really I am? I might be... oh well, I need to get some more "voodoo dolls" though! I have some people on my list...

Sounds like fun, tourchering others while you play with dolls, my kind of violence.

oh it is... but I leave my loved ones and family away... only the ones that get on my blacklist hehe... *goes to find more dolls*

"Watch out!, He has a voodoo doll, and he isn't affraid to use it!"
I can see it know, you run through the streets, stabing and people all around just start falling on the ground, that would make a good picture or movie.

lol that would! maybe we should do that... *goes and puts on tinfoil thinking cap*

0_0 this is topic is getting way off topic. ^^; Digimon, DIGIMON!

What about a cartoon?
It could be like Digimon, and your dolls could talk, and they could change into cooler dolls, and more affective!
That would be cool, they wouldn't be able to feal pain unless you want your pets to be in pain? but mine wouldn't.

Wow, and I thought we were already really off-topic.


No, what I meant was that DBZ received the same complaint and was sued for racial discrimination.
Their reason was what Jynx and Mr. Popo portrays. Seriously, how many kids would actually notice/know about it? (I didn't notice until they made such a big deal about it that it went on the news.)
Going back to Digimon, dialogue edits are inevitable, as for scenes, well, can't expect much for english dubs. But truthfully, Digimon is among one of the best dubs I've ever seen. They might not have kept to the actual dialogue (like throwing in random jokes. ), but their meaning was kept nonetheless. I was rewatching the first 3 Adventures episodes, and comparing it to what I remember of the dub, some parts actually made more sense in the dub than in the original. Yeah, weird...

We are back on Topic thanks goodness ^^;

Wow it made more sense in the dub that original Digimon is one sepcial anime. Though I've only seen a couple of the original eps of Digimon and that was the fourth season.

I actually remember reading that part about Popo.... So it was the same thing with Jynx thne.

About Digimon... Well, it's just that I like to stick with the original one. I don't know how close to the original the Finnish dub was, but I know that they didn't change names or edit scenes. I watched a few eps from the English dub and was surprised how different the dialogue was. There were WAY too many jokes. But they were funny. It's just that it makes it seems more hilarious than a serious show. The main themes were there, so I guess that's not that bad. I'd have liked them to keep the opening theme and insert songs though. Not that it really concerns me, but if I was American that's what I'd prefered.
About the dub making more sense.. I wonder... I haven't seen enough to know, but I don't think it really matters. I like Digimon as it's original little complex format.. If that's how it is. I like it that it makes me think a bit too.

Yup, same thing Jynx.

Most people would rather stick to the original, but back then, I had no access to the japanese version, so the dub was the only thing I could get. Of course, I jumped at the chance at downloading whatever I could of the original.
Hm... The only anime I recall having opening, insert, and ending songs kept were Gundam Wing, Gundam SEED, Inuyasha, and Witch Hunter Robin. All of these shows occupied the 10pm-11pm timeslot. (There may have been more dubs with japanese opening or ending, but I live in Canada, so I only know the anime that aired here.) American dubbing companies seems to have problems with letting children being exposed to japanese. (Unfortunately, I'm not being sarcastic. )

Notice "some" was in italics in my previous post? ^^;; Yeah, I didn't mean all of the dub made more sense than the original, just some parts. (I don't think it's possible to have a dub making more sense than the original ^^;; )

Hmm... don't know what my big deal with "as close to the original as possible" is. .
About them being Japanese.. I mean they could be translated not replaced with something so... different. The German and the Finnish version did that anyway (although I guess the Finns just didn't bother on translating everything). yeah.. I remmeber actually being surprised when I heard the original songs of GW.

Yes, yes. I believe that it is fairly possible that some parts would be modified to make them more understandable... I don't know why I like sometimes not understanding. Possibly becuase I like to make my own (right) assumptions.

I'm sure we all wish dubs could be as close as the original. But so far, only GW has been able to do that. (90% of the lines are DIRECT translations.) One of the reasons why GW is one of the best anime of all times.

I'd like to believe that assumptions had to be made for Digimon Adventures and 02. There are just too many unanswered questions in the series.

Kasumi: New avatar, it's very nice ^^;

GW is close to the original *gasp* I've heard that Cowboy bebop is one of the best dubs ever.

Thanks! Hehe, actually, this is my old one... Thought I'd switch back and forth once in a while. ^^

Don't know about Cowboy Bebop (never watched it), but GW is the best dub in my opinion. (Near direct translations and nothing was edited. What more can you ask for from a dub?)

I really don't know any of the names for Digimon because I watched them in Korea when I was 7-9. The only seasons where I watched them fully was season 1 and 4. Season two, missed it. Season three, it was REALLY confusing because with all the cards and weird red stuff around...
Many people say Pok'emon and Digimon are big rivals. Until they fought to gain popularity, pok'emon won with like a thousands of episodes.

Kasumi: Oh I see, well nice change then.

I don't know what the best dubbed show would be to me but I can tell you one of the worst. Shaman King they just hurt the show *sigh*

I think that Digimon was popular more for an awhile.

Hey, Kasumi, you're back to your old avatar.
Hmm.. on dubs.. I heard that One Piece was pretty cut and edited (I'd like to see it for fun.. really)... but that's 4kids.. and I saw what they did to Yu-gi-oh!

Hmm.. actually I think that Digimon (all seasons.. well I've seen just two) is pretty confusing for a kids' show.
Hmm.. I tought that around "here" Pokémon was more popular.. but in Japan it was Digimon... But I don't know... I was surprised to find out that Pokémon is still really popular .

Yup, back to good ol' chibi!Ed. *gets attacked by Ed*

I'd say Yu-Gi-Oh! is the worst dub ever. The first episode wasn't even the first episode. -___-

I managed to catch a bit of the Shaman King dub last week... I wish I didn't turn on my TV... Is this the same 4Kids! that dubbed Pokemon and Sonic X? It sure doesn't feel like it.

Pokemon has always been more popular than Digimon, especially in Japan. Even after the Pokemon seizure incident, it still remained extremely popular. (Which is really amazing. I'd expect everyone to have been afraid of Pokemon after that.)
But Pokemon has achieved a different kind of popularity now. It's sort of the "mascot" popularity instead of anime/manga/video game popularity it used to be. Pikachu is equivalent to Hello Kitty to many people now. (I just noticed the irony. Pikachu is a mouse, while Hello Kitty is a cat. )

The irony sure runs. Shaman King is just bad I mean Ren= Lenny??????? *scream*

Plus to note, some of the Digimon Seiyuu were on FMA. Only six I can identified at this time...

Gabumon, Li Jenrya[Henry Wong]: Mayumi Yamaguchi(Envy)

Bakemon: Keiichi Sonobe (Clause's father)

Elecmon: Yasuhiro Takato (Gluttony, also Artemis from SM anime.)

Etemon, Mercurymon: Yasunori Matsumoto (Jean Havok, also voiced Herc in KH.)

Ken Ichijouji: Romi Pak(Edward Elric; also voiced SK's Len Tao.)

RhodoKnightmon[Crusadermon]: Ryôtarô Okiayu (Scar)
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Interesting list, Guest. Other than Paku Romi, I didn't know about the others, although, now that I think about it, Elecmon and Havoc's voice did sound quite similar at times.

Katsumi: I think you mixed it up.

Elecmon & Gluttony were voiced by the same guy.

The man who voiced Havoc not only voiced Hercrules, Etemon, & Mercurymon, but Megazarak{Scorponok} of TF: SuperLink{TF-Energon} as well.

I meant to type Etemon. No, really, I did.

But truthfully, I did find Elecmon's voice similar to Havoc's. (Although, whether it's Adventure!Elecmon, Frontier!Elecmon, or dubbed!Elecmon, I can't quite remember) ^^;;

Ah, Pokémon is even the most popular in Japan. darn. I'm not saying it's a bad show or anything.. but it's just that Digimon is sooo much better (as I've been stating for a loong time ). yeah.. the mascot thing.. but even Agumon is a cute charcater. *waves Agumon flag*

Hmm... I also just knew Paku Romi from the list .

Actually, the Johto season of Pokemon was bad. Really bad. So I'm glad the producers noticed there mistake and decided to start fresh.

Yup, Agumon was the cutest out of all the Digimon. *waves Agumon flag with Kihaku* (Gabumon is in close second though) Also, Agumon has the best mega form, Wargreymon.

(Something is wrong with my english today. Bleh.)

The Johto season is season was the bad one? Wow.
No wonder. I liked the first season... after that (why is this always done in Finland?) the next to be seen were Johto and Master Quest (or something like that) anyway... I totally started to lose interest after the first season... one reason why I have a negative attitude towards Pokémon.

Yay for you! I've felt that Agumon hasn't established quite the status as Pikachu has, because he wasn't/isn't as lovable and cute. (I think he is cuter, but well) also.. he's isn't such the main character as Pikachu... I kind of liked the way how in Adventure the characters were almost equally important and maybe if Agumon stood out a little, it wasn't soo much and it wasn't like he was the only Digimon to be able to evolve to his mega form.. there was Gabumon too, so basically two very strong characters, instead of one.
In my opinion WarGreymon owns MetalGarurumon, but I guess the creators meant them to be almost equal.
Oh, I love WarGreymon.. He's just.. cool.

Even I skipped half of Johto and Master Quest (which is still part of the Johto season)... But sometimes I wish I hadn't done that. There were a few episodes in Master Quest which I wanted to see badly. (All involving Gary) There was an episode where Ash had a flashback that explains the start of the rivalry between him and Gary.

Yeah, Agumon never achieved the same popularity as Pikachu, but I think Guilmon almost did. (Although, Adventures still did seem more popular than Tamers...)
Yup, there are no other words to describe Wargreymon. He was downright cool.

Johto I have to say was around the area I just stopped watching. I'm a Gatomon fan XD but Augmon is up there still though I think Patmon would have been a better mascot.

The truth is, Johto killed Pokemon. (Erk, it hurts to say that. XP) Even the superb ending couldn't compensate.

For an overall Digimon mascot, I'd say Guilmon would be the best... Or maybe Terriermon. They're both one of the cutest Digimon I've ever seen.
But going season by season, here's who I would've want as the mascot:

Adventures: Agumon (or Gabumon)... But does anybody else feel like Taichi was the mascot instead? XD Seriously, you see Taichi on nearly every Adventures merchandise! (Not that I'm complaining. Who'd complain about Taichi?)
Adventures 02: V-mon
Tamers: Guilmon
Frontier: Err... Takuya.

Frontier is Takuya since their is no Digimon 0_o or bokumon. No complains about Taichi for mascot XD Adventures 02 I would say Patamon but V-mon is really good.

Wish they hurry up and end Pok'emon in U.S. already...
I heard Pok'emon ended 4 years ago in Japan.

The third season of Digimon was a very confusing season. (more like weird)
I STILL don't get it...

I love digimon but I'm not like some kinda of digimon crack head yea I've seen all the episodes of each season and I wish they continued it but I dont own any of their stuff partly because I <3 my money a bit more lolz but still my fav season was definitely season 1 the original and the second half of season 2 made up for the first half ya kno...season 3 was better than 4 and 2 though 1 pwns them all god I'm rambling again

Actually... Pokemon is still running in Japan. In fact, it's still quite popular there. (I've got to say, Pocket Monsters AG is pretty amazing... ...Though I may be biased. )

I've got to agree with you, Full Metal Engineer. The first half of 02 just didn't live up to the standards.

heh, I watched a bit of Johto.. and yay, got to see the end. I actually started thinking that I might start to like it again.. there was the bit with Ash vs Gary that I liked and an ep in which Team Rocket didn't blast off.
because of the time that AG airs.. I'm just forgetting to watch it..
I'd like to get into it again.

Overall Digimon mascot? It's kind of hard I guess since there are all those seasons, but I'd still say Taichi . Even though he wasn't as much of a main character as main character usually is, but he was after all the leader (chosen by the others) of the first chosen ones and the founder of "the goggles". Every main character has had something resembling them... and Taichi is idolized.

Hmm yeah.. the start of 02 didn't seem that very interesting.. Of course I watched it, but I wasn't that into it.. and I wanted to see Taichi . But anyway.. it really started to get better with the whole "Ken thing"

Really, there was an episode where TR didn't blast off? I want to see that. (Just a bit of warning though, TR still blasts off in AG... Which is still annoying, no matter what. Unless they add some humour into the blasting off scenes like in the manga...then maybe I can forgive them. )

It was the same for me too. I watched 02 just for the sake of Taichi, Yamato, Koushirou, Jou, Sora, and Mimi. (Mostly just Taichi and Koushirou though. ) It was also interesting when you realize how everything was set up since the beginning. (Unlike Adventures, where the black gears really didn't have much to do with the Dark Masters.)

Yup, Taichi is definitely idolized. For Takuya, it wasn't just the goggles. Their attitudes were extremely similar as well. (One of the reasons why Takuya is among my top 5 Favourite Digimon characters list.)

Oh my godness, TR didn't blast off. That's excatly what I though Kasumi when I read kihaku's post. That's just amazing


I thought Takuya was the man! I liked him better than Daisuke and the leader of Tamers, though he was different but still had his trademark googles.

Hey, I'm beginning to doubt myself now.
I think the ep was one of the Ash vs Gary one.. but I'm not sure.. anyway part of that tournament... I don't think I've witnessed an ep without TR at all, though.

Um, actually what I meant was that I didn't like the start of 02 because there wasn't enough of Taichi. And Agumon... Although I don't know why I'm complaining... from the "oldies" they got the most screen time.
Anyway, later I really started to appreciate the story though and I thought Ken's character to be one of the best (complex and intriguing) ever.

I don't know about Takuya, because I haven't seen Frontier(besides a few eps).. is he really that much like Taichi? (I'll probably like him a lot then)
Actually.. those "main guys", was it ever mentioned that they were actual leaders? I mean, Taichi was "chosen".. but weren't the others just assumed to be leaders? At least I don't remember Daisuke being a leader...

The important battle episodes usually don't have TR making trouble in them, so it's very likely for it to have been that episode.
Gah! Must get a hold of the Ash vs Gary ep.! (and also the Ash and Gary flashback ep.)

Yes, Takuya is a lot like Taichi. (and good-looking too! )

Taichi and Takuya are definite leaders. As for Daisuke... Well, Taichi giving him the goggles (THE goggles ) is sort of a sign for a "passing over the responsibilities" type of thing. So in a way (at least, in the way I see it), Taichi indirectly picked Daisuke as the new leader of the new group.

And Takato...He wasn't a leader... (He lacks leadership skills anyway.) There wasn't an actual "leader" in Tamers, and considering everyone's personality in Tamers, having a leader could make things A LOT more complicated (or annoying)

I really liked the ASh vs Gary eps... hey, maybe they will show reruns?
Anyway.. wow, I managed to remember to watch Pokémon AG.
I hadn't watched it for ages, but for some reason Ash had only managed to get one badge... Team Aqua seemed very interesting though...

I've only watched a bit of Frontier.. yeah, Takuya is cute, (still Taichi is the best ) but I haven't seen him in leader position just yet.
Yeah, I guess Daisuke could be considered the leader because of Taichi's goggles... that's what came into mind anyway. Despite the fact that he was supposed to be a lot like Taichi I found him to be quite different. As a leader type too.
Hmm... in Tamers there are very few characters aren't there? For a group of three there maybe isn't need for a leader? I don't know about the personalities though.. since I've seen justone ep. Anyway. while watching Frontier I also noticed that every Digimon season seems to have the main leader guy (goggles), the angsty guy (who is almost as important as the main guy and considered his equal) and the little guy.. well besides in Tamers.

*nods* Team Aqua and Team Magma seem very interesting. Unlike TR, there were actually evil (more serious). (I haven't watched AG for 3 or 4 months now... due to the time it airs...) I do remember Ash already having 4 or 5 badges the last time I watched it though. (and all 8 when I watched the RAW 3 or 4 months ago ) I wonder if AG already ended in Japan? I guess I should go check out the sypnosis later.

Actually, Tamers had a group of 8... (if I didn't leave out anybody ^^;; ) While it doesn't seem to fit the "traditional" role of goggle-boy leader, angsty character, and the little guy, Takato, Jenrya, Jenrya's sister(whose name I have forgotten), Ruki and Ryo do carry a bit of those roles. Ruki or Ryo would fit the angsty role...and to some extent, Jenrya too... Jenrya's sister fits the role of the little guy... And of course, Takato is the goggle boy.

It's actually quite interesting. Of the 4 seasons, Tamers seem to be the "stand-alone" series... even with Frontier. While Frontier is also a totally different series, I can still see a bit of Adventures in it. The characters and the storyline in Frontier is VERY similar to Adventures in my opinion.

Tamers follow quite a different storyline. It had a different take on many things, and I actually find Tamers the most angsty out of the 4 series. (or maybe it's just me.)

I haven't checked this threadd in awhile I'm back I can't stop liking digimon,

About Tamers I have to agree with Kasumi it's very unique compared to the other series. For one thing Takao is the only leader who had a similar personalilty to Taichi or Takuya. There hasn't been another girl like Rika either. I also like to say I am a RyoxRika fan XD and HenryxRika I can't decide.

I miss the good ol' days of Digimon. I heard a rumor recently that they were starting th series up again. Am I hearing things, or did it already start and I was just too out of it to notice? Last time I watched, there were only 4 seasons.

That's what I heard also. I loved that show up until season 4, when they took it away from the whole point.

I'm assuming the "new" series that you're talking about is the one hour movie that was released a few months back. I personally never got a chance to see it, but from what I've heard, the series it's a CG movie without any humans in it.

@Fresh_Coffee: And there hasn't been a girl like Juri either... She sort of freaked me out after that certain event took place... Although, I do understand how hard it must've for her.
I'm a JenryaxRuki fan...But I suppose RyoxRuki isn't bad either... The likelihood RyoxRuki working out is WAY higher than JenryaxRuki though. Hmm... I don't mind seeing RyoxRuki, but I'd definitely prefer JenryaxRuki.

Kasumi: I use to be a hardcore JenryaxRuki fan then I saw the potenial of RyoxRuki. If you had to put them both on the land I think I like JenryaxRuki a little bit more. XD Juri was an interesting character her interaction with Takao was sweet especially the memorable Subway moment.

I think you mean Takato, not Takao. (Takao is from Beyblades. XD)

*nods* The subway moment was definitely memorable. Too bad Juri didn't hear/acknowledge the confession the way we had all hoped. She had been too lost and hurt then.

Oh sorry Kasumi-Sama I'm getting confused. Yes I mean coughTakatocough. It was so sad I felt so sorry for Takato at the moment they reall deserve to be together. Which reminds me does Juri ever find out that Takato likes her to?

*blinks* Why are we back to "-sama" again?

I would think she does... After everything Takato went through for her, she'd at least get a hint. Who knows, maybe one day, on the subway, she'll remember Takato's confession. (At least I hope so)

For your great knowledge of course, Kasumi-Sama.

I wish I saw them with each other though. Atleast it didn't go down the drain like Taiora *pictures a very digi Christmas*