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Prinz_Zoisit
i saw the 46th episode... and it is soo interesting how Lust's character develops. I knew from the beginning of the series that she is a very intelligent and matured person(and beautiful plus)

what do you think that she wants to become human even if she would hurt her homunculus clan?
she knows how beautiful "vanity" is...

Lust, I LOVE YOU!!^^
ZetaStriker
As they say, the grass is always greener on the other side. Other than that, a sense of wanting to recover what she's lost probably plays a part as well.
Kodachrome
Lust's "developement?" What "development?" Greed dies and she suddenly wonders where she's going and who she is.
Prinz_Zoisit
QUOTE(ZetaStriker @ Sep 5 2004, 06:34 AM)
As they say, the grass is always greener on the other side. Other than that, a sense of wanting to recover what she's lost probably plays a part as well.

do you mean that ed and al want to become like homunculus? i don't think so...
ZetaStriker
do you mean that ed and al want to become like homunculus? i don't think so...

Where the hell did you get that from? I neither mentioned nor implied that...
Guest
Sorry to tell you but she dies next episode T____T
Prinz_Zoisit
QUOTE(ZetaStriker @ Sep 5 2004, 05:31 PM)
Where the hell did you get that from? I neither mentioned nor implied that...

you said that the grass is always greener on the other side....

that would mean that not only lust(homunculus) wants to become human, but ed/al(human) want to become humunculi...
ZetaStriker
If you apply it to Ed and Al, then you wouldn't have to alter the explanation at all. Just change the goal to recovering their bodies.
Prinz_Zoisit
ah^^;;
wolfi1412
who's the "Wise Guy" Guest?!?!?!?!?

he told a big spoiler without using the yellow thing!!
we haven't watch it coz the sub is not out yet!!

ps: sorry if lust really wasn't killed
ps2: Prinz, I love Lust too! and always suspected that she will move to Ed's side..
Queen of the dammed
LUSTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO is so sehxy MAn!!!!! I thought I was going to turn les after I looked at her!!!! (Well Ed fixed that for me after a few Eps....)
Prinz_Zoisit
QUOTE(wolfi1412 @ Sep 6 2004, 07:46 AM)
who's the "Wise Guy" Guest?!?!?!?!?

he told a big spoiler without using the yellow thing!!
we haven't watch it coz the sub is not out yet!!

ps: sorry if lust really wasn't killed
ps2: Prinz, I love Lust too! and always suspected that she will move to Ed's side..

YEA, wolfi!!!!!!! I WAS SOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
when i read it... i immediately reported it to the webmaster... i find it terrible.. and i don't believe she'll die.......!!!!!!

grrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMN!

QUOTE
LUSTOOOOOOOOOOOOOO is so sehxy MAn!!!!! I thought I was going to turn les after I looked at her!!!! (Well Ed fixed that for me after a few Eps....)

hehe, thanks!!^^^^
Chibi Viki
sorry to tell you guys but, spoilers are allowed so... ^^;;

anyway, there's nothing new with lust wanting to become human. remember in episode 20+ when Ed meets Envy and Lust in the 5th lab? Envy told him that they'll become humans when they get the philosopher's stone, that's why they wanted him to make one.

again, another inconsistency with the story.
Prinz_Zoisit
QUOTE(Chibi Viki @ Sep 6 2004, 08:03 PM)
sorry to tell you guys but, spoilers are allowed so... ^^;;

anyway, there's nothing new with lust wanting to become human. remember in episode 20+ when Ed meets Envy and Lust in the 5th lab? Envy told him that they'll become humans when they get the philosopher's stone, that's why they wanted him to make one.

again, another inconsistency with the story.

WHAT?! SPOILERS ARE ALLOWED?!?!? YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US FROM THESE THINGS, VIKI!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad.gif mad.gif

i meant that it's something special that LUST wants to become human even IF SHE HURTS HER HOMUNCULUS CLAN!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZetaStriker
anyway, there's nothing new with lust wanting to become human. remember in episode 20+ when Ed meets Envy and Lust in the 5th lab? Envy told him that they'll become humans when they get the philosopher's stone, that's why they wanted him to make one.

again, another inconsistency with the story.


Actually, it's not. Dante did promise to make them human after she got another Philosopher's Stone. Chances are she's just lying to them, but the fact is she did say she'd do it.
Virtue
Actually it is only implied that Lust is dead. You do NOT see her fade away nor do you see Wrath striking a final blow. So it means that she could be alive.
shado
dante sed she'd do it "if she feels like it" remember? ep 44?
lust probly wants to become human because she regained all her memory from her human past life. i mean if she suddenly remembers all the feelings that come with love, wouldn't she be in tremendous pain knowing that the man she loved died for her and she can't be with him in death? she'd want to become human so she can kill herself and see him on the other side as a human being.
Chibi Viki
QUOTE(Prinz_Zoisit @ Sep 6 2004, 07:19 PM)


WHAT?! SPOILERS ARE ALLOWED?!?!? YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US FROM THESE THINGS, VIKI!!!!!!!!!!!!! mad.gif  mad.gif


*rereads forum rules*

yep, the forum rules said nothing about spoilers... besides, that spoiler is not yet confirmed. no one is sure yet if it's true or not.

and hey, we (moderators) ARE protecting you guys... from the more serious offenses like posting of lewd/pornographic pics, offensive/derogatory language towards other members, stupid no-nonsense posts/topics and such... now i'm supposed to protect you from spoilers too?

yare yare sleep.gif;; more job for me and rolfie then...
Kodachrome
QUOTE(Virtue @ Sep 6 2004, 08:54 PM)
Actually it is only implied that Lust is dead.  You do NOT see her fade away nor do you see Wrath striking a final blow.  So it means that she could be alive.

She wanted to die, to end of the confusion of her "who am I" and "where am I going" is to "become human" and die.

Ep 47:
Wrath: "Just as you wished... wasn't death the reason you wished to become human?"
Lust: *realization, grinning* "So... I wanted to die..."
wolfi1412
Wrath's still confused about why he wants to be human and stuff.. I really hate Lyla/Dante!!

about why homunculus wants to be human, it's because that's what they want since they were created.
Envious...
The more you see of Lyla and her truth intentions, the less evil the homunculus seem.

Althought Envy and Wrath may seem to be exceptions, Envy's anger is mainly an abandoment issue, while Wrath is confused about his own existance.

Lyla is the real evil here it appears...
wolfi1412
actually Dante, not Lyla.. hate her...HATE!!!
karasu
Lust was just sealed?
or is really dead?
I don't want her to die...... sad.gif
wolfi1412
still unknown..
ZetaStriker
The more you see of Lyla and her truth intentions, the less evil the homunculus seem.

Althought Envy and Wrath may seem to be exceptions, Envy's anger is mainly an abandoment issue, while Wrath is confused about his own existance.


While most of the homunculus are following that pattern, the three that seem to be exceptions to the rule now are Pride, Envy and Gluttony. Pride because he's almost working with Dante rather than under her, and Gluttony because he doesn't think twice about eating innocent people.

I disagree with you about Envy because there is no justification for doing some of the things he's done. Whether he has motives or not, he hasn't thought twice about the people he's killed.
wolfi1412
actually I agree about Envy's anger thing, he does have a really deep grudge to Hohemheim (his creator).
ZetaStriker
...so you're saying that because he dislikes his creator for abandoning him, he can go around killing people and still be considered a decent guy? It might be enough to make him a sympathetic antagonist, but don't even try to say that it justifies murder.

And before this goes any further I'd like to say I do like Envy, but he is most definitely evil.
wolfi1412
no, I mean becoz he hates his creator for abandoning their 'group', he's loyal to Dante, and then he's sort of instructed to kill, and he seems to be blinded with hate
ZetaStriker
I'll agree that those are his motivations, but they still don't make him any less evil.
Carnal Malefactor
I think Envy's just mad because he got shortchanged on clothing.
wolfi1412
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aznkilladrgn
haha on esp 47... hmm lust dies from wrath ..XP ... wrath killed her ... and then .... sloth dies next ... ohmy.gif ... and i seen esp 48 and waiting for the new esp 49... blah... i won't spoil it ^-^

there are some downloads at a link i know ohmy.gif would it be bad if i give the link? ohmy.gif
Kodachrome
QUOTE(What @ no bacon?,Sep 12 2004, 12:01 AM)
I think Envy's just mad because he got shortchanged on clothing.

Envy's jealous, DUH. ;>
Carnal Malefactor
QUOTE(Kodachrome @ Sep 12 2004, 12:21 AM)
QUOTE(What @ no bacon?,Sep 12 2004, 12:01 AM)
I think Envy's just mad because he got shortchanged on clothing.

Envy's jealous, DUH. ;>

Yah, jealous of those who don't look like teenage tranny prostitutes.
wolfi1412
I think he wants that style .. lolz..
Carnal Malefactor
QUOTE(wolfi1412 @ Sep 12 2004, 12:41 AM)
I think he wants that style .. lolz..

If that's the case [and it is], he oughtta be smacked upside the head.
wolfi1412
upside the head? :S
ZetaStriker
Am I the only one who never thought Envy looked like a girl? Sure, his body is a bit feminine, but both his voice and face always seemed like a man's to me.
Carnal Malefactor
QUOTE(ZetaStriker @ Sep 12 2004, 12:50 AM)
Am I the only one who never thought Envy looked like a girl? Sure, his body is a bit feminine, but both his voice and face always seemed like a man's to me.

You and Vael...

Do you also find Envy attractive? laugh.gif
wolfi1412
lol... he looks like a girl coz of the skirt he's wearing..
Envious...
Lol, when I first saw Envy, I was thinking "Darn, she is HAWT, she can sexorz me up anytime."

A couple minutes later, "Wait a minute, is that a guy? Nah, can't be."

Five more minutes later, "Holy heck he is a guy, my gawd."



...I have to say Envy still looks pretty good blink.gif
Ailuro
I never thought Envy was a girl. From the first time I saw him.. o_O Although I can see why he can be confused with a female. x3
wolfi1412
same here..
gugclo
Its soo rich, its like "WOOOOOOT I iZ HUMAN" *Dies* XD
Carnal Malefactor
QUOTE(Envious... @ Sep 12 2004, 03:41 AM)
Lol, when I first saw Envy, I was thinking "Darn, she is HAWT, she can sexorz me up anytime."

A couple minutes later, "Wait a minute, is that a guy?  Nah, can't be."

Five more minutes later, "Holy heck he is a guy, my gawd."



...I have to say Envy still looks pretty good  blink.gif

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Lord Odenetheus
Envy IS cute, and I never confused him with being a female either.
Guest
Oh envy you sexually confusing beast you tongue.gif
wolfi1412
lolz... maybe he doesn't know what gender he is..
Guest
Well I was just thinking, In 47 when you see envy giveing Sloth the red stone's,Dante said to Envy "you too use to look like this" Was she implying gender or how envy looked when he was first ressurtecd as a homonculus.
wolfi1412
when he was first turned into homunculi
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