You haven't been on the internet long, have you? Trust me, there's plenty of it!

Really? I think there's too much of it.

No such thing as to much.

For the love of god, no character is proven "gay" or "straight" unless the creator comes out and says so. If they don't, everything is left entirely up to the reader to interpret. Such is the way of literature: everything is for the audience's interpretation and analyzation.

And even if a character is with someone of the opposite sex, that doesn't nessecarily rule out the chance they could be bisexual, an orientation a lot of anime fans seem to not think of when it comes to pairings.

Personally, gender shouldn't matter when it comes to pairings. So long as the characters work well together as a couple and are well written in fanfiction that's all that really matters. There are more important things in real life relationships than gender.

(I do however respect the opinion of those who dislike it because of their religious views)

(I don't. Ones faith shouldn't determine that someone else's preference is wrong.)

(Well I meant people not being into yaoi because of their faith, not disliking people who are into it or the fact that it exists. But you're right, just because your faith doesn't support doesn't mean it should be wrong for others.)

(Yeah, I realised what you meant after I posted but I'm lazy)

Personally, I agree with Fushi. This seems an odd thing to be arguing about to me, because I generally think of yaoi/yuri as just a word used to describe a fanfiction that includes homosexuals or occasionally warn someone that it's in the story if they don't believe in that sort of thing. If people don't, then they don't, and I'm not upset by that.

I'm not sure if you can say I "support yaoi" exactly; I just like pairings that I feel work together well, homosexual or not. It's all the same to me. I mean, there are some yaoi pairings I don't like, such as Roy/Ed or Ed/Al. *hides from practically every FMA yaoi writer on the internet* I don't personally see many good yaoi pairings in FMA, beyond perhaps maybe, uh... *cough* one which is sort of my guilty pleasure, lol (but not guilty because it's yaoi, because not many people agree with me and think it's weird. *hides again*). Anyway, there's far too many terrific het pairings in my opinion, like Roy/Riza, Ed/Winry, Ross/Broshe, or Ling/Ran Fan.

Anyway! That's beside the point. My point is that I support pairings that I think work well and aren't a too strange stretch, and I think that the point of fanfiction and fanart and such is to explore different ideas that the show doesn't touch on, including interesting new pairings. *shrugs* I think that the problem may be that not only do so many people immediately think of sex scenes and lemons when they think of yaoi, but writers often focus their yaois on that, though of course not all the time. Still, it's not like het stories don't, so I miss the logic behind this. Het is het, slash is slash, and it's all the same to me so long as, for goodness' sakes, you keep the characters in character.

I'm a BL/slash- fangirl alright.

Heck, I like slash-pairings in non-BL-anime/manga like SasukeXNaruto (Naruto) and SatoshiXDaisuke (DN Angel).

BUT I cannot see any BL-pairing in FMA and I don't want it either (because I'm a EdWin, Royai, LingXLanfan etc...-supporter)... Maybe the characters in FMA are just simply too manly ^_~" (major Armstrong is an exception though xD)?

Conclusion: I don't care if it's BL or not, I'll like it if the pairing works and feels right (incest is a no-no).

It's ok if it's official.
But made up pairings like all the one's in FMA just piss me off.

Personally I do like a few yaoi pairings some who I know hate each other and would never ever get together but hey thats the point of it. It's fandom, its escapism, if you want to see something that would never happen it's where you go. As long as you don't slate people for thier own preferences and realise that some of the pairings you like would never happen, instead of insisting that its canon then your thoughts should be treated fairly aswell. This applys really to any pairing be it het, yaoi or yuri. It's sad when people are treated badly for something they like and it's just as bad as taking the mick out of someone because of, I dunno, what music they like.
Anyway rant finished. Over and out.

I hate yaoi with the burning intensity of a 1000 desert suns lol i have friends who like it though who are allways trying to pursuade me XD 'how can you be a girl and not like yaoi' they say 'very easily' i reply XD nah i hate it, i don't care much if manga is written in the shonen-ai genre, i just don't read it but i absoloutly hate it when fangirls start with the fan pairings that have no backing from the manga at all, and i especially despise the pairings that attack my favourite characters, so i hate the following most of all yaoi...

edxroy
edxal
edxenvy

and anything else which involves ed basically haha XD

as such i chose the runs screaming into wall option, because it really does irritate me a lot XD

In general I have nothing against it...there are a couple pairings I like, but it's usually a situation where that pairing is at least hinted at by the author. In terms of times when people ship two characters who have no canon interest in each other, it's fine with me as long as you don't come at me like it's canon .

I love yaoi! At first I didn't and I avoided all stories involoving it, but then my friend sent me this one that wasn't anime related, and then I read this one roy/ed one that was really good and that is how my obsession started. It has to be good and in FMA I only like Roy/Ed, Envy/Ed, and Roy/Hughes. I can't really explain why I like only those three, but any other yaoi pairings that have to do with FMA annoy me. I also like Ed/Winry, but I think Winry and Al belong together moreso than Ed and Winry. Also, I've noticed in Ed/Envy stories, Russell is almost always the bad guy. Ed/Al annoys me to no end because of the incest and Ed would never do that to Al and vice versa. Ed/Envy I don't consider incest (even though it technically is) because their only half brothers, they hate each other in the series, Envy is a homunculi and looks nothing like Ed, and since he's a homunculi, I consider that the DNA (does he even have DNA?) changed enough that they aren't really brothers. I should mention, that goes by the anime! I don't know what Envy's true form is in the manga, but I know it's different and that he and Ed aren't related...I think.

I'm a heterosexual guys and I really don't like watching homosexual guys. It's not that I hate them, I just don't want to watch them. Yaoi fanfics are annoying but fangirls can write and read them if they want to (even though I find it rather pathetic to read a 'deep' romantic story about Ed having children with Roy). Anyways, as long as it's fandom it's acceptable. If Arakawa decided to turn FMA into yaoi, it would be terrible.

I used to dislike yaoi greatly, if someone mentioned it, I would quickly step out of the room. But I have grown quite fond of it, pretty much to the point where I liked it more than Boy x Girl couples. Yeah, the first option. Definately. However, fangirls writing fanfics is a little overboard, but of course there is nothing I can do to stop them.

But tell me, what's so good about it? Being different (the world 'original' doesn't make sense here, yaoi is too popular)? Androgynous characters? Or are you just one of those who think that guys are more attractive when they are gay (something I could never understand as a heterosexual man)?

I read this story from someone in CAA(Christian anime alliance) okay, sure you may not agree on what they believe in or what I believe in but you must agree that this is extreme.

Sorry? I didn't get the point of writing this? You were criticizing me for liking yaoi and using this as an argument? Two times wrong because I DON'T LIKE YAOI and I am sceptical towards stories told by members of organizations with 'christian' in the name (I am kind of christian but organizations like that are often quite radical in their views and they make up stories to support their views). Or are you saying that hentai is good because CAA dislikes it? It would be a big fallacy and only extreme antichristians would buy it. Or are you using the anti-yaoi article to say why people are pro-hentai (in other way: using it to answer my question)? This would be quite a nonsense, because someone writing an anti-yaoi argument is often subjective and selective about yaoi fans reasoning.

Sorry if I sound aggressive. I am not attacking you or anyone, I just sometimestalik in that way ;P

I know you don't like yaoi, thats why I was going along what you said or backing you up. I use that example not to put christian beliefs but talking how some fangirls on cons can go that far to the point but screaming and tellng guys to make out or girls getting their boyfriends to get into it. I guess I should have left out the qoute from being from a christian site then. I wasn't criticizing anyone, maybe the crazy fangirls that get extreme on their yaoi fetishes. Sorry if I wasn't clear what I was saying. I heard stories from friends who went to cons and even heard how they can get in your face to point of harrassment. Maybe they were overexxagerating but I wouldnt be surprised if it is like that. I don't like hentai either for how they degrade and protray my favorite characters just as much as yaoi. I'm trying to sound aggressive in anyway.

All right, allow me to remind everyone that it is a good idea to state YOUR opinion straight forward instead of letting some article speak on behalf of you, so that there would be less confusion, especially if the quoted article is utterly confusing one that's loaded with many different topics with no clear outlines, and hence gives no idea to not so sharp readers like me just what the article really wants to say. ...

@rzerox21xx - I'm also confused as to what you would like us to come out with that article. Instead of quoting some article, could you tell us, in your own words what your opinion is??? Thanks!!

ETA: Um.. I see rzerox21xx has posted while I'm posting this one, and now that I read rzerox21xx's post, I'm STILL largely confused what was the purpose of the quoted article, and what we are supposed to get out of it. (Sometimes my brain works very simple-mindedly. XD) But, since it's way too confusing, I'm just going to move along, and out of this thread.

Anyway, my recommendation stands. I think it is better to write your opinion on your own words, so that there would be no double guessing by the readers. Or, you can state your opinion first, then list the portion of article that is pertinent to your stated opinion as an example, or something like that... I think that would be a better choice, IMO, or, if you want some better written words to be the proxy to your opinion, then at least provide us with the clear statement as to the relevance of that article to your own opinion. And, if the article has many different ideas and topics, please provide the relevance of those to your own opinion on EACH of these ideas and topics introduced in the article, so that we can get the clear idea of where you stand in relation to that article.



On contrary, even as is now, the article is LACKING with the source info. Please try to provide better source info, such as the link to the site where you got this article from.