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Kasumi
@Kihaku: You brought up a lot of good points there! wink.gif It's real hard for me to counter. tongue.gif Although, I must say that the glory belongs to the Pokemon just as much as to the trainer. Without their Pokemon, a trainer is worthless.
I guess we all forget the fact that it's ultimately the Pokemon's choice to battle. Disobedience is an issue in the Pokemon world. Of course, there's always those who "force" their Pokemon to battle through abuse, but honestly, that's just a reflection of our world. There are always pet owners who abuse their pets.
Also, trainers are not the only type of competitors who use Pokemon in the Pokemon world. As introduced in AG, there are co-ordinators, people to enter their pokemon in beauty, intelligence, cute etc. contests.

I agree with you about the bonds being different in Digimon and Pokemon. As you said, Pokemon don't have the same connection/relation to their trainers as the digimon has toward Taichi & co., and the relation between the digimon and their partner is pretty much the plot behind the plot. wink.gif (and what makes Digimon Adventures the great series that it is! tongue.gif)

The kids were not fighting for a more justified purpose. Killing is not justified. At first, we thought nothing of it, because they're the "bad guys." Either way, it's still life, as we see/hear explained in 02.
I'm not saying Pokemon battles are justified either, because, they're not. I understand what you're saying though, compared to Digimon Adventures, Pokemon battles are pointless. Although, there's something we should consider:
Using Bulbasaur as an example, it wanted to battle due to its past. At one point, Bulbasaur was the protector of a village. Due to the fact that it wasn't strong enough, he almost couldn't protect those who were important. Bulbasaur is only fighting to become stronger so that it can protect. It's fighting for a personal goal.

That's why I think people need to realize that Pokemon and Digimon are two VERY different shows. They're fighting for different purposes. Pokemon focuses on fighting for their goals/dreams, while Digimon focuses on protecting what's important to them.


laugh.gif I just realized that a large portion of my long posts are usually aimed at you. See what you're doing? You're making me type long posts! tongue.gif (Although, it only seems to be in this thread. tongue.gif)

@Fresh_Coffee: As Kihaku said, having courage isn't just for one. There are hundreds of other anime before Pokemon and Digimon that focused on courage and friendship. wink.gif
Kihaku
Heh... wink.gif That was one great post. *apploads*
Um.. I must be affecting people.. how mean of me... You can also blame me for making Kase write so long posts. But it makes me happy that you guys actually take the trouble of thoroughly reading and providing great ansewers. smile.gif

Um to topic:
Yup, yup. You're totally right. I guess I forget that it's actually the Pokémon's choice (well in most cases). I suppose they're a type of species that likes to fight (like the saiyans in DBZ).. or I hope so anyway wink.gif

About fighting for a more justified purpose... well I don't consider wars being justified, but in Digimon it's not really equivalent to "wars" or "killing". At the start of Adventure they aren't actually killing anyone, but destroying the "dark gears". In 02 it's the dark rings. What I find intersting though is the fact that "destroying enemy Digimon" seemed to be so much easier in the Adventure series. In 02 they could easily destroy creations of the dark towers but even though BlackWarGreymon was part of many towers, the fact that he had a heart was somthing not to be ignored.
Still in both series, destroying isn't that easy for everyone. What I like about it, is that they actually worry if they're really doing "the right thing" and go through those inner conflicts, which makes it seem very realistic. Their situation is though pretty unavoidable and they really don't have a choice. Basically it's about doing what they have to to prevent the world from falling apart.
Also although Digimon are "alive", they have the chance to be "reborn", which makes the whole "killing process" seem more like correcting. Since they get the chance to start all over again.

Um.. what sometimes annoys me about Pokémon is the fact that there isn't really any danger of dying. Not that it's a bad thing, but being shocked by Pikachu or recieving a great amount of flames(supposed to melt mountains) from Charizard should do a little more damage... I guess it's that kind of series, but I would expect that even in the fights since they get knocked out and all, Pokémon should get seriously injured.... For a series based on mostly fighting, it's a little too tame and unrealistic in my opinion.
Kasumi
laugh.gif I like reading, so no problems there. wink.gif Hehe, this just proves how influential you are. tongue.gif Although, the long posts seem to only take place in certain threads. (You and Kase in the Shounen-ai thread, me and you in this thread) tongue.gif

Back to topic:
That's what has always been bugging me. Do all Digimon get reborn? In fact, do they actually get reborn? They say they do, but we haven't seen it happen. For all we know, it was probably said to make the kids feel slightly better about what they're doing.
The reason I doubt is because of Wizardmon. Why was he a ghost? Why didn't he get reborn? And Piximon, what about him? Ever since he "died" he wasn't mentioned ever again.

You're right, Pokemon is unrealistic in many ways. That's why I like it though. I watch a lot of dark, serious, and depressing anime, so Pokemon is a nice break from all that. There's a lot of humour contained within the series, so I get a good laugh whenever I watch it.
Besides, if Pokemon get seriously injured after every battle, things wouldn't work out. Pokemon battle all the time, so we can't have Ash worry over his Pikachu 24/7 and have 3/4 of the series take place within the hospital/Pokemon centre. wink.gif

Well, there's my "little" reply. tongue.gif *sighs* Now back to my mountain of homework. T_T
Fresh_Coffee
QUOTE(Kihaku @ Feb 18 2005, 04:38 AM)
Coffee:
I'm not sure what you mean... Um Pokémon started copying Digimon? Or?
About having courage? What do you mean by that? Since.. people having courage isn't exactly something just for one...
It's like being in love wink.gif not exactly something to copy...

Nagurikorosou:
Um.. not exactly tongue.gif There is a great difference between Pokémon and Digimon..
It's pretty obvious that Duel Masters was influenced by Yu-gi-oh!

Frog:
I think they loved the Pokémon too.. but I agree that it's a little contradictory to make your friends fight...
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It's something hard to explain you can dismay what I said I probably sound like an idiot XP. Anyway for Pokemon I still don't get why Pokemon like to be in Pokemon balls. What's so great about being in a red and white ball most of the time? XD? Maybe I'm just weird huh.gif
Kihaku
Kasumi:
I'm glad to influence others tongue.gif
heh, long replies tend to be long because of the topic.. We're very into shonen-ai/Digimon/Pokémon tongue.gif

Otherwise, yeah.. well Digimon is FULL of unanswered questions. Did we for example ever find out who on earth Gennai was?
yeah.. Wizardmon's ghost. With the village back and all... Maybe it's when the worlds are "in chaos" that things don't work out like they should. Or then Wizardmon was meant to be there as a ghost.. If it even was Wizardmon.. tongue.gif How hard.. But apparenly Wizardmon is in another series.. I don't know for sure having seen only Adventure and 02...
Piximon... maybe when he was rebron he evolved into something different?

It would make sense to have the "reborn theme" so that the kids won't feel so bad.. but still they did in 02. How confusing.
Also... what about those who weren't actually Digimon.. like Arukenimon, Mummymon and BlackWarGreymon? That's scary... Well 02 was much angstier than Adventure... and instead of explaining it made thing more complicated.

Yeah.. I guess such unrealistic shows like Pokémon and Beyblade can be pretty entertaining wink.gif. Well.. at least for me if I try not to think of how absurd they can be tongue.gif
Yup, certain funny part were great but I have to say that I got tired though of Team Rocket always having the same absurd role.. *sighs*

Coffee:
I guess there comes the idea "Pocket Monster" tongue.gif They're easy to transport.. tongue.gif
And it's easier for the animators when they don't have to draw every single Pokémon...
I think it's pretty unfair though that some just "don't like to be in the Poké balls" so they get more screentime. Yeah, I don't like Pikachu. (that screen hogger) tongue.gif
Fresh_Coffee
Hey Pikachu is so cool! When I was younger Pikachu use to be my bestfriend XD I did everything with my stuff animal Pikachu and have a pillow of Pikachu because I liked him that much! I was converted into Digimonism though laugh.gif
Kai99
i like digimon and i love pokemon, and my favourite seasons of digimon are season 1 and 2.
Dragons04
I love Digimon, I have Pokemon cards, doesn't matter to I'm 14, I'm still keeping them next to baseball cards.

I like Beyblade, I wrote a fanfic
Kihaku
Coffee:
I just tired of him being so much in the lime light tongue.gif
I like Patamon more smile.gif

Dragons:
Well.. I'm 19 and still love Digimon wink.gif
I don't have any cards... well some random stuff and I adore my Agumon plushie!:D
Azura Elric
Veemon is my favorite Digimon and yes I do love Digimon. Just season 1 and 2. Guilmon is so cute in Digimon Tamers though!
Don't collect the digmon cards anymore but I do still collect Pokemon cards.
Dragons04
Kihaku:

Are you 19?!

I still collect Pokemon cards and wrote Beyblade fanfics
Fresh_Coffee
QUOTE(Kihaku @ Feb 24 2005, 06:21 AM)
Coffee:
I just tired of him being so much in the lime light tongue.gif
I like Patamon more smile.gif

Dragons:
Well.. I'm 19 and still love Digimon wink.gif
I don't have any cards... well some random stuff and I adore my Agumon plushie!:D
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I have to second that Kihaku, Pikachu is cool and all but Patamon is better XD Is it me or has Kasumi been missing?
Dragons04
I think Kasumi is missing
Blade Alchemist
I love Digimon biggrin.gif but I think it started to get worse when the third season started airing. sad.gif
IronFlame
Digimon is not an anime to me..
Fresh_Coffee
QUOTE(IronFlame @ Feb 26 2005, 01:25 PM)
Digimon is not an anime to me..
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Care to justify your answer I just want to know why? wink.gif
anime freak- a- leak
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QUOTE(Gashole @ Nov 6 2004, 06:20 PM)
After awhile I lost track of which season is which. :D

But I remember I used to watch Pokemon religiously until Ash entered that tournament thing and lost. It didn't feel quite the same after Brock left. Then recently I saw it and got totally confused since Brock is back and there is a girl who was not Misty. :blink:

I also watched Digimon season 1 and 2. Season 1 was kind of stupid and had way too many characters, but I watched it for Sora and later, Kari. B) I think Digimon has a superior artwork to Pokemon, plus every now and then it actually has pretty funny jokes.

Didn't really like Monster Rancher etc. (Got tired of the whole monster thing by then.)
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anime freak- a- leak
i've loved digimon ever since i saw the first season thru the third season but i don't really like the fourth season because it really messes digimon up you know it's called digimon "digital monsters" not digikids "digital kids" but i watch it only for the beginning song . biggrin.gif
Fresh_Coffee
QUOTE(anime freak- a- leak @ Feb 26 2005, 07:06 PM)
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QUOTE(Gashole @ Nov 6 2004, 06:20 PM)
After awhile I lost track of which season is which. biggrin.gif

But I remember I used to watch Pokemon religiously until Ash entered that tournament thing and lost. It didn't feel quite the same after Brock left. Then recently I saw it and got totally confused since Brock is back and there is a girl who was not Misty. blink.gif

I also watched Digimon season 1 and 2. Season 1 was kind of stupid and had way too many characters, but I watched it for Sora and later, Kari. cool.gif I think Digimon has a superior artwork to Pokemon, plus every now and then it actually has pretty funny jokes.

Didn't really like Monster Rancher etc. (Got tired of the whole monster thing by then.)
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Oh yes, what ever happened to Misty she went back to her hometown or something 0_0 I thought that was kinda of odd she is the gym leader or something among those lines it's just kinda of odd they would cut her off because she's been there since the beginning.

Anime-freak-a-leak: Refain from double posting and use the edit button please wink.gif
Kasumi
*crawls out of the homework pile totally battered and bruised* Hey guys! I'm still alive! biggrin.gif

Ok, let's see, what did I miss?
Ah, more people have found this little thread. Hello everyone!

@Kihaku: Sorry I can't reply to your long post at the moment, but I promise to do so as soon as I get everything cleared and done. wink.gif

@Fresh_Coffee: Why Misty left goes quite a bit into the history of Pocket Monsters. laugh.gif Do you want to know why she left in the story or why the producers cut her off? Or both?

@IronFlame: Wow, that's a first. Usually, I only hear that said about Pokemon, but never Digimon. Well, I guess there's a first for everything. Although, a part of me is not surprised. wink.gif
Dragons04
*got a blanket* you need a rest from the falling into the homework pile
Ryo the Enigmatic Alchemist
::raises hand::
ooooo, I do!

i started watchin digimon when it came out, the 1st season was awesome, the whole idea of this lil group of kids getting sucked into another deminsion and get their own lil monsters.

the 2nd season however was still cool but it seemed like they didnt realy try for a diffrent story line......

but the best & 3rd season was sweet, eery1s fantasy monsters coming to life, and they even got to get to customize them with cards. and it had a sad yet hopeful ending.......it was sad how they had to send all their digis back to the digiworld but then Takato saw the digigate thing and got all bright eyed, i loved it

yet the 4th season was sorta sad......i still watched it but it had too much of a dark atmosphear to it......

and finaly the new X evolution movie seemed to be a last attempt at reviving digimon, it was kool, i mean digimon in complete cgi, how could that not be awesome? but the story was lil hard to follow......

neways, i still love digimon. speaking of which, ::pre-orders digimon world 4::
Dragons04
When the fifth season would begin?
Ryo the Enigmatic Alchemist
Who knows......there was supposed to be a 5th & 6th season
but all thats been going on in the digiworld is random mangas and a last attempt from a movie and a new game
Dragons04
I hate the reruns, I want the new episodes!
Fresh_Coffee
Kasumi: I was wondering where they heck you were , welcome back happy.gif I missed you. Yes, I would like to know both please if it isn't too much trouble.
Dragons04
do you know that he was stuck in homework pile?
Kihaku
OOh.. I'm been some time away... And will be until my computer comes back.. Now I'm at school... The only reason I'm here is because of the comp. smile.gif Since I've kind of finished with it tongue.gif

Dragons.
Yes, I'm 19 wink.gif Surprised?

IronFlame:
Same as most... why do you think that way?

Coffee:
Yeah.. that bit about Misty bothered me too.

Kasumi:
Is okay wink.gif

Ryo the Enigmatic Alchemist:
I actually thought that 02 had quite a different storyline.. Not only that, it kind of continued the from where the Adventure season left off. It does have the basic idea of first meeting Digmon and evovling into less developed monsters before everything else, but it also has a few new variations. Also, like I mentioned before the story is more angsty in my opinion and the children face different problems than during the Adveture season.

So X-evoluition ws the movie.. not an actual series... Well... while waiting for the other seasons I still have those others to catch up with. ..

Actually.... I lwouldn't mind seeing reruns wink.gif I doubt we'll be abe to get any Andventure and 02 have been airing here for four years(ending some time ago) and apparently it's time for something new.. Darn. I'd like to see more of those eps at once too wink.gif:
Kasumi
@Kihaku: Yeah, I agree... 02 really made things more complicated. Wizardmon was in Frontier, but considering Frontier does not relate to Adventures, it doesn't explain anything.
laugh.gif Gennai... That old man... I'm suspicious of him. He's hiding something. dry.gif tongue.gif
About Arukenimon, Mummymon, and Blackwargreymon... I highly doubt they can be reborn. sad.gif

laugh.gif Funny how you bring Beyblade into the discussion, but truthfully, I think it's more realistic than Pokemon. (it's the plotholes. Beyblade is full of them. tongue.gif) Not that I mind too much, considering I only for it for Kai and Rei. tongue.gif

Heh, you're not the only one who is tired of TR's role... "We're blasting off again" has gotten really annoying.

@Fresh_Coffee: I've missed you too! *hugs*
Ok, to answer your question:
As you probably know, Pokemon lost popularity mainly due to the Jouto season. The endless fillers and zero character development killed it. The Pokemon Company noticed the sudden decrease in the popularity and took action. They decided to end Jouto and start fresh. What better way to start fresh than starting a brand new series?

The result was Pocket Monsters AG. Anyway, a new series usually means new characters. The feeling the producers were aiming for was that AG is a series on its own where it does not relate to the previous 3 series.

So why keep Ash and Pikachu? Why not do what YGO did and make a series focusing on an entirely different character? The answer is, Ash has fans. And Pikachu has become the official mascot for Pokemon. (and it's for the sake of the old fans) Beside's, let's admit it, focusing on an entirely different character is pointless, because chances are, that new character will end up exactly like Ash. So why not just keep Ash?

Ok, on to Brock. Why keep him too? Hehe, this might surprise some of you, but Brock's departure made it to the Japan newspaper. So many fans demanded Brock to return that it became newsworthy. (Heh, I'll bet Brock is one of the most well-liked characters of all times. tongue.gif) Anyway, the producers doesn't wish to risk a similar situation happening again, so they kept him as well.

Needless to say, Misty has fans as well. But if they kept all 3 characters, then why would it be a new series? It wouldn't make any sense. So the producers took the chance. AND, in order to shut the fans up, they started airing Pokemon specials, and every once in a while, there will be an episode focusing on Misty's life as a gym leader.

In so many ways, AG is a repeat of the Kanto series, with the exception that it now follows the Ruby & Sapphire storyline. Ash is starting off with Pikachu, and he's left behind ALL of his other pokemon... (he had no Pokemon except Pikachu in the beginning of Kanto) He has to learn a few things all over again. Brock doesn't join him until 13 episodes into AG. (Brock didn't join Ash until ep. 5 of Kanto)

I must say AG is done A LOT better than Jouto. Less fillers, more character development. By the way, even though I say AG is similar to the very first season of Pokemon, it's not all that similar. This has to do with the new characters that join Ash... and could be considered the main characters of AG.

Whew, that's all I can say for now... I know I didn't answer why Misty left in the story, but I'll save that for another day. Need to get back to work now.

@Dragons04: Um...Actually, I'm a girl... ^^;;
Blackwings
Pokemon on anime sucks cus its designed 4 very young kids 2 watch and has no real story line 2 it but
pokemon manga is way better cus its actually has a story and its got way better characters too i personaly really dont like Ash on Tv series but really like Red on pokemon special manga..
Guest
I'm a fan of Digimon myself . In fact one of my fanmade Digimon was based from Nina in her chimera-form (Which reminded me of a "cute-doggie" version of Wendigomon{When her muzzle is barely visable}.)
Kihaku
Kasumi:
Hey! A long post! biggrin.gif
Oh yeah.... about Frontier.... Again, it might not have been the same Wizardmon... *sighs* Or then his rebirth was prolonged because he had another mission to fulfill. Like he couldn't pass on just yet.. but did later, and got reborn later. wink.gif
And Gennai... not only did he have something to do with the past, but even though he was already an old man in the Adventure season, he was back to being young in 02 and brought along a few clones... who were... well something... The most we got know about him was prob that he wasn't a human or a Digimon. Like that wasn't clear anyway. tongue.gif

Beyblade more realistic than Pokémon? How on earth? tongue.gif I mean.. tops with beasts inside them that can obviously be manipulated after they're set spinning. I mean... yay.. I bet I can make my top do tricks by shouting at it...
Plotholes? What kind?

heh.. this kind of drifted to Pokémon too... but whatever..
Wow, you know a lot!
It's funny. I actually would have really been interested in Pokémon if it had had completely new characters.. I loath Ash (sorry) and dislike Pikachu....
I guess with YGO it was that the actual story in the manga that the series was based on ended too so the "new" series wouldn't focus on those characters.. I actually wouldn't have mind seeing them...
Digimon worked as a new series with new characters and also with COMPLETELY new ones. Even though I really liked the previous ones I didn't mind the change.
Brock made it into the newspaper? Ooh.. but I would have wanted Gary back! biggrin.gif

Blackwings:
Well... I have read some of the manga.. I don't remember it too well..
It was pretty okay, but I remember liking the anime a little more (at least the first season)
Tamago
I STILL LIKE IT...happy.gif I LOIKE THE 1 WITH TAKUYA BEST tongue.gif .
Fresh_Coffee
I agree with Kihaku beyblade isn't realistic actually I find it pretty stupid with the whole yah spinning tops can destroy a whole room ahahha but I was a fan well I watched because ummm like Kasumi for Rei and Kai. XD well more Kai.

Kihaku: I liked Gary too, he was really funny but Brock was cool too and I dislike Ash too same main character stuff.

Kasumi: Thanks happy.gif I'm awaiting for the next long post why in the series she left because I always thought she had a thing for Ash.
Kihaku
Oh gosh, I forgot to mention Rei and Kai smile.gif They're also one reason I watch it.. oh and of course ReixKai tongue.gif

Tamago:
Takuya... Isn't he the one in Frontier? I've actually seen a few eps of that.. I'll hope to see the rest.. but I'd really like to see Tamers first...

Coffee:
Yay! new avatar! (or then I'm just slow and haven't realised it yet)
Yup, I liked Brock too, but Gary was my favourite. smile.gif
Kasumi
laugh.gif A little misunderstanding there, I meant compared to Pokemon, Beyblades is more realistic. Ok, we all know why these 2 series are unrealistic, but I think other than the whole bitbeast and being able to control their blades with their minds, everything else is okay. Besides, normal people aren't supposed to be able to see Bitbeasts. (One of the plotholes I was talking about. In the second season, it was specifically said normal people can't see bitbeasts, but at the tournaments, that didn't seem to be the case...)

@Kihaku: laugh.gif I used to be a crazy Pokemon fan, so it's natural for me to know those stuff, right? tongue.gif You would've been interested in Pokemon if Ash isn't the main character? Weird, because if that was the case, I'd expect you to be a Pokemon manga fan. Wait a minute, which manga did you read? Den Geki or Special?

I want Gary back too! Although, that isn't likely considering they wrote him out of the show because his VA left. For some strange reason, Gary was featured in one of the Pokemon Specials a while back...with the same VA... But after that Special, he was never heard from again... sad.gif

Going back to Digimon, wasn't it explained why Gennai was reverted to his younger form in 02? At least, I think it was explained...

@Fresh_Coffee: Explanation of why Misty left, coming right up! biggrin.gif
Apparently, the producers ran out of creative ideas and got Misty's sisters to win a "round-the-world" trip at a supermarket... Without anyone to run the gym, her sisters ask her to go back to run the gym until they get back from their trip. (Pretty selfish of them, wouldn't you agree? tongue.gif) Anyway, as we all know, Misty went back to become the gym leader, therefore, leaving Ash alone on his journey.

Now, all trips come to an end at some point. Her sisters ARE back now, HOWEVER, Misty's sisters are horrible Pokemon trainers. In order to rebuild the Cerulean Gym's reputation and get closer to achieving her dream as the world's greatest WATER Pokemon trainer, she has decided to stay and continue to be the Gym Leader.

About the whole "Misty has a thing for Ash," yes, she does. In fact, she confessed in ep. 275, aka the last episode. (Actually, ep. 276 is the last episode, but considering 276 was simply a tie in episode to AG, I don't consider that to be the last episode) Confused? Alright then, forget the whole "last episode" stuff. tongue.gif But before anybody jumps to any conclusions, NO, she did not outright say "I love you." She simply gave him a handkerchief.

A little bit of history here, in the medieval times, a handkerchief is usually given by the girl to their "knight in shining armour." In the japanese version, as Misty departs, she wonders if Ash got her message/meaning. (I don't know why the entire line was changed in dub, considering the people who work on the dub are mostly AshxMisty fans. <--Surprised? Maybe they thought people wouldn't understand the handkerchief meaning?) Anyway, we know Ash is a dense kid, so as expected, he didn't catch the meaning.

And yes, this is my long post of the day. More about Beyblade and Pokemon than Digimon, but it's to be expected, right? tongue.gif laugh.gif
Chibi-Usa
Um.......Wow mellow.gif
Fresh_Coffee
Kasumi: Long post, Kasumi you write such long post sometimes how do you do it? Kihaku too, does Ash like Misty too? I'm asking so many questions sorry but Kasumi-san has such great knowledge *nods in awe* So Pokemon is over and new eps will no longer be airing? Jesse and James get married happy.gif that's all I know it's not such a big suprise at all I think I saw it somewhere in this forum.

Oh I forgot I love MAX XD he is just so cute but maybe too cute for his own good. I though Kihaku would support KaixTyson. I'm a TysonxHiromi kill me I just find their aruging mmmm funny like.
Kasumi
@Fresh_Coffee: No need to be sorry, I enjoy answering questions! biggrin.gif How do I write long posts? Um... I have no idea... mellow.gif
laugh.gif All I know is that ever since Kihaku made that first long post in this thread, my following posts were all long. Maybe it's my tendency to reply point for point, sentence for sentence. *shrugs* Er... We'll see what Kihaku has to say... Most likely, her reason for making long posts would be the same as mine. wink.gif

Heh, it's hard to say whether Ash likes Misty in that way or not. Apparently, all that fills Ash's mind is Pokemon and food... He doesn't seem to think about anything else, never mind getting into a romantic relationship with one of his closest friends. (Manga Den Geki! Ash, however, is a different story altogether.)

There are still new episodes of Pokemon, but it's Pokemon AG. (there's a difference between Pokemon and Pokemon AG. wink.gif You might want to re-read my previous-previous post if you're confused. wink.gif)

Um...No, Jesse and James are not married. (They're married in the manga Den Geki though!)

Somehow, I always knew Kihaku would be a ReixKai supporter. happy.gif And I hope you meant TysonxKai instead of KaixTyson? ^^;;
Kihaku
Kasumi:
yeah.. I know that you meant compared to Pokémon.. but I still find Pokémon more realistic... The idea isn't quite as ridiculous as Beyblade.. and I can't come up with anything that defies logic. tongue.gif
Oh, I didn't know that about the bitbeasts... Guess I'm out of luck when we get abour half of each season shown here sad.gif

I kind of figured you used to be a crazy Pokémon fan biggrin.gif
heh, Don't get me wrong.. I liked Ash at first.. well kind of. I liked the first season of Pokémon (the second season wasn't shown around here) then... I didn't like it anymore... I think I might have got tired of seeing always the same characters... and Ash started to annoy me a little. I would have prob. been interested in the next season if it had provided something newer.
The manga... I really don't know which manga I've read.. I remember that one mentioned before with Red... (and Blue?) and then there was another kind.. I believe I've read a few vols from two separate manga.. it's been some time ago, so I hardly remember anything.

Waah! sad.gif Gary was such a great chracter and not so overused as Ash.. tongue.gif The series isn't anything without Gary.. tongue.gif (kidding) I mean.. if there's Ash.. there has to be Gary...

My ownly insert on the actual Digimon topic:
They explained why Gennai was younger in 02? Reallly? I don't remember. What was it? And i don't think they explained the "clones" properly... Some were friends and some were "part" of Gennai.. and uh... tongue.gif

Ash and Misty... I never really found anything really between them.. I mean.. yeah.. I think Misty had given hope of getting her bike back and probably was following Ash around for other reasons... but I don't know.. I think they seemed good friends.. tongue.gif
However.. she seemed always pretty angry when Brock was flirting with girls tongue.gif... so who knows about the future... I kind of liked pairing those two (I wonder about the age difference though?)
And Ash... I think he has the best interaction with Gary (don't tell me you didn't see that coming tongue.gif). There's definitely chemistry between them... who knows if they had been the ones travelling together...

Coffee:
Hmm... I make long posts... because I guess I'm just so into something and have a lot to say. I rather not make long posts, because I don't expect everyone to be that patient.. I like reading them though. And.. like Kasumi said.. I reply also to everything.. or to everything I can...
and yeah.. I made the first long post (shame on me) and Kasumi was nice enough to take the trouble of replying.

hah... to Beyblade again... You thought I was a KaixTakao(Tyson) supporter? Hmm.. well actually Beyblade might be one of those that I like pairing all the four with each other.. well mosty anyway... From the beginning KaixTakao seemed most plausible.. but I liked the connection between Rei and Kai much more.. I have seen very little of it though, because we get(as I mentioned before) bits and pieces of that series...(but my "radar" deicides sometimes which characters totally fit together) Anyway.. I like it when I can pair my two favourite (and cutest) characters together... Oh, my other fave would be Takao/Max of course.
Kasumi, you don't seriously think that Tyson could be the seme and Kai the uke? laugh.gif Although somehow I'm not that surprised...
Sure... Kai is an angsty character and with Rei he's an uke.. but again.. the main character's rival just has to best him in something... Also Kai is kind of superior to Tyson.. in pretty many ways. I could imagine him being in control... although I can see him submitting to Rei.. Just not Tyson.. I mean, I can't see anyone submitting to him..besides maybe Max, because he's so nice...
Hitomi? Is that Hilary? (gosh I hate dub names). I think she's pretty annoying at times.. and seems more interested in other guys besides Tyson...
I find the pairing very Ash/Misty -ish.. tongue.gif

Random comment still:
Ooh.. Jesse and James get married? yay! I kind of liked them as a couple. That's canon then. *nods*
This turned out to be a long post. biggrin.gif
Kasumi
@Kihaku: laugh.gif TR blasting off is something that defies logic. tongue.gif
The second season of Pokemon is, perhaps, my favourite season out of all. There were a lot of character development for Ash and Misty. What more was that Ash actually ACHIEVED something.

Gary's cool... And out of everyone, I think he had the most character development. From the annoying brat to a extremely cool and powerful trainer. tongue.gif

About Misty being angry whenever Brock is flirting with other girls... Well, I don't know... If I were her, I'd be pretty angry too. What would you do if your friend started going ga-ga over every person of the opposite sex? I'd be pretty embarassed.
Age difference between Brock and Misty... 4 years... So it's highly possible... wink.gif
laugh.gif Oh, I saw that coming alright. Ash/Gary...or Gary/Ash... This one works out fine both ways. tongue.gif If they had been the ones travelling together? Hehe, I'm sorry if I keep mentioning the manga, but at the end of Den Geki, Ash and Gary were the ones travelling together. biggrin.gif Being them, they got into all sorts of arguments/squabbles, as well as life/death situations. If you ask me, I'm sure they've grown A LOT closer with eachother by travelling together. tongue.gif

DIGIMON:
I thought Gennai explained himself...But I can't remember, so I can't be sure... sad.gif

Replying is never much trouble for me, and I love reading your long posts! biggrin.gif

Takao is straight-forward and brash, so I see him as the seme in every relationship. He's the type to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants. wink.gif
TakaoxKai reminds me and Kensuke... Takao=Daisuke, Kai=Ken
Although, why the seme/uke is reversed... I don't know... tongue.gif
(Hey, look! I somehow managed to keep this post slightly ON topic! laugh.gif )

TakaoxHitomi... (I'm assuming Hitomi is Hilary...) Well, I see it. It's because it's so AshxMisty-ish that I see it. (Yes, former AshxMisty fan here. wink.gif)

Ok, another long post. biggrin.gif Not nearly as long as my previous ones though. tongue.gif
Dragons04
what about ReixTakao and MaxxKai, is it unusual or what?

some fanfic add TalaxKai BryanxRei
Kihaku
Kasumi:
So true... And I absolutely hate the part with them blasting off.. and not getting hurt.. I suppose it wouldn't be that bad if it's just used once in a while as comic relief(like in many anime series) but all the time? That's when I started paying attention to it.... And well, like I metnioned before the fact that hardly anyone actually gets hurt. Still those are just kind of unrealistic things that can be explained (unrealistically) tongue.gif I think the spinning top with it's own mind that can be effected by other minds is much worse... It hurts my head

Of course the second season is something to be skipped here. I've heard before that the second season was actually pretty good. Pity... I would have stuck with Pokémon a little longer.

Yeah, Gary soo deserved more screen time. Actually I wasn't such a big fan of him at first, but I really liked him later.
Oh.. Ash and Gary travel together in the Den Geki manga?Oh! That has awesome possibilities then. biggrin.gif Darn, darn manga.... Is it available somewhere? Licensed by whom? I wonder if it is that what I've read.. I'm sorry for sounding so dumb, but I really can't remember much from what I've read.
And.. if you ask me (and even if you don't I'l tell you anyway) I consider GaryxAsh to be more likely... although I guess AshxGary could work... Gary just seems to be a more dominating type and a person to get his way (and Ash doesn't).. but Ash isn't such an uke either...

Heh, I'd find it kind of insulting if my friend who's a boy seems to be interested in every member of the opposite sex, besides me. Yay, thanks for that! tongue.gif But also with Brock and Misty.. i think it might work in the since that he would be interested in her because of herself.. not her gender.. tongue.gif

And something on the topic Digimon (well... Pokémon hasn't got it's own thread so I suppose it doesn't matter that much)
It would be very likely that Gennai would explain it himself.. since I'd think that the children might be a little surprised to see him young again.. which brings me to the next thing that bothers me... the fact in Adventure when the kids saw the vision of the past.. they recognised the young man to be Gennai.. I didn't exactly see the resemblance.. they're clever kids...

Interesting... Takao is quite a lot like Daisuke.. but don't you remember, Daisuke is the uke! wink.gif I see both to be too nice to be seme though.. Takao seems like a person who would fight a bit for it though.. tongue.gif Ken and Kai don't seem that much alike though.. Well besides the fact of "becoming a good guy"... Ken seems.. so much softer and nicer (very ukeish actually..tongue.gif) and his reason for not being as social like Kai isn't becuase he resents people, but is scared that he's resented...
I think Kai/Takao to be somehow the same as Sasuke/Naruto wink.gif My reasoning behind both pairings was pretty much the same. Plus those characters are very similar wink.gif Sasuke=Kai Takao=Naruto and it seems to me that with both pairings there are two sides... wink.gif

Dragons:
yeah.. I could see ReixTakao wink.gif Like I mentioned before.. I could pretty much pair anyone.... Um and KaixMax.. maybe not so much because I haven't seen that many hints.. (but I haven't seen much of the series)
Dragons04
true, hey it's time for Whammy!

*runs to the tv*
Kihaku
Okay.. there was a lot of point in that.. tongue.gif
Um.. that means you agree with me, right? On what? tongue.gif
Dragons04
I agree with you on both of the pairings but what about BryanxRei, TalaxKai
Kihaku
Oh, I forgot about those.. tongue.gif
Who are Bryan and Tala? Either I don't rememeber them.. or don't know them. tongue.gif
Dragons04
Bryan Kutznesov, a lavender-haired boy, with Tala's Demolition Boys or in G Revoultion, Blitzkrieg Boys

Tala Ivanov- a red-haired boy, a former teammate with Kai
Kihaku
Okay wink.gif. I prob. haven't seen those series. G-revolution?
Currenlty V-force is airing here.. I thought KaixWyatt was pretty cute smile.gif
Gosh.. I'm so off topic now.. have to keep this somehow related to Digimon...
Um... Yay for kensuke and taito! biggrin.gif
(couldn't do better tongue.gif)
Fresh_Coffee
Kasumi: Of course I meant TysonxKai ph34r.gif So James and Jesse get married in the manga interesting. How do you know all this stuff XD? I forgot almost all the Pokemon knowledge I had gain the last place where I left off was when they were trying to get that special Pokeball studied or something? Yes, Hitomi is Hilary.

Kihaku: Well yes Hitomi is kinda of a player XD it seems she has a connection with Kai too. Their relationship is Ash/Misty-ish. Wyatt/kai? I dislike Wyatt it kills me to see Kai friend's with him. Though I can see why you would think they are cute but still something about Wyatt ticks me off. Is it me or does Kai just attract everyone some way? Tyson has rivarly towards him, Max respects him and is happy go lucky. Rei and Kai are somewhat on the same level... etc

Yes, anyway on Digimon I don't remember if I mentioned this early but does everyone know Digimon has been dis-continued? It was suppose to run for 7 seasons but then because of the popularity rates going down Toei animation decided to stop it unsure.gif
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