TheVileOne
Jan 9 2005, 10:52 PM
An interesting theory I've devised about Bleach:
Spoiler: (Click here to Display)
I don't think Ichigo is really Kurosaki's son. We know that Ichi's uncle is/was a Shinigami...but what if it went deeper than that? I think Ichigo's startling resemblance to Rukia's old vice Captain Kaien is more than just a coincidence. I think Ichi is really KAIEN'S SON! Here's the deal, we hear Kaien's wife died. But what if she didn't die? What if she was pregnant with his son and was somehow banished to the real world from Spirit Society. She marries Dr. Kurosaki and he believed Ichigo is his son. Is this just totally impossible or is there any credence to it? I think it explains his hair, his strong spirit awareness/abilities, natural talent, etc. Not to mention he's EXACTLY like Rukia's old vice captain. I can't believe that's just coincidental.
Fresh_Coffee
Jan 10 2005, 06:51 AM
It could be possible TheVileOne 0_0
blueices
Jan 19 2005, 11:10 PM
Coffee, are you still on 149

(probably not right?)
I have read them up to 154 but the last 3 or so are done by manga7 since manga-rain has been taking a while) If you want them I could email it to you..
Thanks for getting me hooked (eternally grateful)
As for the manga itself: Its amazing that this arc has lasted so long and yet is still so exciting. Ichigo's power is absolutely insane. When will we find out what he really is?? There surely is some backstory our favorite strawhat merchant is keeping from us
Fresh_Coffee
Jan 21 2005, 06:08 PM
Blue: You right, I read the new manga. I really want to read more. I agree Ichigo's power is crazy. I'm interested in Yoruchi! I wanna know more about her. She seems cool too. Hitsugaya where is he?

I find him and Hinamori relationship so cute. Another Bleach lover join the club! It's addictive! @_@
blueices
Jan 28 2005, 04:00 PM
Chapter 158 just came out, and we have yet to see Ichigo fight Kuchiki! :::bites fingernails:::
Interesting fights are happening everywhere, it seems like there's no end in sight to this arc
Fresh_Coffee
Jan 31 2005, 02:33 PM
I miss the chapter where they show that Kuchiki had a relationship with a girl that look liked Rukia, anyone which chap? I'm trying not to read the chapters so in a month I can read ten of them.
blueices
Jan 31 2005, 03:44 PM
that's a good idea! (resists urge to look at 159)

I can't resist! (I'm going to try to resist the Naruto manga for a while so that I can get a big juicy read) So I guess I can't help but give into Bleach in exchange
Fresh_Coffee
Feb 1 2005, 11:05 AM
It's normal I didn't read naruto for a month , I got bored so what the heck might aswell. Although it's kinda of boring right now although the new Naruto is still cool. I can't remember but did Manga7 catch up and what happened to Bleach world weren't they attached to Naruto Fan?
blueices
Feb 1 2005, 03:10 PM
Manga 7 is almost caught up (they just released 160)
...um I've never used bleachworld. I got my manga downloads from directmanga.com (a great site btw)
I'm actually 2 or three chapters behind because of school work, so maybe I'll wait awhile and have a big juicy read.
(A reason why I like the FMA manga so much is because the once a month release supplies a long enjoyable chapter each time...not just 17 pages with a few words here and there

)
Fresh_Coffee
Feb 1 2005, 03:13 PM
Yes I know I love directmanga although there severs are packed now. I've read so much manga from that website I feel like an expert. I just remember getting interested in bleach because Naruto fan kept on promoting it so that was a good thing. It's getting harder and harder to not read the new bleach manga it's just waiting for me *drool*
Asakura_yoh
Feb 2 2005, 05:59 AM
wow... XD didn't see this topic.. and yeah!!!! bleach is sooooo good ^^;;; I felt that Bleach is rather nicer than Naruto now.. TT__TT heaven yes, I do like Bleach so much ^^ It is so addictive ^^;
Greedy
Feb 2 2005, 12:05 PM
Hrmmm all i gotta say about Bleach is <3.
Asakura_yoh
Feb 3 2005, 06:14 AM
Hmm.. I think I can understand that lol ^^
blueices
Feb 3 2005, 08:05 AM
It seems that we have all the chapters up to 162 now (dances with glee) I had quite an enjoyable read last night (157-162)
[spoiler]I'm so proud of Ichigo! Did anyone notice that when he released his Bankai it also gave him the jacket that Zangetsu always wears? Does that mean he's merged a bit with his Zanpakutou?
I'm so glad we've finally come to the main fight (the others are interesting, but I really want to see Ichigo sublimate the joint)

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Fresh_Coffee
Feb 3 2005, 07:54 PM
must not read bleach manga Fresh_Coffee must hold back. This is killing me! WHY!
Asakura_yoh
Feb 4 2005, 05:24 PM
You are actually hmm... confusing me.. -.-;;
Kagebu
Feb 5 2005, 03:38 PM
QUOTE(TheVileOne @ Jan 9 2005, 10:52 PM)
An interesting theory I've devised about Bleach:
[spoiler]I don't think Ichigo is really Kurosaki's son. We know that Ichi's uncle is/was a Shinigami...but what if it went deeper than that? I think Ichigo's startling resemblance to Rukia's old vice Captain Kaien is more than just a coincidence. I think Ichi is really KAIEN'S SON! Here's the deal, we hear Kaien's wife died. But what if she didn't die? What if she was pregnant with his son and was somehow banished to the real world from Spirit Society. She marries Dr. Kurosaki and he believed Ichigo is his son. Is this just totally impossible or is there any credence to it? I think it explains his hair, his strong spirit awareness/abilities, natural talent, etc. Not to mention he's EXACTLY like Rukia's old vice captain. I can't believe that's just coincidental.[/spoiler]
Okay, I know I'm late, but... What?
[spoiler]I'm very curious; Where do you get the idea that Ichigo has an uncle who is/was a Shinigami? If you're referring to Zangetsu, then you're looking too much into the translation. Ichigo wasn't calling Zangetsu a blood relative, but rather, more like an "old man," and not literally his "uncle." The translation was misleading. Not to mention, Zanpaku swords aren't Shinigami themselves, but a means of manifesting a Shinigami's spiritual power. The spirits that we see (so far only Zangetsu and Zabimaru) are the hearts of the swords themselves.
Also, Kaien's wife was indeed killed. We see Kaien beholding her corpse, sparking the idea of revenge, where we later found out that the Hollow had chomped her in half and didn't finish the rest of her. She's quite dead.
I've personally chalked it up to reincarnation, but I don't want to believe it because of how corny and cliche the idea is. I'm sure Kubo-sensei has a better idea in mind.[/spoiler]
Asakura_yoh
Feb 5 2005, 11:25 PM
well.. all we need to do is wait and suspect the unexpected ones XD
Fresh_Coffee
Feb 8 2005, 02:50 PM
Kagebu I saw your theory on the bleach forums actually very interesting approach.
blueices
Feb 13 2005, 10:13 AM
Definetely in agreement with Kagebu here....I think we need to wait a bit longer to find out why Ichigo is so bloody powerful
Based on comments made on the past, 'Straw-hat" guy

and Byakuya obviously know
something. I have a feeling that Ichigo is going to be the "legendary....(something or other)" Maybe a prophecy about a guy like him showing up every X number of years
As For Bleach News:
Its been announced that we'll propably getting new chapters tomorrow.
Nope that's not a typo, It's multiple chapters
[blue does dance of glee]
Fresh_Coffee
Feb 13 2005, 02:19 PM
New chapters XD alright I'll break my bleach fast and read some manga already!
blueices
Feb 13 2005, 09:19 PM
ch165 and 166 just dropped (does the shinigami zanpaktou dance)
Head over to bleach7
Fresh_Coffee
Feb 14 2005, 04:24 PM
Manga7 is amazing they are so fast compared to Manga-Rain they were great but way too slow for me XD Someone answer this question does Hitsugaya show up?
blueices
Feb 14 2005, 04:45 PM
ah no...he hasn't been around for a while =(
Where exactly did you stop coffee? I don't want to accidently spoil you by saying what's been going on the last 6 or so chapters.
[spoiler]
The Hollow came out! Interesting, Interesting. I keep wondering whether Mr. Straw-hat anticipated that side-effect or not.
As for the final strike to come it'll probably be some blast big enough to destroy the little mountain they're on

I somehow suspect neither will die though (yet) (Kind of like the Naruto/Gaara battle)
I can't wait to find out why Byakuya didn't want to save his Rukia[/spoiler]
TheVileOne
Feb 14 2005, 09:54 PM
Its fairly simple, Byakuya is a proud bastard and an asshole. He probably never even liked it when Rukia came into his family in the first place.
blueices
Feb 14 2005, 10:03 PM
But then what's with that shrine in his house? It seems like a deceased family member that looks just like Rukia (or is it a picture of Rukia?) If so, then there's got to be something else going on maybe.
TheVileOne
Feb 14 2005, 11:45 PM
Is Ichigo's Hollow personality that evil Ichigo doppleganger he met while he was training with the embodiment of his soul slayer?
blueices
Feb 15 2005, 07:46 AM
I would think so, he repeated what he said that time too, that it would be troublesome if he died. (He said other, slightly creepy things too. But I can't remember what)
I knew something was up when that mask kept randomly showing up on Ichigo despite the fact he kept getting rid of it. (Creepy!)
Fresh_Coffee
Feb 16 2005, 04:27 PM
Yes I finally got off Bleach Diet and I'm dying for more. So Ichigo is a hollow 0_0 well half hollow? I wanna know what's going on with Soifon and why Yoruich helped Urahara escape. Why was he captured in the first place. Does anyone know the chapter where we see that girl who looks a lot like Rukia I missed it 0_0.
TheVileOne
Feb 23 2005, 09:51 AM
Translated chapter 167 of the manga is out. And well...the Ichigo/Byakuga fight is over...well who do you think won?
I think this war between Soul Society and Ichigo is kind of stupid actually. While they are fighting and injuring each other, the Hollows are waiting in the wings getting ready to strike probably when they will be most vulnerable. They should be fighting together.
filimonovna
Feb 24 2005, 10:38 AM
I really love Bleach! I've read only 3 volumes by now, but my friend promised to give me the others...
I think this manga is simply great! The mangaka's drawing style is really cool, it's really unusual and simply great!
Fresh_Coffee
Feb 24 2005, 04:45 PM
Well I'm going to read it now because I can't I wanna see some action!
blueices
Feb 24 2005, 11:01 PM
QUOTE(TheVileOne @ Feb 23 2005, 11:51 AM)
I think this war between Soul Society and Ichigo is kind of stupid actually. While they are fighting and injuring each other, the Hollows are waiting in the wings getting ready to strike probably when they will be most vulnerable. They should be fighting together.
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I think the fight between the soul society and Ichigo is also part of an even bigger problem that we have yet to understand. (and perhaps the greater political turmoil within the soul society is meant to weaken the whole structure against hollows/insurgent shinigami/ etc)
As the end of this chapter showed, something bigger is still going on. Something is suspicious about the 1st and 3rd captains, the 5th captain Aizen Sousuke's death is still unexplained, and then there was that slaughter we just saw at the end of this chapter.
Furthermore we still don't know why/who was thirsting for Rukia's death so badly and why (people did admit that it was odd that they wanted her dead so quickly desperately)
I'm guessing that Rukia, Ichigo, and even a large chunk of the captains are pawns in someone's larger plan...sure everyone suspects Ichimaru Gin....but who knows?
I'm hoping that now that the big Ichigo/Byakuya battle is over they'll be moving into these more complex issues. (looking forward to it)
Fresh_Coffee
Feb 26 2005, 07:03 PM
I read 167 I'm now wondering what's going on with Hitsugaya now that we got to see a glimpse on what's going on with him.
Blackwings
Mar 5 2005, 12:44 AM
Bleach is great! its got such a interesting story line ichigo is awsome i really like his sword too
xrninja
Mar 5 2005, 01:22 AM
well blue, you asked for it and got it. chapter 169:

(scanlations aren't out yet, i read the raw. there are translations floating around out there but i didn't bother to look for any.)
[spoiler]so, wtf. aizen is alive?! and after a reunion and embrace with the teary, overjoyed, way-too-cute hinamori, he smiles, and then runs her through with his sword.
o_O
so she's shocked and bleeding and slumps on the ground, and aizen calls to gin and they walk off to do more evil evil deeds. so now gin and aizen are in cahoots and hinamori is dying? (God, i love kubo tite. plot twist!) but anyway, now would be a really good time for hitsugaya to come in and rescue his soulmate, hinamori...9__9[/spoiler]
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 12 2005, 06:18 PM
OH MY GOD! I JUST READ 169 and 170 HOLY 21u0432u8903270230u23u0. I CANNOT BELIEVE IT! *dies*
hakai-kun
Mar 15 2005, 02:30 AM
plot twists. gotta luv 'em. XD I also kinda wonder how every back home is doing. Like Ichigo's sisters and Tatsuya... or something. XD
btw, when was there a girl who looked like Rukia? I don't remember that. Anyone know what chapter that was?
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 15 2005, 05:20 AM
I've been wondering that too because I accidently skipped it but nobody answered my question 0_0.
Sycia
Mar 15 2005, 01:25 PM
*Whips out Bleach manga volume 16*
Hmmm that would be the very end of chapter 137~
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 15 2005, 07:15 PM
Thanks so much Sycia-san ^^; I'm still not over the whole shock of chapter 169 and 170 I should have waited!
Sycia
Mar 16 2005, 03:45 PM
The latest volumes you mean?
Yeah.... I was kinda O_O too... Poor white haired chibi-san... *suddenly get bitten by an angry frost dragon outta nowhere*
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 16 2005, 03:58 PM
Yup, Sycia it wasn't at the end of 137 well I didn't see it when I downloaded on what special chapter featured history on momo and hitsugaya? XD
[spoiler] I can't believe momo died *Cries* and Captain Aizen is alive WTH? Talk about twist [/spoiler]
Sycia
Mar 16 2005, 04:11 PM
*Fights off angry frost dragon still biting her over that 'chibi' comment*
Gomenasai... it's 138.. >_< Gomen!
[spoiler]I knew that Gin wasn't the mastermind behind whatever plot there was (:P The big bad guy is never revealed that early...), but I sure wasn't expecting Aizen-taichou.... I'm still wondering what Ichigo is to their plans...[/spoiler]
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 16 2005, 04:32 PM
Thanks XD Sycia-San

I want a dragon
[spoiler] I know I knew Gin was part of it but I didn't expect him to be the big man but Azien 0_0 that was just scary and he even kill Momo let's hope she's alive. [/spoiler]
Sycia
Mar 16 2005, 05:14 PM
*Frost dragon finally leaves... with one of Sycia's arms....* :O
[spoiler]>_< The manga artist can't leave Momo or Chibi-san dead!!!!!! I just refuse to believe these 2 characters will stay dead~~~[/spoiler]
*Sees frost dragon returning for another arm*
Uh oh. I'd better learn to spell that guy's name out right.... *sweatdrops*
And I hope I gave you right right chapter... o_o;
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 21 2005, 06:25 PM
Oh my goodness, I just read the next chapter stop killing us please. What about the children!!
Yes I got the right chapter Sycia-san thank you!
Falling_Man
Mar 21 2005, 07:41 PM
I'm a wimp... ;_;
I'm reading the Shonen Jump version released in America. Now I'm hooked. The sword Ichigo has is great. I'm thinking of redesigning a sword I sketched based on it.
For some reason, this remined me of Shaman King. Meh, who cares...
I realize that most manga publishers (especially Shonen Jump) tend to butcher good manga with horrible translation. Most of the ones I read are alright. 'Course, I can't read any Japanese characters, so I can't say if they're any accurate...
xrninja
Mar 22 2005, 01:51 AM
QUOTE(Falling_Man @ Mar 21 2005, 06:41 PM)
I realize that most manga publishers (especially Shonen Jump) tend to butcher good manga with horrible translation. Most of the ones I read are alright. 'Course, I can't read any Japanese characters, so I can't say if they're any accurate...
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they call ichigo "strawberry" every now and then. 'nuff said.
i just bought volume 16 and the lastest jump

[spoiler]damn it aizen, i hate you. i expected unohana-taichou to show up because i don't think kubo tite will kill of hitsugaya and hinamori, and if unohana-taichou sticks them in her manta ray thing's stomach, they'll probably heal a little and not die. unohana's also gotten very little screentime (paneltime?) so far.....as has tousen-taichou. so aizen got tousen-taichou to follow him with methods of convincing other than his hypnosis? but doesn't tousen have that peaceful worldview though and dislikes fighting and stuff? i expect someone, hopefully renji, will open his eyes (figuratively) and let him realize that he's probably being misled by aizen-no-longer-taichou. on another note, the sleeveless shinigami uniform is very sexy.[/spoiler]
Falling_Man
Apr 6 2005, 06:39 PM
How many volumes? Viz has only released 5. ;_; Don't tell me it's ungodly long like Naruto...
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