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Guest
wrong..people..eye colour
Al H.=Blue
Al E.=Gold/brown?
correct me if I'm wrong ^^;;
Chiyo
Arg, so much to confuse us...he is talking to Ed right? Or have they messed it round so we think he is but he actually is talking to his brother whom we havn't seen yet?

I give up
Guest
What's the point of debating over the Al E./Al H. thing again and again if no one will know until the movie comes out?

btw, does anyone else besides me think Ed's artificial arm's gonna turn back into his automail arm when it gave off those blue light in the beginning of the trailer? XP
Hagane no Renzy
I agree with Kirara. I'm guessing that Al E.'s and Al H.'s voices are going to be very similar, but that voice for a 17 year old!? Insanity!
Duo Himura
That would seem to be the most reasonable explanation, seeing as we don't even know if Al H. has a brother, much less one in a situation that would wind up with him saying something like that. Probably they are trying to mess with our heads. Or its symbolism. Or they just figured we'd figure it out.

And yeah, even Al's voice would have to change a little bit by that point...
Chiyo
Wait...

Has it been mentioned yet?

Who's the girl? She looks like Rose...

Agh, no, she can't be a love interest in this movie, they better not DARE.
Sycia
Nope we have no idea who's the girl yet.

But the magazines did mention that Ed is tried to avoid getting close to anyone of our world since he's an outsider...
Chiyo
Thank you Sycia, thats helps me a little.
lialiakicks
What would be really freaky (yet heart-wrenching) is if Ed met an alter of Trisha, his mother. OMG, I would burst into tears!!! ;____;
sushi-girl-27
QUOTE(lialiakicks @ Apr 6 2005, 12:21 PM)
What would be really freaky (yet heart-wrenching) is if Ed met an alter of Trisha, his mother. OMG, I would burst into tears!!! ;____;
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Totally. I tought about that a few days ago. It would be heart-breaking, but nice as well. Ooohhh drama... wink.gif
Guest_Brass2TheMax_*
You have all missed a vitally important point back a few pages... When you talked about Alphonse making the armour move to pretend it's himself. HE LOST EVERY MEMORY OF EVERYTHING AFTER THE NIGHT THEY TRIED TO REVIVE THEIR MOTHER. Meaning, he shouldn't remember waking up in the armour in the first place... Hence, the armour should mean nothing to him.

Don't know if this has already been pointed out, I skipped ahead a bit just when I saw that part.
Sycia
The people around Al could've told him you know...
Merc
Also, if Al didn't know anything, then how'd he know to "cosplay" as his brother? I mean, according to the trailer, you're looking at Al knowing how Ed dressed and acted, right down to the clapping alchemy. I'm sure someone filled him in at one time or another. After all, he went from Winry being about his age to being 4 years older, I know that would get me confused.

~merc
lialiakicks
*CONTAINS SPOILERS FOR EP. 51, SO ER... YEAH...*

Izumi Sensei most likely filled Al in on what happened during the past four years (although she herself doesn't know EVERY detail)... I mean, Al DID go to re-train with her at teh end of teh series... happy.gif;;;
shadowhound
I am currently in Japan and have visited Universal Studios Japan (located in Osaka) today. I thought it might be a good idea to tell people (if you don't know already) that there is a special "Tour Preview" of the movie, which I attended. They show you many different clips narrarated to tell the story so far in the anime. The "tour" part was walking aroung looking at these little sets to look like an alchemists table or an office of the renkinjutsushi. They even had such cool stuff as the white glove with the red alchemists seal on the back and the pocketwatch you recive when you become a national alchemist! It was truly amazing... too bad they didn't allow cameras. They were STRICT, believe me, I tried. They also showed a cool movie thing at the end, the Japanese was way too advanced for me to know, but I believe it was a tiny sequence that set up the movie. Then the real preview rolled right along the screen. That was it. No merchandise shop, no nothing. Not even a lousy pic. If any developments occure, I'll be sure to post.
the drifter
*sighs*

alphonse returned to his 10 year old body after ed tried to bring his entire body with him.alphonse also had no memories of him being in the armor so that is out of the question. because he didn't know that his brother was in the military their would be no way he would learn of his brothers tales from anyone one in the state(let alone know anyone) izumi would not likely tell al about the military part because she despises the military and would not want al to be a dog of the state.
as for the transmustaion circle on his hands think about it. he lost all memories of the gate and he saw izumie use the ability hundreds of time. but what i can't understand is why he doesn't just tatoo the arays on his hands like kimblee did.
also if you look at the image i posted below(i'll get to it in a second) al's clothing is not that similer to his brother. his shirt is botton up and eds was zipped. his pants are slacks as eds were either black thight jeans or lether. and his shoes are more on the dress up then eds who were battle or action boots. for those that said he was in the militray or that he was a state alchemist is wrong(look at the design)he has no silver watch.

for those that are wondering why ed is playing around with his arm need to know this. you have to understand that this is the 1920s for god sack. ams just don't run for ever. it is most likely that ed was in a battle in which his arm was ripped of so he need to charge his arm up via pulling the motor in order to re attach the lower base of his arm and that would cause the fake skin to melt.

for those who are wondering about the people in the military. roy has been bumbed down to corpral and his now been dispatch somewhere in th norrth while riza stays in centrel. armstrong is also said to have left the military and was opening a shop up in his hometown.

also i must show my dispointment in the site for not showing in new images from newtype magazine..
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Sycia
Gimme some time wil ya? All anime magazines were only released in Japan today and I kinda gotta translate everything... (which takes hours) >_<
Chiyo
Thank you Sycia, you put so much effort in for all of us biggrin.gif
the drifter
....sorry...
lialiakicks
Yay! More stuff gonna be translated!!! I LUV YOU SYCIA!!!!!!!!!!!!! =^^= *huggles*
lialiakicks
Yay! More stuff gonna be translated!!! I LUV YOU SYCIA!!!!!!!!!!!!! =^^= *huggles*
Guest_Matt_*
Ok i'm just throwing all this out there, just theories and things i noticed. When Dante & Hohenheim have the discussion of their past, notice how the person Dante uses to place Hohenheims soul in looks like Hans. Leaving me to believe that our world is the past of their world. Hohenheim is probably trying to find a way to return to his when things unfold to him meeting dante and all that.

it also appears that Al Elric knows somewhat of what happened in the series because he tells Winry he will find his brother. And he might have subconcieous memories, explaining his outfit.
lenita
Everithin is about Edo an Al, i love them but when we'll see more about the military?? where is R&R??? we don't know very much about that
gggggggrrrrrrrr wink.gif i'm so desesperated
ColdFire
Okay...I think Al just crossed the line when he decided to play dress-up. But I can't wait til the movie comes out! It's no surprise Ed's still short.
Sara
I cant wait!!! biggrin.gif
Morgri
I confused as crap... So who is fighting with the red in that trailer? Al?

And the one with the darker trench coat... Ed?

I'm confused sleep.gif

So how does Al duplicate the metal arm?

And if you look on the gloves he wears, Al has those little transmutations circles like Roy sleep.gif

Confused!
matthew durkin
i love the show
Guest
Can u give one of the pic for plz i love the show plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz biggrin.gif smile.gif cool.gif
me
whoa. ok so in the series when there are those fake elric brothers they say that they know the fakes are phonies bc they have bluu eyes and the elrics have gold hair and gold eyes. right?
but if later on in aroung the 30's <episode wise> you see them<the elrics> as children in training and al has [U]GREY[/U]
then in this trailer for the movie, al has BLUU EYES!!!!
omg!!!
will they make up their minds!!!!!
Hagane no Renzy
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Umm for your info me, That isn't Al Elric. *cough*
Full Plastic Alchemist
wow looks awsome, this thread is 9 pages rofl
sakii
QUOTE(Sycia @ Mar 27 2005, 11:43 PM)
QUOTE(armor-alchemist @ Mar 28 2005, 03:42 PM)
(argh, Alphonse Heiderich's voice.... *faints from horror*)
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XD I'm glad I wasn't the only one with that reaction
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amost right it's episode 23[heart of steal], then al e. starts to trust him again at the end of episode 24[bonding memmories]

*sry been watching episoes 23-25 alot since i figured out how to work the vcr recorder*
sakii
QUOTE(MasterKris @ Mar 29 2005, 07:02 PM)
I'm getting really confused here with all the post about al dressing up as ed. Can someone explain in simple words?? huh.gif

OFFICIAL MOVIE TRAILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spoiler] IT HAS ENVY AS A DRAGON!!!!!!!! Perhaps this could be the major point of the movie. [/spoiler]

WHERE IS ROY, RIZA AND WINRY???

I found out that Ed is in the time period of the Great Depression in Europe. Because with the dates, it is after WW1 but before WW2. Wait, since this is the Great Depression, it is when Hitler ruled Germany!!!!!!!!!  ph34r.gif

MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thankyou,but i dont remember, how old is ed now?
Jellybean
He's 18.
Digitalgirl
i think it's just a coincidence[?...i hate spelling...] that al is wearing clothes nearly like ed. [an extremly odd one at that]. Al's memories stop where they tried to transmute his mother and stuff. i read in a pic [i think i got it from this site....or not, i can't remember sleep.gif.] that al has...

'"He doesn't have his own memory, and even if he asks people about Ed, they don't tell him too much. But he knows that it's thanks to his brother that he exists now, and because of that, Ed has vanished; so he's thinking: Then...I will find him!" Taking the coat Ed left behind, he sets out on a journey in search of clues on how to find his brother. The reason he takes on attire so similar to Ed's may be because he is determined to find his brother and bring him back.'

[not that he would know what Ed dressed like unsure.gif ]

'"Not only has he lost all recollection of the travels he shared with Ed, but also the years he grew up so he wouldn't be able to think very far. But as soon as he finds any links, he'll be on his way regardless of how people try to sway him. That's going to make those who care for him pretty worried. "
However, that can also be seen as an honest struggle, brought from 2 years of simple, pure thought.

[ack, i'll wrote the parts im missing tommorrow to this, i have to go to bed.]
Guest
Heres what I think Al is posing as ed because there needs to be a full metal. And he animates the armor...In order to do so he gives up his arm. Since he cant do circleless transmutation he relies on the gloves. Ed is still in the other world and sumhow he's going to cross back.
Mr. Saturn
WOW. I must say this looks great.
I think the guy at the end clapping his hands and touching the armour Al looks more like the Hagaren world Ed to me. And when Al H. Says "I knew Big Brother was out there somewhere" That could well be Hagaren Al inside Al H. If you remember Ed had a counterpart which he was placed into the first time he crossed the gate. Maybe they go across the gate numerous times in the film? I want to know how the Thule Society (see Last episode Epilogue) and Nazi Party are going to fit in though, apparently Hitler had an interest in a place called Shambhala, I can't remember the details exactly but I remember seeing it somewhere. Ah, well thanks for the trailer, I cant wait to see the film now tongue.gif
Holly
QUOTE(Sycia @ Mar 27 2005, 11:43 PM)
QUOTE(armor-alchemist @ Mar 28 2005, 03:42 PM)
(argh, Alphonse Heiderich's voice.... *faints from horror*)
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XD I'm glad I wasn't the only one with that reaction
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I suppose I'm the only one that isn't freaking out over his voice?
Probably because one of my favorite actresses is playing him. Or so I'm pretty sure. I have a video of an interview of the people who are playing them, and Sawaii Miyuu, I'm pretty damn sure, is playing Al. Actually, at first I was like "...Wow, what the hell is this." but then I figured, since they do that all the time in anime with boys' voices (BEFORE the anime in question is dubbed), that hey.. it was pretty cool.

As for everything else, like the debate going on in here over what is what. I suggest we all simply sit back and wait for it to come out at all, watch it, and find out for ourselves. Let's not waste our precious brain cells on trying to figure out stuff ahead of time. Leave the answers to the movie.

Ah whatever, just my opinions on things.
pinako
aww i went to your link ut the movie didnt work T T nooo! i must watch! but from what i see your guys saying is that ed dies al cosplays as him to make people think he is ed but in this one link i dunno where i got it ive been to to manny link in to little time ne way in one link ed and al are hugging but al has no mark on the shoulder (al is in the armor) and no apron thing so is al realy the ed in that pic pretending to be happy to see al!? im sooo confused!? blink.gif
Digitalgirl
QUOTE(pinako @ May 27 2005, 09:26 PM)
aww i went to your link ut the movie didnt work T T nooo! i must watch! but from what i see your guys saying is that ed dies al cosplays as him to make people think he is ed but in this one link i dunno where i got it ive been to to manny link in to little time ne way in one link ed and al are hugging but al has no mark on the shoulder (al is in the armor) and no apron thing so is al realy the ed in that pic pretending to be happy to see al!? im sooo confused!? blink.gif
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..........you're confusing.
Ok, 1st off Ed is not dead. I'm pretty sure he almost died, but he's not dead right now. [Have you even seen the end of the show?] and 2nd, i know what pic you're talking about. I'm sure that it is Ed and Al in that pic, and they are hugging because they are happy to see each other...and it's been two years since they last saw each other...um...argh, you've got me confused too...*leaves*
Guest_Knives_*
AIIIEEEEEE!!!!! :3 Movie will be great!! biggrin.gif
Karamawari
The last episode was depressing... u.u but the movie will be almighty!
Sky dog
QUOTE(Yume @ Mar 29 2005, 05:05 AM)
Hmm..good point..Oh and I forgot  blink.gif , thanks for translating this Sycia  tongue.gif ! Come to think of it, Roze might appear .. u know, in one of the scenes, Ed was talking to a black haired lady?  unsure.gif  But just that Roze's hair is a little pink..
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YOU HAVE A POINT..... dry.gif IM GOING TO WATCH IT AGAIN AND SEE , SYCIA AND CUTEWITCH.... YOU HAVE MY GRADITUDE..... ALL HALE SYCIA AND CUTEWITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:lol:
J1nSan
that was straight up awesome, thanks!
Angie
*This may be a Paoiler for soem of you*

Um..I think I may have a theory in the Armor Al, Real Al thing. Well in this trailer

http://www.apple.com/jp/quicktime/trailers...mist_large.html


There are a whole bunch of armor suits and such. Well, maybe those are lifeless souls or an army due to that blonde lady. And I think Ed and Al get seperated again but I'm so really sure on it cause there's something near the end of thiis trailer and such. I have no translations in this trailer except for when Al speaks ( He speaks? Oh yes XD ) Which sounds kinda weird but he's saying big brother which means he's calling out to Ed as he is being dragged away by Colonel Mustang I think. Anyway just please watch the trailer for yourself ^^
Angie
*This may be a Paoiler for soem of you*

Um..I think I may have a theory in the Armor Al, Real Al thing. Well in this trailer


Trailer here

There are a whole bunch of armor suits and such. Well, maybe those are lifeless souls or an army due to that blonde lady. And I think Ed and Al get seperated again but I'm so really sure on it cause there's something near the end of thiis trailer and such. I have no translations in this trailer except for when Al speaks ( He speaks? Oh yes XD ) Which sounds kinda weird but he's saying big brother which means he's calling out to Ed as he is being dragged away by Colonel Mustang I think. Anyway just please watch the trailer for yourself ^^
Angie
Forgive me, made a typo and double ^^;;;

*SPOILER
Guest_Yume_*
Woah , cool trailer angie! Just that it's xtremely full of spoilers ^^;;..this post too btw..

I have a very bad feeling about this.. I think Ed decided to stay in our world blink.gif ..I mean, Al was shouting to him, and Ed said 'I have to protect this world' if I'm not mistaken (I don't know Jap..it just sounded like that unsure.gif ) and somehow, the whole gang arrived at our world?
Alphonse Alchemist
QUOTE(Guest_Yume_* @ Jun 27 2005, 05:40 PM)
Woah , cool trailer angie! Just that it's xtremely full of spoilers ^^;;..this post too btw..

I have a very bad feeling about this.. I think Ed decided to stay in our world  blink.gif ..I mean, Al was shouting to him, and Ed said 'I have to protect this world' if I'm not mistaken (I don't know Jap..it just sounded like that  unsure.gif ) and somehow, the whole gang arrived at our world?
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Great, they get seperated again? If your theory is true and all though
_Yume_
QUOTE(Alphonse Alchemist @ Jun 28 2005, 09:48 AM)
QUOTE(Guest_Yume_* @ Jun 27 2005, 05:40 PM)
Woah , cool trailer angie! Just that it's xtremely full of spoilers ^^;;..this post too btw..

I have a very bad feeling about this.. I think Ed decided to stay in our world  blink.gif ..I mean, Al was shouting to him, and Ed said 'I have to protect this world' if I'm not mistaken (I don't know Jap..it just sounded like that  unsure.gif ) and somehow, the whole gang arrived at our world?
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Great, they get seperated again? If your theory is true and all though
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I think it should be true =.= coz I heard him saying 'Kono sekai wa mamoru' or something like that, 'kono sekai' would mean this world, and 'mamoru' would mean protect unsure.gif ...

although, that's just what I think... dry.gif (now I wish someone who really knows Jap is here..)
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