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Fresh_Coffee
But if we are both dillusional perhaps, it's not a corner at all. *___* I blame the heat for my odd sentence as well.


Ah, when I'm at home we have 'central air'. Central air.. my butt! sleep.gif It's as hot as it is outside except minus the breeze. XD I can't sleep at times when it's really hot but , then again I can sleep through anything, even if you're pumping up music to the loudest it can be, I'll still be asleep =P Do you have nightmares of having to be in the heat, slowly dying? ph34r.gif

*__* I guess you could say my addiction is still here but I'm suprised I was able to take a fourm break for so long. Eventually I won't even visit this site, blink.gif seems hard to believe now. Congrats you made it a year here! Some people don't make it the first week XD


It was awhile ago.. so , I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure it was a songfile though. '_' Then again my memory is fading. I remember listening to kouji's songfile and finding it hilarous as well.

Flesh juice? ph34r.gif I remember visting gassy's profile once, which lead me to a funny engrish site. =3 Engrish cracks me up everytime.
Kasumi
But if it wasn't a corner, then does that mean the "wall" I smashed into wasn't really a wall? ph34r.gif

From time to time, I'd have nightmares of myself slowly dying, but not from the heat. More like drowning or having a bullet wound. ph34r.gif

Hm... I can't say I've actually taken a forum break. Those few times I suddenly "disappeared," I was forced to stay away. Not at will. (well, I guess willpower was required when I needed to stay away because of the exams) happy.gif tongue.gif

XD The digimon cast can't sing. (with the exception of Yamato and Mimi, but they're on the edge too... Hikari, as soothing as her songs were, it was the songs I liked, not so much the singing... biggrin.gif;;)

I still remember me and friend laughing uncontrollably at engrish back in elementary school. I should go and check if that engrish site is still up and running.
Fresh_Coffee
ph34r.gif No, I'm pretty sure that was a wall. Are we getting back to our earlier conversation whether you were programmed to feel? biggrin.gif


You have some scary dreams there, Kasumi. '_' Suprisenly, I haven't had a dream about me dying yet. ph34r.gif I did have a dream where I woke up crying.


You're strong kasumi. =3 I probably wouldn't have the willpower to stay away from the computer at all. '_' Even for exams.. well that's about to change in a couple of months. XD

Aren't Yamato and Mimi the two characters that are suppose to sing very well, since it's their talent? '_' I'm sure.. some of their voices weren't that bad. Don't tell me it's true ph34r.gif

You should, so we can laugh about. XD
Kasumi
Uh, but what does the wall have anything to do with our earlier conversation of being programmed to feel?

Those dreams aren't so scary when I wake up. It's nightmares that involve those who are close to me that disturbs me. My mom told me, that when I was younger, I used to cry in my sleep. biggrin.gif;;

You'll have to if you plan on getting good marks on the exam. wink.gif You simply can't afford the time to come here so often anymore.

Yamato is supposed to sing well because he's a rock star. wink.gif But I'm pretty sure the writers wouldn't put him in the rockstar position if he can't sing. As for Mimi, her voice actor was also a singer. The same person who sung all the ending songs for Digimon.

And here's the engrish site! http://www.engrish.com/
Have a good laugh! laugh.gif
Fresh_Coffee
well it's the same type of subject, like questions whether or not you're really here or not if we exisit. Just like how we had a conversation about whether or not you could feel. '_' I'm confusing you aren't I?


I've had some pretty scary dreams.. and when I wake up I'm all sweaty. '_' I don't actually remember what happens. I think I had a dream about the end of the world once. >D aww, crying Kasumi I want to see that.


I will *_* I hope. I'm pretty sure I'll be that kid staying up late for the last few weeks to study.

You mentioning him being a rock star reminds me of that dreaded, 'rejecting Tai moment.' It's too much to bear.

www.engrish.com? XD thank you.. I must remember it. happy.gif
Kasumi
*chuckles* Do we own this thread or what? laugh.gif Not that I'm complaining. biggrin.gif

Actually, I understood what you said perfectly. happy.gif;; Surprising? Nah. XD Ok, so we both agree the wall was there? Good. tongue.gif

huh.gif And why would you want to see me cry? *is suspicious of Coffee*

Staying up late on the last few weeks before the exam? You must be a real dedicated student. tongue.gif Then again, it depends on what kind of school you go to. Semestered or non-semestered.

*sniffs* Poor Taichi...
But going back, I liked Yamato's dubbed voice too. His singing wasn't bad. Somehow, the lyrics of the Teenage-Wolves song in the dub reminded me of Taiora. Ironic?

If you check that site out, go to the sign/poster section. Most of the funny engrish are there. Though, a few of them aren't very appropriate. *cough*
Fresh_Coffee
Well, it's not our fault that nobody else likes to talk about digimon every 5 minutes. rolleyes.gif XD Yay! We can have a 'virtual' party and nobody will ever know.

You did? You see, you are beginning to understand me. biggrin.gif Yes, the wall was there, on the wall was a picture of Fury. *moves picture of fury in a circular motion*

ph34r.gif Always suspicous of me! I just want to see you cry... *shifty eyes*. Just like you were suspicous of me trying to convert you to Fury-ism. *moves picture of fury in a circular motion*

Of course I am a dedicated student , that's why I do these last minute for the thrill . =D I'm going to a non-semestered school, I'm going to York Memorial have you heard of it?


=_= That is so ironic, damn you Yamato, singing a song that reminds Kasumi of Taiora, it was ripped into pieces that day. =_= Such a tragedy *tear*. I actually liked that friendship dubbed song Mimi sang.

I must check. *checks* XD Engrish picture of the day is pretty funny. *snicker*
Guest
can anyone tell me what the hell caused takuya to turn into I'd say a wolf when he returned home in the episode"Home Again Takuya returns" sence i haven't seen digimon in like 1 year i forgot the other episodes but that one remains in my head still.the reason why i didn't see it again was because of my sister Chelsi she doesn't like it no more she's seen 4-5 episodes and went back to watching some shows on Disney Channel and PlayhouseDisney and she doesn't learnn from them she'll know how to behave like them,even dress like them too.Plus I only got to see 1 episode and it was "Home Again Takuya returns" sence my 2 friends are in the hospital know doing surgery on their left and right legs and one of their moms brought me to their home for 3 hours and i saw that he had Dirct TV and so i wanted to see if he had Toon Disney which he did and asked my sister do you want to watch Digital Monsters with me and she said"Fuck no I hate Digimon it sucks like H.E.L.L"so all i did was just go in the Livingroom/Den and saw another one and started to watch.1 hour later she comes to me and say"Can i watch DIGITAL MONSTERS too i said"Get the fuck out of my face,i thought you said you hate DIGITAL MONSTER"''as soon as i called her back to me she ran in the kitchen and told my friends mom on me she didn't care what a 2 year old girl says then she called my mom and mom said"what every Carolina says to you,you deserve it she watches disney with you in the day time and you don't watch her shows with her all you like out of all of her cartoon(anime)shows are just POKEMON,DBZ/GT,INUYASHA,FMA,DETECTIVE CONAN.Sence then in the day time i lock up in my room and watch my anime programs that i learn form and as she comes to my room door and tries to get me out i'll tell her to get the"fuuck away from my door because i'm not comming out forever uuntil where goning on the road or to get dinner,or what ever.Mom says"i got the right reason to stay in my room and watch tv,play video games,play with my Barbie house from when i was small.

Does anyone think that in the future there will be an anime/animation contest and show my sister why she should have watch animes like me and win a lot of stuff and she'll be so sorry i'd say my cousin he thinks that my sister and younger cousin is gonna be sorry because if me and my cousin enter then well definetly win the contest for sure and they'll be crying every day because the don't got no good stuff like me and my cousin.Plus i fell sorry that i'm not gonna come out of my room for a long time and if i do i'm gonna have to wear earmuffs to prevent me from hearing my sister or go sleading and not stay home and play with her stupid ass. dry.gif unsure.gif ohmy.gif laugh.gif
Kasumi
*winces upon post* Not in the best of mood at the moment... dry.gif

Guest, please refrain from swearing and writing run-on sentences. And this really isn't the place to complain about your life, I mean, yes, this thread goes WAY off-topic at times, but know where the boundaries are drawn.

As to your question... [spoiler]it was never properly explained why Takuya was transformed into Flamon. He was in a battle, then somehow got knocked into a dark terminal with a dark trailmon. The dark trailmon offered to take Takuya back to the real world, but as soon as he was there, he found himself trapped in the body of a Flamon. [/spoiler]

@Coffee: Technically, it's more than 5 minutes. There's at least a half-hour interval between our posts. tongue.gif

I'm beginning to understand Coffee. ph34r.gif Should I be scared? XD A picture of Fury? I thought that was a picture of Havoc. tongue.gif laugh.gif

You see, normally, people wouldn't want to see someone else cry. How could I not be suspicious? And I should be suspicious of you trying to convert me into Fury-ism. I'm already part of Mustangism. tongue.gif

Actually, what I meant was, last few weeks aren't last minute to me. The last week would be last minute. XD But you're going to a non-semestered highschool, so you'll definitely need to start weeks before. My school is semestered, so at most, I only have 4 "official" exams per semester. York Memorial? Isn't that in the York region? I thought you lived in Scarborough?

laugh.gif The Mimi song in the dub? The "I wanna sing a song" song? XD

No really, Yamato's song in the dub really reminded me of Taiora. I'll type up the lyrics later, and then you'll see why. biggrin.gif
Fresh_Coffee
*_* I didn't read any of that, sorry.

XD In virtual world it's '5 minutes' , alright fine it's 1 hour and half. XD Well, technically, more than a day right now.

laugh.gif You should be very scared.. you might start thinking like me. XD Who will be the more sensible one out of us? Kihaku doesn't count because she isn't here. No, I'm pretty sure that's a Fury picture. =3 I see a dog beside him.

XD Well, I'm not 'normal'. Somehow I would think seeing someone cry is cute =3 well.. if you are crying tears of joy. I am not trying to convert you into fury-ism, why would I do that when I'm part of mustangism as well? rolleyes.gif *puts tons of fury pictures into kasumi's pocket* biggrin.gif


Ah, I thought that's what you might have meant. =3 By few weeks I really meant the last 2. XD Yes, pray for me that I won't be my old lazy self. I live in North York ^^, if it helps I used to hang out in Scarbrough a lot. My home school is this school called, 'emery' but I was scared that the people might beat me up there.=D That area is very bad .. '_' and the friends of which I obtained.. =_= are kinda of dull. So, I got into the R.U.S.H program in York Memorial. =3


laugh.gif Yes, that song, ' I want to sing a song.' How original. XD

I shall be waiting for the lyrics.

=3 I hope you get into a better mood Kasumi.
Guest
if i'm happy which is 99% of the time you won't hear that word,and i was mad at my mom and dad yesturday for smashing my favoritest system,it's not even selling again.
Fresh_Coffee
QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 17 2005, 08:22 PM)
if i'm happy which is 99% of the time you won't hear that word,and i was mad at my mom and dad yesturday for smashing my favoritest system,it's not even selling again.
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Kihaku
On no, I'm sorry, I have checked this thread from time to time, but I never had anything interesting to say.. and with everyone gone.. sad.gif
But I'm kind of back...
I have been trying to watch Digimon Frontier.. but I haven't reached so far.. so OI have no idea what you were just talking about... wink.gif
As for songs... well I've listened to Japanese people sing in English.. and well.. I don't often recognise the words.. kind of like when I hear spoken English (or German)... It's hard... tongue.gif (but then again, I'd be awful with Japanese so...)
I liked Taichi's theme from Adventure Yuuki wo Tsubasa ni shite wink.gif. It's a beautiful song and I loved it as a background theme in that one ep biggrin.gif.
Heh, I remember "I wish". It was interesting to hear Mimi singing Japanese in the Finnish dub (they just hadn't bothered to dub it..) and Agumon and Gomamon too... wink.gif.
Fresh_Coffee
ohmy.gif Kihaku! You left us! sad.gif


Sometimes I don't recongize the english either. Like the Chobits theme song, I didn't realize until much later that she was singing, 'let me be with you.' blink.gif

XD They didn't even bother? Well.. at least you got to hear the japanese verison. I still like her english dubbed song. smile.gif
Kasumi
Kihaku! ohmy.gif Great to see you posting here again! biggrin.gif

"Yuuki wo Tsubasa ni shite" was okay. In fact, when image songs are used as BGM, they sound great. It gives the scene a different feel as compared to normal hopeful/battle music. Taichi's 02 image song doesn't sound all that great, in my opinion. "Atarashii Taiyou," while it doesn't sound bad, it's not something I'd have on repeat. happy.gif;;

@Coffee: Now, now, stop being dillusional. Yes, there was a dog in the picture, but that obviously was the scene where Havoc was holding Hayate and talking about "eating" him. The guy had a cigarette in his mouth. Fury doesn't smoke, last time I checked. tongue.gif

*takes out Fury pictures from pocket* Great, been needing these! *stuffs them in an photo album that's only 1/4 size of Havoc's album and 1/8 size of Roy and Riza's album* biggrin.gif

Weird, I always had the impression you lived in Scarborough. laugh.gif And went to a school under TDSB since your holidays and PA days seemed to be the same as mine. (at least, that's what I thought.) And thanks. I'm feeling a lot better today. smile.gif

And here's the lyrics to "Just Turn Around" the Teenage Wolves song in the dub.

You've got a boy
You've got a girl
Sitting underneath a tree
They sit there every day
And even though
You may think
This is the way things should be
It may not always be that way
You can't take nothing granted
You've got to live life today
I turn around, I can see what's behind me
I turn back around I can see what's ahead
And if you don't believe that I've been here all along
Just turn around
Just turn around...


Imagine the song is sung in Tai's POV. The boy is Tai, the girl is Sora. Being together underneath a tree is what they used to do. We think that's how it should be. However, it might not always be that way. Can't take nothing for granted. Tai turns around, and sees him and Sora together. He turns back around, and sees Matt and Sora. And if Sora doesn't believe Tai's been there all along, she just needs to turn around. smile.gif
The Man Who Laughed
Venommyotismon
Skulsatimon
Black Wargreymon
Tai
Kihaku
Coffee: No I didn't, I'm back wink.gif.

Yeah they just had the characters singing Japanese. wink.gif It was a little startling at first. I loved the fact that they kept the background musics though. But otherwise that dubbing company was just horrible. Seriously, I haven't heard as bad dub. Ever. It wasn't that they messed up things (once an eps started in Japanese and I was like "huh someone started their job a little late"), their acting was terrible. The voices were flat and emotionless. It turned people off Digimon, really. At least the next dubbing company was better... even though they couldn't make up their minds how to translate the crest names... they kept on getting worse. Sigh, anime is so unerrated in Finland. or well, at least it used to be.

Kasumi:
Oh yes! That scene was so very touching! I didn't know that it was Taichi's theme at first, until someone mentioned it. I just thought it was a sweet insert theme. heh, they should have had a Taichi&Yamato theme for that part wink.gif, but I liked that anyway.
I remember listening to Atarashii Taiyou ages ago. I don't quite remember it... It didn't apparently have much effect on me...tongue.gif
Fresh_Coffee
Kasumi:

I think you are being dillusional, kasumi. Last time I check it was Fury throwing a cigarette on the ground. smile.gif Holding Black Hayate because he is a good person. ( I don't know how excatly that works) biggrin.gif

XD *takes Havoc photo album and stuffs more fury pictures* biggrin.gif I did nothing. *steals Riza and Roy photo album*

Didn't I tell you I lived in Toronto? Well, I think this year March break was moved a week later for schools in TDSB. Something about an airport shutting down. o_0
^_____^ Yay, you are feeling better.

Awww, it really does reflect Taiora. I guess, Tai took Sora for granted. I recall in the second season, introduction TK said, 'Sora is still waiting for Tai's call.' Maybe Sora got tired of waiting. ;_; o_0 Did you understand me.. or am I far off? '_' That's a lot of turning around for Tai. So ahead he'll see, Matt and Sora and behind he'll see him and Sora. ;_;


Kihaku:

=3 Well.. welcome back. (= *glomp*

I thought english dubs were bad. =/ So, even when they were in danger it was totally monotone? That must have sucked.. =_= it's called Voice acting for a reason. Do you mean that they kept switching the names for crests or that they took a very long time to decide.. and they finally broadcasted eps. Would you like it to be underrated or overrated? unsure.gif
Kihaku
Oh, I liked the English dub.. what I heard of it at least wink.gif. I also liked the German and the Swedish ones.
And yes, the first Finnish dub.. the voices didn't change no matter what situation.
Very nice to hear "help" or "lets go, let's go to kill them" said in flat voices... (argh the memories)
And the crests... no the new company, (who knew how to voiceact though), kept on changing them during the eps. At first they seemd okay. The same as in the English dub.. but then.. *sighs* Only Taichi's and Takeru's crests remained the same. It was particularily annoying in the last eps (although Hikari's crest was also still the same, it just changed in the second season) against Apocalymon. I would have liked to hear the "proper" translations.. *sighs*
Kasumi
@Coffee: laugh.gif What would Fury be doing with a cigarette in the first place? And hey! Get back here with my Roy and Riza album! *chases after Coffee* XD

Sorry, a small misunderstanding there! For some strange reason, I forgot North York was not part of York Region. Actually, March Break was moved a week later so it can be combined with the easter holidays. They did it so it won't be March Break, go back to school for 3 days, then go for Easter holidays. This will be how it goes from now on.

"Still waiting for Tai's call?" Are you serious? How come I don't remember that? I remember reading something like that in fanfics, but I don't recall it being in 02...

@Kihaku: Taichi and Yamato theme? Um... They had that theme? Is that sung or just a BGM? Because I don't recall there being such a theme... happy.gif;; *scurries off to my Digimon folder to see if I have that theme*
Kihaku
"Waiting for Taichi's call" is in the film wink.gif. Um at the beginning of the third one, at least in the English dub wink.gif.
And yeah.. it does kind of make sense.. maybe she did get tired of waiting for him and moved on... *ponders*

Oh, I wish Taichi&Yamato had a theme song... *cries*. It would have been so great for that part.
I don't know of any either, I just wished that they had had one that would have gone so perfectly with that specific scene.
(but if you find a Taichi&Yamato theme, please inform me wink.gif )
Kasumi
No wonder, I never watched the third film dubbed. That's depressing. Sora was waiting for Tai and Tai was waiting for Sora. Neither got what they were both waiting for.
Well, if that were the case, then Sora getting tired of waiting and deciding to move on would be the only explanation why she fell for Yamato. sad.gif

I'm still trying to figure it out. They were really pushing taiora in Digimon Adventures (who can deny it after "Bokura no Wargame" and that e-mail? tongue.gif) and then there's the sudden Sorato. Did they switch scriptwriters halfway? *sighs*

I checked, there's no Taichi & Yamato theme... sad.gif
Fresh_Coffee
Kasumi/Kihaku-ishy:

*shifty eyes* Well, why don't you ask Fury? XD I'm not giving it back! It's either I have it or I burn it. *takes match out*

0.o I still want to know which Airport it was that got shut down. Well.. that makes sense.. now all that we need is an extension on March break. biggrin.gif

Well.. actually I was referring to the beginning of 02 where, TK does the introduction in the dub. Where he talks about everybody and he comes to sora and talks about everything going on with her and says, ' She's still waiting for Tai's call.' What happens in the third movie? Wasn't the Third movie where TK and Hikari go to new york?

I know! I would support Sorato if they placed some hints, I mean .. Taiora was pratically cannon. Who can forget the moment, Tai cried for her? ph34r.gif o_0 Taiora/Takari/Koumi were the three main couplings in japan, no?

I haven't seen the Japanese verison except for the 4th and 5th movie. I forget which movie it is.. Sora is in the middle between Yamato and Taichi and she holds onto him instead of Yamato. This is after Yamato and Sora are going out too.
Kasumi
*dives at the album* You are not going to burn it! Well, then again, I have 2 more albums of Roy and Riza... XDDD

That's what I don't recall hearing. If he did say that, I'm pretty sure I'd be jumping up and down at that "hint" back then. (or at least, I'd remember it. *sniffs* I remember "A Very Digi-Christmas" all too well...)

Main couples... I'm assuming you mean the most popular couples there. Taiora, taito, takari, and koumi were the most popular. Though there were a decent amount of Jyoumi fans around too.

That'd be the 4th movie. You've watched it??? So was it true that Yamato and Sora got into a fight? And was Sora holding onto Taichi during the battle? And more importantly, was it done subconciously or to make Yamato jealous?

EDIT: I'm too lazy to go through episode guides, so one more question. Whatever happened with Sora's parents. I can't remember much. Her dad worked in Kyoto right? It's been so long, but I'm reminded of this through the drama CD, so I'm curious.
DameGreyWulf
I used to watch Digimon, before I was into anime
But now I see dubs for what they really are: frauds, and moronic
I know consider myself only to have seen the first four episodes of Digimon Adventure (first season) because I refuse to acknowledge most dubs (especially those done by 4KIDs)
I downloaded fansubs because I refuse to give 4KIDs money
Kasumi
Valid reasons, even though Digimon's dub was considered decent compared to most. Except I hope you realize 4kids! had absolutely nothing to do with Digimon.
DameGreyWulf
They do to, I saw them in the credits
But, anway back on topic
Yamato is my fav character, Renamon is my fav digimon
Kasumi
huh.gif Pokémon was done by 4kids!, Digimon was done by Saban Entertainment. Thus, 4kids! couldn't have had anything to do with the Digimon dub.

(I'd hate to imagine what'd happen if the series was licensed by 4kids! happy.gif;; )
DameGreyWulf
Well, whatever it doesn't matter now because it sucks either way
Kihaku
Gosh.. I don't remember that beginning of 02.. it was there too? That would explain a lot.
And yes... actually the time when I started liking Taiora was around the "Pyramid eps" (the latter one is my fav). It could have been seen as Taichi crying for Sora... but also that he was depressed about not having enugh courage to save her.. he was very disappointed with himself.
Anyways, while she was trapped Sora was relying on Taichi to save her wink.gif. Anyhow he was the first person who came into her mind when Datamon mentioned that the kids had managed to find their way into the pyramid.
And after Taichi disappeared along with MetalGreymon she said his name wih a kin of forlorn expression(I suppose...).

Hah! Sorato wasn't one of of the most popular couples wink.gif Wheras Taito was..
How could they not take the fandoms into consideration? *cries buckets*.
Kasumi
And don't forget Sora was the first one to leave to look for Taichi when he disappeared! biggrin.gif Also, in the original version of the pyramid episode, Taichi actually admitted that "Beyond this wall, there's something very important to me." *melts* Taichi is too sweet...

I just made an interesting realization. (call me slow, whatever. tongue.gif) Both Taiora and Takari (yes, the 2 most popular couples that never became canon for some odd reason) were canon in a sense that it was one-sided canon.

No doubt Taichi had feelings for Sora that went beyond friendship after what happened in "A Very Digi-Christmas." As for Takeru, "Focus" Takeru's 02 image song, couldn't have made it anymore obvious that he, indeed, had feelings for Hikari but just couldn't muster up the courage to ask how she feels about him.

And Kihaku, do you know what was actually said the in original version during that scene in "A Very Digi-Christmas?" I've practically memorized the scene in the dub (unwillingly, mind you, I just couldn't believe what I was hearing and ran the scene over and over again...) happy.gif;;
Fresh_Coffee
Kasumi: I can always grab those too. tongue.gif

That's a rumor. Actually Sora went to visit some relatives and she came back to help fight during the battle she met Yamato and Taichi. They weren't strong enough or something, around that and a gust of wind blew (something along those lines) and she was in between Yamato and Taichi and she chose to hang onto him instead of Yamato.


How come nobody remembers it except me? huh.gif I remember it so clearly too.

The evidence of Taiora keeps piling up and they didn't even at least hook up for a little bit. sad.gif Can't forget the moment Tai promised to protect her.

I actually have the tape verison of a very digi christmas. o_0 I have no idea what I was thinking.
Kihaku
QUOTE(Kasumi @ Aug 3 2005, 08:48 AM)
And don't forget Sora was the first one to leave to look for Taichi when he disappeared! biggrin.gif Also, in the original version of the pyramid episode, Taichi actually admitted that "Beyond this wall, there's something very important to me." *melts* Taichi is too sweet...

Oh yes. I definitely remember those parts! As you know.. I really love that dialogue! Although he wasn't thinking of Sora then, but when Agumon asked him about that, he did admit that Sora was important to him (as a friend.. or?)

QUOTE
I just made an interesting realization. (call me slow, whatever. tongue.gif) Both Taiora and Takari (yes, the 2 most popular couples that never became canon for some odd reason) were canon in a sense that it was one-sided canon.

Now.. I must be even slower... but um one-sided from what side?
I mean.. I'm sure that actually both sides had feeling for each other... (Taiora suddenly turns kind of one-sided in 02, but we can still wonder if Sora had feelings for Taichi, but chose Yamato for certain reasons..

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And Kihaku, do you know what was actually said the in original version during that scene in "A Very Digi-Christmas?" I've practically memorized the scene in the dub (unwillingly, mind you, I just couldn't believe what I was hearing and ran the scene over and over again...) happy.gif;;
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And me.. I must have blocked it out of my mind.... *hits head*
I actually don't even want to remember it. tongue.gif

Uh.... that part from the film.. I don't remember it ... Avtually I don't remember the 5th film well at all. I've only seen it once (what an excuse tongue.gif).
But that's interesting... very interesting...
Kasumi
@Coffee: Ah, thanks! Somehow, I'm actually glad that it was a rumour. tongue.gif And no, you can't grab the other albums because you don't know where I've put them! Muahaha~ *cough* Ahem...yes...

That probably has something to do with the fact that I don't remember much of 02 except random scenes. (particularly when Yamato punched Taichi and the whole scene of "A Very Digi-Christmas") tongue.gif

Yes, Tai's "Don't worry Sora. I won't let anything happen to you." *sighs*

Having any episode of Digimon on tape is good. I wouldn't mind having "A Very Digi-Christmas" on tape, no matter how painful it was. (because Joshua Seth did a real good job with Tai in that scene. That hesitation that turned into slight mumbling, that bit of bitterness in his voice when Sora told him about Matt, and then that soft but encouraging tone when he pushed Sora to Matt... Gah! The memory is killing me!)

@Kihaku: I know Taichi wasn't referring to Sora then, but I'd like to think of it as he was referring to both. tongue.gif

Well, in the sense of canon, it was just one-sided. Sure Taiora and Takari fans will say the feeling was mutual because of all the "hints." But really, "hints" are fan speculations. Those hints could be easily shot down by non-Taiora or non-takari fans. (let's put it this way, how many hints from Sora and Hikari couldn't be put to "they're forgiving and they're just caring for their best friend?") However, Taichi's feeling was made canon. So has Takeru's. There's no way around it, how they feel was openly told to the fans. Taichi was obviously asking Sora on a date, Takeru was obviously singing about how he's feeling about Hikari.

Uh, Kihaku, I think you mean the 4th film there. happy.gif The 5th film was a Tamers movie. wink.gif Hm... I wonder if I'll ever watch the 4th movie...?

EDIT: Almost forgot the mention. I've found the "official couples" picture again! As well as that Taito pic. If you guys are still looking for them, I can post it here. smile.gif
Kihaku
There are actually quite a few scenes that I DO remember from 02.. but recalling certain parts is sometimes hard wink.gif ( I remember the whole Taichi Yamato thing and Daisuke feeling jealous wink.gif.. I loved the"friendship" ep. It's one of my faves from 02)

Well... Taichi was referring to both.. basically... since he admitted it. I mean.. there are probably many things and people that are important to him and even if he just wasn't thinking of Sora at that particular moment(which is odd, since he was going to rescue her) it was obvious that there was a strong feeling. Of course since he'd just a kid, it's not maybe something that he has first in his mind. more something that is self evident and doesn't need to be explained.
Gah, I'm awful at making sense.. tongue.gif

Ah, okay wink.gif I didn't find Takeru's feeling to be actually canon (unless you count the song, of which I haven't actually checked the lyrics..), but I suppose Taichi's was... Then again what Taichi felt for Sora in Adventure could also be seen as just friendship.. Actually I see it mostly that way wink.gif(even if it was quite clear in 02..)


Gah, I'm awul at math. yes.. the 4th film.. *hits head*

Oh, I've sooo wanted to see that pic again! (if it's the one you mean). Even though I was a little..depressed by it at first since I hadn't even seen 02 yet...
Please post it... *puppy dog eyes*
And the taito pic too! I'd love that! Please...
Kasumi
Hm... My favourite episode from 02 would probably be... the first ep? Ok, truth be told, if that didn't happen, "A Very Digi-Christmas" would be my favourite. But because that did happen, well, it's very unfortunate. (...Tai! *starts weeping*)

Yeah... See? I keep forgetting Taichi and the others were 11 back then! (and don't worry. I understood what you said perfectly. wink.gif tongue.gif)

I do count the song. The song is the biggest piece of evidence for Takari. Even without the song, there's ep. 13 of 02, "His Master's Voice," Takeru ran away because he let slip of his feelings towards her. If the "confession" was merely friendship, Takeru wouldn't have anything to fear, wouldn't be embarassed.

Taichi's feeling towards Sora could be seen as friendship in 01. (I choose to believe otherwise. tongue.gif) Afterall, Sora was Taichi's best friend, it's logical to assume he was more comfortable and worried about her compared to the others whom he only met during summer camp. (Aside from Koushiro, it seems that Taichi knew Koushiro beforehand as well.)

Yes, the picture hurts me as well, but I can't ignore the art. *__*
Official Couples Pic (Is there another name for this pic? It hurts me to continuously refer to it as that... For obvious reasons. dry.gif)
And of course, the Taito pic. smile.gif I found this one really cute.
Taito
Kihaku
Heh.. I love the first ep too. Since Taichi is in a big part wink.gif. And the in-depth eps with BlackWargreymon (and Agumon and co). They showed that even digimon are capable of in-depth thinking- Hmm... and the first fusion (for obvious reasons. smile.gif.

Oh thanks! wink.gif It's so hard putting complicated thoughts into words wink.gif. And yeah.. for many reasons it's hard to believe that the kids are young. At certain times we're reminded that they're just kids.. but still they're too mature for their own good.

Again.. ep 13.. part. Something I don't remember...
I did see Taichi's feelings in DA as friendships.. since (again) for an 11 year old it seems more likely, but I was a taiora fan after all wink.gif and hopeful wink.gif.
Ah.. this is something what I've been wondering... I thought that the kids did know eahc other from before, because they were hanging out together and Taichi introduced them to the digimon.. although. they could have just got to know each other at camp. Also... I've read that Yamato was Taichi's best friend.. but also remember reading that it was Sora.. judging from what I've seen it seemed to be Yamato.. which might make Taichi and Sora something else.. *scratches head* And yeah, he did seem quite close to Koushirou too. *scratches head even more*

Ah, that pic again! wink.gif It's been ages since I saw it. I loved how Agumon was so much in the lime light and well.. Taichi, Daisuke and Ken(mostly Taichi though) At that time I didn't know who Ken was (I knew a little of the others..), and I assumed that he was girl... AND that there might have been something between him(in my mind "her") and Daisuke(or Taichi) laugh.gif Didn't notice Miyako hanging on him though.. (just now when I looked closer).

Ah.. that's such a taito pic..Where is it from?????
Kasumi
How could I have forgotten about the arc with Blackwargreymon? *hits head* Yes, I especially liked the episode where Wargreymon and Blackwargreymon fought. And of course, Agumon's words of wisdom. Hehe. happy.gif

No, Taichi didn't know Yamato before summer camp. That much I'm sure. I vaguely remember Taichi going "A friend at summer camp taught me how" when Hikari asked him where he learned how to cook. (Have to check that episode to make sure though.) Also, Taichi didn't seem to know Yamato all that well in the beginning of the series. (For one, he didn't know the situation between Yamato and Takeru.)

Taichi and Sora, however, has been in the same class even before they moved to Odaiba. (After witnessing the battle between Greymon and Parrotmon.) So there's no doubt that Taichi and Sora met when they were little kids.

Koushiro and Taichi...Well, they're definitely not in the same class because Taichi is a year older than Koushiro, but the fact that Koushiro's mother seem to know Taichi (and Taichi's mother seems to know Koushiro) it gives out the fact that they know eachother before summer camp. wink.gif

laugh.gif I don't blame you for mistaking Ken as a girl... If I saw that pic before I saw 02, I'd think he was a girl too.

That taito pic came from a magazine... I think it was in celebration of Valentine's Day or White Day... *coughrealsuggestivecough*
Kihaku
Yup! I had spoiled myself and was waiting for the WarGreymon vs BlackWarGreymon fight since 02 begun...
And Agumon.... who would have thought that he'd be so philosophical (it's "in the genes" tongue.gif although techinically BlackWarGreymon isn't a digimon...)

"the heart is what makes a human human and a digimon a digimon"
how sweet... wink.gif

Yeah.. I remember that the other children were wondering about the relationship between Yamato and Takeru.
But I sort of believed that Yamato and Taichi did become very close (and best friends). That when Yamato returns to Taichi's side while he was getting beaten up by Piamon and using his crest of friendship to "revive" Taichi and WarGreymon proved it... (gosh.. that's one of my favourite moments)

Yeah... I vaguely recall that.... I also thought also that Taichi and Sora were in the same football(or soccer) club?

Hmm... didn't all of the kids come from Odaiba???? Maybe Taichi and Koushirou lived close by.. In the film it didn't seem like it took a very long time from Koushiro's house to Taichi's.. And it seemed pretty self evident that they were hanging around together...

Yeah.. Ken is kind of girly wink.gif but it's funny that I would pair him up too without knowing (when I found out... well that changed the pairing.. funny that I like it NOW though)

Yeah.. I mean really... Valentine's Day or White Day? Gosh.. must have been for the Taito fans... It can't get very much more suggestive (have to show that to certain people..) wink.gif
Kasumi
laugh.gif Yes, Agumon was so sweet and cute. I also remember what was said in the dub. "When all life gives you is lemon. Then make lemon pie! Hey! I'm hungry!" He was too cute.

Yamato and Taichi became best friends AFTER their adventure in the Digital World. I was referring to the time before summer camp. wink.gif The Crest of friendship reviving Taichi and Agumon was my favourite moment too. And don't forget how Taichi believed in Yamato! tongue.gif

That was actually the Odaiba school football (soccer) team. But they all went to the same school (except Takeru) anyway.

No, the kids were originally living in Hikarioaka (sp?) where they witnessed the battle. They were coincidentally living in the same apartment as well. tongue.gif But after the battle (which the world labelled as the "Tokyo Terrorist Bombing"), their parents thought it was unsafe to stay at where they lived, so they all (again coincidentally) moved to Odaiba. (Except Takeru)

I was quite surprised when I first saw that Taito pic as well... And is it just me or does Taichi look uke-ish in that pic? *cough* And yes, it can't get much more suggestive. laugh.gif There's actually no doubt in my mind that it was for Taito fans. happy.gif
Fresh_Coffee
QUOTE(Kasumi @ Aug 5 2005, 09:46 AM)
@Coffee: Ah, thanks! Somehow, I'm actually glad that it was a rumour. tongue.gif And no, you can't grab the other albums because you don't know where I've put them! Muahaha~ *cough* Ahem...yes...


I didn't even hear that rumor. =0 I will grab them! I know where you hid them. *cough*

QUOTE(Kasumi)
That probably has something to do with the fact that I don't remember much of 02 except random scenes. (particularly when Yamato punched Taichi and the whole scene of "A Very Digi-Christmas") tongue.gif


Actually, now that I think of it was in the movie. *her head hurts*

QUOTE(Kasumi)
Yes, Tai's "Don't worry Sora. I won't let anything happen to you." *sighs*


;_; That's a beautiful moment.

QUOTE(Kasumi)
Having any episode of Digimon on tape is good. I wouldn't mind having "A Very Digi-Christmas" on tape, no matter how painful it was. (because Joshua Seth did a real good job with Tai in that scene. That hesitation that turned into slight mumbling, that bit of bitterness in his voice when Sora told him about Matt, and then that soft but encouraging tone when he pushed Sora to Matt... Gah! The memory is killing me!)


;_; Don't remind me! Why must end that way, I still wonder why the creators suddenly changed their mind and switched to Sorato.



QUOTE(Kasumi @ Aug 8 2005, 03:51 PM)
Yes, the picture hurts me as well, but I can't ignore the art. *__*
Official Couples Pic (Is there another name for this pic? It hurts me to continuously refer to it as that... For obvious reasons. dry.gif)
And of course, the Taito pic. smile.gif I found this one really cute.
Taito
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*cries* I hate that picture. XD There was another picture I think we talked about it earlier of a magazine with Matt's arm around Sora's shoulder.

*_* I left this thread, I'm sorry.
Kihaku
Oh Agumon said that in the dub? wink.gif Oh that was cute too. It sounds like Agumon (I wonder why they changed the original one though..)

Ah, and now I feel enlightened wink.gif. I also love the fact how their experiences manged to change them.. and bring them close like that despite their differences (and brawls). And it was great for Yamato, since I didn't think he had that many friends before.. or?
Heh.. I remember that scenes playing over in my mind. I watched the English dub before and was desperately wating for the Finnish one to air (also the English wasn't actually on a channel that we had..). I remember wondering which version I liked more. tongue.gif I don't know.. Maybe the Finnish one *scratches head*

Yeah.. I meant the school club.. but I wasn't sure if it was the same team. I would have thought that boys and girls had separate teams (although I do remember reading something like that...)

Yeah, I knew that they moved from Hikarigaoka, but I was reffering to the "now" (or something). The time after they moved.

Hmm.... *looks at pic again* I didn't think about that at all. But yeah.. Yamato is the one carrying Taichi... who is holding the flowers...

Coffee:
Yeah.. I also felt at first that I didn't like the "couples" pic... But it was so good and I really liked Agumon and Taichi in the pic. Also.. now I don't feel so bad about it...
(but still certain things DID not happen in 02)
Kasumi
Yes, Agumon's entire speech was very touching. After the pie comment, he goes on about how he fights, but he fights for what he believes in. Every life has meaning, he (Blackwargreymon) just needs to search for it. (Can't remember the exact words at the moment...)
And I can't forget this quote: "Where would Tai be without me?" laugh.gif

Yamato struck me as a loner in the beginning, so I don't think he had many friends before the experiences in the Digital World. Rivals tend to end up to be really good friends. I think it has something to do with the fact that people understand their rivals better than anyone else because you're always competing with them. It's the way it is with rivalry. Whether it is done conciously or not, one tends to pay more attention to their rivals.

The football team was probably co-ed. Although I've never heard of a co-ed soccer team, but who knows?

*laughs nervously* The thought of Taichi being uke-ish is disturbing... Then again, there are Yamachi fans... happy.gif;;

Did anyone else realize Taichi is the only one not smiling in that pic? (is referring to "couples" pic.) Ok, Yamato isn't really smiling either, but at least he looks comfortable. Taichi, however, looks like he doesn't know where to stand and...His expression just shows his awkwardness... (I am not speaking in the Taiora view... It's the truth.)

@Coffee: For a while there, I thought you really left this thread! Glad to see you pop up in this thread again. wink.gif
On a taiora site, I read it was from "Digimon: The Movie" as opposed to the beginning of 02. But it doesn't matter... It was a dub addition anyway. (Even though Digimon is one series where I respect the dub.) wink.gif


Ok, I'm feeling nostalgic... I want to hear Joshua Seth as Tai again!!! And Michael Reisz as Matt... (If you guys can't tell by now, I loved Tai's voice... I nearly jumped when I heard Joshua Seth's voice and ran to the TV, thinking it was Digimon or something... Only to find it was Duel Masters. That was the last time I heard his voice... ;_; I've heard Seth as 3 different roles, Tai was definitely the best.)
Fresh_Coffee
Kihaku:

I actually like the picture besides the couple. The group thing with Tai, Ken and Davis looks sweet. smile.gif

You might be happy to know I'm trying a manga that has shonen-ai in it? Are you suprised? biggrin.gif I don't know what my reaction will be, since I'm trying this for a friend.

Kasumi:

I will never leave this thread again! ;_; Ah. I think it's the movie, I must be getting old. *brings out cane* Which Taiora site did you to? I still remember some Taiora sites, though most have closed. =(

Oh ya, Kasumi-sama are you going to go to the animecon?


They should replay digimon again for fun. =P I also recognized Joshua seth's voice on duel masters, which I only watched once because he sounded like tai. Ah, it brings back old memories.
Kasumi
@Coffee: Wow, if you're getting old and need a cane, what about me? XD

Yeah, it's depressing to know most of the Taiora sites have closed down. But there are still a few up, and the one I went to was Love Bugs. (I'll dig up the link, if you want me to. I don't have it at the moment because... Well, I only bookmarked their gallery, which is off-site. happy.gif;;) Speaking of which, that gallery has quite a few long lost taiora fanarts.

*shakes head sadly* No, I won't be going to Anime Con. (Never been to one, and I'm starting to wonder if I'll ever go to one?) I assume you'd be going?

If they re-ran Digimon Season 1 or 2, I'd tape every episode without a second thought. That time when I heard Seth's voice on Duel Masters, it was only for 5 minutes. ;_; (Um, no, I've never watched Duel Masters before, nor do I know what it's about aside from it being a card game.) I've considered watching it just so I could hear Seth's voice, but I forgot the time it was on. happy.gif;; Not that it matters too much because as "Tai" as the voice sounded, it wasn't Tai. ;_;
Fresh_Coffee
@Kasumi:

xD You must be in a wheelchair. I'm still standing, har, har, har!

ohmy.gif You know Lovebugs as well? I think that has to be the best Taiora site I ever visited. I think they were also named the top Taiora site, if I remember correctly. Then again I'm getting old! They do have a wonderful gallery. Most of the links to other sites are down. )'=

This is the first one I'll be going to, I hope I'll be going to anyway. rolleyes.gif You should really come =0 It's better to come for the whole three days, so you won't waste your money.

Aww~ I have a suprise for you though. smile.gif Well, Ninja actually found this.

Suprise!

smile.gif Direct downloading. First and Second season are complete =0. They also have some of the movies subbed. It brings back good old memories doesn't it?
Kasumi
@Coffee: Ooh, wheelchair. At least I can move faster than you can! XD

Yup, lovebugs definitely was one of the best Taiora sites around. (As well as one of the very few that are around. I believe it is only 1 of 3 english taiora sites that are still up.)

The chances of me being able to go is...well... 0% *sighs* My friends aren't willing to go (their reason: too expensive) and I certainly am not going alone.

*__* COFFEE, I LOVE YOU! Of course, I love ninja for finding it as well. wink.gif In the process of downloading the Datamon ep, it's a bit slow, but I'm not complaining too much. smile.gif *suddenly realizes something* Is this the dub or RAW?
Fresh_Coffee
@Kasumi: Not if I tip over your wheelchair. biggrin.gif

Aww, there is only 3 up , eh? That's so sad, I think I saw a couple of sorato sites *Was trying to see what evidence they had* Evidently the whole Friendship and love thing is one of their biggest reasons.

Aww~ Well, I wouldn't go alone either, I'm going with my obessed friend. *__* You should just try to sneak in. laugh.gif It is expensive..especially if you want to buy something as well.

XD *blush* Ninja told me about it yesterday. She should come and join our gang after this. This is the dub (=
Kasumi
Then I swipe your cane. There, now we'll both crawl. Fair? XDDD

Yes, 3 up... sad.gif None of them are being updated anymore though.
Hm... I've never checked out any of the Sorato sites before. Friendship and love thing was their biggest reason? It takes courage to love though! (If I were a Sorato fan, I would use "Yamato saved Sora from the darkness" as the biggest piece of evidence. But of course, Joe was there too. What does this prove? There was no hint of sorato whatsoever in season 1.)

See? You have to pay to get in and pay while you're in there. tongue.gif Actually, I wouldn't mind too much, because you can't get most of the anime merchandise anywhere else. ;_;

The dub? Great! =D For a minute there, I was afraid it was the RAW. wink.gif
Fresh_Coffee
XD I can magically walk though. *laughs and kasumi on the ground*

*sees Ninja*

Yes, they also said he saved her from the dark but she was worried about TAI and some other people. I should probably go check a Sorato site again and post some evidence they have. There is also a bit of evidence I'm thinking of but I can't remember what happened excatly.


wow.. they are in love in these pictures =_=

I know =0 It's so hard to find manga/anime stuff in canada. >_> My friend told me about this creepy manga store in downtown toronto.

Yes, It's the dub. happy.gif I have to download it myself soon.
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