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WhiteMike
its an easy concept. i think that aliens, err, intelligent life forms, have visited earth at one point or another. but there's no proof, so...
Haroken
I think its naive and arrogant to believe in a universe in which we've only explored 1% we're the only sentient beings.
crimsionfire_alchemist
i belive in them for some reason
hitokiri
statisical odds dictate that there HAS to be aliens, to think that human life is unique is nothing more than egocentric biblical bullshit. but as for if they visited earth or not... maybe they did but they would have left right away. i mean what the hell could interest a race that has mastered interstellar travel on a crappy little world filled with crazy monkey hicks like us?
Envy's lil' miniskirt
QUOTE(hitokiri @ May 9 2005, 07:15 PM)
i mean what the hell could interest a race that has master interstellar travel on a crappy little world filled with crazy monkey hicks like us?
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Maybe for the same reason we would go check out cave men if we could.


Yes, I believe that there is other sentient forms of life (people if you will) out there pretty much for the same reason others have stated so I won't repeat it.
Quistis88
Do I believe? Yes, probably. Panspermia is a plausible theory, I suppose.

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ἀρχή
There probably are other forms of life including possibly other sentient forms. I just don't believe that cows are being abducted or at least, if they are, I have to say I have no respect for them dry.gif

Europa is probably our best bet to try to get some life samples assuming there really is an ocean underneath the icy surface. Once we get the microbes, people will be more inclined to "accept" alien life I think.
hitokiri
QUOTE(Quistis88 @ May 9 2005, 10:26 PM)
Do I believe?  Yes, probably.  Panspermia is a plausible theory, I suppose.

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go to the home page on that site and check out that black hole article. even if you could care less about the black hole the pic is rather cool.
Quistis88
QUOTE(hitokiri @ May 9 2005, 08:38 PM)
go to the home page on that site and check out that black hole article. even if you could care less about the black hole the pic is rather cool.

*stares at the artistic rendition*

biggrin.gif It almost looks like an over-dramatization of dropping a marble into a dirty sink filled with shiny dishwater.
Foolio
QUOTE(hitokiri @ May 9 2005, 07:15 PM)
statisical odds dictate that there HAS to be aliens, to think that human life is unique is nothing more than egocentric biblical bullshit. but as for if they visited earth or not... maybe they did but they would have left right away. i mean what the hell could interest a race that has mastered interstellar travel on a crappy little world filled with crazy monkey hicks like us?
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that was beautifly worded, i cried.
Steel Alchemist
Well there has to be something out there. We cant just be the only ones. I cant see it that way.
mongooseboi
i dont really worry too much about whether then exist or not, but if they do, they better not be butt ugly. i want pretty aliens. :]
WhiteMike
Think about how many other species there are on earth other then human. There are hundreds of thousands different types, which means that the probability of aliens visting earth is low. Its more likely that we will encounter an alien bacteria or some other microorganism. Though I still do strongly believe that aliens have visited us tongue.gif
hitokiri
QUOTE(WhiteMike @ May 10 2005, 04:09 PM)
Think about how many other species there are on earth other then human.  There are hundreds of thousands different types, which means that the probability of aliens visting earth is low.
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wait, what does the diversity of earth's global ecosystem have to do with the odds of alien encounters?
WhiteMike
well, if you think about it, earth is the perfect environment for species to live in, we have a survivable temperature range, water(thats a big one), and plenty of oxygen and vegitation. So if this is the best place for us to live, then most likely there are other systems out there that have the same type of environment that we do.
There are a huge amount of different species just on earth, millions of bacteria and viruses, hundred of thousands of insects, thousands of reptiles and birds, 4 large primates (chimps, gorillas, orang-tang, and human). The number of species other then human is dramatically higher, which means that the possibility of meeting another humanoid species in this universe is extremely low. Since there are so many types of bacteria and viruses, it increases chance of us finding that kind of alien life form. K?
Quistis88
QUOTE(WhiteMike @ May 10 2005, 02:25 PM)
well, if you think about it, earth is the perfect environment for species to live in, we have a survivable temperature range, water(thats a big one), and plenty of oxygen and vegitation.  So if this is the best place for us to live, then most likely there are other systems out there that have the same type of environment that we do.

How would we know whether or not Earth is the only "perfect environment" in this vast universe? Maybe we're actually the worst of all possible worlds.
hitokiri
QUOTE(WhiteMike @ May 10 2005, 04:25 PM)
well, if you think about it, earth is the perfect environment for species to live in, we have a survivable temperature range, water(thats a big one), and plenty of oxygen and vegitation.  So if this is the best place for us to live, then most likely there are other systems out there that have the same type of environment that we do.
There are a huge amount of different species just on earth, millions of bacteria and viruses, hundred of thousands of insects, thousands of reptiles and birds, 4 large primates (chimps, gorillas, orang-tang, and human).  The number of species other then human is dramatically higher, which means that the possibility of meeting another humanoid species in this universe is extremely low.  Since there are so many types of bacteria and viruses, it increases chance of us finding that kind of alien life form.  K?
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but thats under the assumption that all life is carbon based... if you throw in silicon as a replacement for carbon, you dramtically raise the chances of alien life. also what makes you think that aliens have to be humannoid? just because the bipedal design is the dominant on earth doesn't necessarily make it so elsewhere.
WhiteMike
Im just saying that we could have an atmosphere made up of methane or hydrogen sulfide, or our planet could be one little planetary slot over (like where venus is), and the days are too hot and the nights are too cold for aything to survive. It was pure chance that life even started on this planet.

and there are significant findings that silicon could replace carbon, so who knows what they would look like?



Note from Quistis: Don't double-post. Use the EDIT button.
ἀρχή
There could be sulfer loving non-carbon based amazon women living on Venus laugh.gif
nekodesu
We cannot be alone in the vast universe in which we live in.
Ronaldo Rodregez
I think we got lucky and are the only living planet.
WhiteMike
Well, I guess thats a theory happy.gif
FMA JPD
Yes and no. Although one night I saw a bright green light, to big to be an airplane. Could have been an astronomical anomoly
WhiteMike
QUOTE(FMA JPD @ May 17 2005, 01:34 PM)
Yes and no. Although one night I saw a bright green light, to big to be an airplane. Could have been an astronomical anomoly
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Hmmmm... that must have been some astronomical anomoly...
silver bg
it is 50% yes .49% no,there could be other life out there. Our solar system is like 2% of the universe.

what's the other 1% ???
Ailuro
QUOTE(silver bg @ May 23 2005, 08:00 PM)
it is 50% yes .49% no,there could be other life out there. Our solar system is like 2% of the universe.

what's the other 1% ???
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2%? Hah! More like .000001% or less. wink.gif
«°~Envy™~°»
Sorry but I don't believe in aliens :| but I can always be wrong lol
silver bg
«°~Envy™~°», you were wrong,i am one biggrin.gif . sorry it's true sad.gif
Prinz_Zoisit
there could be some aliens!^^
dramabowwow
I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOME OTHER LIFE FORM SOMWHERE IN THE UNIVERISE. BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SILLY TO THINK THAT WE WERE THE ONLY LIVING LIFE FORMS IN THE UNIVERSE.
Carnal Malefactor
QUOTE(dramabowwow @ May 24 2005, 09:54 PM)
I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS SOME OTHER LIFE FORM SOMWHERE IN THE UNIVERISE. BECAUSE IT WOULD BE SILLY TO THINK THAT WE WERE THE ONLY LIVING LIFE FORMS IN THE UNIVERSE.
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You believe in it so much that you feel the need to express it in all-caps?
alchemist x
Aliens are real.

example.

Paco from mexico (the little guy that sits in your cabnet with a can of coffee)

If you have half a brain you will know what i am talking about.
«°~Envy™~°»
QUOTE(alchemist x @ May 24 2005, 02:26 PM)
Aliens are real.

example.

Paco from mexico (the little guy that sits in your cabnet with a can of coffee)

If you have half a brain you will know what i am talking about.
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lmao he ain't real tongue.gif


and You people never thought that the reason why we could be the only planet with life on it

could be that this planet has just the right elements to sustain life, just like the earth itself is at the right angle and distance from the sun

little bit closer we burn a little bit further we freeze
Luckyalchemy27
Oh, of course there are aliens. Look at crop circles, for instance. 90% of crop circles are fake, but the ones that ARE real have the insides of the wheat crops blown out, yet the crop still lives and continues to grow. And the stalks are all interwoven in a perfect blanket. They also appear within mere minutes. Even stranger, if you were to map out all of the crop circles in England and were to draw a line between them, you would find that nearly all of the circles are aligned with Stonehenge. Coincidence? I think not! *wow, I watch too much TV...O_o*
«°~Envy™~°»
QUOTE(Luckyalchemy27 @ May 24 2005, 05:01 PM)
Oh, of course there are aliens. Look at crop circles, for instance. 90% of crop circles are fake, but the ones that ARE real have the insides of the wheat crops blown out, yet the crop still lives and continues to grow. And the stalks are all interwoven in a perfect blanket. They also appear within mere minutes. Even stranger, if you were to map out all of the crop circles in England and were to draw a line between them, you would find that nearly all of the circles are aligned with Stonehenge. Coincidence? I think not! *wow, I watch too much TV...O_o*
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I don't believe any of those are real lol
Gato Gurl914
media spawned aliens i don't believe in but i just cant believe that out of the entire universe earth is the only planet capable of supporting life.
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QUOTE(Gato Gurl914 @ May 24 2005, 05:19 PM)
media spawned aliens i don't believe in but i just cant believe that out of the entire universe earth is the only planet capable of supporting life.
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Yes i Do highly dought that but we have yet to prove that true, so I'll keep with the non believing lol
Edward Elric.
*Warning took Tylenol PM some errors in structure may occurred * dry.gif
Universe is similer to the lottery system

Planet = Ticket

Atoms/Matter ex. O2, C02, ect = Winning numbers to support life

Earth is one of the grand winners

Universe is too vash

1/1000000000 Chance that one of the planet/winner can support life

1/1000000000 X Infinity = Unknown number of planets/winners can support life but odd are so great that surely more then 1 planet can support life
silver bg
QUOTE(Luckyalchemy27 @ May 24 2005, 08:01 PM)
Oh, of course there are aliens. Look at crop circles, for instance. 90% of crop circles are fake, but the ones that ARE real have the insides of the wheat crops blown out, yet the crop still lives and continues to grow. And the stalks are all interwoven in a perfect blanket. They also appear within mere minutes. Even stranger, if you were to map out all of the crop circles in England and were to draw a line between them, you would find that nearly all of the circles are aligned with Stonehenge. Coincidence? I think not! *wow, I watch too much TV...O_o*
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it's more like 99% are fake.. dry.gif what tv station ? dry.gif
Prinz_Zoisit
QUOTE(Edward Elric. @ May 25 2005, 02:38 AM)
*Warning took Tylenol PM some errors in structure may occurred *  dry.gif
Universe is similer to the lottery system

Planet = Ticket

Atoms/Matter ex. O2, C02, ect = Winning numbers to support life

Earth is one of the grand winners

Universe is too vash

1/1000000000 Chance that one of the planet/winner can support life

1/1000000000 X Infinity = Unknown number of planets/winners can support life but odd are so great that surely more then 1 planet can support life
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yes, edward....... i heard of this huuuuuuuuge formula which is(with a certain possibility) describing the possibility that there would be thinking life on a planet...

this formula was something like("p" is the possibility/chance):

p(there is materia in the universe)
+p(there is gravitation which binds them together)
+p(there is O2 and other materia)
+p(it's built the right atmosphere)
+p(it's the right temperature)
+p(there's water)
+p(there's life)
+p(there's thinking life)

etc..............^^
WhiteMike
What do you guys think of all these people who say that they've been abducted by aliens?
Luckyalchemy27
@WhiteMike: Hmm...I don't know. I mean, the stories are a little wacked, but you have to admit that we can't totally prove that they are lying.
WhiteMike
QUOTE(Luckyalchemy27 @ May 26 2005, 06:26 PM)
@WhiteMike: Hmm...I don't know. I mean, the stories are a little wacked, but you have to admit that we can't totally prove that they are lying.
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Ya, I agree. People tried to use hypnosis on their patients to see if they were telling the truth, but scientists just found out that when people are under hypnosis they tend to make up things. Not just little things either. Like this one person, they stayed in a controlled enviornment for a couple nights, anxd they were carefully monitered by people and camaras.
When the person was awake they put them into hypnosis state, and asked them what happened that night. The person told this story about how he/she heard 2 distinct knocks and they got up to investigate the noise, but heard nothing. This event was not captured on any camara or person.
Just goes to show how people have to be critical when they research something.
«°~Envy™~°»
QUOTE(WhiteMike @ May 26 2005, 02:59 PM)
What do you guys think of all these people who say that they've been abducted by aliens?
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attention Seekers
WhiteMike
possibly
Fresh_Coffee
QUOTE(Luckyalchemy27 @ May 24 2005, 07:01 PM)
Oh, of course there are aliens. Look at crop circles, for instance. 90% of crop circles are fake, but the ones that ARE real have the insides of the wheat crops blown out, yet the crop still lives and continues to grow. And the stalks are all interwoven in a perfect blanket. They also appear within mere minutes. Even stranger, if you were to map out all of the crop circles in England and were to draw a line between them, you would find that nearly all of the circles are aligned with Stonehenge. Coincidence? I think not! *wow, I watch too much TV...O_o*
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You haven't seen the Tv show where they show that behind it all is some dorky 50 year old guys who have nothing else better to do. biggrin.gif
Luckyalchemy27
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You haven't seen the Tv show where they show that behind it all is some dorky 50 year old guys who have nothing else better to do.


Scarily enough, I have. It's kind of sad that all of them are believed to be real. Most crop circles aren't real, but I believe that some of them are.

I mean, some of the most complex circles appear in a matter of minutes. Guards watching over Stonehenge at night have gone on break and come back only five minutes later to find a circle in one of the fields surrounding the landmark.
Guest
But isn't it kinda a weird that crop circles only form when people aren't looking at them? I need to see some physical evidence to support those claims, like a video tape or something else. Im not trying to say that I don't believe in real crop circles, I've already seen video of these 2 flashing balls flying over the fields in England, and having them (the filmer) being chased by an army helicopter a couple minutes later. There's some freaky shit goin' on.
WhiteMike
Sorry, that quote above is from me, forgot to sign-in again...
silver bg
QUOTE(WhiteMike @ May 26 2005, 05:59 PM)
What do you guys think of all these people who say that they've been abducted by aliens?
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they are queers,drunk,stupid,and my favorite drunk queers biggrin.gif
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