CursedAnubis
May 1 2005, 01:29 AM
QUOTE(TheVileOne @ May 1 2005, 12:27 AM)
Holy crap, they actually cut a scene out of the episode for the TV airing?! WTF!
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Actually I think they cut out multiple scenes from this episode
TheVileOne
May 1 2005, 01:32 AM
Yeah they cut out about a minute's worth of footage. Geez, I'm kind of pissed about this.
Anyone know what else got cut this week?
Nenene_Daisy
May 1 2005, 02:08 AM
QUOTE(Suyuki @ May 1 2005, 02:23 AM)
Okay, I'm sure this has been asked billions of times, so sorry if it has o_o;;
Anyway, I'm an American veiwer who has only been able to see the Adult Swim dubbed version of FMA. I see people all over the place complaining about the dubs, and with the show ending for a while and all (while I personally wish it would air more because I desperately want to see the end), I was just wondering: if you live in America, where can you buy the Japanese subtitled versions of FMA? I just don't want to wait until the dubs start again, and I don't want to miss out by watching them if the origionals are
that much better.
So there's my question. Once again, sorry if it's been asked too many times already.
Oh, and I do agree that Hughes' funeral was what really got to me ;-; Poor little Alicia. But is it just me, or did they not show the bullet hole when Envy shot Hughes? His arm was sort of covering his heart, so wouldn't a lethal shot have to be to the head, then?
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the cheapest way I know of is through ebay (that's how I got the entire series of Inuyasha with the english subtitles) but there is also of course online businesses that specialize in anime
hope that helps
TheVileOne
May 1 2005, 02:11 AM
QUOTE(Suyuki @ May 1 2005, 08:23 AM)
Okay, I'm sure this has been asked billions of times, so sorry if it has o_o;;
Anyway, I'm an American veiwer who has only been able to see the Adult Swim dubbed version of FMA. I see people all over the place complaining about the dubs, and with the show ending for a while and all (while I personally wish it would air more because I desperately want to see the end), I was just wondering: if you live in America, where can you buy the Japanese subtitled versions of FMA? I just don't want to wait until the dubs start again, and I don't want to miss out by watching them if the origionals are that much better.
So there's my question. Once again, sorry if it's been asked too many times already.
If you're an American you can just buy the series on DVD. Volumes 1 and 2 have already been released. All the DVD's have the show in Japanese and English subtitles. You can buy them just about anywhere that sells anime on DVD. C'mon guys, try to keep up we only talk about this stuff ALL THE FREAKING TIME!
NeoKakashi
May 1 2005, 03:02 AM
The cuts were made for time. The funeral scene was sort of long (as you know, they have to shorten the credits), so they cut out a bit of "useless" stuff.
As for editing, the biker scene was cut down a bit, for obvious reasons.
Martel
May 1 2005, 03:43 AM
Oh... my... God... that was so much worse than what I thought. That was so increadibly sad... I closed my eyes and listened to Elicia and just started crying! Then I looked up and I see Armstrong just breaking down... then I hear Roy's "It's raining" line and jsut totally lost it! Why whenever someone has to die in an anime they have a wife and family? I mean seriously. I LOATHE Envy with the utmost passion! Hughes is so awsome trying to keep everyone safe... I hear that Ed and Al don't find out about Hughes death till like episode 40 or later, something crazy like that... ::Kills Envy::
«°~Gluttony™~°»
May 1 2005, 05:33 AM
QUOTE(Legolas of Mirkwood @ Apr 30 2005, 11:11 PM)
Envy is such a * beep* Hughs was a very cool person.
How could he do such a thing?

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want me to eat envy?
TwilightPhoenix
May 1 2005, 06:58 AM
It's at this point in time where people really start to get an opinion on Envy... like him or hate him, he's one of the best characters and will continue to either gain fans or gain haters.
Personally I love him. Even though I like Hughes.
jarjar111
May 1 2005, 07:58 AM
What DVD Volume will this episode be on? Also when I buy the DVD with this episode on it will it show the cut version which AS showed?

Also does Scar make the bikers heads explode? I couldnt really tell... Also what did Roy talking about in the beginning of the episode? I missed parts of that too.
Suyuki
May 1 2005, 08:04 AM
QUOTE(Nenene_Daisy @ May 1 2005, 02:08 AM)
the cheapest way I know of is through ebay (that's how I got the entire series of Inuyasha with the english subtitles) but there is also of course online businesses that specialize in anime
hope that helps

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Thank you very, very much!

And back on subject, I think Envy is horrible. So does my brother, but he's also
convinced that Envy is a girl. Whatever.
Either way, killing Hughes made me hate him. Hate, hate him. And he's just.... blehh.
Mustang's Apprentice
May 1 2005, 08:16 AM
QUOTE(jarjar111 @ May 1 2005, 07:58 AM)
What DVD Volume will this episode be on? Also when I buy the DVD with this episode on it will it show the cut version which AS showed?

Also does Scar make the bikers heads explode? I couldnt really tell... Also what did Roy talking about in the beginning of the episode? I missed parts of that too.

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DVD Volume 7
I think it will probably show it in uncut form.
I coudn't really tell about Scar's action scene, though it looked like their heads did explode
The first scene was a flashback after the Ishbal massacre. Roy was studying human transmutation in order to bring back some of the people he killed in the war.Hughes talked him out of doing a human transmutation, though, which made Roy decide he was going to change the country and make it a better place.
Yes, this episode was very sad, but also very entertaining. At least Hughes went down fighting. After the episode I laid in bed just recapping the episode's events over and over......
Sonic-Teal
May 1 2005, 08:30 AM
Poor Hughes he was killed by Envy in the form of his wife. I wonder what Ed's reaction will be when he finds out he is dead, but maybe he is suspecting something after Hughe's ghost waved at him. AHA I knew it Sloth was the secratary and you all told me I was crazy, and dogs can't look up.
jarjar111
May 1 2005, 08:35 AM
Ya I am pretty bummed out that he died.... I liked him so much, good times

. Especially when he made everybody look at his picture of his daughter lol

. But let me get this straight, the very end scene when you see Hughs wave at ED was that his ghost form or what?
thanks
Guest
May 1 2005, 08:37 AM
QUOTE(~FMAgurl~ @ Apr 30 2005, 09:11 PM)
Another thing....was Roy really going to perform a human transmutation? Who was he going to try to bring back?
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He was going to bring back everyone who he killed in the Ishbal 'war'
jarjar111
May 1 2005, 08:46 AM
Also who was that lady which was with Roy at the end of the funeral? Did anyone notice that she had red eyes? Maybe she is from Istanbul? <spelling? Also when Hughes was waving at the station, was that his ghost form? not sure if that got answeredl
Hagane no Renzy
May 1 2005, 08:46 AM
Great great great episode. I didn't quite mind the dubbing, i thought it was decent. But I did hate how they cut out stuff and especially how they changed "It's raining" to "It's going to rain."
Also, AS showed a very sad episode of GitS:SAC Sorry, I had to say that
We even saw
TheVileOne's avatar "in action" lol
Guest
May 1 2005, 08:49 AM
Heh....I had hoped they did well on this episode. They kind of ruined the funeral...I understand about mouth flaps and such...but Elyshia voice had almost no feeling in it and was monotone. Glacia was good...Roy didn't sound like roy much...but it worked well. But I just didn't like Elyshia's little piece *cringe* And that was what got me in the sub.
But aside from that, Hughes did great and so did the others.
Guest
May 1 2005, 08:53 AM
QUOTE(jarjar111 @ May 1 2005, 08:46 AM)
Also who was that lady which was with Roy at the end of the funeral? Did anyone notice that she had red eyes? Maybe she is from Istanbul? <spelling? Also when Hughes was waving at the station, was that his ghost form? not sure if that got answeredl

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Huh? *brakesout the sub*
I think you mean Riza
From left to right:
Unknown man w/ tan skin, Roy, Riza, Ross, and Broshe (sp)
non of them you can see the eyes clearly
Ailuro
May 1 2005, 08:58 AM
QUOTE(jarjar111 @ May 1 2005, 08:46 AM)
Also who was that lady which was with Roy at the end of the funeral? Did anyone notice that she had red eyes? Maybe she is from Istanbul? <spelling? Also when Hughes was waving at the station, was that his ghost form? not sure if that got answeredl

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That lady with red-brown eyes is First Lieutenant Riza Hawkeye. She's been in the series almost since it started. And always by Roy's side. She is not from
Ishbal.
P.S. Istanbul is a city in Turkey.
Tse'yak
May 1 2005, 09:03 AM
I have some messages for some charcters.
Maes: You knew you were going to die, and you still went ahead with it! Anybody who makes Elicia cry is my enemy!
Envy: First, you kicked around Ed like a stone in Lab 05, now you shoot Maes while copying Glacia's body, you stupid girly-boy!
And, I know this is off topic, but.....
That crazy special ops force from GITS SAC: *swears*.
The only good thing to come of this episode is the last thing Scars master says...
Sikiu-San
May 1 2005, 09:27 AM
i was sad when this happened in the manga but i just really broke down at the end when hughes was waving. you know how irl people think they see an image of someone but not sure. i strongly believe that that was his spirit waving to ed wishing them good luck. hughes is always smiling. then before that when he was going on about the ishbal war with slot i shaking my fist at him telling him to shut the hell up ;-; >< that has to be the worst feeling. having an image of the one you love standing before you pulling the trigger.
=O in the dub they had roy say "its raining" wow i thought they might of changed it like america did (has only read that manga and not seen the dubs yet >_>;;) but i am a little upset that america changed it. there was more depth in ._.;
also jarjar i dont think that that lady was with roy. she looked like she was from ishbal (did not see her eyese becuse she was away from the camera) but she was probably visiting another grave =3 *nods*
when i read this episode i did lose my respect for envy but i thought maybe if something would change when i saw the anime. nope he is an awsome character and all but all respect is lost
off the subject again but i didn ot need that when i saw gits >.>;; i was already trying to recover but after that episode i was like damn are they trying to make us go into depression *gonk* XD;
jarjar111
May 1 2005, 09:49 AM
LoL thats what I thought^^, one depressing episode after the next.... The next episode in Stand Alone Complex is the last for this season. Not sure when season 2 will start... Also when are they going to start showing new episodes of FMA. Because you guys keep talking about a break or whatever...
thanks
Spectacal
May 1 2005, 09:54 AM
You people who haven't watched the subs are going to be saying you hate Envy
aaalll through the series. *shudders* Personally, I thought he was a great character. I just hate his dub voice in the English versions.
I didn't cry the first time I saw it, but this time around I sobbed well into Ghost in the Shell. I started crying when Envy turned into Gracia. Hughes expression just broke my heart. Elysia made me cry harder.

'I think it's going to rain today." Meh. I didn't like the line nor how Roy said it. 'It's raining.' was a much sadder, quieter and brought out line.
Now if you excuse me, I'll stop repeating everything that was said already XD
TheVileOne
May 1 2005, 09:59 AM
QUOTE(jarjar111 @ May 1 2005, 02:58 PM)
What DVD Volume will this episode be on? Also when I buy the DVD with this episode on it will it show the cut version which AS showed?

Also does Scar make the bikers heads explode? I couldnt really tell... Also what did Roy talking about in the beginning of the episode? I missed parts of that too.

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If they continue to release 4 per disc it will probably be 7. They continue to release them 8 weeks apart, volume 7 will probably be out in January. All the DVD's will be unedited.
jarjar111
May 1 2005, 10:25 AM
QUOTE(TheVileOne @ May 1 2005, 09:59 AM)
QUOTE(jarjar111 @ May 1 2005, 02:58 PM)
What DVD Volume will this episode be on? Also when I buy the DVD with this episode on it will it show the cut version which AS showed?

Also does Scar make the bikers heads explode? I couldnt really tell... Also what did Roy talking about in the beginning of the episode? I missed parts of that too.

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If they continue to release 4 per disc it will probably be 7. They continue to release them 8 weeks apart, volume 7 will probably be out in January. All the DVD's will be unedited.
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Sweet to the extreme! Why didnt they do it 5 or 7 episodes per disc? They could do that and not lose to quality, take a look at Street Fighter 2 Vs DVD layout. I have all the DVDs for that and its 7 per disc 1 was 8 though or I think... Something to ponder about.....
Luckyalchemy27
May 1 2005, 10:37 AM
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how can you cry cause a animated person died but even thou I don't get that emtional on anime's I didn't expect him to die.
*glares*
~FMAgurl~
May 1 2005, 10:37 AM
Another question about Roy In the beginning: What were those buckets filled with? Was it Red water or blood? Where did it come from? or did it just magically appear? Ok I take that back...i had 4 questions.
Ailuro
May 1 2005, 10:49 AM
Aww, why does everyone hate Envy so much? He's awesome!
ymsg
May 1 2005, 10:57 AM
Maybe cause he killed off our beloved Lt. Colonel.
jarjar111
May 1 2005, 11:12 AM
Your sig is so depressing ymsg^^, it makes me so sad; Especially the heart with him saying good bye....
Full Plastic Alchemist
May 1 2005, 11:17 AM
QUOTE(Guest @ Apr 30 2005, 10:39 PM)
[Thanks Full Plastic. I had an inkiling of what you said.
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umm... your welcome? i dont know if your being sarcastic or not..
ymsg
May 1 2005, 11:22 AM
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Your sig is so depressing ymsg^^, it makes me so sad; Especially the heart with him saying good bye....
Um thanks.. I think. lol ^^;
Guest
May 1 2005, 11:27 AM
QUOTE(Ailuro @ May 1 2005, 10:49 AM)
Aww, why does everyone hate Envy so much? He's awesome!

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I think it's the same reason why they hated Al for a while. He 'hurt' someone that they seemingly adore.
Full Plastic Alchemist
May 1 2005, 11:31 AM
[spoiler]sloth, lust, greed, and pride all die.... gluttony, envy, and wrath live. Just so you dont all go O_O_O_O_O the furer is a homonculus also.
Envy was created by Honeheim when he tried to revive his first son that he had with dante which makes Envy the half brother of ed and al.
Wrath was created by master izumi when she tried to bring her son back that died.
Sloth was created by ed and al when they tried to bring their mom back
Lust..... im not sure... maybe scars brother???
Pride was created by dante
Greed was created by dante
Gluttony i think dante... i dont remember
Xd i just ruined the series for you

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CursedAnubis
May 1 2005, 11:36 AM
QUOTE(Hagane no Renzy @ May 1 2005, 07:46 AM)
Also, AS showed a very sad episode of GitS:SAC Sorry, I had to say that
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Omg yeah! I was sitting there stunned after watching FMA, and then GITS came on and when I finished watching that, I was like WTF? because they killed/captured everybody from Section Nine. For some reason, I don't think they killed the major though, because that body wasn't wearing the watch(which is why I think they showed a flash of her wrist)... Maybe she was using the remote control again? It was very sad how Batou kept yelling "Motoko"

Geez what a depressing night
AlphonseRules
May 1 2005, 11:39 AM
Even though Hughes dies in this episode, at least he goes down with a bang. I mean look at it this way, if they weren't Homunculi he would be the heroe of central right now. I liked how Hughes pauses for a second when Envy is running behind him and notices that it is not the Lieutenant.
Take that Envy you vile weed!
ymsg
May 1 2005, 11:40 AM
QUOTE(CursedAnubis @ May 1 2005, 11:36 AM)
QUOTE(Hagane no Renzy @ May 1 2005, 07:46 AM)
Also, AS showed a very sad episode of GitS:SAC Sorry, I had to say that
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Omg yeah! I was sitting there stunned after watching FMA, and then GITS came on and when I finished watching that, I was like WTF? because they killed/captured everybody from Section Nine. For some reason, I don't think they killed the major though, because that body wasn't wearing the watch(which is why I think they showed a flash of her wrist)... Maybe she was using the remote control again? It was very sad how Batou kept yelling "Motoko"

Geez what a depressing night
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Spam: I know. They totally are in love. It was a sad sad night.
jarjar111
May 1 2005, 12:11 PM
Spam? In love?^^ care to explain mate?
ymsg
May 1 2005, 12:13 PM
Spam- something not relevant to the topic.
In love- Motoko and Batou from G.I.T.S. They have to be in love.
^^
AlphonseRules
May 1 2005, 12:20 PM
Just so you guys know, there is a GITS topic in the General Anime section.
jarjar111
May 1 2005, 12:21 PM
Why would they be in love though?
Guest
May 1 2005, 12:21 PM
QUOTE(Suyuki @ May 1 2005, 08:04 AM)
QUOTE(Nenene_Daisy @ May 1 2005, 02:08 AM)
the cheapest way I know of is through ebay (that's how I got the entire series of Inuyasha with the english subtitles) but there is also of course online businesses that specialize in anime
hope that helps

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Thank you very, very much!

And back on subject, I think Envy is horrible. So does my brother, but he's also
convinced that Envy is a girl. Whatever.
Either way, killing Hughes made me hate him. Hate, hate him. And he's just.... blehh.
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Yeah I definately thought that Envy was a girl for the longest time! Until I watched an episode with the Japnese voice actor I thought Envy was a girl. At least in Japan he sounds like a guy...
Mustang's Apprentice
May 1 2005, 12:33 PM
Yeah in most subbed animes male voices sound feminine and female voices sound masculine. It's just a common thing.
TheVileOne
May 1 2005, 12:37 PM
QUOTE(jarjar111 @ May 1 2005, 05:25 PM)
Sweet to the extreme! Why didnt they do it 5 or 7 episodes per disc? They could do that and not lose to quality, take a look at Street Fighter 2 Vs DVD layout. I have all the DVDs for that and its 7 per disc 1 was 8 though or I think... Something to ponder about.....
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They are releasing the same amount as the Japanese did, 13 volumes. I think one reason is that they are using all the same DVD cover images.
I'd say 4 episodes on almost every volume is a pretty good deal since a lot of anime releases have as low as 3 and even 2 episodes.
jarjar111
May 1 2005, 12:58 PM
QUOTE(TheVileOne @ May 1 2005, 12:37 PM)
QUOTE(jarjar111 @ May 1 2005, 05:25 PM)
Sweet to the extreme! Why didnt they do it 5 or 7 episodes per disc? They could do that and not lose to quality, take a look at Street Fighter 2 Vs DVD layout. I have all the DVDs for that and its 7 per disc 1 was 8 though or I think... Something to ponder about.....
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They are releasing the same amount as the Japanese did, 13 volumes. I think one reason is that they are using all the same DVD cover images.
I'd say 4 episodes on almost every volume is a pretty good deal since a lot of anime releases have as low as 3 and even 2 episodes.
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True even though I am not complaining and I am pretty satisfied with my FMA DVD purchases its just a thought.. But do you think in the future they will bump up the number of episodes per disc? Like DVD 10? Because I heard on the international news channel that they are making newer DVDs but they didnt say anything about the disc space I dont think. But once again its just a thought...
Karo
May 1 2005, 01:38 PM
You can always go on Ebay and gets a whole season for a good price.
I went there and saw some good stuff
TheVileOne
May 1 2005, 02:10 PM
QUOTE(jarjar111 @ May 1 2005, 07:58 PM)
QUOTE(TheVileOne @ May 1 2005, 12:37 PM)
QUOTE(jarjar111 @ May 1 2005, 05:25 PM)
Sweet to the extreme! Why didnt they do it 5 or 7 episodes per disc? They could do that and not lose to quality, take a look at Street Fighter 2 Vs DVD layout. I have all the DVDs for that and its 7 per disc 1 was 8 though or I think... Something to ponder about.....
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They are releasing the same amount as the Japanese did, 13 volumes. I think one reason is that they are using all the same DVD cover images.
I'd say 4 episodes on almost every volume is a pretty good deal since a lot of anime releases have as low as 3 and even 2 episodes.
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True even though I am not complaining and I am pretty satisfied with my FMA DVD purchases its just a thought.. But do you think in the future they will bump up the number of episodes per disc? Like DVD 10? Because I heard on the international news channel that they are making newer DVDs but they didnt say anything about the disc space I dont think. But once again its just a thought...
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No they wouldn't. Think about it man. They already said they are releasing 13 volumes total. That's for 51 episodes. Know what that means, for the math to work, every volume would have to have 4 episodes except one which would have 3. This is how Funimation is doing it and they are not going to change it.
Guest
May 1 2005, 02:21 PM
QUOTE(Full Plastic Alchemist @ May 1 2005, 11:31 AM)
[spoiler]sloth, lust, greed, and pride all die.... gluttony, envy, and wrath live. Just so you dont all go O_O_O_O_O the furer is a homonculus also.
Envy was created by Honeheim when he tried to revive his first son that he had with dante which makes Envy the half brother of ed and al.
Wrath was created by master izumi when she tried to bring her son back that died.
Sloth was created by ed and al when they tried to bring their mom back
Lust..... im not sure... maybe scars brother???
Pride was created by dante
Greed was created by dante
Gluttony i think dante... i dont remember
Xd i just ruined the series for you

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....and you're doing this why? There was like no one who asked about it!!!
[spoiler] a little correction: yes Lust was created by scar's brother. Also, Envy is somewhat dead (he's on the other side in our world), Gluttony is unknown, and yes Wrath is alive [/spoiler]
ymsg
May 1 2005, 02:33 PM
I have to second Guest. Why mention that? lol
Sonic-Teal
May 1 2005, 02:46 PM
Damn you SpoilerKing!!!!!!!! Oh well Iwill forget this all in a week or so so meh. Oh yeah I have a question I dont know if it is a spoiler or not so I will scroll down just in case
Ok the question: Do Ed and gang go to the Ishbalin Encampment or Rush Valley first, or do they only go to Rush Valley in the manga?
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