I hunt turky and White tale deer

Does shooting at helpless animals make you feel powerful and nice inside FMAJPD?

Kinda thats what hobbies are for

Yeah i agree coz i'm a NOOB hunter....Wach out!!!

So you think hobbies are for tearing flesh apart and blowing brains off. Well done. Ladies and gentlemen, THIS is what happends when you put a weapon into the hands of the ignorant youth. Just wait till he grows up.

Ya, If we didn't hunt they would overpopulate and die the long painful death of starvation

Man hunting sucks, i really don't like that, my aunt and her friend where to hunt with ther boyfrinds and they end uo crying when one of the guys killed a deer.

Overpopulate? If you're looking at problems stemming from overpopulation, the most blatant offenders are HUMANS not turkeys. For turkeys we already have a national holiday celebrating their death. Stop trying to justify hunting defenseless animals for your own pleasure. And stop whoring excuses when they aren't good arguments in the first place.

HELLO! Thanks giving doesn't celebrate turkey death...THANKSgiving...moron

Well, everyone here knows what I hunt . . .

Calm down. Thieves is making a social commentary as well as showing that your claim of overpopulation of hunted animals is ludicrous.

Yeah, can you catch *coghshimcoghs* now?

very funny


Hey I started this for people to state wether they hunt or not and state what they hunt not for concerned enviromentalist hippies to critisize my hobbies

I try. By the way, I strongly suggest reading ALL OF THIS and follow what it says, just so you will know what happened if you couldn't post one day.

On a message board, you're going to get people to ciritize your hobbies. Do you expect that everyone is going to be willing to sit back and think that hunting is not unethical or criticize it? If you want 100% approval, you should post this on a hunting forum.

The beauty of the message board world is hearing the opinions and thoughts of those who differ from you.

Sorry for that

ok, ok, guys, settle down. lets just respect what FMA JPD does for a hobby. Just a quick question for you FMA JPD, do you use every part of the turkey or deer, and not just chop off its head and hang it on a wall?(im not saying you do that)

Why should I respect something that isn't respectful. That's like saying to criminals on death row, your hobby is to go on killing sprees, but hey I repect that.

I use every usable part other than the bones. mostly for food



Animals killing animals is in nature. with your logic I coulg go up to a lion and a zebra and say "now fellas time to settle your differences"




Note from Quistis: Holy frick, learn to use the EDIT button . . .

How can't you not see hunting as "respectful"? He's even said it himself, that he uses all of the parts he can. If our ancestors didn't hunt, we wouldn't be here right now. I don't see hunting as a respectful "sport" when the hunter simply strips the kill of a few little parts, then pops off it's antlers and trys to look like a hero. but i trust what FMA JPD is saying, that he is not being wasteful. Hunting is fine, except if your hunting endangered species.

How can't you not see hunting as "respectful"? He's even said it himself, that he uses all of the parts he can. If our ancestors didn't hunt, we wouldn't be here right now. I don't see hunting as a respectful "sport" when the hunter simply strips the kill of a few little parts, then pops off it's antlers and trys to look like a hero. but i trust what FMA JPD is saying, that he is not being wasteful. Hunting is fine, except if your hunting endangered species.

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no prob

I do not enjoy hunting for the shear pleasure. I feel that is wrong

thats good to hear. i personally could never hunt because I would feel horrible with myself.

That which is in nature is not necessarily ethical. There is no reason at this time to kill animals. We have the means and ability to actually live without hunting.

But, I don't care about hunting one way or another typically. I usually worry about other things than whether eating meat is unethical. But don't expect people to respect hunting if they think that killing animals is unethical and potentially equivalent to frivolous murder.

there actually is a need to hunt right now. im not saying that the need will always be here, but right now there is. there simply is not enough grain and other non GE veggies being produced to satisfy a global vegetarian diet. famine would arupt and everyone would die. simply put, of course...

You must have huge cravings of turkey and deer. But if it is for food, why use the word hunting? Why not just cage them up and just cut off its head when you want one on your plate? The meaning I got from your first point is that you hunt for pleasure. And as arche says, in this day and age you don't need to hunt, you just kill.

good point. I can see your side of this

I never ordered you to become vegetarian. Why would you be hunting for meat then, what the grocery store not fresh enough for you? Or do you own turkey and deer farm? ...is the word farm appropriate?

thievesvinager I think we both got the wrong impression of eachother.Truce

The social value to hunting is that it gives those who need it an outlet to kill something without killing people. Basically it allows people to take out their carnal agressive needs in a way that's not harmful to human beings.

I'd much rather you hunt a deer than my family. Of course, behavior and thinking that likes the suffering and fear of lesser beings is a problem. But again, I'm not going to worry about it unless it's the fear and suffering of humans that's involved.

i hunt a.....some

My motto is if your going to hunt something, hunt something that is going to hunt you back! For example Bears, Wolves, Lions, Tigers, you get the idea Make it a fair game gentlemen, hunt something that is going to defend itself.

Hrm I went hunting once I had to stop though. Shooting animals gave me too much of a sadistic pleasure I felt like I was a person who could give life and death so I said "Well it feels good and all but this is a wrong type of pleasure," so I stopped. Though we did eat those 4 deer and 15 rabbits I killed it was a feast. And the left overs lasted us the rest of the week and all so yeah never give me a weapon if its not life or death becuase I am very relentless and brutal when it comes to a fight I get lost in the ecstasy and thrill. I try and control my basic primal urges so another reason I stopped hunting. I am a sadist but I ama controlled one if there is such a thing lol.

Right. Teeth, claws and a scary growl is real defense against a rifle.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against hurting all animals. But i'm more inclined to hurt a human being than any other species.

Go Thieves?

I understand where you're going though. There's too many stinkin' humans on this planet for the planet to support. We're in an age of massive extinction since humans have depleted their share of the Earth's resources and moved on to depleting the resources of other animals. Humans are just too selfish.

Don't get me wrong though. I'm too nice to go on a massive killing spree to rid the world of human kind. No seriously! *Hides in a corner*



Is there really a global need to hunt? I don't think so. Most of the population gets along fine without hunting, unless you were homeless and without money. Then you can pull out a makeshift sling shot or something and shoot pigeons if you want. (Why don't homeless people do this btw?) There's too many of them bugger pigeons around anyway. No, just kidding. Don't kill me for being a pigeon hater, even if I'm not a pigeon hater. Free the pigeons!!!

Anyway, most of the population can live without hunting. Plus, I heard that the U.S. produces enough on its farms to feed the population of the world. The government even pays some farmers not to farm because otherwise there would be an overproduction of produce and other farmed goods. I forgot what this program was called though. Anyone currently taking A.P. U.S. Government?

So what need is there to hunt? My family isn't currently discussing any plans to head to the mountains and shoot deer? Should I make the suggestion in order for my family to survive against the impending crisis of starvation?

There is a somewhat need to hunt. In America, there are more people in jail then there are farmers. I everbody in the entire world started a vegan lifestyle tommorrow, the world would be in a famine. Even if there is enough food to feed the entire world, how long will that last? Probly only a couple days, if we were lucky. You guys know how Greedy some people are? Do you think that the world is just overrun with food? well, its not. Im not saying that I like hunters, or what they do, but we need them. We don't need a worldwide famine.

Over population from few hunters alo create more car accidents. Those deer breed like wildfire

FMA JPD's right

I hunt book bargains. And little alien figurines that you find in the quarter machines.

Compared to what? I still agree with whoever it was that said humans are the ones with the bigger overpopulation issue.

The population we need to control are those gun happy hunters

True China especially

For humans, it's not so much population control, but rather distribution of wealth and land. Too many people are not willing to be socially engeneered to live in crowded buildings and potentially in inhospitable climates.

still say FMA JPD is right

And I say you're wrong. Want to make something of it

Everyone turning vegan? Famine? Please stay on topic. I'm not talking about food production, I'm not talking about vegetarians, I'm talking about how it is stupid for people to hunt for fun and even stupider for them to come up with pathetic justifications. Keep in mind that we are PRODUCING animals to feed ourselves thus having a shortage is not a huge problem. Animals you're talkng about are not producing naturally, so we can increase their number or decrease it. Producing and killing, that's fine. However, hunting is a different matter. Get this straight.

Arche, the wealth and land problem also stems from the social parasites we have in the US. We spend too much money on welfare queens, drug addicts, and criminals. Instead of handing out free rent, three meals a day, internet access, limited phone access, et cetera for murderers and rapists, we could be funding schools and hospitals. Or maybe even better the healthcare system. Can you believe that drug addicts get a bonus in thier check because it's a "societal problem"? Good god, drug abuse is decision not a disease. A captalistic society that is being screwed over by modern-day robin hoods. Just let social darwinism run its course.

I don't believe in hunting. It is stupid and really, who do you think is going to win? A man with a gun or an animal with only natural defenses? It is purely pointless and hurts/kills animals, whom we take their land anyways and detroy their habitatas. Hunting them further is just stupid and evil.

Edit: People who say it is good because it keeps animal populations down are stupid. Nature has a way of balancing itself out. We have erased entire species and we are still aloud to hunt. Instead of shooting rabbits, why can't we breed a few more wolves and that way it would balance out naturally in time. It is better than shooting them and hanging their carcus on a mantle.

Well there may be more people in jail than there are farmers but then that small population of farms produce a hundred thousand?, one million?, hell maybe even one hundred million times their number YEARLY. It might even be more. I would do the calculations but unfortunately, I don't know all the factors, but look that's already a pretty huge amount of food. And everyone doesn't need to suddenly go on a vegetarian diet. There are farms raising cattle, salmon, sheep, whatever...

Ok, I know there are some people out there who need to hunt. The tribes in New Guinea or Africa for example. But most of the population out there don't need hunters. How many people living in the U.S. make a living from hunting? Maybe a hundred people at most? And most of us regular citizens. When have you ever needed to hunt something to feed yourself? You just do it for fun right?

No hunters are not needed in our society. Hunting is not needed to feed most of the global population. Some people in Africa, New Guinea, or the jungles in S. America need to hunt but most people can get by without food acquired through hunting. They can just buy it at the supermarket.

Why? Do you now realize how horribly wrong you were?