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GaluxKitty
QUOTE(SsleepyAlly @ Oct 10 2005, 12:51 PM) [snapback]297965[/snapback]

(Just read GlauxKitty's mush fics..........)

o.O I am no longer innocent of the mind.........not that I was tongue.gif but that's a lot of mush. But you write really nice stories Galux, and (call me a tard if you want to) I didn't know everyone single word............I think I'm goanna learn them this year....>.> >.>;;;;;; ^^;;;;;;

Sis, I actually like the idea of Riza having an unique name and not like the other female characters.


LOL Thanks a lot. happy.gif XD That doesn't matter... I think I know more than most should.
Reika
QUOTE(SsleepyAlly @ Oct 10 2005, 04:51 AM) [snapback]297965[/snapback]

Sis, I actually like the idea of Riza having an unique name and not like the other female characters.


That's ok sis... but you can't say "It's riza" because of the dubbing ^^U...
Tsunade-chan
QUOTE(Reika @ Oct 9 2005, 01:35 AM) [snapback]297711[/snapback]

The reason why I can assure that Riza is "Liza" in english is because up untill now all FMA names have been english and the story's been pretty developed in England ambience. there's no "Riza" name in english that I know, but exists "Liza" and Elizabeth, and I doubt that in the manga Riza was called "Erizabeth" in chap +30, they wrote Erizabeth because the "L" doesn't exist, but her name is "Elizabeth" Aka "Liza", as well as Lina is Lina even if they write "Rina" and not "Reena". Why do we say that "Elisya" is "Elisya" when it's written like "Erishia"? The same.

Anyways I may be wrong, who knows, maybe tomorrow Arakawa says "no, it's not Liza, but Riza", but I would say that it's Liza for the reasons stated above.


Disclaimer: I have only watched FMA in Japanese, but I thought I'd throw my 2cents in.

I thought that in Japanese the have inbetweens, "L" and "R" don't really exist. In the Japanese language you only pronouce it as somewhere inbetween, so it's up to the translator on the spelling. A really good example of inbetweens is DBZ. "V" nor "B" doesn't really exist in the Japanese language, so when they translate Vegeta's name it can be spelled. Vegeta or Begeta. You can also get technical in saying the "G" and "J" can be switched, as well as "E" and "I", thus the translation of Vegeta's name gets even more complicated.

I'm going to stick to Riza because thats how the Fansubbers translated it.
Fullmetal Fangirl
Riza and the Military is FORSTORTTE!!! (some german word thats close to "doomed" i saw somewhere)

Sorry, weekend bit me by the ass and dragged me back to bed...what im trying to say is that I was sleeping for 2 days....sleeping beauty only not.

MANGA 52!!!!!

*dies on the inside*

Spoilers, deal with em:
Heres the poop...
Riza is now offically Fuhrers assistant....like...whoa...HOW COULD HE! that is NOT a way to get a lady! Get her as your assistant! come on people! Im guessing that the Fuhrer makes her his assistant then uses her as bait to get Roy...she'll be his assistant so maybe it'll be easy...dunn0...no idea, my brain is fried. FRIED! KAPUTT!

Anyway...*doesnt care for Ed while he leaps into the mouths of doom...literally*

@Tsunade-chan
Im guessing its Riza in dubbed...never seen dubbed, but yes...yes, i believe its R ...not L. In One Piece when they dubbed it, they called Zoro, Zolo...sounds the same, but if they made it Zoro...man...thats crap XD. I think Riza sounds better then Liza to be honest, Liza doesnt suit her...even though they're nearly the same!

(They made Generel Hakuro "Hakusho" which is a girls name XD stupid FUNimation!)

EDIT: So much fanart...makes me wanna...wanna...actually do something USEFUL with a pen...
GaluxKitty
QUOTE(Fullmetal Fangirl @ Oct 10 2005, 07:52 PM) [snapback]298066[/snapback]

MANGA 52!!!!!

*dies on the inside*

Spoilers, deal with em:
Heres the poop...
Riza is now offically Fuhrers assistant....like...whoa...HOW COULD HE! that is NOT a way to get a lady! Get her as your assistant! come on people! Im guessing that the Fuhrer makes her his assistant then uses her as bait to get Roy...she'll be his assistant so maybe it'll be easy...dunn0...no idea, my brain is fried. FRIED! KAPUTT!

Anyway...*doesnt care for Ed while he leaps into the mouths of doom...literally*




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Spoilers: As soon as I saw that, I freakin' KNEW that they were either going to use Riza to bait him into opening the Gate, or were going to try and get information out of her... however, they obviously realized she's the most important person to him, which is why they used her; I have a feeling they're pretty much sending Fuery, Breda and Farman off to die, or at least keep them out of the way for long enough that they can do what they need to do with Roy and Riza.

*ahem* I don't think Bradley "wants" her for that reason, seeing that he's a homunculus, and he has a family, and seeing that he obviously lacks the *ahem* right body parts to procreate... yeh. >_>;; If that was what you were implying, I doubt it. ^^;
Fullmetal Fangirl
Yes yes the whole "wanting her" was a joke...sorry ^^;;

but yeah...poor Fuery and Breda *is suddenly thinking of these two poor chaps* I wonder...
I totally agree with you though~!
GaluxKitty
QUOTE(Fullmetal Fangirl @ Oct 10 2005, 10:42 PM) [snapback]298086[/snapback]

Yes yes the whole "wanting her" was a joke...sorry ^^;;

but yeah...poor Fuery and Breda *is suddenly thinking of these two poor chaps* I wonder...
I totally agree with you though~!


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They're all in trouble now... sure, Riza and Roy are probably in the most trouble but I doubt that they'll let Farman, Breda and Fuery off, knowing what they know. But they obviously think Riza knows the most/will affect Roy the most, because they're keeping her with Bradley.

XD I should write a crackfic about that.

Bradley: Oh Lieutenant~! Do you think I'm hot? biggrin.gif
Riza: .... O_________________o
seventh_sky
Oh jeez, I really need to start reading the manga again....left off at around chapter 30 or so because I was too lazy XD

Fan_Alchemist
QUOTE(GaluxKitty @ Oct 10 2005, 07:19 PM) [snapback]298328[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fullmetal Fangirl @ Oct 10 2005, 10:42 PM) [snapback]298086[/snapback]

Yes yes the whole "wanting her" was a joke...sorry ^^;;

but yeah...poor Fuery and Breda *is suddenly thinking of these two poor chaps* I wonder...
I totally agree with you though~!


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They're all in trouble now... sure, Riza and Roy are probably in the most trouble but I doubt that they'll let Farman, Breda and Fuery off, knowing what they know. But they obviously think Riza knows the most/will affect Roy the most, because they're keeping her with Bradley.

XD I should write a crackfic about that.

Bradley: Oh Lieutenant~! Do you think I'm hot? biggrin.gif
Riza: .... O_________________o


Now that's something I would read, Why?

Because I'm a weirdo with a love for weird pairings. laugh.gif
Satsuka
Volume 12 cover!

IPB Image

OMG! *dies*
GaluxKitty
Oooooooooooh~

Ling and Lanfan! XD
Reika
[spoiler]I was like.... OMG ROYAINESS!!! When he was told about Riza, did you notice he didn't react 'till he was told she was going to be his assistant??? And she was so nervous to be separated from him... T^T

Look at it as a positive thing... because if they kill bradley soon enough... Riza will be one of those who will promote Roy for fuhrer, she's pretty close to that possition now... don't you think?[/spoiler]
Fullmetal Fangirl
QUOTE(GaluxKitty @ Oct 11 2005, 09:49 AM) [snapback]298328[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fullmetal Fangirl @ Oct 10 2005, 10:42 PM) [snapback]298086[/snapback]

Yes yes the whole "wanting her" was a joke...sorry ^^;;

but yeah...poor Fuery and Breda *is suddenly thinking of these two poor chaps* I wonder...
I totally agree with you though~!


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They're all in trouble now... sure, Riza and Roy are probably in the most trouble but I doubt that they'll let Farman, Breda and Fuery off, knowing what they know. But they obviously think Riza knows the most/will affect Roy the most, because they're keeping her with Bradley.

XD I should write a crackfic about that.

Bradley: Oh Lieutenant~! Do you think I'm hot? biggrin.gif
Riza: .... O_________________o



Omg...the crack! hahaha

Bradley: Hey babe...how bout you and me start workin' togethah?
Riza: Oo ...oh dear god...
Bradley: What's that supposed to mean...?
Riza: I have a pistol bitch...

Manga Volume 12s cover's so sexy! LanFan and Ling! and Winry of course with Eds arm sticking out XD

oh and I agree with Reika! totally!
GaluxKitty
Is it sad that I also fear for Buraha? ;_;

I know, Reika! Although they didn't actually show him until that point, and you're not actually sure if Bradley told him (although it would be very much like Bradley to do that), I think he can tell what's going on.
Fullmetal Fangirl
No its not sad that you fear for Baruha! I mean...I do tooooooooooooo! *tear*

True, Bradley may not have told him...but the face Roy made *points at Roy*
Fan_Alchemist
QUOTE(Fullmetal Fangirl @ Oct 11 2005, 05:06 AM) [snapback]298520[/snapback]

QUOTE(GaluxKitty @ Oct 11 2005, 09:49 AM) [snapback]298328[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fullmetal Fangirl @ Oct 10 2005, 10:42 PM) [snapback]298086[/snapback]

Yes yes the whole "wanting her" was a joke...sorry ^^;;

but yeah...poor Fuery and Breda *is suddenly thinking of these two poor chaps* I wonder...
I totally agree with you though~!


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They're all in trouble now... sure, Riza and Roy are probably in the most trouble but I doubt that they'll let Farman, Breda and Fuery off, knowing what they know. But they obviously think Riza knows the most/will affect Roy the most, because they're keeping her with Bradley.

XD I should write a crackfic about that.

Bradley: Oh Lieutenant~! Do you think I'm hot? biggrin.gif
Riza: .... O_________________o



Omg...the crack! hahaha

Bradley: Hey babe...how bout you and me start workin' togethah?
Riza: Oo ...oh dear god...
Bradley: What's that supposed to mean...?
Riza: I have a pistol bitch...

Manga Volume 12s cover's so sexy! LanFan and Ling! and Winry of course with Eds arm sticking out XD

oh and I agree with Reika! totally!

*dies from laughter*
Reika
huh... I know what they say and he reacts just after he tells him about Riza...
Full Metal Elf
Ahhh! I haven't read the Manga yet....I should get on that right away wink.gif. I LOVE Roy and Riza!!

[spoiler] They were sooooo cute together at the end of episode 51 *squeal*. Roy with his eye patch....yay! (although I do feel sorry for him too...wink.gif. [/spoiler]
Reika
Read the manga! It has a lot more royai than the anime!! ^-^
Full Metal Elf
happy.gif I'll jump on it then!! Although I have only been able to find the first three (which I still have to buy) where I live. Hmmmm...which editions are in English?
Reika
you can find them to read online in this page too ^^, but just 'till chap 40-41, you can find the rest on this other page:
http://groups.msn.com/FullMetalAlchemist/f...emistmanga.msnw
Full Metal Elf
o_O!!! Thanks!!! I'll start now!! wink.gif....since I finished the Anime, it's time for the Manga wink.gif. God...I'm obsessed!! lol happy.gif
Reika
welcome to the group ^^
Full Metal Elf
Hehehe....thanks for the welcome! ^^ smile.gif
AndroidLust
Must...restrain...myself...from...reading...spoilers. Must...wait...for...translated...version.
GaluxKitty
QUOTE(AndroidLust @ Oct 12 2005, 08:34 AM) [snapback]298738[/snapback]

Must...restrain...myself...from...reading...spoilers. Must...wait...for...translated...version.


Of chapter 52? It's up, isn't it?

EDIT: Yup, it's up at ?ZOMGFTA.

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User is: fmanga
Pass is: doritos


@ Fullmetal Fangirl: ;_; I worry so much for Buraha... what would happen to him if something happened to Riza
AndroidLust
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Of chapter 52? It's up, isn't it?

EDIT: Yup, it's up at ?ZOMGFTA.


I don`t use ZOMGFTA because of the stupid password thingy.

Edit: Oops, stupid me. The password is posted above. Thank you.
seventh_sky
Too much to do, I've really gotta read that manga!!!!!

Hey, Full Metal Elf, welcome to the thread!! ^^ Nice to meet more obsessed people XD
GaluxKitty
QUOTE(AndroidLust @ Oct 12 2005, 09:39 AM) [snapback]298764[/snapback]

Edit: Oops, stupid me. The password is posted above. Thank you.


XD No worries. Oh, and incidentally, I did a stupid ripoff of chapter 52 entitled, "Why Roy and Riza should never procreate except for Peter" (inside joke, long story)

Page One
Page Two
Page Three

*shot dead*
Electrastar
Well, I'm not gonna say anything to spoil anyone on chapter 52, but when I saw the spoilers in the chap 52 thread I was like : Holy **** DAMN YOU BRADLEYYYYY
GaluxKitty
Awww, come on everyone! Cheer up; if you know Roy and Riza you'll know that the stupid One-Eyed Monster won't keep them apart forever. happy.gif
Fullmetal Fangirl
Firstly...GaluxKitty, your siggie is love happy.gif

Now then, I really couldnt be stuffed doing into ZOMGTA or whatever it is, I just read a translation someone had done on LJ.
But omg, laughing my ass off at that crack!!

"Yes, bitch. Just wait till you see her in Labour"
"Now you'll know why I killed Selim!!!"

HAhahahah! *gets shot for laughing at the meaningless crack*
GaluxKitty
QUOTE(Fullmetal Fangirl @ Oct 12 2005, 05:20 PM) [snapback]298973[/snapback]

Firstly...GaluxKitty, your siggie is love happy.gif

"Yes, bitch. Just wait till you see her in Labour"
"Now you'll know why I killed Selim!!!"

HAhahahah! *gets shot for laughing at the meaningless crack*


Awwwwww, thank you! THEY R TEH NINJA.

I was extremely distraught from that chapter however I am trying to have a positive outlook...
Fullmetal Fangirl
QUOTE(GaluxKitty @ Oct 12 2005, 06:42 PM) [snapback]298981[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fullmetal Fangirl @ Oct 12 2005, 05:20 PM) [snapback]298973[/snapback]

Firstly...GaluxKitty, your siggie is love happy.gif

"Yes, bitch. Just wait till you see her in Labour"
"Now you'll know why I killed Selim!!!"

HAhahahah! *gets shot for laughing at the meaningless crack*


Awwwwww, thank you! THEY R TEH NINJA.

I was extremely distraught from that chapter however I am trying to have a positive outlook...


Ahahahah! Might try drawing something much like that...will post later. Hahaha... *doesnt know what the hell distraught means* .... *Year 7 is such a bludge* ANYWAY! Possitive outlooks are nice...>_> *wtf am I talking about?*
hagane_no_tokage
QUOTE(Reika @ Oct 9 2005, 04:35 AM) [snapback]297711[/snapback]
*snip*

Anyways I may be wrong, who knows, maybe tomorrow Arakawa says "no, it's not Liza, but Riza", but I would say that it's Liza for the reasons stated above.


actually...it IS Riza.

IPB Image
straight from the horse's [cow's?] mouth [pen?]. and that artbook has been out for a LOOOONG time, so the whole "Liza" argument is just pure laziness, IMHO.

i know this is old...i haven't been here for a while. u__u and i'm not trying to be an ass...but i HATE that the american companies change names around all the time when it is NOTED CANON that a name is [whatever], and they just happen to think [whateverwhatever] sounds better for people who speak english.

and like, havoc's name? is Jean. manga romaji canon. Jean. pronounced [Zhyahn]. like the french name? the katakana in the manga [ジャン] CLEARLY seconds this. i HATE that the dub made his name [Jeen]. Gene is a man's name pronounced that way. Jean pronounced that way is a female name. poor havoc, doesn't he have a hard enough time as it IS without being given a woman's name? is it SO difficult to pronounce a french name? come on, that's so LAZY!

</rant>
Fullmetal Fangirl
YES! Its now official...her names Riza...for those people...who...um...well, were just wondering...Spank you, Tokage, Spank you very much. ^^

Im just hanging around the forum, so im basicly posting one after another

But...Jean? As in Jeen? Whats the difference though? Im not against you or anything, I TOO hate it when americans do this, but yeah...do you pronounce it different or something? Jeen...hmm.....Jean....HMMMM!!!!
hagane_no_tokage
QUOTE(Fullmetal Fangirl @ Oct 12 2005, 05:50 AM) [snapback]298992[/snapback]

But...Jean? As in Jeen? Whats the difference though? Im not against you or anything, I TOO hate it when americans do this, but yeah...do you pronounce it different or something? Jeen...hmm.....Jean....HMMMM!!!!


Jean as a woman's name is pronounced [Jeen]. like you pronounce demin pants or the stuff in your DNA. Like the name Norma Jean, or 1920's/30's acrtress Jean Harlow. Jean as a MAN'S name is French, and pronounced [Zhyahn]. like Jean-Luc Picard or Jean Jacques Rousseau. a man's name CAN be pronounced as [Jeen], but then it's spelled differently. like Gene Hackman.

if his name was intended to be pronounced [Jeen] it should have been romanized as Gene and katakana'd as [ジーン]. Jean [ジャン • Zhyahn] Havoc is a man. Jean [Jeen] Havoc might have been his aunt or even his mother... but not him. ;p

and i know i'm being totally neurotic and anal, but Arakawasensei *clearly* intended his name to be spelled and pronounced in a certain way, and it really pisses me off when american licensing companies take liberties with art that is not theirs.
GaluxKitty
All I can say is... be glad DIC didn't dub it.

Really, there's not much we can do, unfortunately. Trust me; I despise Riza's English VA (that woman cannot voice-act her way out of a silent movie), but they aren't going to change coz a couple of fans bitch they don't like names, or pronounciations and such. It's the sad truth...

Anyone know how they pronounced Heymans? *interested to know what the ballsed up*
Reika
I don't mind if it's Riza or Liza, I personally like Riza better too, but people said "it's Riza because in the english dubbing they said "Riza"" and i was trying to prove that you can't take something valid because of a dubbing.

I HATE when they change names too, here you won't hear any japanese name pronounced propperly in any dubbing, and I just want to go and punch them when they say "It's difficult!", oh, COME ON, you pronounce the japanese "S" perfectly when you try to sound "upper-class twit". And forget about "tsunami" here's "Chunami", well, now they are starting to pronounce "sunami" all of a sudden, and then I went to one of my friend of the dubbing world and told him "DON'T DARE SAY CHUNAMI, it's "Tsunami"" and now he can pronounce it propperly, so where's the difficulty??? >.< lazy, they are all lazy.

Once they even made this friend say "chunami" because there was another one in the same documentary that said "chunami". So when someone says "it's like this because I heared it in the dubbing" I always try to clariffy why he/she shouldn't say that because most of the times they do as they please. And it's for your own good. And this happens in Spain, USA, UK, Itally, South America etc etc.
Fullmetal Fangirl
And the ranting BEGINS!!!

QUOTE(hagane_no_tokage @ Oct 12 2005, 08:40 PM) [snapback]298996[/snapback]

QUOTE(Fullmetal Fangirl @ Oct 12 2005, 05:50 AM) [snapback]298992[/snapback]

But...Jean? As in Jeen? Whats the difference though? Im not against you or anything, I TOO hate it when americans do this, but yeah...do you pronounce it different or something? Jeen...hmm.....Jean....HMMMM!!!!


Jean as a woman's name is pronounced [Jeen]. like you pronounce demin pants or the stuff in your DNA. Like the name Norma Jean, or 1920's/30's acrtress Jean Harlow. Jean as a MAN'S name is French, and pronounced [Zhyahn]. like Jean-Luc Picard or Jean Jacques Rousseau. a man's name CAN be pronounced as [Jeen], but then it's spelled differently. like Gene Hackman.

if his name was intended to be pronounced [Jeen] it should have been romanized as Gene and katakana'd as [ジーン]. Jean [ジャン Zhyahn] Havoc is a man. Jean [Jeen] Havoc might have been his aunt or even his mother... but not him. ;p

and i know i'm being totally neurotic and anal, but Arakawasensei *clearly* intended his name to be spelled and pronounced in a certain way, and it really pisses me off when american licensing companies take liberties with art that is not theirs.



Hahaha, I get your drift now...hahah, its ok.

But @Everyone

As Reika said, people (actually, mostly us) hate it when names are changed when dubbed....liek GaluxKitty said, thank god DIC didnt dub it. It wuold be crap if 4KIDS did it too, they always change the names of characters, especially Pokemon...e.g. Takeshi is a pokemon breeder....you know, the guy with squinty eyes and spikey brown hair? Well they changed his name to "Brock". Another one they change is...I think it was Kensuke or something comppicated, to "Ash Ketchum" Omgwtfbbq?!

You see, that REALLY annoys me...they change the names...this is what Im guessing...

"These Japanese names are simply too hard to pronounce by these children, therefore we better change them to something simple..." no matter how much the name doesnt even suit them...

And about people saying "Well, its true because it says in the dub" to me...the dubs arnt all THAT official...you dont just go with things because they're in the dub. FUNimation could of made a mistake (Hakuro > Hakusho! Dam thats retarded!) they made a mistake with general Hakuro's name, which really annoyed me, because now, everyone's going to think that IS his ACTUAL name...same with all other dubs...

[/rant]
[/offtopic]
EDIT: I havnt actually heard Riza's VA....Roys is shit, well, to me it is. Riza's VA is supposed to be the same person as Roze's VA.
Reika
Another thing that realy annoys me is that "it's for children"!!! >.< really, that annoys me more than the name changes! for pete's sake, FMA, dragon ball, naruto. envangelion, princess mononoke and a million more of anime AREN'T FOR CHILDREN! >.<
AndroidLust
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Another thing that realy annoys me is that "it's for children"!!! >.< really, that annoys me more than the name changes! for pete's sake, FMA, dragon ball, naruto. envangelion, princess mononoke and a million more of anime AREN'T FOR CHILDREN! >.<


This really annoys because this gives people who have never watched anime the idea that it is for little kids, so they don`t watch it.
Full Metal Elf
QUOTE(seventh_sky @ Oct 11 2005, 09:02 PM) [snapback]298823[/snapback]



Hey, Full Metal Elf, welcome to the thread!! ^^ Nice to meet more obsessed people XD


Thanks for the welcome!! Glad to be here smile.gif. It's fun to talk to other obsessed FMA fans wink.gif
Aog
Yeah, its kind of like a royai cult here, if you know what I mean.
Full Metal Elf
Hehehe happy.gif....it's fun though!! I'm in an FMA high right now...gotta watch it all the time! lol wink.gif
Aog
I recorded most of the eps so I can look a Riza all day long.
Full Metal Elf
Riza kicks major butt! I especially love ep 14 (at least I think it's ep 14) where she tells Roy off (he can't use his gloves in the rain, happy.gif).
Reika
yeah I think we all like that scene... XD
Fan_Alchemist
QUOTE(Aog @ Oct 12 2005, 02:59 PM) [snapback]299080[/snapback]

I recorded most of the eps so I can look a Riza all day long.

Obessed,. much? laugh.gif

Wish I had all the episodes.
Reika
I've been thinking... now that Riza's not chuui anymore... how will roy call her??? O.o we are not going to "hear" him saying "chuui" anymore??? O.o!
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