Dain
Jul 13 2005, 08:42 PM
QUOTE(lialiakicks @ Jul 13 2005, 09:19 PM)
Yeah, they're talking about the FMA3 game. Sorry dude.
FMA MANGA SPOILERSAnyways, is anyone here Catholic? I heard that the Homoculi die according to the descriptions in the Catholic Bible. Envy is supposed to be frozen and Gluttony dies of frogs and maggots (or something like that). Uh, anyone know what I'm talking about...? O_<
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The seven deadly sins are not actually stated in the bible (even the Catholic Bible), it was the work of the papacy in the middle ages.
Anyway, FMA feels more Dantean than it does explicity biblical--at least in my opinion.
Saturn Stars
Jul 13 2005, 11:03 PM
Hmmm, it does not realyl feel biblical your right. But I guess it would be intresting if that was incorperated into the anime!
Gs4Life
Jul 14 2005, 09:07 AM
I'm Cathloic and all the Homoncuili die similiar to their punishments in hell.
spoilers
Greed- the punishment in hell is being dipped into boiling oil or something like that
Lust- being smothered in fire and brimestone
Gluttony- forced to eat snakes and rats
That's all i can remember, yet I never studied the punishments and read them off a website. Too strange.
Sensenic
Jul 14 2005, 09:31 AM
QUOTE(Gs4Life @ Jul 14 2005, 05:07 PM)
I'm Cathloic and all the Homoncuili die similiar to their punishments in hell.
spoilers
Greed- the punishment in hell is being dipped into boiling oil or something like that
Lust- being smothered in fire and brimestone
Gluttony- forced to eat snakes and rats
That's all i can remember, yet I never studied the punishments and read them off a website. Too strange.
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Found a page (wikipedia and google love):
Deadlysins.comIf this is true, Envy will die frozen, and Wrath
dismembered 
Now that's something I wanna see

Sloth: Thrown into a pit of snakes. This and Gluttony's seem rather difficult to bring 'em into the manga.
As for Pride, "broken on the wheel"... hmmm...
Interesting, at least
Shinobi Alchemist
Jul 14 2005, 11:15 AM
QUOTE(Reika @ Jul 13 2005, 08:01 AM)
QUOTE(Kaiko @ Jul 13 2005, 07:11 AM)
QUOTE(Reika @ Jul 12 2005, 10:36 PM)
In the manga, that we know, homunculus aren't created like in the anime, what Ed created wasn't an homunculus
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Wait, I'm confused now. So what are homunculus supposed to be in the manga? XDDD;;
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what?
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Hmm, I think they are supposed to be homunculus in the manga too...it is just that they were not created by failed human transmutations...in the manga they were created by Hohenheim.
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I'm Cathloic and all the Homoncuili die similiar to their punishments in hell.
spoilers
Greed- the punishment in hell is being dipped into boiling oil or something like that
Lust- being smothered in fire and brimestone
Gluttony- forced to eat snakes and rats
That's all i can remember, yet I never studied the punishments and read them off a website. Too strange.
Uhh...did gluttony die that way...is not even dead by the way(in the manga)
GS4Life
Jul 14 2005, 12:39 PM
^I know but if they want the bible deaths, that i what it would be.
Saturn Stars
Jul 14 2005, 01:35 PM
Yeah, and that would be very intresting, so I guess we just have to wait and see. I'm saying wait and see alot latley, for the movie, for the manga. I wish we would just know what's going to happen for everything!
TanukiFan
Jul 14 2005, 03:48 PM
If we knew what was going to happen, there would be no suspence. a story without suspence loses depth and, thus, appreciation from fans. It becomes predictable. That makes me sad.
On the other hand(Five more fingers), if there where no suspence in FMA, My blood pressure might go down a bit... that would be a good thing in my case.
If what you just said was a joke, I really can't take them right now.
I WANNA SEE PRIDE! I'm still holding out for a femail Pride. or a Pride bishie. that would be nice, but unlikely.
I also wanna READ THE NEW HARRY POTTER! %^#&!!! Be the 16th already!!!!
...Er... that was random...
...sorry...
DarkWarrior
Jul 14 2005, 03:53 PM
Wow 7 pages? >_< I don't have time to read through the whole thing, I only got up to page 4... but I need help.
I made a live journal account to view the raw, but when I click on the link, it says
Error
You are not authorized to view this protected entry.
why is that?
Saturn Stars
Jul 14 2005, 04:48 PM
He he! And it comes out in australia before! Because we are like 13 hours ahead or something. So for me it's out in about 15 hours! Yay! IT's only the 14th in America isn't it?
Shinsei Kage
Jul 14 2005, 05:49 PM
QUOTE(TanukiFan @ Jul 14 2005, 03:48 PM)
I WANNA SEE PRIDE! I'm still holding out for a femail Pride. or a Pride bishie. that would be nice, but unlikely.
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Judging from his shadowy appearance in Chapter 49, Pride won't be either of those. Sadly.
AA battery
Jul 14 2005, 08:19 PM
... wow, biblical deaths O-O Interesting points on Greed and Lust's deaths, wow...
if Gluttony's death (forced to suck up a lot of snake, rite?) can be really done in manga, then I can't wait to see how cow-sensei will produce that in manga

<b>DarkWarrior</b>: not only u need a LJ account, but u also need to JOIN the fm_alchemist community.
<b>Shinobi Alchemist</b>: but... it still wasn't STATED in the manga that father = Hohenheim, so please don't say that "Hohemheim created the Homunculus in manga" (altho that might be the true for manga) as some poor souls here are already confused and can't seperate anime from manga

;;
and it's amusingly easy to tell that who actually spent the time and heart to read the manga here and who just skimmed thru the chapter within like 3 minutes... some of the questions being asked here are just @____@ u know what I mean, lol.
It's even more amusing that some ppl didn't notice that the PS2 FMA3 game preview manga that was being thrown in the chapter was a random gag... like any girl from the series would randomly scream "I look like a female Alphonse!" ..................................... and she CAN'T be Riza because her hair was styled differently -________-;;
and yay the game is coming out in July 21 :3 Can't wait to find it in anime stores in 2 months or so xD;;
I agree with that "Pride is probably going to appear in a human form around Ed and Al and maybe the others" suggestion... or maybe cow-sensei just wanted to keep us in suspense for no specific reason xD;;
no comment on Roy xD;; poor guy, lol... It was funny tho when Gluttony sucked up that fake Roy wood block xD
not much comment on Ed taking the gun because.... he should know, in advance that he would be used as a human weapon sooner or later (I don't think he would give up being a state alchemist even after he restored their bodies) so... he shouldn't really hesitate to take that gun from Riza... he should have expected that already... I wonder if this actually foreshadows that Ed will be sent away as human weapon sometimes later? ^^;
and double thumbs up for the fast translation!
Aoko-chan
Jul 14 2005, 10:13 PM
@Armor Alchemist::what fast translation?? for CH 49??
mm.. Envy getting frozen, how would that happen .. maybe someone learns to alchemise with ice??
Zink
Jul 15 2005, 05:17 AM
I akways thought Hohen's alchemy (in the anime) had iceish qualities...
Pride has a weird glowing triangle on his cheek or something. Do we know anyone like that? I don't think so...
TanukiFan
Jul 15 2005, 05:32 AM
...Just to beat a dead horse:
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Greed- the punishment in hell is being dipped into boiling oil or something like that
Lust- being smothered in fire and brimestone
Lust and Greed DID die those ways, remember? They put Greed in the boiling pit of doom and Lust was incinerated by Roy. Gosh. Arakawa-ushi-sensei knows her stuff...
And the 'We have already seen pride' idea only works for me if
Possible Spoiler
it's that guy from the hotel Winry stays at. he is minor enough of a character to suprise us, but has consistently stayed in existence even when arakawa-ushi-sensei could have taken him away and no one would have cared. Plus, he's bald. from pride's shadow, we can tell he lacks hair.
Pride did hint that he doesn't spend alot of time around humans, though. of course, i've only seen him helping winry. I bet he is only popping up for her. I never see him doing anything else.
He also acted suprised when Al fell apart, but he could have been just acting, as to get on winry's good side.
Yeah, I'm jsut paranoid, huh?
Also, did anyone else think that horse was pride? I did. hm...
End possible spoiler
Also, Shinsei Kage, Where did you get that picture of Ed in the Envy get up? it looks like Arakawa-Ushi-Sensei drew it... Is it from an omake?
Ludovic
Jul 15 2005, 10:05 PM
QUOTE(Darklink @ Jun 27 2005, 03:59 PM)
Hey anyone know when chap. 49 will be out for us???? I asume since there is only like 51 episodes in the anime that there will be roughly 51-55 mangas? Any one know if there will be alot more mangas than the anime?
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Is there the episode 41-52 on Readmanga.com
plz reply
sunshinegirl7
Jul 16 2005, 04:06 PM
QUOTE(Ludovic @ Jul 15 2005, 10:05 PM)
QUOTE(Darklink @ Jun 27 2005, 03:59 PM)
Hey anyone know when chap. 49 will be out for us???? I asume since there is only like 51 episodes in the anime that there will be roughly 51-55 mangas? Any one know if there will be alot more mangas than the anime?
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Is there the episode 41-52 on Readmanga.com
plz reply
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Readmanga.com doesnt have chapters 41-52.
Zink
Jul 16 2005, 05:20 PM
Particulary not 50-52, becuase they don't exist yet.
The manga, according to plans, will go far longer than just 50 issues, and is completely independent from the anime.
GS4Life
Jul 18 2005, 08:21 AM
I found alll the punishments in hell which will probably be the Homoncuili's deaths.
They're all here-
http://cuucsa.org/services/7deadlies.htmlScroll down a little and they're in the red boxes along with other info about the sin.
Anyways I have a feeling the manga will be well over 60 chapters perhaps about 100 even.
Guest
Jul 29 2005, 09:26 PM
I have a question,,, do you know when the manga translations for this chappy would be out?
Guest
Jul 30 2005, 12:34 AM
(armor-alchemist here is too lazy to login)
ehh? o_O
I downloaded the manga translation like... i dunno, within 24 hours of the offical release???
well... about the blad head part, i really don't think it matters... uh
many detective manga such as "Detective Conan" and "Kindaichi", the authors draw the suspected cultpit with a blad head or sth like that so that we, the readers, can't guess who the cultpit is by the outline of the person...
so, the cultpit can be anyone, I think.
Saturn Stars
Jul 30 2005, 01:00 AM
it is out hun, go back a couple of pages and you should find the link
Scars of love
Jul 30 2005, 09:32 PM
hun?! wtf....LOL
Gluttony looks nasty man. damn. Why did Roy have to go and piss em' off. Now they'll all end up in Gluttonys seventh stomach. Can't wait for Chapter Fiddy. I wonder if Envy and Gluttony will beat the snot out of em'. Winry should've shot Scar. screw one life doesn't equal another. a shot to the head would've probably killed him.
darkangelslayer
Jul 30 2005, 09:35 PM
I'm just happy Winry admitted that she 'fell' for Ed.
Scars of love
Jul 30 2005, 09:46 PM
I think Winry may like Al not Ed,sorry.
just kidding,please don't trample me.
Kyo_Umerio
Jul 31 2005, 09:44 AM
to be honest i could care less about Ed Al and Winry

Roy and Riza are awesome in this chapter

as always
Automne
Jul 31 2005, 02:55 PM
So do I
Kyo Umerio! So do I!

I wonder what'll happen in chap. 50...I think Envy and/Or Gluttony will die... Envy is in the top 10 fave characters though, I wonder what Arakawa-sensei will do!
Scars: Oh it would have been good (only for me of course) if she didn't have to fall for one of them!
Scars of love
Jul 31 2005, 05:18 PM
I thought it was alittle too obvisous how she would fall for Ed. I mean he is slightly more of the main character than Al and he is the oldest of the two so of course Winry was gonna pick him. It would've maybe been better if her and Al had a thing and Ed fell in love with someone else down the road.....you know like....Envy?
AA battery
Jul 31 2005, 08:23 PM
Scars of love: lol, I kinda prefer AruWin over EdoWin but to be honest I don't really care which brother Winry will end up with (kinda prefer to have an ending that doesn't say who will end up with who)
BUT YEA, ROIAI IS A MUST-BE IN THE ENDING! xD
I just bought Perfect Guidebook 2 and... well I forgot his name (my {GB 2 is in Chinese) but well, that old General in Eastern Headquarter that played chess with Roy before Roy left for Central... he is Riza's grandpa (confirmed!!) so... when that old General ask him "How about marrying my granddaughter? Make her the future Fuhrer's wife." that was refering to Riza? xD and Roy's response was well... he didn't made a promise but he also did not reject the idea so... xD yay for roiai!
Guest
Jul 31 2005, 08:30 PM
QUOTE(armor-alchemist @ Jul 31 2005, 08:23 PM)
I just bought Perfect Guidebook 2 and... well I forgot his name (my {GB 2 is in Chinese) but well, that old General in Eastern Headquarter that played chess with Roy before Roy left for Central... he is Riza's grandpa (confirmed!!) so... when that old General ask him "How about marrying my granddaughter? Make her the future Fuhrer's wife." that was refering to Riza? xD and Roy's response was well... he didn't made a promise but he also did not reject the idea so... xD yay for roiai!
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PG2 is out in Chinese?! JD (Jade Dynasty) or TongLi???
Ha! I suspected that old general was Riza's grandfather!! Looks like I'm correct
Automne
Aug 1 2005, 06:28 AM
Scars of Love: Ed...To fall in love with Envy?...You're my friend! I like you!
Envy is so much funnier and nicer than in the anime...Not as strong though! I would have liked him to kick Lanfan's ass...

I'm scared of his true form in the manga too!
I wonder how will die Gluttony...How are they gonna feed him rats and snakes?O_o
Armore alchemist: Wow yeah! Royai!!!

I MUST buy that book! This scene must be so cute!!
Saturn Stars
Aug 1 2005, 01:54 PM
Well Winry likes him and he most probably likes her. Deal with it. Ed is never going to fall for envy lol, you have your imaginations though
Sensenic
Aug 1 2005, 02:39 PM
QUOTE(armor-alchemist @ Aug 1 2005, 04:23 AM)
I just bought Perfect Guidebook 2 and... well I forgot his name (my {GB 2 is in Chinese) but well, that old General in Eastern Headquarter that played chess with Roy before Roy left for Central... he is Riza's grandpa (confirmed!!) so... when that old General ask him "How about marrying my granddaughter? Make her the future Fuhrer's wife." that was refering to Riza? xD and Roy's response was well... he didn't made a promise but he also did not reject the idea so... xD yay for roiai!
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Really?! Wow!!

QUOTE(SinLuxuria @ Aug 1 2005, 02:28 PM)
I wonder how will die Gluttony...How are they gonna feed him rats and snakes?O_o
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QUOTE(SinLuxuria @ Aug 1 2005, 02:28 PM)
Armore alchemist: Wow yeah! Royai!!!

I MUST buy that book! This scene must be so cute!!
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Nope, the scene is in the manga, when Roy and co are about to leave East Quarters (don't remember which chapter/s, tho').
BTW, where art thou from, SinLuxuria, seeing your nick's in Spanish (+ or -)
Zyric
Aug 1 2005, 07:18 PM
I was wondering, do you think Arakawa-sensei's using the biblical deaths as just a fun reference or if it's the only way for certain the Homonculus in question would die?
Red Shadow
Aug 1 2005, 08:32 PM
Biblical deaths? I missed something. Hurray for Roy and Riza! And the scene with Ed and Riza giving him a gun was very nicely done. The expression on his face; so sad. And did Envy look creepy when he was smiling as a horse or what? Shivers at the creepiness.
Senefen
Aug 3 2005, 04:44 AM
QUOTE
Envy and/Or Gluttony will die... Envy is in the top 10 fave characters though
So is Hughes!
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Biblical deaths? I missed something
I dont think it was the bible, I've got a feeling it was "dante's inferno", anyway it told of how the 7 deadly sins are punished in hell, so far the deaths of Lust and greed have matched with the punishments in the book (boiled and burnt).
Zyric
Aug 3 2005, 12:07 PM
Whoops, yes it's Dante's
Inferno. Sorry 'bout that.
Just so that this post isn't a complete waste, take the
Inferno based
Hell Test. Most of the people I've seen got the 7th level (Wrath)
Automne
Aug 3 2005, 12:43 PM
Senefen: Oh yes...I forgot! T___T So I guess my fav character is already dead! I didn't finish reading Dante's inferno! But I will read it really carefully!
Saturn Star: About the EnvyEd stuff! Even if it's my OTP, it was just a joke!

And for the EdWin stuff, I dealt with it a long time ago!
Sensenic: It was in the manga! Wow I can't wait for it! ^____^ I'm from France so I have to wait at least 3 months for the manga!
Zyric: I took the test and I got the 8th level, The Malebolge! O_o
Sensenic
Aug 3 2005, 02:10 PM
QUOTE(SinLuxuria @ Aug 3 2005, 08:43 PM)
Sensenic: It was in the manga! Wow I can't wait for it! ^____^ I'm from France so I have to wait at least 3 months for the manga!
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Actually, you can download it... from that MSN page or, since it's a rather early chapter, right from this site.

And there isn't much to it. Just an old man telling Mustang he could marry his grand-daughter and Roy giving an evasive answer (IIRC). Nothing special about it, until PGB2 tells us he's actually Riza's grandpa O_O
Senefen
Aug 4 2005, 05:51 PM
SOmeone else was saying it wasnt dante's inferno *shrug*. Cant remember what it was, its mentioned in a post some where.
Saturn Stars
Aug 5 2005, 06:16 PM
QUOTE(SinLuxuria @ Aug 4 2005, 05:13 AM)
Senefen: Oh yes...I forgot! T___T So I guess my fav character is already dead! I didn't finish reading Dante's inferno! But I will read it really carefully!
Saturn Star: About the EnvyEd stuff! Even if it's my OTP, it was just a joke!

And for the EdWin stuff, I dealt with it a long time ago!
Sensenic: It was in the manga! Wow I can't wait for it! ^____^ I'm from France so I have to wait at least 3 months for the manga!
Zyric: I took the test and I got the 8th level, The Malebolge! O_o
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Ahaha, although edxenvy gets us all going, like edxroy, it isn't realistic so it just stays in my imagination. EdxWin just really pulls does something to my heart lol
Automne
Aug 5 2005, 06:41 PM
I envy you Saturn!

I always look for complicated pairing and never like the canon ones! T___T
Zyric
Aug 6 2005, 02:15 AM
Looks like it's not Divine Comedy or Bible. It's entirely a product of the Catholic church, originally from a pope of the 6th century and then put into wide knowledge by the Church in the Middle Ages.
http://deadlysins.com/sins/history.html
Senefen
Aug 7 2005, 12:23 AM
w00t! we have a reference! Thanks, I knew I'd heard it before but couldnt remember where.
Saturn Stars
Aug 7 2005, 02:58 AM
QUOTE(SinLuxuria @ Aug 6 2005, 11:11 AM)
I envy you Saturn!

I always look for complicated pairing and never like the canon ones! T___T
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ahhh that must be hard because you would never raelly be satisfied
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