Hagaren_4ever
Apr 7 2010, 07:55 AM
^ LOL, MOST of us were.

But yeah, one of the reasons that I like FMA: Brotherhood more than FMA:CoS,
is Ed and Winry didn't end up together in CoS, and neither ANYBODY ELSE. I mean, there
wasn't even a real conclusion to Royai, for God's sake.

So, if we are NOT right, that will make me shocked and upset to say the least. I don't think Arakawa will do this to us a second time.
A Pierrot's Aria
Apr 7 2010, 11:33 AM
^Yeah, as much as I love CoS, the closure between EdxWin and RoyAi was kind of lacking. xD After Ed got his Automail changed by Winry, it was more or less "Kthanxbye!"
Mind you, the relationship between the two in the first anime was quite stale in general. xD It might have been because of that they never really gave it an EdxWin-y ending the first time round- the two never really seemed to reveal any sort of feeling towards each other in anime 1 and therefore having EdxWin in the movie would kind of come out of nowhere. xD
Winry Rockbell~
Apr 7 2010, 12:53 PM
^Just to give you a little background information, the BONES team for the first anime hated Winry, and the only reason they put her in was because Hiromu insisted it done. They were big EdRose fans, though.
A Pierrot's Aria
Apr 7 2010, 01:24 PM
^Uuum...Can't say I've ever heard that anywhere...Is that a joke? oO
Seems kind of unprofessional for an animation team to exclude a character because they dislike him/her.
Winry Rockbell~
Apr 7 2010, 01:29 PM
QUOTE (A Pierrot's Aria @ Apr 7 2010, 01:24 PM)

^Uuum...Can't say I've ever heard that anywhere...Is that a joke? oO
Seems kind of unprofessional for an animation team to exclude a character because they dislike him/her.
I've heard it lots around, the first anime thought Winry was unimportant enough to cut her out and simply replace her with another automail mechanic.
A Pierrot's Aria
Apr 7 2010, 01:32 PM
QUOTE (Winry Rockbell~ @ Apr 7 2010, 09:29 PM)

QUOTE (A Pierrot's Aria @ Apr 7 2010, 01:24 PM)

^Uuum...Can't say I've ever heard that anywhere...Is that a joke? oO
Seems kind of unprofessional for an animation team to exclude a character because they dislike him/her.
I've heard it lots around, the first anime thought Winry was unimportant enough to cut her out and simply replace her with another automail mechanic.
xD! That would have been a little counter-productive; if they thought her so unimportant there would have been no reason to replace her with an equally unimportant character.
essa
Apr 7 2010, 02:16 PM
They preferred Rose? Now that explains a lot! lol with noah's appearance and such.
I saw the audio commentary from COS with the voice actors of Ed, Al and Winry and they all kind of shipped EdWin. I laughed so hard at some of their comments, specially Megumi's!(Winry's voice) xD
Even though I hate the way the movie ends, I just can't help but remember Al's greatest question to Ed xD
And the fact that they wanted to replace the character... I couldn't agree more with A Pierrot's Aria
This just shows how reckless they were in the production of the first anime, I'm glad I got to know the manga! xD
Winry Rockbell~
Apr 7 2010, 04:07 PM
Yeah, it would be counter-productive XD. Ahhh well, at least Brotherhood freakin adores Edwin and puts it everywhere possible.
Disasterpiece
Apr 7 2010, 04:14 PM
Let's just hope we're right on the money for this =|
shanryelric
Apr 10 2010, 01:31 AM
MAN I AM SO AGGREEEE!! >:( i hate rose and noah in FMA1, damn for all former BONES staff!! how I hate rose and noah, also Armony and Sofie in the game, duh.
Kaori Ayanami
Apr 10 2010, 02:01 AM
QUOTE (Winry Rockbell~ @ Apr 7 2010, 12:53 PM)

Just to give you a little background information, the BONES team for the first anime hated Winry, and the only reason they put her in was because Hiromu insisted it done. They were big EdRose fans, though.
Give me some sources and I may believe you.
Some Ed and Winry scenes of the first anime did look a little like UST, specially on Winry's side. That's not exactly Winry-
hating, is it?
Errr... Maybe, just maybe, Ed will get back the limbs he lost but will have to use automail anyway. How does it sound to you?
After all, this battle against Father is dangerous, and that last blast of chapter 106 looks hideous enough to... you know, destroy parts of the body...
Chiyo
Apr 10 2010, 02:25 AM
Mmm I must admit that doesn't sound right to me, more like a fan trying to come up with an excuse that more EdxWin didn't happen. When the original anime was made, Winry hadn't taken the role in the manga we now know she has.
What I picture as an ending, perhaps in the anime but not the manga, is a little like the
Kids OVA. I think you may see blonde haired, blue/golden eyed children running around, but only see the torso of Mother and Father. In other words you'll know it's Edward and Winry but they aren't the focus of the scene. Possibly be that way for all characters in the epilogue, that they aren't the focus of the scene but you know it's them and it satisfies the viewer.
Winry Rockbell~
Apr 10 2010, 07:13 AM
QUOTE (Chiyo @ Apr 10 2010, 02:25 AM)

Mmm I must admit that doesn't sound right to me, more like a fan trying to come up with an excuse that more EdxWin didn't happen. When the original anime was made, Winry hadn't taken the role in the manga we now know she has.
What I picture as an ending, perhaps in the anime but not the manga, is a little like the
Kids OVA. I think you may see blonde haired, blue/golden eyed children running around, but only see the torso of Mother and Father. In other words you'll know it's Edward and Winry but they aren't the focus of the scene. Possibly be that way for all characters in the epilogue, that they aren't the focus of the scene but you know it's them and it satisfies the viewer.
I just hope that in the manga, there are no cliffhangers, or things that leave you wondering. I don't even know why so many people here want that. I want all the canon pairings confirmed, and all of the character's futures confirmed. I don't just want Ed and Al to walk to Winry's house and that would be the end. I would be PISSED if that happened. I am talking about an actual "I love you," confession from both of them here, or a wedding scene, or something that the Edwin haters cannot work their way around. I just want Edwin to be proved pure canon through and through by the end.
Disasterpiece
Apr 10 2010, 08:36 AM
QUOTE (Winry Rockbell~ @ Apr 10 2010, 08:13 AM)

QUOTE (Chiyo @ Apr 10 2010, 02:25 AM)

Mmm I must admit that doesn't sound right to me, more like a fan trying to come up with an excuse that more EdxWin didn't happen. When the original anime was made, Winry hadn't taken the role in the manga we now know she has.
What I picture as an ending, perhaps in the anime but not the manga, is a little like the
Kids OVA. I think you may see blonde haired, blue/golden eyed children running around, but only see the torso of Mother and Father. In other words you'll know it's Edward and Winry but they aren't the focus of the scene. Possibly be that way for all characters in the epilogue, that they aren't the focus of the scene but you know it's them and it satisfies the viewer.
I just hope that in the manga, there are no cliffhangers, or things that leave you wondering. I don't even know why so many people here want that. I want all the canon pairings confirmed, and all of the character's futures confirmed. I don't just want Ed and Al to walk to Winry's house and that would be the end. I would be PISSED if that happened. I am talking about an actual "I love you," confession from both of them here, or a wedding scene, or something that the Edwin haters cannot work their way around. I just want Edwin to be proved pure canon through and through by the end.
It will be proven in a subtle way, or in a way, as I've said, that allows us to use our imagination with what Arakawa finishes off the series with
Winry Rockbell~
Apr 10 2010, 09:34 AM
That's what I hope DOESN'T happen. I don't want to be left guessing, I want things to be confirmed. I want a nice, solid ending that can't be twisted and turned around by haters and stuff. I want Edwin to be confirmed as canon, I want it to be confirmed that they both love each other.
StormGoddess
Apr 10 2010, 10:04 AM
I doubt "I love you's" will be said in the end either. Arakawa will give us a good, satisfying ending. I'm sure of that. And even without Ed & Winry (and even Roy & Riza) confessing their feelings, it has been rubbed to our faces (and to haters' faces, too) that they cared about each other so much that any other pairing that separate them will only work in fanfiction
I'm not sure about Bones hating Winry, with how Motherland Ending gave so much Winry fanservice
And yeah, CoS ending is
Katya Martin
Apr 10 2010, 10:34 AM
-sticks fingers into ears and loudly explains how CoS and a fair chunk of the first anime never happened-
I don't think we'll get flat-out "I love you's," I think we'll get something else, simple, perhaps unsaid that confirms the relationship.
I don't really see why Rose needs hating; it's pretty clear that even if she did have a crush on Ed at first, it wasn't going to go anywhere (first anime weirdness aside). She was really kind of pitiful in the first anime, and I think she's decently strong and likable in the manga/Brotherhood... anyway. Going back to topic now. The end of the manga should have some good things in store.
Chiyo
Apr 10 2010, 11:01 AM
Well chapter 106 has revealed images that they used in the new Op of Brotherhood...so perhaps the EdxWin we see is a little closer to reality than people expected? Of course they wouldn't want to give too much away, but perhaps they assume we know Ed will live, it is whether or not he gets his limbs back we question.
I have a sneaking suspicion that "We'll be back, so bake us a pie" was Arakawa establishing Edward and Winry as a pairing. He is basically saying "I'm coming home to you" and she accepts that. Ed screaming I love you would simply be too out of character, but he so hated his Father for abandoning his Mother I doubt he would abandon Winry.
A Pierrot's Aria
Apr 10 2010, 11:12 AM
I agree with Winry Rockbell~ in that I'd hate for the ending to be left ridiculously ambiguous and we just have to guess the futures of the characters-- that would really annoy me. xD Although I don't think it completely necessary for Ed to shout "I love yous" to Winry as it would be out of character as Chiyo pointed out. (Although if it does happen I certainly wouldn't complain
) At the very least I'd like there to be some kind of confirmation that Ed and Winry have gotten together. : ) I agree that telling Winry to bake him as apple pie was Ed's way of saying he's coming back to her.
Disasterpiece
Apr 10 2010, 12:57 PM
We'll get an EdxWin ending >__>
Relax guys. We WILL know whether it is blatant EdxWin or EdxWin that is subtle and makes us go "wait a sec...

---->

"
A Pierrot's Aria
Apr 10 2010, 02:22 PM
^xD We're not saying that there will be no EdxWin at all in the ending; I don't believe most are worried about that. I just think some of us, including myself, would like it to be more blatant than subtle. : )
Kaori Ayanami
Apr 10 2010, 02:48 PM
Edwin and Royai are a given... Japanese style. Don't you forget that, as for relationships, manga and anime are NEVER blatant. It's subtle or nothing.
Stop suffering. Ed will survive. He'll come back to Winry. And there will be Edwin... as it has been for a looong time now.
Dearheart
Apr 10 2010, 03:33 PM
Not to interrupt the agonizing over how much EdWin love we'll get in the ending, but I just whipped together a poll about them and I'd love it if my fellow shippers would give it a glance.
Which aspect of Ed and Winry's relationship do you love best?There are so many different sides to their relationship and I know a lot of people love EdWin for different reasons, so I'm really curious to see what the results might be. Please vote! It will make me happy!
essa
Apr 10 2010, 03:35 PM
As long as there is a pie to eat and some earrings to return, there's no need to worry about ^^
Those two points and Arakawa's imagination will surely give something solid yet subtle.
edit: aah you placed so many options in that poll! they're all good! but I choose the journey, and if I had to choose three it would be the journey, support and chemistry ^^
Disasterpiece
Apr 10 2010, 03:48 PM
@Dearheart & Essa
I picked romance. The rest of them DO play into the EdWin factor, but I think in the end of it all, the inner feelings eventually surface. The journey, I believe goes hand in hand with this.
Chiyo
Apr 11 2010, 12:50 AM
Hmm I spy a photo of mine in that poll, it is also the one I chose.
essa - very well spotted, though they are both little things, they are unresolved matters between them. Ed didn't return her earrings when he could have done (we assume, he might have left them in her room somewhere). I also agree with Kaori, I think perhaps it's been established he'll go back to her...now is just to think how the reunion will happen or if we even see it.
A Pierrot's Aria
Apr 11 2010, 02:27 AM
Hey...No one was suffering or agonising...merely discussing...
You're right, Kaori, it most likely won't be blatant, but we can still dream.
That said, I don't expect "I love you" to be shouted from the rooftops...I'm only referring to them actually being confirmed as a couple, no matter how that is done. : )
But nice poll. : ) I voted for the angst; just because the following line made my "aaaaw." "Loves him when he can't love himself."
That's such a fantastically true list, I had a hard time choosing!
rzerox21xx
Apr 12 2010, 03:37 PM

geez another wedding pic by the brotherhood staff?
Disasterpiece
Apr 12 2010, 06:12 PM
okay now they are just teasing us
Brittdvorak
Apr 12 2010, 08:02 PM
QUOTE (rzerox21xx @ Apr 12 2010, 03:37 PM)


geez another wedding pic by the brotherhood staff?
is there a bigger version of this?
Disasterpiece
Apr 12 2010, 09:15 PM
I did some thinking...they're throwing us an awful lot of hints...seems a little too good to be true..
Now I fear Arakawa won't complete the canon..or I'm just paranoid
Hagaren_4ever
Apr 13 2010, 04:01 AM
It actually kinda ticks me off that they're throwing all this stuff in our face. FMA ISN'T A ROMANCE, DAMMIT! Sure when there's fluff it's a good aspect of the story, but seriously, with the games they're making it seem like some kind of fanservice anime! Ugh... wake me up when it's all over...
Kyelinn
Apr 13 2010, 06:40 AM
I highly doubt they'd be able to even throw the EdxWin stuff in our face without Arakawa's permission anyway considering they are her characters and it's her story. I highly doubt it's going to change if Arakawa canonizes it or not. She's thrown way too many hints herself.
That being said, I squeed over the wedding picture! And somebody said another one? Has there been another that's popped up!? If so, I MUST see!!!
Chiyo
Apr 13 2010, 11:40 AM
Kyelinn, I believe people are referring to an image posted earlier in this thread, but just
click here.
Winry Chi
Apr 13 2010, 03:57 PM
QUOTE (rzerox21xx @ Apr 12 2010, 04:37 PM)


geez another wedding pic by the brotherhood staff?
..need.. higher.. resolution... ;D; anyone happen to have one?
Kuji
Apr 15 2010, 08:01 PM
@Winry Chi: My copy of Gangan arrived in the mail today, and as I thought, that page is from the Hagaren stuff they have before the actual manga pages *phew*. Anyway, I scanned and cropped just the EdWin (& Riza) part, but yeah, hopefully it's hi-res enough for you
Click to view attachmentI'll quickly translate the text here:
Ed and Winry getting married!?
Hawkeye appearing like a nurse!?
Presenting the game's original story top secret developments!!
Nurse Hawkeye and Winry in a Wedding dress!? What in the world's happened!?
(on the pics: I wanna be cured by chuui.... :: They're finally getting married!?)
(under chuui's pic with the arrows): What kind of story is this!? Things are gonna get exciting from here!!
--
Just my 2 cents on EdWin (based from what I've skimmed over recent posts). As much as I love EdWin, I hope they (anime/game people) don't throw too much EdWin in our faces before the manga gets around to them. I regard Arakawa-sensei's work as absolute confirmation of EdWin/canon (of course), regardless of whether the anime/game writers have her permission or not (if you get what I'm saying). Any EdWin is good EdWin of course, but I kinda feel that too much thrown at us (whether it be in the anime and/or games) before Arakawa-sensei gets around to drawing out their conclusion herself, kinda takes some of the excitement away from seeing the actual mangaka's depiction of the two...I dunno, maybe I'm not making any sense...(maybe I need some breakfast

)
Anyway, I doubt anything bad would happen to hinder an EdWin ending. IMO. As we've seen, many hints have been given throughout the manga - also as someone else mentioned, there's still unresolved issues between Ed and Winry (earrings especially). I would say that Arakawa-sensei has gone on to leave out Winry's earrings for a reason (Winry is seen without earrings even in chapter 104). Then, we have the recent OP, which even though I won't totally believe 'til I see it in the manga, still hints at something like that possibly happening in the manga - also in the OP, in the end Winry is seen wearing her earrings...fufu. All in all, I don't think we have anything to worry about when it comes to Ed and Winry's fate(?) at the end of the manga/anime...
Pardon the rambling, that's all I have to say for now. :I
PS: to those who liked/thanked for the wedding pic - you're welcome

Edit: Oooh is that a blush I see forming on Ed's face? (in the pic) :3
LooneyLolita
Apr 20 2010, 02:23 PM
Hey! I'm new here. But I'm a old FMA and Ed/winry fan :3
I just wanted to share this video. I found it on Nicovideo.jp. Upload on my own Youtube acount.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJfyJob58CEPriceless XD
Havanese
Apr 20 2010, 04:35 PM
QUOTE (LooneyLolita @ Apr 20 2010, 04:23 PM)

Hey! I'm new here. But I'm a old FMA and Ed/winry fan :3
I just wanted to share this video. I found it on Nicovideo.jp. Upload on my own Youtube acount.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJfyJob58CEPriceless XD
Nice video! Made me chuckle.
rzerox21xx
Apr 23 2010, 09:03 AM
shanryelric
Apr 23 2010, 09:29 AM
OwO THANKS,
KUJI!! uwaaa so massive fanservice again,.. all hail edwin yeah!

and thanks too,
rzerox21xx for the clearer pic!
Kyelinn
Apr 25 2010, 08:08 PM
*insert Winry squeal here*
Thank you rzerox21xx!!! I've been wanting a clearer shot of that! x3 Have you guys watched the newest dubbed episode yet? I was just wondering how you thought Vic and Caitlin portrayed Ed and Winry during our first of dose of EdxWin scene?

I'm getting more and more anxious for the the dubbed version of THE episode. <3
Winry Rockbell~
Apr 29 2010, 03:00 PM
Wow! That picture is amazing! I kinda like how they made it all a white theme, it makes it seem more matched then if Ed had been wearing a black suit.
Hey, I got a question for everyone. Y'know Homunculus!Ed from BBI, Pride? Who here thinks that Pride!EdxWirny is pretty dang hot?
Winry Chi
Apr 30 2010, 02:44 PM
@Kuji Thank you for scanning it! ^^ was good enough res for me at the moment.
@rzerox21xx Thanks for the clear picture of it. Looks gorgeous!
@Winry Rockbell~ I think they are a rather cute pairing. I like the concept art of Ed as Pride.. it's been a long term dream of mine for BONES to randomly make an feature length animation and or 13 episode ova, for Bluebird's Illusion, just for giggles. (Since I know it was a fanmade game..) It would be so cool >w< but..sadly that probably won't happen.
Dearheart
Apr 30 2010, 03:51 PM
OMG THAT PICTURE XDDD Can you spell "fanservice overload"?

(I love Winry's dress; it's sooooo purdy...) <3
QUOTE
Have you guys watched the newest dubbed episode yet? I was just wondering how you thought Vic and Caitlin portrayed Ed and Winry during our first of dose of EdxWin scene? I'm getting more and more anxious for the the dubbed version of THE episode. <3
I thought they did pretty well (considering how crazy the humor is in that episode, lol. I'm glad Brotherhood toned it down eventually). I loved how gentle Ed's voice was during the scene when they talked about his watch...

I know both Vic and Caitlin are big supporters of EdWin, especially Vic, so I bet he's having a blast with all the new awesome Ed x Winry moments.

I CANNOT WAIT FOR EPISODE 22/23!!! I'm especially excited to hear Caitlin do that part. It's a very tough scene and one of the big defining moments for the couple; I really hope she nails it. And I already know Vic will sound awesome during that part. He's always been good with angsty scenes.

*loves Ed/EdWin angst for some reason* xD
Winry Rockbell~
May 1 2010, 08:03 AM
QUOTE (Winry Chi @ Apr 30 2010, 03:44 PM)

@Kuji Thank you for scanning it! ^^ was good enough res for me at the moment.
@rzerox21xx Thanks for the clear picture of it. Looks gorgeous!
@Winry Rockbell~ I think they are a rather cute pairing. I like the concept art of Ed as Pride.. it's been a long term dream of mine for BONES to randomly make an feature length animation and or 13 episode ova, for Bluebird's Illusion, just for giggles. (Since I know it was a fanmade game..) It would be so cool >w< but..sadly that probably won't happen.
Sad thing is, the makers of BBI were huge yaoi fans and probably were Winry haters as well, sicne Winry doesn't show up at any time during the game. I think her name is mentioned once. But it would be nice to see a BBI OVA kinda thing minus the yaoi and plus the canon.
Katya Martin
May 1 2010, 12:01 PM
I've not played BBI, but something strikes me as funny: in one of the endings of BBI, Ed becomes Pride. Now what did Pride just try to pull in the manga? ...Yeah.
LooneyLolita
May 2 2010, 01:26 PM
Happy EDWIN 503 day!!

Yes, it's today!!
Cece
May 2 2010, 03:35 PM
YES! Happy 503! Day EdWin friends!
Disasterpiece
May 3 2010, 05:32 PM
QUOTE (LooneyLolita @ May 2 2010, 02:26 PM)

Happy EDWIN 503 day!!

Yes, it's today!!

I do not have permission to access it, it says
qaghou
May 3 2010, 08:13 PM
I just thought about it. You know, when you were all talking about how fma will end with this relationship. I realize the reason why the writer put this love story in a story who is talking about the war, the sadness of losing everything in life and the meaning of the human beings.
My theory is that she wanted to let us see that we can create something really big and special by a little bit of courage and hope. Ed and Winry are this example. The two had a very difficult childhood but they grew putting their future on each other. This is an example of a small seed that is watered every day for it to become full-blown. Despite the storm, it will remain strong to become one of the most beautiful flowers. This is the case of the relationship of Ed and Winry. Their love is one of the most important part of FMA. It's like a main explication of the main story of it.
So, I really think that the writer will put a mention to it before the end of the serie. Also, this explain the reasons why the 5 opening put hints and why the fanservice of the PSgames of the serie did it too. FMA can't put those evidence in garbage. In the same time, I'm like the ones who can't wait to see how the writer will do the end of the story ! The wait is really hard !
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