blackrider76
Sep 25 2005, 06:33 PM
^yeah, seriosuly
cmon, al would believe a serial murderer who tried to kill him over someone who helps him and saved his life.
doesnt make sense
TheVileOne
Sep 25 2005, 09:18 PM
QUOTE(blackrider76 @ Sep 26 2005, 01:33 AM) [snapback]292717[/snapback]
^yeah, seriosuly
cmon, al would believe a serial murderer who tried to kill him over someone who helps him and saved his life.
doesnt make sense
Barry played to Al's fears and pains. It was clarified in earlier episodes that Al didn't even remember things from his childhood, so it made him wonder if his memories were even real. Barry just caught on to that and made Al believe it himself.
People forget that Al is still a naive young boy and prone to such things.
blackrider76
Sep 25 2005, 11:34 PM
good point
still, al should remember that barry is a serial killer that would do ANYTHING to get an opening to destroy al
TheVileOne
Sep 26 2005, 01:39 AM
QUOTE(blackrider76 @ Sep 26 2005, 06:34 AM) [snapback]292885[/snapback]
good point
still, al should remember that barry is a serial killer that would do ANYTHING to get an opening to destroy al
Maybe he should have but he was too disoriented to realize it.
Either way its not a legitimate complaint.
Fan_Alchemist
Oct 7 2005, 10:02 PM
Episode 25 was horrible for my emotions...
Episode 4 was pointless as stated beforehand.
Besides these two episodes, I love the rest of them.
Tse'yak Naidraug
Oct 9 2005, 11:42 AM
I don't really think I have to mention episode 4, but the only other episode I TRULY hate, is episode 16 (That Which Is Lost). I mean, it's even more of a filler then episode 4. It has no plot purpose WHATSOEVER. Well, except for Al being stcuk in a crate filled in a room with sheep. But that doesn't count

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TheVileOne
Oct 9 2005, 04:37 PM
QUOTE(Tse @ Oct 9 2005, 06:42 PM) [snapback]297779[/snapback]
I don't really think I have to mention episode 4, but the only other episode I TRULY hate, is episode 16 (That Which Is Lost). I mean, it's even more of a filler then episode 4. It has no plot purpose WHATSOEVER. Well, except for Al being stcuk in a crate filled in a room with sheep. But that doesn't count

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If you can say that about both episodes, then I really don't think you were paying attention.
Guest
Oct 9 2005, 05:44 PM
hehe. Actually I didn't mind ep. 4. It was one of Ed's first experiences that not all people who use Alchemny use it for good.
But I didn't really like "The Other Brothers Elric" part 1 & 2. Didn't really hold me the same way. eh.
But altogethor the whole FMA series is awsomely put togethor. I mean you look at some other series and a lot of the episodes are blah. But in FMA most of them have a purpose, no matter how small it is. And it doesnt seem like they try and cram too much or too little into one ep.
though, I guess that just me.
Guest
Oct 9 2005, 05:50 PM
Actually ep 16 had a plot going on. Sadly that is the episode I remember the least. But i do remember that yes, it had a plot. Remember the dad? And how Ed had offered to help him but the dad refused? He was pretty much saying that what he had done was his to live with, and if he took away the pain, took away the memories, that he was wronging himself and everyone, and that he couldn't just shove it into a dark cornor and forget about it, he needed to face it openly. And Ed got mad, cuz he realized things that he didn't want to embrace.
at last i think that was it...like I said I barely, barely remmber that one.
Mars
Oct 9 2005, 05:52 PM
They use Tucker so damn much...why didn't he just die. XP
Scars of love
Oct 9 2005, 06:46 PM
lol yea,i'm pretty sure tucker was talking to greed in episode 30 this past week. they use him alot. shouldn't he be in pain in that body?
TheVileOne
Oct 10 2005, 12:56 AM
QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 10 2005, 12:50 AM) [snapback]297914[/snapback]
Actually ep 16 had a plot going on. Sadly that is the episode I remember the least. But i do remember that yes, it had a plot. Remember the dad? And how Ed had offered to help him but the dad refused? He was pretty much saying that what he had done was his to live with, and if he took away the pain, took away the memories, that he was wronging himself and everyone, and that he couldn't just shove it into a dark cornor and forget about it, he needed to face it openly. And Ed got mad, cuz he realized things that he didn't want to embrace.
at last i think that was it...like I said I barely, barely remmber that one.
Exactly.
But not just that, Ed found out that Scar was the one who killed Nina. And Scar also found out that the Elric brothers were going to the Central library where he was going to have to go and pursue them next.
Guest_strawberryshampoo_*
Oct 12 2005, 07:44 PM
(Is too lazy to log in.)
Out of all of the episodes I would have to agree with the majority vote and say episode 4. That was the only episode that I didn't love. (I don't hate it). I can find a plot helper in every episode. It took me a while to find it in 4 and to understand how everything fit together. (i.e Ed's headache, Clause's clothes... Finally realized what was with them.)
IMHO All of the episodes have some meaning and/or purpose, but the show is so well written that it takes a bit of thinking to understand it. Also some of the episodes that people say were boring or pointless really do help to show just how human Ed and Al are despite the situations they're in. Some of the episodes exploit their strenghts and weaknesses which I find is really good to do in a show and it really helps you connect to the character. If they were to take all of those episodes out you would lose a bit of the character(s) personality traits. Like I said this is all my opinion. Don't kill me please.
Jellybean
Oct 12 2005, 08:04 PM
That family in episode 16 bothered me. The guy was alright, despite all the wallowing in self-pity, but the son was running off to kill the neighbors and the little girl was stealing prosthetic limbs. o_O What's wrong with these people?
However, the episode was worth it just because of Al and the sheep. That me-e-e-eh always makes me giggle. Al is too cute.
lialiakicks
Oct 12 2005, 08:24 PM
Er, the episodes that I don't like so much didn't even air yet. >_>
Well, here it is (SPOILERS FOO!!!)
[spoiler]The episodes about Al's kidnapping and Greed's gang. I dunno, but I wasn't very interested in those episodes at all. I ended up liking Martel during those episodes, but that was all. >_>[/spoiler]
Carnal Malefactor
Oct 12 2005, 08:25 PM
QUOTE(Jellybean @ Oct 12 2005, 11:04 PM) [snapback]299370[/snapback]
That family in episode 16 bothered me. The guy was alright, despite all the wallowing in self-pity, but the son was running off to kill the neighbors and the little girl was stealing prosthetic limbs. o_O What's wrong with these people?
I'm guessing Amestris doesn't have a Dr. Phil.
Winry The Alchemist
Oct 12 2005, 08:45 PM
There is no worst, bad, or ok HELLO People its "FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST" the best most awesome anime no wait show EVER in A millon billon years
Carnal Malefactor
Oct 12 2005, 08:48 PM
QUOTE(Winry The Alchemist @ Oct 12 2005, 11:45 PM) [snapback]299431[/snapback]
There is no worst, bad, or ok HELLO People its "FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST" the best most awesome anime no wait show EVER in A millon billon years
wow... you need ritalin... Or just a nice blow to the head with a large, blunt object.
Winry The Alchemist
Oct 12 2005, 10:18 PM
dang!!!!!! i was just telling the truth
Kyros
Oct 12 2005, 10:24 PM
*gets steel flail* I don't really know what the saddest episode on tv's been so far, but I do think that the one with the guy that thought his lover died years back in a carriage accident was sad. He kept making dolls of her, and when she showed up and told him she was still alive he went crazy and died
Tombow
Oct 12 2005, 10:35 PM
QUOTE(Kyros @ Oct 13 2005, 12:24 AM) [snapback]299477[/snapback]
*gets steel flail* I don't really know what the saddest episode on tv's been so far, but I do think that the one with the guy that thought his lover died years back in a carriage accident was sad. He kept making dolls of her, and when she showed up and told him she was still alive he went crazy and died

That's episode 4, and that happen to be the one episode I don't care much among all Fma episodes.
If that weren't aired in fairly begining of the series, I would have called it a filler episode.
TheVileOne
Oct 14 2005, 12:36 AM
QUOTE(Winry The Alchemist @ Oct 13 2005, 03:45 AM) [snapback]299431[/snapback]
There is no worst, bad, or ok HELLO People its "FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST" the best most awesome anime no wait show EVER in A millon billon years
I agree with this post 100%

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Kyros
Oct 14 2005, 12:51 AM
It's not the best >.> Sure it's good and all, but I prefer kenshin over this, but I guess it's close. Cowboy Bebop's pretty awesome too, and so are most of the Gundam series
TheVileOne
Oct 14 2005, 01:43 AM
Kenshin could never hope to be as good as FMA.
FMA > Kenshin.
Its close but also, FMA > Cowboy Bebop. Both of which were done by Studio Bones.
StrawberryShampoo
Oct 14 2005, 03:57 PM
I think that Saint Seiya is better than FMA but that's just my opinion.
Back on topic....eppie four is still one of my least favorites....As I said before...
Kirara
Oct 14 2005, 09:34 PM
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Its close but also, FMA > Cowboy Bebop. Both of which were done by Studio Bones.
I believe only the Cowboy Bebop movie was done by Studio Bones.
But back on topic I like something aboyt every episode but like others my least favorite was episode 4. I didn't like how Ed killed someone in this episode. I don't think this fit his character at all. I also am not too fond of episode 10 and 35 and I didn't like the resolution of episode 11 and 12. because I think things ended to well. Although I do love the very end of episode 12 when Ed realizes Russell is a year younger than him, classic scene.
TheVileOne
Oct 14 2005, 10:10 PM
QUOTE(Kirara @ Oct 15 2005, 04:34 AM) [snapback]300542[/snapback]
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Its close but also, FMA > Cowboy Bebop. Both of which were done by Studio Bones.
I believe only the Cowboy Bebop movie was done by Studio Bones.
But back on topic I like something aboyt every episode but like others my least favorite was episode 4. I didn't like how Ed killed someone in this episode. I don't think this fit his character at all. I also am not too fond of episode 10 and 35 and I didn't like the resolution of episode 11 and 12. because I think things ended to well. Although I do love the very end of episode 12 when Ed realizes Russell is a year younger than him, classic scene.

Ed didn't want to do it, but it was a split second moment of self defense. He didn't intend to kill Mahjhal, he was just trying to stop him. He did basically kill him but it wasn't intentional
I thought episode 10 was great and I always wanted to see Psiren again.
Tombow
Oct 15 2005, 03:59 AM
QUOTE(TheVileOne @ Oct 15 2005, 12:10 AM) [snapback]300558[/snapback]
I thought episode 10 was great and I always wanted to see Psiren again.
Me, too.
I thought Psiren was one of under utilised charactors of the series.
Kirara
Oct 16 2005, 04:13 PM
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Ed didn't want to do it, but it was a split second moment of self defense. He didn't end to kill Mahjhal, he was just trying to stop him. He did basically kill him but it wasn't intentional
I realize they bring this up again and Ed was upset by it. However in my opinion it was still the wrong moment to have Ed kill someone. And also Ed wasn't really upset by this kill until a later episode when he should have been more upset at the moment. Just my opinion.
And though there are some funny moments in episode 10 as a whole I just didn't think it was as good as the other episodes.
Pamster
Oct 16 2005, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(SilverHawk @ Sep 5 2005, 01:35 AM)
QUOTE(TheVileOne @ Sep 4 2005, 04:43 PM)
I actually like episode 4. Episode 10 especially.
Every episode is signficant IMHO because they are all just part of Ed and Al's journey together.
Couldn't agree more. Besides, 10 is hilarious, how can you guys hate it?

[snapback]274107[/snapback]
They are miserable haterz

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10 is actually one of my favorites.
People who call FMA filler have obviously never watched Inuyasha or Naruto

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I love ep 10 too. I didn't mind ep 4 that much because of how Ed was forced to defend himself against a psychotic madman, but ep 23, Heart of Steel just feels wrong to me. Al seems so out of character to me in it. In the manga they deall with this better and I think it would have been better with a touch of the emotion the manga got across about this situation, especially Winry's involvement. I think 23 is my least favorite ep. And even though Hughes dies in 25 he was damn cool and I like that eppie too. Just another reason to hate Envy.
Tombow
Oct 16 2005, 11:47 PM
QUOTE(Pamster @ Oct 16 2005, 06:42 PM) [snapback]300645[/snapback]
I love ep 10 too..... ....ep 23, Heart of Steel just feels wrong to me. Al seems so out of character to me in it. In the manga they deall with this better and I think it would have been better with a touch of the emotion the manga got across about this situation, especially Winry's involvement. I think 23 is my least favorite ep. And even though Hughes dies in 25 he was damn cool and I like that eppie too. Just another reason to hate Envy.

I agree about ep 23. Stepping aside all those "which is better, manga? or anime?" arguments that seems to recur often on this board, I liked the way manga treated Al's self-doubt/identity-crises story better. It felt more "natural" and convincing to me.
And, I liked ep 10. Psiren was interesting character (in a favorable way), and good looking, too.
Guest
Oct 18 2005, 02:43 PM
If episode 26 is the one I'm thinking of, it blows. AS I recall it's rather pointless, and considering it's directly after one of the most depressing episodes in the series, it's somehow just.... offensive.
Guest
Oct 18 2005, 08:49 PM
[quote name='Kirara' date='Oct 14 2005, 09:34 PM' post='300542']
[quote] and I didn't like the resolution of episode 11 and 12. because I think things ended to well.[/quote]
What I disliked about it was them suddenly giving Ed way too much power for the purposes of resolving an episode's plot quickly. It's strange to see him manipulating the topography of a large piece of land in one episode, only to see him go back to simlply turning his arm into a sword in subsequent predicaments. It seems inconsistent to me.
Jellybean
Oct 19 2005, 09:24 PM
I agree about episode 23, too. The manga was so much better. The anime version seemed a little overdone, and the thing with those Ishbalan kids and Barry and all seemed a little forced. Besides, in the manga, Winry got to beat some sense into Al with her wrench of doooom.
TheVileOne
Oct 19 2005, 11:36 PM
QUOTE(Kirara @ Oct 16 2005, 11:13 PM) [snapback]300613[/snapback]
I realize they bring this up again and Ed was upset by it. However in my opinion it was still the wrong moment to have Ed kill someone. And also Ed wasn't really upset by this kill until a later episode when he should have been more upset at the moment. Just my opinion.
And though there are some funny moments in episode 10 as a whole I just didn't think it was as good as the other episodes.
That happens sometimes. We do things and we don't feel the effects or the guilt of what we do until later on. It was pertinent to be brought up later because Ed killed Greed in cold blood. And somewhat needlessly because Greed had already freed Al. Ed realized that Greed was trying to teach him that there would be times ahead where he would HAVE to kill in order to surive and do what was necessary. Just more symbolism of good writing and GREAT storytelling.
There was nothing wrong with Al's episode 23 character. Al was NOT out of character. You have to understand what he was going through. This was the CLIMAX to something the series had been building up to that moment in time. We see Al's pain, and we see what its doing to him. He truly starts to believe that he's not real. Ed didn't come clean with him when they went home, and that let Al's imagination and paranoia take over. Al's a disembodied soul in a suit of armor. His ultimate reaction was brilliantly done and then when Ed confesses to him, Al was just like "Oh...so it was just that?" Ed feels so much guilt and responsibility for what he did, he does not realize that Al is just too kind to hold a grudge against him for what happened, and that was Ed's mistake. Episode 23 and 24 are actually two of my favorites since they finally resolved a huge conflict the series was building up to for a long time.
Nepharski
Oct 22 2005, 08:33 PM
I didn't care for Episode 10, "The Phantom Theif," at all. It was occasionally funny, but for the most part unsatisfying and even a little dumb. Besides, the police inspector looks like Inspector Gadget's long-lost brother or something.
No offense to anyone who liked it, though.
Tombow
Oct 22 2005, 10:44 PM
QUOTE(Nepharski @ Oct 22 2005, 10:33 PM) [snapback]303336[/snapback]
I didn't care for Episode 10, "The Phantom Theif," at all. It was occasionally funny, but for the most part unsatisfying and even a little dumb. Besides, the police inspector looks like Inspector Gadget's long-lost brother or something.
No offense to anyone who liked it, though.
None taken.

I agree that some parts of ep 10 are quite dumb.

I still enjoyed it as a light hearted episode with lots of comic relief.
Sword Alchemist
Oct 24 2005, 01:23 PM
QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 18 2005, 02:43 PM) [snapback]301311[/snapback]
If episode 26 is the one I'm thinking of, it blows. AS I recall it's rather pointless, and considering it's directly after one of the most depressing episodes in the series, it's somehow just.... offensive.
Episode 26 had some important moments. We met Izumi for the first time (if you dont count that split second at the train station when Winry arrives in Central) Roy discovers that there are more than one suspects in the Hughes case, aand General Hakuro gives Roy the ok to transfer back to Central.
Paninya went about trying to prove that Dominique's automail was the best in the wrong way though. How is using the automail to steal from a State Alchemist going to help anyways? Why did Winry even suggest that someone use automail to steal, especially when she got so upset after learning Ed used alchemy to cheat in the automail arm wrestling match.
It was good that Dominique finally talked some real sense into Paninya at the end. It seems like Winry loses track of what the real purpose for automail is sometimes.
Qeomash
Oct 25 2005, 12:26 PM
The only episode I really don't like is Episode 4. Not only is it rather boring, but it has almost no relevance to the plot. The only thing is showing more chances for Alchemy to be bad, and the first time chronologically that Ed and Al see Lust. Beyond that, it's pointless.
TheVileOne
Oct 25 2005, 03:39 PM
How was episode 26 pointless and depressing?
I think what you people fail to realize is that NO episode of Fullmetal Alchemist is pointless.
Tse'yak Naidraug
Oct 25 2005, 06:12 PM
QUOTE(Nepharski @ Oct 22 2005, 09:33 PM) [snapback]303336[/snapback]
I didn't care for Episode 10, "The Phantom Theif," at all. It was occasionally funny, but for the most part unsatisfying and even a little dumb. Besides, the police inspector looks like Inspector Gadget's long-lost brother or something.
No offense to anyone who liked it, though.
The inspector actually reminds me off that guy from interpol in Lupin the 3rd. Lol.
Guest
Oct 26 2005, 01:23 AM
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The inspector actually reminds me off that guy from interpol in Lupin the 3rd. Lol.
I thought that same exact thing. I even wondered if it was a deliberate reference.
Wyrd_Raven
Oct 27 2005, 06:46 PM
QUOTE(Tse @ Oct 25 2005, 09:12 PM) [snapback]304355[/snapback]
The inspector actually reminds me off that guy from interpol in Lupin the 3rd. Lol.
Ditto on the Zenigata impressions. He even has the Handcuff on arm while in pursuit style as Zenigata.
Chopper Enthusiast
Oct 28 2005, 04:27 PM
Episodes 11 & 12 where boring to me.
Other than explaining the red stones, the episodes did little to progress the series.
animefangirl
Oct 28 2005, 05:11 PM
eposode 4
Chopper Enthusiast
Oct 29 2005, 01:47 PM
But...WHY-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y-Y!?
Everyone needs to start explaining their answers.
THeDaRKneSSWiThiN
Nov 2 2005, 10:37 PM
I didn't really Like "The Phantom Theif" it seemed to me that Psiren was a little too friendly with Ed....can you say pediphile? Episode 4 wasn't too bad, I guess it was just trying to make u think that human transmutation was possible blah blah blah....
Full Metal Elf
Nov 3 2005, 10:20 AM
I like most episodes...but yea, Ep. 4 wasn't my fav., but it wasn't all together bad. The Phantom Theif one I thought was just funny...didn't have anything to do with the story though

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Tombow
Nov 3 2005, 10:13 PM
QUOTE(Chopper Enthusiast @ Oct 28 2005, 05:27 PM) [snapback]305698[/snapback]
Episodes 11 & 12 where boring to me.
Other than explaining the red stones, the episodes did little to progress the series.
But I like these brothers in ep 11 and ep 12.

And,
[spoiler]They will show up later in the series again, and ep 11 and ep 12 were where we met them first.[/spoiler]
WinryRiza
Nov 4 2005, 06:05 AM
Hello!
I am new here. I have not gotten to see all the episodes yet but I have liked all of them so far.
All I can say is poor episode 4 it is really unloved.
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