Full Flame Alchemist
Jan 27 2005, 12:55 PM
Has anyone seen the new zelda for GC and who's getting it??
hitokiri
Jan 27 2005, 02:02 PM
yeah i'll be getting it
realistic lookin link = good
windwaker link = not so much
Quistis88
Jan 27 2005, 02:07 PM
Man . . . Windwaker Link took a while to get used to. Not that I've played the game (except for the time when it was a demo in game stores), but I've seen pictures. Very different art style.

Since I don't have a GC, I'm not getting it.
konic vince
Jan 27 2005, 06:52 PM
Man...me being a big Zelda fan, I got Wind Waker hoping the new look wouldn't interfere too much with gameplay and fun...but it did

I didn't enjoy Wind Waker. That's why I'm looking forward to this one. It doesn't have a title yet right? I saw the trailer, it looks incredible...
Apple Juice
Jan 27 2005, 07:10 PM
I'll be picking this up. Wind Waker's graphics where amazing. I absolutely loved the style.
blueices
Jan 27 2005, 08:30 PM
The only reason I wanted GC was for the Zelda game, but when I saw the cell shaded style, I chose against it.
News that the new one will go back to a more realistic look is great. (so if it looks promising, I'll get GC)
Where can I see the trailer?
Edit: Nevermind. Trailer can be watched here:
new Zelda game
IronFlame
Jan 27 2005, 09:01 PM
Wind waker is great with it's graphics style, battles system and control system other than that it's a tad too short but then not all people like long games.
Bleacher_Pirate
Jan 28 2005, 03:03 AM
i am deffintly going to pick up the new zelda game. i'm a huge fan and this game looks awesome. i'd also agree with the whole wind waker graphics. they were...different, to say the least but i still got the game and played it. the story line was so so, the fighting was fun but it just didn't have the essence of zelda, at least not to me. the new one is looking amazing though, can't wait to get it.
Le Monkey
Jan 28 2005, 03:07 AM
Tihs game is definately going to be baught, I will have it on pre-order from the US so Ill have it early!!
Red alchemist of the sky
Jan 28 2005, 05:43 AM
I'M SO GOING TO GET THE GC ZELDA.
THE GRAPHICS LOOK SO AMAZING!
THIS IS ONE ZELDA GAME THAT IS A MUST TO PLAY!
Full Metalloid Alchemist
Jan 29 2005, 09:41 PM
i might buy a gc for this game alone, it looks amazing
Ailuro
Jan 29 2005, 11:05 PM
Me getting the new Zelda game?
Of course I'm gonna get it, you foo'.(was that too big?

)
Quistis88
Jan 29 2005, 11:11 PM
QUOTE(Ailuro @ Jan 29 2005, 11:05 PM)
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Oh, deshi, you crack me up.
Ailuro
Jan 29 2005, 11:30 PM
Har har. I forgot a word in there. 8D
ingemperor
Jan 30 2005, 06:47 AM
this game looks awesome and might just take over echoes in fav games, but ill have to wait for ages for this game
Aqua_Alchemist
Jan 30 2005, 09:15 AM
Yeah it looks very good. But a lack of information makes me a little skeptical, and it's out in a few months.....
By the way it's name is 'The Gates of the Realm' I heard.
(Also link looks very kewl with his swords at the end of the trailer, very prince of persia-ish

)
Ailuro
Jan 30 2005, 09:51 AM
The Gates of the Realm? Awesome~! =D
During that trailor I had a slight LoTR mood.
Aqua_Alchemist
Feb 3 2005, 02:01 PM
^^ I know how you feel, this is going to be
epic
white dragon knight
Feb 3 2005, 02:03 PM
Yes it looks great, and im definitly gonna buy it
Ghost
Feb 3 2005, 04:57 PM
I try to be understanding, but I can't help having a slight prejudice against people who say Wind Waker "isn't Zelda-ish." You got your quest, your tri-force, your Master Sword, your dungeons, your Ganon, your Zelda, your assorted gizmos and artifacts etc. Just because it didn't play like a carbon copy of every other previous Zelda game is no reason to discard it. And for god sake the game mechanics were exactly...exactly like Ocarina of Time. If anything they smoothed out some clunkiness. But it was obviously a "why fix what ain't broke" approach, so don't even try to tell me that just because Link had a football for a head, the game played differently.
I can understand people not liking the Saturday morning cartoon look. I liked it myself, but that's not what I'm bitching about. I'm just sick of people trying to disguise their aesthetic disapproval as an educated concern regarding foundation of the game. Really, when you get down to it, it plays like every other Zelda game. You happen to sail between locations rather than running. That's the only difference besides the plot, which differs from game to game anyway.
Having said that (and probably made a bunch of enemies), I think we can all agree: The new one looks better than everything ever.
I mean, holy crap! Link FINALLY gets to look like the badass we've all known he was since ever. And CHAIN MAIL. Link finally gets ARMOR. You can see it poking out from under his requisite grass-green tunic. Ack! God! SO COOL! And battling from horseback!! Omfg it's so ----in' awesome.
And, to finally answer the question posed by the topic, yes. I will be acquiring said game. P.S. omfg d00d chain mail omg omg
Ailuro
Feb 3 2005, 05:20 PM
I loved WindWaker! It was very entertaining! I agree with you 100%,
Ghost.
blueices
Feb 3 2005, 07:41 PM
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 3 2005, 06:57 PM)
Having said that (and probably made a bunch of enemies), I think we can all agree: The new one looks better than everything ever.
I mean, holy crap! Link FINALLY gets to look like the badass we've all known he was since ever. And CHAIN MAIL. Link finally gets ARMOR. You can see it poking out from under his requisite grass-green tunic. Ack! God! SO COOL! And battling from horseback!! Omfg it's so ----in' awesome.
And, to finally answer the question posed by the topic, yes. I will be acquiring said game. P.S. omfg d00d chain mail omg omg
I won't deny it. I didn't buy game cube because of the cellshaded style of Windwalker. Since Zelda was the only game I was waiting for, I didn't see a point of buying the system otherwise. (I think I admitted it before) I wasn't about to shell out that much cash for something I didn't find attractive. For me, the video game's story is very very important, but since you're staring at the tv for hours on end, you better like what's on the screen, right?
Moving on to the most important topic:
I completely didn't notice the CHAIN MAIL!!! [blue sprints back to watch trailer and drools] Can't wait!
There was a hint of badass link in OoT when he first becomes an adult. (If I remember correctly, he senses Sheik behind him and very memorably whips out his sword in quite a kickass fashion)
There was also darkLink (one of my faves....even though he was only around for 4 minutes
)
Ghost
Feb 4 2005, 06:00 AM
Oh totally. I can't say it any clearer than you just did; if you don't like what you're looking at it's gonna be difficult to watch. I got nothing against people who say, "I didn't play Wind Waker 'cause I didn't like the style."
I simply respond, "Yeah it's too bad though. You miss out on a killer game." Although, as I mentioned previously I may still be a little prejudiced toward people who dislike cel-shaded cartoon style. I ain't saying it's rational of me. But there it is. I try to remain open towards people, since it's ridiculous to write someone off for something as silly as aesthetic disagreements. Still, no matter how much I rationalize and attempt to make myself be logical...there's still a little voice in the background saying, "Oh come on, it can't be that big a deal, can it? I mean, shit once you get used to it you realize what a good job they did graphically. They achieved exactly what they were striving for, how can you not respect that!?"
But I really mean no disrespect here. I know it's just a difference of opinions, and I'm trying to rein in my righteous rage. I've been raging righteously all goddamn day, so It's a little like trying to stop a vehicle in motion. I've already got lots of momentum.
And um, yeah. For real! Chain mail! How badass is that!? And the hyper-realistic, dark style? I may've enjoyed Wind Waker, and been able to appreciate it's style, but This is way, WAY cooler!!
Oh yeah you're totally right, future Hyrule was pretty badass. And teen-Link was pretty awesome too. I figured he heard her silent ninja footsteps because he's that bad ass. And yeah, he whips out his piece like all, "wtf u want nigga??" and Sheik is all (in Morpheus' voice), "I'm here...to free your mind."
Okay I don't know what shit I'm even talking about anymore, that's how excited for this new Zelda game I am. And dude, yeah Dark Link and don't forget Fierce Diety Link. I thought of them when I mentioned the 'link-being-cool' thing but I didn't mention them because one isn't Link (really) and the other is like fifty stories tall and only exists in some whack backwards land where up is down and mud is money. You know what I'm talking about. Like maybe if Godzilla ever starts stomping around the Zoran lakes and menacing Hyrule, then Link'll know just what to do...but until that point it's pretty much just reserved for parties. Some people put a lampshade on their head; some people grow thirty meters and whip out a swanky helix-sword. Why was it christmas colored though? Those Japanese and their fascination with Christmas. What the hell is up with that?
I really liked Majora's Mask. It should've been called Link Through the Looking Glass.
But yeah Link could only look so cool when his nose had to be registered as a deadly 64-bit blade with the Hyrule Police Dept. Miyamoto did his best with what he had at the time, to be sure. (Do I even have that name right? I need to go to freakin' sleep).
Note: I originally typed that last sentence, "I don't do to ferakin' sleep." So, case in point. STOP ME! STOP ME BEFORE I SPAM AGAIN!!
blueices
Feb 4 2005, 07:37 AM
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 4 2005, 08:00 AM)
And um, yeah.
For real! Chain mail! How badass is that!? And the hyper-realistic, dark style? I may've enjoyed Wind Waker, and been able to appreciate it's style, but
This is way, WAY cooler!!Oh yeah you're totally right, future Hyrule was pretty badass. And teen-Link was pretty awesome too. I figured he heard her silent ninja footsteps because he's
that bad ass. And yeah, he whips out his piece like all, "wtf u want nigga??" and Sheik is all (in Morpheus' voice), "I'm here...to free your mind."
Okay I don't know what shit I'm even talking about anymore,
that's how excited for this new Zelda game I am. And dude, yeah Dark Link and don't forget Fierce Diety Link. I thought of them when I mentioned the 'link-being-cool' thing but I didn't mention them because one isn't Link (really) and the other is like fifty stories tall and only exists in some whack backwards land where up is down and mud is money. You know what I'm talking about. Like maybe if Godzilla ever starts stomping around the Zoran lakes and menacing Hyrule, then Link'll know just what to do...but until that point it's pretty much just reserved for parties. Some people put a lampshade on their head; some people grow thirty meters and whip out a swanky helix-sword. Why was it christmas colored though? Those Japanese and their fascination with Christmas. What the hell is up with that?
I really liked Majora's Mask. It should've been called Link Through the Looking Glass.
But yeah Link could only look so cool when his nose had to be registered as a deadly 64-bit blade with the Hyrule Police Dept. Miyamoto did his best with what he had at the time, to be sure. (Do I even have that name right? I need to go to freakin' sleep).
Note: I originally typed that last sentence, "I don't do to ferakin' sleep." So, case in point. STOP ME! STOP ME BEFORE I
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Your post just made my morning (hillarious) And yes, I know exactly what you mean with weird Christmas Party link in Majora's mask. (Through the looking glass would have definitely been a better title)
The one thing that killed me with Majora's Mask was that the saving system screwed me twice on the upside down level. I had just beaten the boss and was looking for the last fairy when the game FROZE (I thought I could cry cause it had almost taken "6hrs" to do the high speed Goron roll to the chest in that lava area (I wonder if you know what I mean) ?_? (This happened twice!....so the thought of the new Zelda game having that saving system scares me for that very reason)
Ryuji1314
Feb 4 2005, 10:38 AM
it actually looks really good. I think I might get it if I try it out first.
Ghost
Feb 4 2005, 04:58 PM
Dude, Ices that totally sucks. Did you ever finish Majora's Mask? If not I urge you to give that game another shot. The home stretch before the end of the game gets so f--king creepy it's awesome. And I never had any saving problems...at least none that I can recall, so maybe your copy was screwed up or something.
Holy Dude! I just watched that preview; it's the same one (almost) that I saw before, only with better music. I'm gonna look for more videos, if I find any good ones, do people want me to link them here?
ChibiEdwardElric
Feb 5 2005, 01:34 AM
There's a trailer out there somewhere?
I've been stuck with screenshots.
The best thing about Zelda is it never changes, unless you play four swords, that sucked.
I can't wait for the new game. That's the game they should have made for the gamecube the first time around. Link looks so hot older and there won't be no complaints about the kiddy look because there isn't one.
Yeah, I can't wait. I think I'll go sketch him out.
I love all the Zelda games, except those dumbass CD-I Games though I don't consider those Zelda games at all
Ryuji1314
Feb 5 2005, 10:05 AM
well basically all Zelda games are the best except for like Zelda 2, (which I think sucks) but this one is going to be the real hit I think. I mean A Link to the Past was a freaking great game and there were other ones, but that one was awesome. I think this new one is going to be as good as A Link in the Past or maybe even better.
Ghost
Feb 6 2005, 06:02 AM
Y'know what's funny? I didn't like Link to the Past. I thought it was really boring, and way too hard. Although the boring might've been because of the hard. Couldn't get past the insane battering-ram worm thing in the temple where it keeps knocking you through holes in the floor down to lower floors.
That, and the plot didn't engage me in the least.
On another note; I know it's what a lot of hard-core Zelda fans are after, but I will never be able to agree that lack of change is a desirable quality. To be sure, certain thematic elements run like a thread through each game, but for the most part I don't like the "if you've played one you've played them all" feel in my games. It's why I loved Majora's Mask so much, and Wind Waker. They were similar, therefore familiar, but different enough to be fun to discover. Ocarina of Time was new, obviously, because it was the first 3D adventure (again, discounting those awful CDi games), but they also added a lot to the formula to make it unique beyond that. It wasn't just Link in three dimensions, but the temples and environments were so...in character. Certain temples were creepy, mysterious... Nintendo squeezed those environments like an orange, and atmosphere came out.
But as for the entries in the Zelda lineage which do little more than mimic their predecessors, I can't say they hold my interest much. (Link's Awakening was my first, btw)
But as for this new game, it looks like they've taken Link and thrown him somewhere he's never been... into an epic. The Balrog (let's not kid ourselves) and the battlefields and even, hell, just the look of his design seems to create a sense of largeness that's never been in Zelda before. The quests have always been fairly personal with Link, as have the environments you tend to explore. There's usually little more room in a chamber than what there needs to be, and no more enemies than you can reasonably handle. Which is cool too. But I really like the idea of battling a horde, or squaring off against a massive fire-monster. Slicing at marauding moblins from horseback...bah anyway, I don't have anything mroe to say, the rest is just gushing so I'll stem the tide for now.
Ryuji1314
Feb 6 2005, 11:05 AM
has anybody tried the Minish Cap yet? my couz said it was pretty good, but I still prefer the ones on SNES. Even though the new one looks pretty tight
Aqua_Alchemist
Feb 7 2005, 01:07 PM
QUOTE
Y'know what's funny? I didn't like Link to the Past. I thought it was really boring, and way too hard. Although the boring might've been because of the hard. Couldn't get past the insane battering-ram worm thing in the temple where it keeps knocking you through holes in the floor down to lower floors.
Link to the past was bloody amazing, probably my favorite. And yes I found it hard on SNES, because you couldn't save at dungeons, but on GBA, I found it easy, completed it in a day or two lol. Guess my gaming prowess has improved.
WW was good, just the sailing was boring (especially getting triforce pieces) and the proper zelda action was few and far between. Also the final ganondorf fight was quite...rubbish nothing on Ganon from OoT, it explains nothing as well. How did ganondorf return, it messes up the plot which put OoT as a prequel to LtP. Ahh well.
Zelda 2 isn't too bad, give it another shot. It is very hard and different, but is good in it's own way.
Finally Majora's Mask is the equal best Zelda game in my view (with LtP). It features the best characters, involving storyline (more so than OoT), pushing you onwards, the urge to get those kewl new items, and is overall one of the most FUN Zelda games.
Minish cap is damn good by the way, too short, but full of good involving puzzles, very original as well. In fact all of the Gameboy Zelda's have been damn good (cept for LtP which was a remake). I can't wait to see what happens on the DS.....
Ryuji1314
Feb 7 2005, 04:04 PM
yeah they were all practickly pretty good, i didn't like 2 though, i thought it was really bad
Kast
Feb 7 2005, 04:25 PM
Is this actually a question? Who wouldn't get the game?!?! Too good to pass up in my opinion...
Ryuji1314
Feb 7 2005, 06:44 PM
QUOTE(Kast @ Feb 7 2005, 03:25 PM)
Is this actually a question? Who wouldn't get the game?!?! Too good to pass up in my opinion...
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ummm yeah it is a question... a lot of people don't like Legend of Zelda, and the person that started this topic wanted to get some insight on it, so that he could see if he is going to waste money on it or not
Ghost
Feb 8 2005, 09:07 AM
QUOTE(Aqua)
...the sailing was boring.
Ah, see perhaps this was what turned many people off from the game (aside from the aesthetic direction). On the other hand, I really enjoyed the sailing. Many times I wound up miles from my destination, just because I was haing so much fun sailing that I wasn't paying attention to where I was going. But I can see that definitely not being for everyone. It strongly reminded me of one of my favorite books though, so there was that personal influence as well.
As for the chronology of the Zelda games, I was under the impression that, officially, none of the games had any concrete order until Ocarina was followed by Mask (which was really a funky side-story type thing anyway, as I understood it, much like Awakening) and then Wind Waker following after. All the games prior to that seemed to have little to do with each other, as far as a linear sense of development goes.
I'm not a super-hardcore Zelda fan though, so I wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong about this. Still, it seems unlikely that Ocarina and Link to the Past could coexist in the same timeline, unless ocurring several centuris apart, as is suggested by Wind Waker's 'reincarnation' backstory.
And since I'm not totally familiar with it, you'll have to explain exactly why Ganon's exposition in Wind Waker interferes with the established chronolgy. I'm curious about that.
And I wonder how this new game will fit into the scheme, if at all...?
Aqua_Alchemist
Feb 8 2005, 10:02 AM
^^ At the end of Ocarina of Time, Ganon gets sealed in the Golden Power world, which is to become the 'Dark World' from Ltp. If you watch the Ltp starting sequence as well, it tells how 7 sages sealed Ganon in the Golden Power world, sound familar to the end of OoT?? Well in WW, for starters it doesn't explain how Ganon returned, and how the heck he received his Ganondorf form again (in Ltp he is still Ganon remember, like the one from OoT). And yes Ltp must be set thousands of years apart from OoT for this to work, I even believe, in an interview with one of the producers of OoT, it is mentioned as a prequel to Ltp, but I'll have to check that up (*digs out old Nintendo magazines

*)
Also the sailing in WW was good, for a while, I think it was really the triforce search that put me off it though...
Ryuji1314
Feb 10 2005, 06:55 AM
to tell the truth, I never played WW, it looked okay, and the sailing thing looked likes tons of fun, but I didn't have time. I should probably try it sometime
Full Flame Alchemist
Feb 11 2005, 12:54 PM
QUOTE
ummm yeah it is a question... a lot of people don't like Legend of Zelda, and the person that started this topic wanted to get some insight on it, so that he could see if he is going to waste money on it or not
Um...I wanted to know what you think.
Anyway,Ghost is right about Wind Waker and Balrog.
As for the name,it's undecided, so anything you hear is just a rumour.People thought Wind Waker was going to be called 'Conductor of the winds'
'Link through the looking glass.'
Ghost
Feb 12 2005, 07:57 PM
Well I'm pretty sure the Zelda games don't really have a chronology, as much as a series of cute homages to each other. But maybe you're right, and there is supposed to be a lineage.
What happens at the end of Link to the Past? Couldn't it come in between Ocarina and Wind Waker? The Wind Waker intro says that Ganon came back and Link wasn't around to kick his ass (presumably because he was off in...mask-land). And at the end of Mask...I don't remember what happens, but there's no telling how long he spent there.
Link from 'to the Past is obviously not the same Link, because he has pink hair and is the son of that guy, in the beginning. Though I think it's a strong likelihood that 'to the Past's Link and his dad are descendants of the Hero of Time. But I don't see why this would preclude Wind Waker's events occuring thousands of years down the line. But then; I don't know how 'to the Past ends.
Ryuji1314
Feb 12 2005, 11:32 PM
QUOTE(Ghost @ Feb 12 2005, 06:57 PM)
Well I'm pretty sure the Zelda games don't really have a chronology, as much as a series of cute homages to each other. But maybe you're right, and there is supposed to be a lineage.
What happens at the end of Link to the Past? Couldn't it come in between Ocarina and Wind Waker? The Wind Waker intro says that Ganon came back and Link wasn't around to kick his ass (presumably because he was off in...mask-land). And at the end of Mask...I don't remember what happens, but there's no telling how long he spent there.
Link from 'to the Past is obviously not the same Link, because he has pink hair and is the son of that guy, in the beginning. Though I think it's a strong likelihood that 'to the Past's Link and his dad are descendants of the Hero of Time. But I don't see why this would preclude Wind Waker's events occuring thousands of years down the line. But then; I don't know how 'to the Past ends.
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Vrtually, it ends with you killing Ganon and then saving everything (like usual) I can't remember anything else.
blueices
Feb 21 2005, 12:38 AM
Hey it's Ghost's Birthday!
Happy Birtday! [Blue hands a triforce shaped cake over to ghost]

As for whether I ever finished Majora's mask the answer is no. (I got too pissed off at my cartridge when that happened over Thanksgiving so the game has been in hiatus ever since)
I'll probably finish up the game over spring break though (I'll let you know of the creepy factor soon enough)
Xithion
Feb 22 2005, 11:42 PM
Yeah I'll be getting it. I've played every Zelda game ever made so I might as well continue doing the same.
Ryuji1314
Feb 23 2005, 08:45 PM
I liked Majora's mask, I thought it was pretty good... I have to try Windwaker and I have to try Minish Cap and those are the only ones left for me...
Full Flame Alchemist
Feb 27 2005, 01:35 AM
It's offical.The new zelda is set after Wind Waker.
Blade Alchemist
Feb 27 2005, 09:53 AM
I love Zelda

, my favs are Zelda 3, Ocarina, and Majora's Mask. I can't wait for the next one the only thing i'm not going to like is that they're going to keep the stupid thing where when you kill a monster the burst into dark wind.
the fire alchemist
Feb 27 2005, 06:36 PM
Yep, I have probably every other Zelda game ever made so of course. My collection can't be complete. Besides I need a new game to beat.
Full Flame Alchemist
Mar 13 2005, 10:20 AM

WOWWWWW!!!!!!! Has anyone here seen the new zelda trailer!!! It's amazing! There's a gohma and a wolf and a tatoo goron thing and a cat and a statue and some ghosts and......

Do you want to see it? Well,first go
hereand then click on video!!!!
Ryuji1314
Mar 13 2005, 10:29 AM
yeah it's a good intro. I can't wait till this, then I'll basically be complete. I have almost all the Zelda games (even if I don't have the system) and I need this one and a couple more.
Full Flame Alchemist
Mar 13 2005, 10:31 AM
here's a pic from the trailer!
Ryuji1314
Mar 13 2005, 11:31 AM
I like the horse battles and the battle with the fire thing that resembles the Balrog from LOTR...
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