Kasumi
Mar 13 2005, 05:45 PM
Aren't there already more evidence in the manga than the anime?
That's what I've noticed anyway... Maybe it has to do with the fact that I'm a manga!EdxWin fan instead of anime!EdxWin fan?
Guest
Mar 13 2005, 07:14 PM
QUOTE(Yukina_Raven @ Mar 13 2005, 09:54 AM)
QUOTE(Kasumi @ Mar 12 2005, 11:10 PM)
I wouldn't call that a "small" hint in chapter 45. Ed did look pretty upset there.
And there were hints on Winry's part too! When she came out of the room thinking of Ed's words.
[SPOILER]"That's right. He won't stay a child forever" which goes back to the "big back" comment in the previous chapter.

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Oh, wow! I totally forgot about that part. ^^; Yeah, she did mention that... and now I can finally understand that 'big back' comment. Woot!
So Yebyosh was the only translator to get that 'big back' meaning correct in Chp 44? He said it as "Ed's becoming more mature" or something...
Kasumi
Mar 13 2005, 08:36 PM
My intepretation of "big back" is referring to a man who shoulders a lot responsibilities. So in a way, yes, it does mean Ed has matured.
In the case of ch. 44, Winry suddenly realized how much older Ed has become. (from the boy she knew to the man she now knows.) How did Yebyosh phrase it exactly? I didn't get a chance to read his translated version...
Chiyo
Mar 14 2005, 04:36 AM
Yes there was always more, I had just never seen any of the manga to wttiness it for myself. Now I have...
Queen of the dammed
Mar 14 2005, 08:11 AM
I think it was like:
Winry: Woh, has his back gotten that big....
Or around the lines of that.....
I definately believe that there is evidence! (Too bad they can't animate this arc! It would have been soo cool!!!!!)
aNiMeAzNgUrLLH
Mar 14 2005, 05:06 PM
I am a hardcore EdWin fan. I am seriously obsessed with this pairing. And as much as I want them to end up together (which I really don't want them to end up. Why? It isn't really fun when people end up together because . . . all the fun goes away and I won't be able to support it anymore), I don't think they will end up together.
Chiyo
Mar 14 2005, 05:12 PM
Wow, loads of people I'm not used to seeing.
Don't we have enough Ed/Win pages by now. I'm all for Ed/Win don't get me wrong but geez.
And I think they will end up together. As I have said before they may not show them getting together but the movie may have a aconclusion that shows Ed settled with Winry. But thats just my opinion. I'm not going to go into any evidence as I have already many times.
aNiMeAzNgUrLLH
Mar 14 2005, 05:21 PM
Why do I support Edward and Winry?
Well, I'm those type of person who hates to be in romantic relationships in real life, but likes to be obsessed with relationships in animes.
I tend to support the main male and female characters. But not all the time (like in Tales of Symphonia, I support Lloyd and Sheena, but I don't support Lloyd and Colette at all. Colette isn't really cool, IMO).
But it also depends on how much I like the characters. And I really like Winry a lot (I like shoujo-ai, dislike shonen-ai, and that's where I take a liking to Winry. I'm not bisexual/a lesbian though

).
And, well, yeah. O_o
Chiyo
Mar 14 2005, 05:29 PM
The sad thing is, you don't grow out of it.
I think I only ever liked one overt relationship and that was Sakura and Li. Even in Tsubasa we know its there but not much has happened.
Well Shardy, looks like you got your wish. Some people have managed to string more then two words to explain why they like this pairing. Good to see I suppose, gives me faith that my language hasn't been completely battered and that there is clever people out there.
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 14 2005, 05:52 PM
I think this should be merged with the original EdXwin.
aNiMeAzNgUrLLH
Mar 14 2005, 05:56 PM
Are you insinuating that ninty nine point nine percent of the population are imbeciles?
Just joking.
Maybe people are just busy or something and they can't give a full explanation.
EDIT: It could be merged. It's just all about Ed and Winry, right?
aNiMeAzNgUrLLH
Mar 14 2005, 06:08 PM
Loads? I've been here before, but it's just I've been spending a lot more time on this other forum (just recently closed down due to some uh, problems?) so I'm wasting my life here (not really wasting).
And isn't the movie about . . . mainly about love/Al or something?
Chiyo
Mar 15 2005, 03:11 AM
The movie is about Ed trying to get home basically. There is obviously alot more to it than that.
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 15 2005, 05:22 AM
Too many Win/Ed topics we need to close or merge.
Chibi-Usa
Mar 15 2005, 06:06 AM
True
Chiyo
Mar 15 2005, 10:02 AM
I think this one needs closing, or merging, whatever mods suggest.
SweetJanie
Mar 15 2005, 02:13 PM
I ssoooooooooo loved this new chapter!! <3 *is hanyan*
I just loved the part were he admitted he was small!! XD
Say, do any of u know any good EdXWin pics?
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 15 2005, 02:14 PM
Yup reason why maybe I should report this.
Chiyo
Mar 15 2005, 03:03 PM
QUOTE(aNiMeAzNgUrLLH @ Mar 15 2005, 12:56 AM)
Maybe people are just busy or something and they can't give a full explanation.
EDIT: It could be merged. It's just all about Ed and Winry, right?
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Ah, but the whole point of this particular Ed/Win thread was to explain in detail
shardypsykoelf
Mar 15 2005, 03:57 PM
I saw that EdxWinry thread and it's turned into a bunch of useless spam (kinda like what Chiyo and I did to the EdWin haters thread....^^;;) The whole point of this thread was exactly like Chiyo had said; simply to critque this couple in detail.
Chiyo
Mar 15 2005, 04:22 PM
QUOTE(shardypsykoelf @ Mar 15 2005, 10:57 PM)
I saw that EdxWinry thread and it's turned into a bunch of useless spam (kinda like what Chiyo and I did to the EdWin haters thread....^^;;) The whole point of this thread was exactly like Chiyo had said; simply to critque this couple in detail.
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Ah, yes, we did didn't we? But we amused many people at the same time.
I believe I'm going to have to review my Ed/Win. Not to change my mind of course, but now I have to take into account what occurs in the manga. There is so much for me to go on there.
Guest
Mar 15 2005, 06:21 PM
QUOTE(Kasumi @ Mar 13 2005, 08:36 PM)
My intepretation of "big back" is referring to a
man who shoulders a lot responsibilities. So in a way, yes, it does mean Ed has matured.
In the case of ch. 44, Winry suddenly realized how much older Ed has become. (from the boy she knew to the man she now knows.) How did Yebyosh phrase it exactly? I didn't get a chance to read his translated version...
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I had to go dig it up but here it is. Yebyosh's scanlation for the mentioned part...
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 15 2005, 06:58 PM
Oh I see it makes more sense now well since Ed's short it makes up for it.
yukiroche
Mar 15 2005, 10:50 PM
Well, I support EdxArmony BECAUSE and here's the reason..... firstly, he has SOOOO much concern for her that he practically follows her around just to make sure she is safe. Secondly, he becomes a softy and actrally teaches her alchemy. Thirdly, he risks his LIFE to save her troughout the ENTIRE game. I mean seriously, he could of just left her alone and just tried to look for the professor himself. Fourthly, SHE was going to write WAY more than what was going to be said in that letter. In the end of that letter she said something like "I'd also like to say, oh it's getting too noisy in here i think I'll just stop here". oooooo damn she was probably going to say that she LOVES him. Fifthly, Roy said when he was giving te letter to Ed "Here, it's a LOVE letter from Armony". Sixthly, he cried soooo much for her after her death. Seventh, he STILL remembers her after her death that OTHER people remind him of her. 8th (don't know how to spell it), the entire time during the game it seems as if all the arguing was just "fun" and they were actrally flirting. Nineth, armony always calls his name first all the time. Tenth, she wanted Edward to protect her. Eleventh, I could think of more but my brain if fried like chicken. KFC! heh heh.
Le Monkey
Mar 16 2005, 04:41 AM
*Slaps yukiroche Repeadtedly*
*Slap* you *Slap* will *Slap* like, *Slap* no.. *Slap* love *Slap* win *slap* and *Slap* ed *Slap* pairing *Slap* or *Slap* I *Slap* will *Slap* hurt *Slap* you *Slap* Profusely *Slap* *Slap* *Slap*
Armory*Slap*must*Slap*die*Slap**Slap**Slap*
And I will continue to do so....
Chiyo
Mar 16 2005, 04:41 AM
Right, this isn't to critasize what you are saying, but you have come into my Ed/Win world and must pay the price.
Firstly: Of course he would, he may not seem it but Ed is a caring person for those who need caring for.
Secondly: So does Izumi for Ed and Al....she doesn't love them in that aspect.
Thirdly: He risks his life to save Winry from Barry the Chopper when he could have just told the military what was going on.
Fourthly: That would mean she likes him, not necessarily vice-versa.
Fifthly: Roy teases Ed, they all do when it comes to Winry (manga).
Sixthly: Well thank God he cried, he has emotions doesn't he? He cried for Nina too, and I don't even want to think of his reaction if he lost someone closer.
Seventh: As tends to happen when you have lost someone.
Eight: Its not like his fighting with Winry is malicious, it could easily be seen as flirting.
Ninth: If you mean when she's calling for help she calls him first, so does Winry when she calls for them.
Tenth: Because you would turn down the opportunity to be looked after?
Sorry, I wasn't trying to argue to cause a fight, I am merely pointing out that this is and Ed/Win topic and shall keep it as such by fighting back peoples suggestions of other relationships. Please forgive me
Le Monkey
Mar 16 2005, 04:46 AM
Yay.. Chiyo is back with full force!!
I see how all of those comprisons are correct...
Yukina_Raven
Mar 16 2005, 10:02 AM
Man, I wish I had read that first. Would've made a lot more sense. ^^; Thanks for the scan! Now I can squeal happily. XDv
Yukina_Raven
Mar 16 2005, 10:12 AM
*Claps for Chiyo's post*
shardypsykoelf
Mar 16 2005, 11:38 AM
I personally think Ed/Armony is cute, then again I'm biast to all redheads anyway (after all, I am one). XD Unfortunately, the most you can really get fanfic-wise is PWPs as they don't know each other very long. Is it possible for them to fall in love? Maybe...but Ed is too busy focusing on other issues, that he really doesn't have time to contemplate on such a complicated emotion. Now, there is no doubt that he cares for Armony, but as Chiyo said, Ed is a caring guy.
I'm not shooting your theory down or anything. Ed could love her, could not. It's all up to speculation. It's just that Ed is more likely to fall in love with Winry than with Armony.
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 16 2005, 02:15 PM
QUOTE(yukiroche @ Mar 15 2005, 10:50 PM)
Well, I support EdxArmony BECAUSE and here's the reason..... firstly, he has SOOOO much concern for her that he practically follows her around just to make sure she is safe. Secondly, he becomes a softy and actrally teaches her alchemy. Thirdly, he risks his LIFE to save her troughout the ENTIRE game. I mean seriously, he could of just left her alone and just tried to look for the professor himself. Fourthly, SHE was going to write WAY more than what was going to be said in that letter. In the end of that letter she said something like "I'd also like to say, oh it's getting too noisy in here i think I'll just stop here". oooooo damn she was probably going to say that she LOVES him. Fifthly, Roy said when he was giving te letter to Ed "Here, it's a LOVE letter from Armony". Sixthly, he cried soooo much for her after her death. Seventh, he STILL remembers her after her death that OTHER people remind him of her. 8th (don't know how to spell it), the entire time during the game it seems as if all the arguing was just "fun" and they were actrally flirting. Nineth, armony always calls his name first all the time. Tenth, she wanted Edward to protect her. Eleventh, I could think of more but my brain if fried like chicken. KFC! heh heh.

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Isn't this where you explain why you like Ed/Win not EdxArmony
Chiyo
Mar 16 2005, 02:42 PM
Its alright coffee, I think I got that point across
Tobu Ishi
Mar 17 2005, 09:47 AM
QUOTE(yukiroche @ Mar 15 2005, 09:50 PM)
Fourthly, SHE was going to write WAY more than what was going to be said in that letter. In the end of that letter she said something like "I'd also like to say, oh it's getting too noisy in here i think I'll just stop here". oooooo damn she was probably going to say that she LOVES him. Fifthly, Roy said when he was giving te letter to Ed "Here, it's a LOVE letter from Armony". 8th (don't know how to spell it), the entire time during the game it seems as if all the arguing was just "fun" and they were actrally flirting. Nineth, armony always calls his name first all the time. Tenth, she wanted Edward to protect her.
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These are all good evidence that Armony had a crush on Ed. They say nothing about what he felt.
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firstly, he has SOOOO much concern for her that he practically follows her around just to make sure she is safe. Secondly, he becomes a softy and actrally teaches her alchemy. Thirdly, he risks his LIFE to save her troughout the ENTIRE game. I mean seriously, he could of just left her alone and just tried to look for the professor himself. Sixthly, he cried soooo much for her after her death. Seventh, he STILL remembers her after her death that OTHER people remind him of her.
These are all good examples of Ed's tendency to care about others. He showed the same tender care for Nina, and I think if she had lived to be older and shown talent for alchemy, he and Al would have taught her alchemy too. Ed remembers and feels sorrow for all the deaths he encounters. He even wept for Greed, and Greed was a cruel homonculus who kidnapped his brother. I can see him being an "older brother" to Armony, but it just doesn't seem like he was attracted to her, or even knew her long enough to truly love her. Real love takes time, and that's what Winry's got on her side.
...well, along with a lot of other things. ^^
Chiyo
Mar 17 2005, 10:14 AM
See, that was exactly my point...thank-you Tobu
Its not that people can't support these couples, its just easy to beat back most arguements. Sadly yes that does include Ed/Win...but dammit I will stick by this couple no matter what people may say.
IronFlame
Mar 17 2005, 11:30 AM
I'm not obsessed that Ed and Win have to be a couple but it's a bit blatent they like each other more than friends that I want to actually see them as a couple
animefan101
Mar 17 2005, 11:54 AM
I have'nt seen enough to tell if Ed and Winry will ever have a relation ship or not.I will keep my eyes open though.
Chiyo
Mar 17 2005, 12:00 PM
Why do that? I could tell you all you need to know.
But that isn't hard evidence, mostly my opinion
Chiyo
Mar 17 2005, 12:13 PM
Right, here is my theory....
Before, they were discussing why Winry turned Ed down when they were little (notice how heartbroken he is

). She said its because he was small.
Now, as they are becoming adults, she notices he is growing. Once he is taller then her...she no longer has an excuse not to marry him.
I'm sorry...I'll go.
Atrius
Mar 17 2005, 12:57 PM
I think they should get together, but without tragedy, their would be no story, So they'll probably never be together.
Fresh_Coffee
Mar 17 2005, 03:50 PM
I think there is more evidence in the manga especially when Ed comforts her instead of just standing there like in the anime

.
Yukina_Raven
Mar 17 2005, 05:41 PM
QUOTE(Chiyo @ Mar 17 2005, 12:13 PM)
Right, here is my theory....
Before, they were discussing why Winry turned Ed down when they were little (notice how heartbroken he is

). She said its because he was small.
Now, as they are becoming adults, she notices he is growing. Once he is taller then her...she no longer has an excuse not to marry him.
I'm sorry...I'll go.

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Man, I really hope so. Although... how the hell could Winry not notice his sexiness (short or not) until now? If she doesn't merry him, I will! *Thwacked with a wrench* XD;
aNiMeAzNgUrLLH
Mar 17 2005, 05:56 PM
Wasn't there always more evidence in the manga than the anime? O_o
Yukina_Raven
Mar 17 2005, 05:59 PM
That there was.
sumflip
Mar 17 2005, 07:56 PM
QUOTE(Chiyo @ Mar 6 2005, 09:24 AM)
If it is, then where is my membership pack?

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( o.o) I want my membership pack too ^^ .
Can someone list some of the evidence the Manga gives please? I'd like to know hehe.
@Yukina_Raven: Lol I like your sig...if only we saw them do that in the anime/manga
Chiyo
Mar 18 2005, 04:53 AM
Well...I have some free time. I suppose I could go through each manga comic and find evidence. If anybody wants me to that is?
Chiyo
Mar 18 2005, 04:55 AM
Perhaps this is the point her hormones really kicked in
Kasumi
Mar 18 2005, 03:12 PM
Thanks Guest!

Hm... Looks like Yebyosh was the
only translator to have gotten it correct.
aNiMeAzNgUrLLH
Mar 18 2005, 04:29 PM
QUOTE(Chiyo @ Mar 18 2005, 03:53 AM)
Well...I have some free time. I suppose I could go through each manga comic and find evidence. If anybody wants me to that is?
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It'd be awesome if you can

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sumflip
Mar 19 2005, 12:03 AM
QUOTE(Chiyo @ Mar 18 2005, 03:53 AM)
Well...I have some free time. I suppose I could go through each manga comic and find evidence. If anybody wants me to that is?
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Only if it's on your free time, and not too much trouble ^^;;
Chiyo
Mar 19 2005, 03:19 AM
You're asking me if finding Ed/Win evidence is trouble...get out of my sight!

Joking, it would be an honour.
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