viki-san took the words out of my mouth (i was about to quote the manga when i read her post ).

and we could argue that even if selim is adopted in the fuhrer's case, there is no physical evidence that it's not possible for a homunculus to have children (al's information has a high chance of being purely theoretical-- he does say "according to books..."); i know because i thought about it after i read chapter 48: i was left feeling "until the moment i see a homunculus with a slashed abdomen and notice no reproductive organs, i cannot dismiss the theory!" (yuck! experimentation has its limits, ugh).

but then i thought about it some more and came to a conclusion... i'd say that just the fact that they have these superhuman abilities proves that their anatomies are different to ours. which means there's all the more evidence pointing in the direction that they CAN'T reproduce. they're created with the philosopher's stone-- there must be some genetic discrepancy than with the natural conception of a human. there are probably many things you can create with the same chemical composition as a human being; and probably at least one of them must look almost identical to a human, but cannot have all our capabilities. these kind of, er, "creations" are often sterile or have other problems. for example cloned creatures often present fragile health and instability. or they could be rather like a mule, which is a sterile hybrid, but i'm not going so deep into genetics right now. i'd only confuse myself i just think that it's only fair that if they have these extended lifespans and these powers that are decidedly superior to humans in the evolutionary sense (and they don't even SEEM soulless anyway), that they have the drawback of being sterile, whether they have the necessary organs or not. they can't just get all the good stuff us humans have and more

besides, i can't very much imagine the elric brothers thinking about their mother's reproductive organs when they were trying to bring her back to life so the homunculus that resulted would probably not have them...

i have a feeling this post made no sense. haha

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Yes they can, I mean in episode 50 you see pride go home and give his son a gift.

But then again like dante said, pride is the only one to age like a normal human can.

Also if you think about it, the only difference between a human and a Humunculous (besides the powers) is that a Humunculous can't remeber their past.

Gravity... that little boy is Selim, Pride's ADOPTED son.

The other difference between human and homunculous is that they're immortal, capable of self-regeneration, and they need "red stones" to survive.

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in the manga their bodies are created by the philosopher's stone and not by failed human alchemy... oh and envy does remember, he/she knows that he/she is hohenheim and dante's son, remember? He/she even knows how she/he died. so far only Pride didn't have a past -- a plot hole? [/spoiler]

assuming that they can reproduce, they'd have tons of kids by now, especially envy since he/she is more than 100 years old in the anime. And why would Pride adopt selim if he can reproduce and not have a child of his own instead?

i'm not being close-minded but these are the facts i've gathered from the series both manga and anime. anything beyond that is fiction to me.

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in the manga their bodies are created by the philosopher's stone and not by failed human alchemy... [/spoiler]
OK, this is what i know (both real/fma) for homunculus. Envy was hohenheim/dante's son (died of mecury poising), Lust was scar's brothers gf, sloth was the elric's mom, and the rest i CAN NOT vouch for do to tv not showing all the episodes yet. any background on the rest of them, pm me with it please.
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assuming that they can reproduce, they'd have tons of kids by now, especially envy since he/she is more than 100 years old in the anime. And why would Pride adopt selim if he can reproduce and not have a child of his own instead?[/qoute]
why would he have kids? even if he could, i dont see why Envy would. Lust maybe.
He'd adopt if the child would be deformed (as real storys reported) but adoption would lessin the idea he was a homunculi.

(this is extra) one of them had a child. he was the most "human" of them all.
"those of us who seem most human are the ones to fear" is from a movie about homunculus (forgot the name, its in german.) and there are 7 of them too.
now in this movie they can have children but only with each other, untill one finds a way (not a stone, but an elixer thing.) to become more human and keep his "powers".
his child was the "magic" useing homunculus, thus creating the legand the story dirived from.

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closed minded would be yelling at us to stop quetioning trivial bs and get back to church. thats closed minded. you are not that, no one i've met here is.

in my studies, most were missing limbs and such, but the internal structure (only moved around a bit) worked just fine. one was reported having a child. it was a side note in a book so i have no clue on ferther details, but it was with a human.
they used to try and place homunculus "fetuses" in wombs of barrin women to "fix" their problems. one was reported sucessful birth, but it was autistic and deformed. he burned up in the fireplace at age 5. wait, that was off topic, but the rest goes with it.

ok, i'm done babling on, for now anyway!

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1-who is Ran Fan?
2-Why can't he?
3-Where in the manga does it say any of this?
I just want to read it so i'm not so confused.

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could somebody show me a picture of all the humunculi?
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there ya go! (it was found on this site by a friend who sent it to me. thats all i know. great work though!)

Humunculous can't have children, or at least that's what it said in the manga.

RanFan was hurt, they were hiding out in this old house, -they includes some military dogs- and a doctor person was with them. RanFans master -forgot his name- had been attacked by pride -for those who know who he is- and pride was comanding gluttony. When he told them about it, the doctor said that Humunculous can't have children. And then he said that Pride's son was addopted, not his own flesh and blood.

I really should get a life.

Sounds like you have one!
Where exactly in the manga is the conversation above?
I want to see it for myself to make sure i understand it fully.

BAM!

THANKS!

If they are like nomal people, I think so. but they might not be able to also.

Ugh... I have asked myself the same question before and just came up with more. Well, I think it should be possible because a homunculus can be male or female and they have the same organs as a human, but they're souless and not even close to being a human as Dante says. This came up with me when I saw Pride had a wife and a son named Selim, but he may just be adopted.

But then most believe that a homunculus is only produced by a failed human transmutation, but ones like Greed and Pride were made by mainly inserting the stone into there bodies.God, it is very confusing thing tht just comes up with more questions.

Oh, and if i can try to clear all of this up, for the people who keep on asking about it, with the thing about Envy aving Ed's child, is not related to the show at all. It's called M-Preg and is used on all kinds of charactors from all anime in fan-fictions.

Selim is adopted, Hohenheim says so when Mustang asks about Bradley being a Homunculus.

The 'soulless' nature of the homunculi would not itself affect whether or not they can reproduce. If it only comes down to functional sexual organs, then the parent's soul has nothing to do with it.

Greed and Pride were created in that way in the manga, not the anime, where we're not told exactly what happened when they were created.

Oh, MPreg turns up everywhere in fandom.

not normally (well not in the manga) im not sure about the anime

Pride has a kid... in the anime...

Since Pride has a kid and a wife, then yeah. I guess they can have children

@:cookie: - Selim is adopted, not Bradley's biological son.

I always thougt Humunculi can't have children, because they are artificial-made humans.
... urg. first I wanted to say that Humunculi are made with the help of the Philosophers Stone, then I wanted to write that they are made by faild human transmutation. Well. that's the problem with the difference between the Manga and the Anime. >_< But in neither of them they can get children. oO it's just... absurd. >_< Why creating something artificial, when it's going to happen much easier with the help of good old nature? oO

XD

I didnt read all the post, so i didnt see that... my bad. But i get it now! =D

Wait a second... I'm not certain if they can or can not have kids, but WOULD they? I mean, they're soul-less. I'm sure they don't Want kids -.-

It could go either way...

I think that they CANT have kids... because i agree with you SharpShooterHawkeye, theyre soul-less and they probably dont want any...

I think they can, but they just don't want to. After all, Sloth said she didn't want the memories of Ed and Al, and that she did not want to start loving them as such. But, if they really wanted to, I guess think they could.

Besides, they needed another homunculus in the series to yell out "Mommy!" all the time. Wrath was annoying.

They might not want children, but if the artificial forms of homunculi are exact physical copies of human beings, then they might be physically capable of reproduction.

That said, I'm having a hard time envisaging a homunculus child. If its parents are 'artificial', what would that make it? One point further removed from human, because it is the 'natural' creation of something inherently unnatural? Would such a being possess a soul, a conscious mind? Would it even be classed as a homunculus, as it would not be the direct product of human transmutation?

It would have a body certainly, but the vague alchemical science of creating anime-verse homunculi (this is in the anime thread, afterall) doesn't entirely account for how a sense of 'self' would come into play. Homunculi do seem to possess such an identity.

Why do the parents both have to be homunculi? If a homunculus has the same exact physical form of a human, maybe they can reproduce with a human

I doubt we will ever know the official answer, since it's not really that important to the series.

XD Yeah, he was. No offense fir the people who like Wrath.

although, at times hes really cool!

I dunno...
In the manga they can´t n_ñ
In the Anime, Hiromu don´t say it U.U

I really think that they can´t make children and they don´t want children XD

Imagine:

Envy: Envy Junior!! Come here right now!! Your mom Lust is talking to you!
Envy Jr: Yes daddy!! (Evil eyes)
Envy: n_ñ You´re just like me
Lust: Envy!! Jr..... I need you to defeat Edward Elric... Go now with your father
Envy Jr: Yes mommy!! (Evil smile)

XD LOL

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LOL!!!!

They don't, of course, but the idea of considering what a child with one homunculus parent would be like was even more confusing. And no, we won't have an official answer but then this is the sort of thing fandom speculation is for (well, there are more pertinent questions then this, but still....).

No, homunculi can't have children. It was proven in volume 13 of the FMA manga, I believe. I may be a little off.

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Bradley proved it, by saying his son, Selith, was adopted, because homunculi cannot reproduce.

But evidence for one argument in the manga doesn't necessarily hold true for the anime, especially considering the differences in both when it comes to the creation of the homunculi.

hmm, well maybe if you think of it like a homunculous is like a clone..then yes they can have children. because clones are made artificially like homunculi are..so, I think so...