

I was fortunate enough to get my mom WAY into anime, so she loves it as much as me and watches it with me when she has time, and even offers to take me to ACEN every year. Not to mention she's willing to go all out for my cosplays...
EniviD EiraM
anime haters would usually go :



"anime is so so childish , eew !"


what the ? they're more childish to go eew like that ! >:l

KwiatekAlchemist
The dumbest reasons I have ever heard: (from two different bitches that go to my school)

"The names and titles of anime are so weird and effed up!!"

"Only losers and freaks watch anime"

I also really hate how some people trash talk about an anime show that they have never seen before.
It makes me so mad. D<
kazare
I had overcome many STUPID (the way they look at my point of view. rolleyes.gif )
1. There are no CUTE or HANDSOME guys there.
2. I can't seem to understand the story.
3. It looks like a cartoon . . .
4. It's so complicated?
5. I am well not stupidly interested. . .



I had overcome many STUPID (the way they look at my point of view. :rolleyes: )
1. There are no CUTE or HANDSOME guys there.
2. I can't seem to understand the story.
3. It looks like a cartoon .
EniviD EiraM
add this up :

people hate anime because they are ENVIOUS !"


puh-leez ... what else would it be ?!


smile.gif



The Copycat Alchemist
"The story isn't anywhere close to realistic."

"The Science isn't real!"

"Pokemon is for Nerds"

"YuGiOh is stupid and anyone who watches anime are freaks."


Alrighty... First off, We all have our own opinions on tv right? Why are people who like Pokemon or YuGiOh suddenly nerds for their preference? And how is liking anime make Otakus freaks? If people are that close minded they need a reality check.. sad.gif


Second thing... Anime isn't real? That's the freaking point! >< Anime can Be real but it's not always close to the truth. For example, Ouran High School Host Club. It's not made up of demons and magic, it's a bunch of high school students entertaining young ladies since they have too much time on their hands. Compare that with InuYasha and you won't find any resemblance except for the oblivious romance that seems to be popular in anime. ^w^;


I don't mean to rant... It's just stupid how they expect anime to be real.. or any movie for that matter.. Even horror flicks with the label 'based off a true story' aren't always right on the line of truth. If that was the way movies ran, a lot of horror movies would completely fall out of the movie genre due to boredom.
Enlistment
I get the usual "Why do you watch cartoons? They're so childish." shpiel. Hell, I was watching Conqueror of Shamballa last week, my dad came in and said
Dad: "What you watching?"
Me: "Fullmetal Alchemist"
Dad: "What's that?"
Me: "An anime"
Dad: "So it's a cartoon basically?"
Me: "...if you want. >:("

This is the same guy who tried to claim my AKIRA DVD as his own a couple of months ago.
And J-Pop... That's had to become a guilty pleasure because of how everyone talks about it.
"Why're you listening to Japanese ....? It's ....!"
Next day I put an instrumental version of the same song on...
"Huh, this is pretty good, what is it?"
"Yumemiru Tsubasa"
"Wha....?"
"That '.... Japanese song' I was listening to yesterday"
"Oh... It's still ....."
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Thalogens
'I used to like anime, but then it got too many fangirls and became way too mainstream' ...etc etc stupid person being stupid -.-

So... the only reason they hated it was because too many people liked it, and they didnt like that? That annoyed me to no end. Its like saying, yeah, thats my favourite colour, but just because you like it, I hate it now, even though I sound incredibly childish.
:/
Just because something gets popular, people, it doesnt detract from its awesomeness.
Disasterpiece
YES I HATE THAT

"It's cartoons"

ugh........my family is the worst about it. my sis thinks its cartoons and my parents think something's wrong with me., and that FMA is messed up (they happened to walk in on the "that's one sexy tattoo you got there" part with Hughes and T_T

I'll be honest, before I got into anime, I was like that. I thought anime was weird but I didn't bear a grudge. Then a pic of Roy going >_> got me curious just because, and the rest is history.
Cold-Blooded-Alchemist
I've heard some REALLY stupid reasons but this one takes the cake.

"why do you hate it so much?"

"becuase it's anime!!!!"

"and?"

"and nothing! there's no reason! it's just anime!"

so your reason for hating it is...nothing? then there's no reason to hate it! O.O
Katya Martin
"It's a cartoon, it must be for kids."
There is so much wrong with this statement that... -head explodes-

"Ehh, maybe it's not for kids, but it's still a cartoon and therefore can have no value or meaning."
Is easier to argue against than the first one, but usually requires having time to demonstrate. Pretentious and irritating.


"Ahh! Filth! It's full of panty shots and clothing damage and CORRUPTION and it's demeaning to women and you must have something wrong with you for watching it and not being RIGHTEOUSLY OUTRAGED!"
Yes because the anime that I watch are definitely full of fanservice. Look at that woman, she's obviously being horribly demeaned and exploited, never mind the full military uniform and the general's stars. She's been thrown in there for fanservice and depicted as weak and helpless and I should be ashamed that I'm supporting this sort of--
D'you have eyes? There exists lots of examples of anime that treat female characters a lot better than American shows. The shows what are all fanservice and sex appeal? Sure they exist, but I don't support them, I watch things with plot and characterization! Not all anime are the same! Are all films the same? No! Why must people stereotype so much? Which leads into...

"It's Japanese, therefore it must be full of fanservice and strange fetishes, not to mention violence and religious subversion; in short, it's not American or even European, and thus has something intrinsically wrong with it."
It saddens me because this, sometimes combined with the previous two, is my mom's response. Right, because our own culture has nothing at all wrong with it. Nope. We're American and thus better. No fanservice in our shows, nope, and no violence either. All cultures have their issues. Besides, I avoid works I think are tasteless! I'm eighteen! I think I can work out right and wrong, thanks!

Odd that complaints about anime usually hit opposite ends of the spectrum-- either it's childish or it's porn. And of course, most of them stem from "It's unfamiliar and I don't know anything about it, maybe it's even weird, and thus it must suck."
Disasterpiece
once someone new to anime sees something like Hentai and if THAT'S their first anime experience then they will never be open to anime again
Katya Martin
That may be true in some cases, but what about someone whose first experience with anime was, say, My Neighbor Totoro, and they still have that kind of attitude? I guess my point is really that cultural stereotyping's exceptionally dumb in general.
AutumnRush
'You only watch it because you fancy Japanese people and you want to seem cool to them'

That is what I got in High School..because everything had to be about relationships and the like. It annoys me just thinking about it. Any valid reason I gave was just an excuse apparently.

These were the same people using 'kiwi' instead of cute, even though they only spoke English and didn't know any other Japanese.
shanryelric
mostly when they said that "it's stupid" or "it's CARTOON"
what the fu-
cartoon is cartoon itself and anime is anime!!!!!!!! argh. stupid people is stupid -,-
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