There's just something about Roy and Hughes that pulls at my angsty heart strings. With Hughes married, and Roy so devoted to helping the country... *squees*

As I've said before, Royai just seems like the most probable couple. The shared devotion, and dreams, and such. It's all... poetic, really. An attractive, determined, play-boy and his loyal, no-nonsense, but lovely protector... I'm such a fangirl. ^^;;

They pull at my heartstrings too. I've said it before that I'm just a sucker for vulnerability.

And I agree about Royai being the most probable.

I'm a supporter.

My favorite FMA pair..

I voted for "just a tad" because although I love RoyxRiza, I don't think it's the best thing in the world. The best thing in the world is EdxWinry.

I vote yes. Please dont hate me Royai fans but Im not a fan of Roy and Riza as a couple.

My one and only FMA pairrrr. The best. :] I'm obsessed with Royai.

I voted a tad. I'm a huge Roy/Ed fan, but I will read Royai, if its a good story. As for Ed/Al.. if they weren't brothers, that would probably be my fave pair, but since they are related, ew!

With Roy/Ed, the pedophelia thing could be just as much of an ew for people. I know it is for me when Ed's still 14-15 looking. If he's grown up, it can look hott, but I come across it too few times. I really do like Ed/Al minus the whole blood-relation thing. But yaoi at all in the show twists the plot a bit in one major way or another.

Hmmm, interesting. I must admit, I love the thought of Royai. But FMA isn't exactly the most "romantic" (in the relationship sense) anime out there. I think a person sorta has to do a lot of work and inferring to put together couples. The only one that I think can be sort of blatant is EdxWin, but even that's subtle. In fact, I'd say that FMA really focuses on human relationship in general, like sibling bonds, or bonds with a friend, or the bonds that we have as humans. Because even if there aren't romantic couples, there are very strong relationships.

I'm not anti any pairing really, but I do think some make stronger choices for telling the story. I'm not into pedophilia, I must admit. (That basically knocks out the RoyEd thing, unless Ed is older.) At first I thought Royai was the most probable (maybe it is) but I also wouldn't be surprised if Riza or Roy turned out to be gay. It's either that Roy hasn't tried anything with her because they just haven't gotten around to it...or he's waiting for her to give him a clue...or because he's already tried and she told him it wasn't possible...or Roy isn't the big playboy he says he is (maybe he's hiding something?) Or maybe she just doesn't find Roy that attractive, or Roy doesn't find her attractive...(my best friend's a guy and we're definitely not sexually attracted to each other) Endless amounts of possibilities!

Interesting observation! The relationships in general thing makes a lot of sense. I agree that some things seem more likely than others, but I dunno if they'd go too far out with plot twists. Do you read the manga? If so, then you know it's a different plot. Arakawa really likes to have things build little by little in her story I've found. From how she's going with it, I don't really know if she'd put in such a large plot twist like that considering the stuff she throws in there to try to keep the fans going with the idea that something is there.

Agree. I really like how subtle she is with everything, partly why I really like the manga. Leaves a lot to the imagination and reveals details about characters slowly. I would love to get inside her head to see where she's going...

I know what you mean. I personally prefer the manga (though I still love and appreciate the anime) and lately it's been getting REALLY good, so I get ancy more and more often trying to see what's going to happen next.

Sorry for the double post, but here's another piece of info to analyze a bit MiyokoChan http://www.fullmetal-alchemist.com/forums/...pic=457&st=3300 see Kasumi's post towards the bottom. I suppose I agree with her that it's a little window into the guilt he feels.

=/ I'm a Havoc/Roy/Riza, Roy/Riza, Havoc/Riza and Havoc/Roy fan. No opinion on the Royai thing.

I quite like Roy/Riza but aslong as it has Riza and one or less dudes in an act it's all good.



Genius! You have made my day....now all I need is twisted mind to scribe some fanfic. Mwahaahahahahahaha!!!

Royai is a beautiful thing!!
(Tho, I like Ling-RanFan also, but since Ling is now Gling, it gets complicated... )

Royai rocks!!!

I eat Royai for breakfast!

EDIT: ...that totally came out the wrong way XD that ^ means "I liek Royai" in english.

I love royai!!!

IDK perhaps a tad....

No offense, but I think Riza could do better, that is just my little ol' opinion....

That and....It just bugs me a little that they don't show that much affection, but I have only watched the anime and have read the manga up to volume 6 (being that is all that is released for now...) So what do I know?

But I too and writing a bit of Royai, but it is probably so bad you all will laugh at it. I am so inexperienced at writing love stories....This is really my first one.

And I am trying to stick to the series as much as possible....or something....idk....

Okay, I'm done rambling....

hawkeye and mustang all the waaaay!! at least it's a couple where they actually seem to love eachother. and... it's just too sweet, i love them so much!

Royai brightens my day!

I love RoyxRiza. RoyxRiza inspires me to help the world. When I wake up, the first thing I think about is Royai. When I go to bed, my last thought is Royai. Royai is like air to me.


I'm just kidding xD But I do like the pairing a lot


I also have a strange liking of JeanxRiza. I can't picture them in a relationship (at least while Roy's in the picture), but I can see them as more than friends.

I like this pairing. Why? Because I love both characters, and they are good together...They've had some moments, or something similar to that, but yeah....XD I just like the pairing. I'm not like 'OMFG ROYAI RULEZZZZZ!!!!11oneone11!" And such...It's just a pairng that's good.

royai!!

if roy should be paired with anyone, it should be riza, NOT ed!!

Is Royai overrated? No. It's a decent couple. Their personalities mix well, and it can make a great story.

Is Royai overdone? Oh yes. Same with RoyXEd. (Yes, stone the heretic. :X) There are only so many times you can tell a story before it gets old. Fast. That's not to say that a creative person couldn't weave a particularly interesting story out of it.

Personally, I'm all for homunculus love.

Well, im a complete royai spaz, (pokes sig and avvy) so im saying A: Its the best thing ever. However, RoyEd is way over done. Personoally, i don't get how it works. I'm not gonna start on a rant, but... yeah.

I don't think it's overrated like EdxRoy(shounen ai really isn't meant to be )

First of all.....Royai is the best and not overrated..my endless love for Royai!..Go for it!

What do you excactly mean by ....overrated? We dont use that word much.

Its not really overdone..as everyone else said, RoyxEd kinda is though...they're a great couple and what they have going on in the manga is, er (whats the word for it..) ...nice? Its gone further than EdWinry (actually I dont know about that either...I kinda think it is though)

WinryDen57 said that Riza could do better (whatever that means)...at what, though? Meh, and she/he said that they'd onyl read up to volume 6...yeah...if you read on, you'll get a nice little (well, actually big) bunch of Royai, quite nice. The anime was dissapointing though, I have a feeling that BONES dislike Riza...

*waves* I'm a Royai-spaz too~~!!! (^o^)/*


I totally agree with your posts.. Royai is just the best thing ever and is waaaaayyyy beyond other couplings, even in other animes!! ROYAI ROCKZZ!!
BONES dislike Riza? *prepares to drop an atomic bomb @ BONES's place* Just kidding..

I love Royai more than any other pairing, so don't hurt me for saying this: The smaller amount of the HavocxRiza stories are very well done, and I do like it second to Royai. I mean, the Royai fics are exactly the same in the building up to the romance (1. 'We have to get rid of "sir", it's Roy.' 2. 'It's just not professional to do this.') so I find reading an underrated pairing more enjoyable sometimes.

Royai has got to be the best pairing in FMA. It's not just military figures looking out for each other; it's a developing relationship, which is quite obvious but subtle at the same time. They sort of complete each other--Roy being the procrastinating kind and Riza the serious one, it balances. I love the look on Riza's face when Roy was wondering if the girls in the east were pretty...it's priceless. And the last episodes were overflowing with Roy/Riza love that I just can't imagine how Roy/Ed could fit in. *shudders*

I think that Royai (RoyxRiza) would have to be my absoulute favourite pairing out of the whole series of FMA. For one, they do mix well and have a very strong partnership with one another. Also, I love the factor of "forbidden love" and all that kind of stuff.

Also, earlier in the forum, it was mentioned that there are Hawkeye/Havok haters. Okay, that is fair enough, I'll admit, but I don't have a problem with it as I have "accidently" (yes, accidently) wrote a love triangle with Mustang, Hawkeye AND that of Havok. It's sort of AU-ish, but that doesn't matter. In the story, Riza and Havok had sexual relations (please do not be offended, children), nothing graphical, just sort of an "affair" behind Roy's back. So, Havok goes to confront Mustang with a gun and basically tells him to back off, etc because.. *gasp* HE'S IN LOVE WITH RIZA.. and he can't STAND the fact that Roy has a part of her... Anyway, it turns out that Havok is working for the "bad guys" and Hawkeye finds out that she's pregnant, but with whose baby?

Well, I haven't quite finished it, actually, no where near to finishing it. XD! But the genres are Romance/Drama and there might be a possible character death in the near by future. Anyway, I showed one of my friends (possible BETA reader) my fic, just to tease her mind for Royai (which is probably going to be the final outcome) and she read every single little bit of how I portrayed Havok, his speech, the way he acted and everything else, even as a "heel/bad guy", she like.. fell in love with him? So now I made her a RizaHavok supporter with something that in the beginning was just a sketchy idea, turned out more than she or I ever bargained for, you know?

But everyone has their own personal opinions, but before you flame anyone's work, I'd say, don't knock it until you've tried it because you NEVER know what you could be missing out on. Seriously.

But then again, people have different writing styles, they vary, some could be poorly detailed and some could be just.. fantastic. All I say is that you try reading a variety of people's work because you never know what you'll find.

I personally do not support nor condone EdxRoy, EdxEnvy and any other FMA Yaoi fics out there, thank you very much.

Also, I personally do not like EdxWinry, I couldn't picture him with anybody else.. Nor would like him to be paired with anybody else (except me XD!). Nah, kidding. But I suppose it's an alright pairing.. If I was forced to read it or whatever. ^^;

I love what you said here ^^=, VERY MUCH!!

That'll better be Roy's baby, OK?? * :puppy eyes: * Otherwise.. *draws a katana* just kidding..

Yupz.. I agree with you, 100% *points to her previous posts* Actually I don't mind of there are poeple who like those.. as long as I don't get involved *shivers*


I kinda agree with you too here.. XP At first, I had no idea that EdWin existed! *soo sorry EdWin fans*

I really like also royai pairings its the best pairing in FMA its better than edwin sorry to all edwin fans !

What are talking about...what are you talking about?! What. Are. You. Talking. About?! *draws her two katana blades* You starting something? You startin' something?! *points at your part of the post that says "Roy, Hawkeye, Havoc love triangle" sdgkjhsdflaf;asjfiu!!

***slice***

You're the first person to kill my brain...you know, just today though. Sorry I killed you, please, do write more. If Riza ends up with Jean, I WILL seriously keel j00... Ah hah hah hah....no seriously. And that's Roy's baby. Don't Deny it, 'cuz you know it's true, man.

*giggles* Alright, but wouldn't it be more interesting if it were Havok's child? But whom ever's child it is, all I know is that Mustang (I'm thinking about making it eventual Royai, they work things out and everything goes back to normal or something). But yes, it's going to be very complicated with a lot of character development and whatnot.



So, like me you're not homophobic then? I personally used to write a little Yaoi and don't much mind it.. But it just depends on the character pairings like, how they cross paths and whatnot. I kind of cross the line wityh incest. Isn't it just morally wrong for a pair of brothers/sisters/brother and sister to go into some sort of sexual act? I mean.. I don't care if you have certain "urdges" or whatever, please, if you do, could you take them else where? Not to be mean or anything, it's just don't people have morals and values? And seriously, I'm sure the creator didn't want to imply that there was some sort of more than a brotherly relationship between both Elric brothers, right? Again, this is just my opinion, nothing more or nothing less. Just don't expect me to sit here and read an Elricest fic, because I've already read one and thought.. It just wasn't right.



Hehe, I knew it existed and the population of EdxWin fans are growing more and more each day, perhaps they will become a major rival for Royai, hm?

For me Royai is the best couple but I do like EdRoy if the fanfiction is write well and if it has a good story.
I have to try to read HavokxRiza, it`s the first time I heard about RizaxHavok , so I have to prove how it is.

@Sailor Starlight: Hmm...i shall have to go and look at your fic. Personally, im not a giant HavocAi fan, they're relationship is much more friendshipish to me. I've read some really good ones, though, and i think they're probably the hardest to write, and to get to work.
I i sort of agree with you on the whole yaoi thing. Im definatly not homophobic, but it still disturbs me greatly, especially if the characters are obviously straght...( imean, come on, Roy's like, 'ooh, look, something with breasts...' so i can't see it happening, that and the fact that he so obviously belongs with Riza.)

I love love love Royai!!! SO of course I voted that Royai is the best thing in the world. EdWin is overrated. I used to be okay with it, but now I only find really cheesy fanfics about them. The anime doesn't support EdWin at all. So I'm glad the manga is starting to have a little more romance in it. I just wish there would be some Royai fluff. heh heh heh

*points to name and avatar*

Royai is the best!! I love it, they're so hot together!!!!

I love Royai! It seems to me to be the most obious coupling in the show! There is at least some evidence to back it up. Unlike Winry and her hurling wrench!

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!


ROYAI!!!!!!!!!!!!! RULEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Winry and Ed are ok..but Royai is SOOOOO much better

and I Agree With Colonel Sarcasm on his last statement. Lol, It's kinda hard to tell about Winry and Ed. lol

Damn right it will! (i think?)

It is NOT overrated!
I mean, you can't call it overrated because the fans are a majority and not just a loud minority.
Roy and Riza are both just so coooool!!! Roy with his flames and Riza with her kickass gun skills! (I especially like Riza though)
And that's what I like about them. They are so perfect for each other.

*my name should be enough proof of my loyalty so don't try to sway me*

Not much opinion...I'm just surprised that Royai is the most popular thing to talk about here. And not Edwin.
I support them, but if I have to admit it, I don't support them too much. Because for all of these bloody years, Roy and Riza have been together, so why doesn't one just SAY something?

PS:Roy dates too much XD

\O/\O/\O/
totally support royai moments ... one of the best things on the manga ^^
and well in my opinion there are so many clues in the manga about their relantionship be a litlle bit more than colonel and liutenant or even more than just friends !!!!
and it's become more clearly each chapter ... like the last one ... chapter 62 ...[no it wont have spoiler ... relax ].................and so many others ... and even in the guidebook .....in my opinion theres more about them to tell ... let's just wait ( dammint hate to wait) ..........and in the anime too theres sort of moments when they shows us their relantionship.. but not as many or as depper as it is in the manga ....and well they are really my favorite couple ever ...........hope for more royai scenes in the manga

yay for royai imo, the fact that they never really explicitly get it on together (and just drop subtle hints, as any hardcore fan would gladly enumerate) just makes the pairing more addictive irresistable.

on a tangent, ed in your sig looks pretty cute. yay for uniforms!

Putting aside the fact that I'm a huge Royai fan (well, I guess we can't really) I don't think it's overrated. Their story was like a breath of fresh air from all the other obvious, cheesy, and/or annoying pairings I saw in other anime/manga. They are both such unique characters, and I keep finding more and more to them as I read on in the series...

My opinion of EdWin is like what some other people said... too plain. It's everywhere... the couple that fights a lot...

I can't see Havoc and Riza. It annoys me somehow.. [probably half because I'm a Royai fan ] But I just don't think they go together..

Riza x Ed - I can't even begin to imagine.

Roy x Ed - I generally don't support yaoi, and this is not an exception...

Well, this has turned from a 'What do you think of Royai?' thread into a 'what do you like/hate about shipping?' thread.

I don't think Royai is over-rated. I think the serious fans (no, not just the madly enthusiastic ones, I mean the ones who know what they're talking about) have the ideas and canon facts to back it up. Its pretty difficult to argue with a combination like that.

I've been in too many fandoms for too long not to have become pretty lax about what I like and tolerate in terms of fanon and pairings. Canon is canon and is indisputable 'fact' - open to only a limited amount of interpretation.

These pages alone support the notion that fandom-shipping and fanon are a *totally* different matter. The most fervent canon purists hate 'fangirl' fanon shippers, and vice versa. Now *that* is an over-rated conflict, because it is an on-going difference of opinion that has never, and shall never, come to a compromise.

No matter how far canon takes a certain relationship, it cannot be doubted (by anyone involved, anyway) that fandom can and will have the power to take the concept one step further. Or five. Royai people have canon suggestions to work on, ditto EdWin fans. Slash fans (generally, going by slash specifically being non-canon relationships) have less to go on, but develop suggestions, characterisation and extend them to a certain conclusion. With enough canon basis and characterisation (or lack thereof) to go on, the possibilities for exploration is nigh-infinite. Some pairings are obscure, others totally nonsensical, and in the hands of the wrong artist/writer it can end up even worse. But with a writer who knows what they're doing, there are those 'odd' pairings which can be pulled off well. As for my own opinions:

Roy/Riza - I see them having definite chemistry within canon (either form). Even without the canon support, I would probably read it as a shipped pairing. It just works for me.

Ed/Win - There's more canonical support in the manga, as the anime rather cheapened any suggestion we had (in the film it was just....overly sentimental). I like the idea, but as I don't like Ed that much, its not my favourite. I accept that there is at least one-sided attraction there, but I don't go around waving a flag for it.

Al/Win - I think they would work well together, though it has few (if any?) canon suggestions. If I had to write a het pairing except Royai, it would be these two. Winry has her own life to lead, but I'm not convinced Ed would settle down with her; I can envisage it ending up with him leaving.

Roy/Ed - Spare me....Or, specifically, spare me the fangirls who equate writing a young, gay Ed with effeminacy. Or seem to think that hate equals love without seeing the need to justify the pairing with, you know, 'character'. Like many things, if the fic/art's good, it can be v. good. But when its bad, its horrific. Slash does not (or should not) instantly shove everyone out-of-character. I can see where people are coming from when they write this pairing, but I very rarely come across one that does it plausibly. I also have yet to be convinced that any Roy/Ed fic within the series' timeline can be done in-character.

Others: I slash characters like no-body's business. 'Nuff said.