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Glam
OMG I just noticed something in the last chapter of the manga...

[spoiler]There was a explosion on the left side of the house...wasn't riza last shown on the left side of the house? =XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OMG PLEASE DON'T LET ME BE RIGHT!!!!!! TTTTT.TTTTTT [/spoiler]

T.T
NightMistress
ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif WHY COULDN'T YOU HAVE NOTICED THAT OUT THE DAY BEFORE CH. 49 COMES OUT!!!! NOW WE GOTTA WAIT A WHOLE MONTH:o ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif I hope hope HOPE you're wrong.
Tenri Kage
QUOTE(Glam @ Jun 12 2005, 08:48 PM)
OMG I just noticed something in the last chapter of the manga...

[spoiler]There was a explosion on the left side of the house...wasn't riza last shown on the left side of the house? =XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  OMG PLEASE DON'T LET ME BE RIGHT!!!!!! TTTTT.TTTTTT [/spoiler]

T.T
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T.T PLEASE LET RIZA BE ALRIGHT!!!!! *goes into a frantic frenzy of worry* Please don't let Cow-sensei kill her...
Queen of the dammed
ARRRG!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHE CANNOT DIE!!!!!! NEVER!!!!!!!!!! I'LL TRAVEL TO JAPAN AND MURDER ARAKAWA IS SHE DOES!!!!!!!
Fullmetal Fangirl
QUOTE(Tenri Kage @ Jun 13 2005, 03:14 PM)
QUOTE(Glam @ Jun 12 2005, 08:48 PM)
OMG I just noticed something in the last chapter of the manga...

[spoiler]There was a explosion on the left side of the house...wasn't riza last shown on the left side of the house? =XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  OMG PLEASE DON'T LET ME BE RIGHT!!!!!! TTTTT.TTTTTT [/spoiler]

T.T
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T.T PLEASE LET RIZA BE ALRIGHT!!!!! *goes into a frantic frenzy of worry* Please don't let Cow-sensei kill her...
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Oooh! Cookie! ok anyway,

spoiler (?)

This is what I think:

In 49, Riza, Ran Fan and Mr Doctor get hurt badly from the explosion. Roy and Ed descover what had just happen and Roy ignores Gluttony while running over to see if they're ok...while Ed well...he can just stand there *Ed thinks: "Get back here Taisa! You dare leave me to die here?!" Heh...Roy finds Riza and friends hurt and you, all the talking and stuff. Ed fights gluttony, with Ling too. Since Ling, i guess is still pissed. Fuhrer arrives with some MPs .... and other stuff happens, my head hurts so ill just stop now

Now THAT...was what I THINK or lets use a bigger word: PREDICT will happen!!


And wow, Queen of the dammed, LOL someone needs a chill pill! happy.gif

dont worry, ill help you with that if it DOES happen
Reika
QUOTE(Fullmetal Fangirl @ Jun 13 2005, 07:34 AM)
QUOTE(Tenri Kage @ Jun 13 2005, 03:14 PM)
QUOTE(Glam @ Jun 12 2005, 08:48 PM)
OMG I just noticed something in the last chapter of the manga...

[spoiler]There was a explosion on the left side of the house...wasn't riza last shown on the left side of the house? =XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX  OMG PLEASE DON'T LET ME BE RIGHT!!!!!! TTTTT.TTTTTT [/spoiler]

T.T
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T.T PLEASE LET RIZA BE ALRIGHT!!!!! *goes into a frantic frenzy of worry* Please don't let Cow-sensei kill her...
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Oooh! Cookie! ok anyway,

spoiler (?)

This is what I think:

In 49, Riza, Ran Fan and Mr Doctor get hurt badly from the explosion. Roy and Ed descover what had just happen and Roy ignores Gluttony while running over to see if they're ok...while Ed well...he can just stand there *Ed thinks: "Get back here Taisa! You dare leave me to die here?!" Heh...Roy finds Riza and friends hurt and you, all the talking and stuff. Ed fights gluttony, with Ling too. Since Ling, i guess is still pissed. Fuhrer arrives with some MPs .... and other stuff happens, my head hurts so ill just stop now

Now THAT...was what I THINK or lets use a bigger word: PREDICT will happen!!


And wow, Queen of the dammed, LOL someone needs a chill pill! happy.gif

dont worry, ill help you with that if it DOES happen
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Whoa whoa, hold on a minute. We can't kill her! She is Arakawa! JUST LET'S THREAT HER SO SHE WRITES MORE ROYAI AND MAKE ROY MAKE A PERFECT HUMAN TRANSMUTATION WITH NO SIDE CONSECUENCES AT ALL!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH XD

Anyways, I think he is in a prudent lengh to where she is. Anyways... there's a doctor there right????????!!
Fullmetal Fangirl
LOL, wow...anyway, yup, thats right, there IS a doctor...but still...hes cocky...he's bound to run away after seeing GLuttony...COWARD!

oh, and by the way...you double posted *points at Reikas second post*
Quistis88
Double-post deleted. smile.gif

If something happens to Riza . . . *mumbles things children should not hear*
Reika
Sorry for the double post ^^U my explorer decided to do things by its own ^^U
POTOPHREAK
*gasps* you must not kill sensei arakawa

maybe put a knife on her neck and shout, "GO TELL DA PRESS THAT CHAPTER WITH RIZA DEAD IS A JOKE AND DRAW A NEW ONE WITH A ROYAI MARRIAGE! OH AND MAKE SOMEONE PERFORM HUMAN TRANSMUTION AND BRING HUGHES BACK!!"
Reika
QUOTE(POTOPHREAK @ Jun 13 2005, 10:11 AM)
*gasps* you must not kill sensei arakawa

maybe put a knife on her neck and shout, "GO TELL DA PRESS THAT CHAPTER WITH RIZA DEAD IS A JOKE AND DRAW A NEW ONE WITH A ROYAI MARRIAGE!  OH AND MAKE SOMEONE PERFORM HUMAN TRANSMUTION AND BRING HUGHES BACK!!"
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Exactly!! I'm with you! *goes to buy a hugh knife in case it's needed*
First Lt Riza Hawkeye
I Really do not believe Hawkeye was on the side of that house at the time of the blast. Soldiers tend to move time to time.. several panels passed between when we saw her and when the blast happened. Besides.. she's gotta be around for roy and the incident at the end of the series.. right?
Merc
I highly doubt that Riza'd be taken out by that kind of exposion. No offense, but haven't we seen everyone else sit through stuff exploding by them and come out unscathed? Besides, she wouldn't take Riza out that easily. My money's riding on her getting Roy out of the way and firing on Gluttony to protect him.

[spoiler]I don't think Gluttony alone could kill her, he's tried to do it before and hasn't be successful. [/spoiler]
She could get injured, sure (and I bet she will) but I don't believe for a minute that something like that could kill her.

~Merc
Reika
QUOTE(Merc @ Jun 13 2005, 01:11 PM)
I highly doubt that Riza'd be taken out by that kind of exposion. No offense, but haven't we seen everyone else sit through stuff exploding by them and come out unscathed? Besides, she wouldn't take Riza out that easily. My money's riding on her getting Roy out of the way and firing on Gluttony to protect him.

[spoiler]I don't think Gluttony alone could kill her, he's tried to do it before and hasn't be successful. [/spoiler]
She could get injured, sure (and I bet she will) but I don't believe for a minute that something like that could kill her.

~Merc
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I agree with you, if something happens to riza is going to be for protecting Roy.
Azura Elric
T.T Riza can't die. Oi, the drama, I hate these kinds of cliffhangers

.......OMFG....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=5981608676

Another one of those "Imaginary friend " junk on Ebay. *screams* Now they're doing the Colonel!!! *dies* T.T When will the nightmare end!!
stella_mustang
I doubt that Riza will be killed off as easily as that
Yes, she could get injured, certainly, but not die
She probably isn't easy to kill
majic_lights
I hope Riza wouldn't die! Like many of you have already said she probably just got injured. And hopefully Bradley isn't coming up with some evil plot to use Riza in any way.
BellatrixAngelofKyo
QUOTE(Azura Elric @ Jun 13 2005, 10:51 AM)
T.T Riza can't die. Oi, the drama, I hate these kinds of cliffhangers

.......OMFG....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=5981608676

Another one of those "Imaginary friend " junk on Ebay. *screams* Now they're doing the Colonel!!! *dies* T.T When will the nightmare end!!
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Another one? huh.gif What is wrong with people? I can't believe ebay is allowing this to go on, especially since it is technically a copy right violation, is it not? what some people will do to make money never ceases to amaze and frighten me.

My goodness... all of you are such prolific posters (and that's a good thing). I've missed a great deal in the short time I was gone... okay in an attempt to catch up:

To stella_mustang and majic_lights: I agree. It was dreadfull when Hughes died, but to lose Riza as well would be beyond describing. I sincerely hope nothing really bad happens to her. Injurys I can see, but death? god, I hope not. And now we have to wait another month before we know what the outcome of that explosion was... *sigh* it's going to be one long wait.
Edo-mame
Instead of worrying about Gluttony/the explosion harming Riza, I'm more worried that Wrath is up to something. Now he has 2 easy targets to threaten Edo, Al and Roy with and it doesn't look like he will pass those opportunities up if the need arises.
POTOPHREAK
QUOTE(Azura Elric @ Jun 13 2005, 07:51 AM)
T.T Riza can't die. Oi, the drama, I hate these kinds of cliffhangers

.......OMFG....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=5981608676

Another one of those "Imaginary friend " junk on Ebay. *screams* Now they're doing the Colonel!!! *dies* T.T When will the nightmare end!!
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WTF??? ECK!!

Maybe the Roy fangirls are a little smarter... no bids. Reasonable, the cosplay is simply... ew
ling*
OMG NOT AGAIN ph34r.gif
And there's 1 bid now!
That cosplay's much worse than the Riza one......AHhhh!!!
I can't catch up with you guys about what happened to Riza in the latest manga chapter.
I want to see the manga but I don't have it mellow.gif *feel left out XD*
POTOPHREAK
QUOTE(ling* @ Jun 13 2005, 10:16 PM)
OMG NOT AGAIN ph34r.gif
And there's 1 bid now!
That cosplay's much worse than the Riza one......AHhhh!!!
I can't catch up with you guys about what happened to Riza in the latest manga chapter.
I want to see the manga but I don't have it mellow.gif *feel left out XD*
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Whoops, I didn't add spoiler tags to some of my posts... anyways, chapter 48<-- no need to download:

http://groups.msn.com/FullMetalAlchemist/c...to&PhotoID=7548
AoiSora
[spoiler] No offence to any Hughes fans but he had to die to make the story advance. There is nothing that Hawkeye's death right here and right now will do for the story. So she is safe... for at least another month....Awakawa-sensei would not do something for nothing.... [/spoiler]
Merc
I agree with you AoiSora. Now's not the time.

~Merc
Azura Elric
Let's hope Awakawa perfered the "not dying" option. -.-
Electrastar
She's safe.
I'm a 100% confident Riza will not die in the explosion. She might be harmed because I'm pretty sure she was on that side of the house when Gluttony got pissed off, but she's survived war and putting up with Roy ( tongue.gif ) so I'm pretty sure she'll be ok.....but imagine how pissed Roy would be seeing her hurt in that explosion.....he would go after Glutonny with a vengeance and seeing him take out two homononculus (because so far, in the manga, Ed didn't take out one) would be a great plus for me as a Roy Mustang fangirl.
Mustang's Apprentice
I'm pretty sure she won't die, at least I hope not.

But I have a weird sensation in the back of my head that keeps telling me that Roy will get killed off.

Oh well, that's just me.
majic_lights
QUOTE(Mustang's Apprentice @ Jun 16 2005, 10:44 AM)
I'm pretty sure she won't die, at least I hope not.

But I have a weird sensation in the back of my head that keeps telling me that Roy will get killed off.

Oh well, that's just me.
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I hope Roy wouldn't be killed off! But i doubt he will.
Chibi Viki
erm...

[spoiler] no worries about riza dying from that explosion. she's standing watch at the front door near the woods, the explosion was at the back of the house in the open area. suarding the entrance would be her main concern so i doubt if she went around the house. the most vulnerable part of a fortress is always the entrance.

plus, knowing arakawa-sensei, she wouldn't just kill anyone like that. heck, even that extra guy in volume 3 had to be killed by someone like scar and not just by anything. besides, she's a great story teller -- it'll be anti-climactic if she killed someone with something as trivial as an explosion. [/spoiler]

like aoisora, i'm not worried that arakawa-sensei would kill any of our heroes so, well, uselessly. besides, i don't think she'd kill anyone w/o a purpose.
majic_lights
Yeah, that's true.
Reika
QUOTE(AoiSora @ Jun 15 2005, 06:35 AM)
[spoiler] No offence to any Hughes fans but he had to die to make the story advance. There is nothing that Hawkeye's death right here and right now will do for the story.  So she is safe... for at least another month....Awakawa-sensei would not do something for nothing.... [/spoiler]
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Sorry to tell this but... Riza's death would apport too much to the manga, Roy could try to find a way to take her back and OPEN THE DOOR <--- Remember, the fuhrer says that he'll make Roy open the door.

That's why I'm scared, and the fuhrer has an eye on her.
Merc
There's no way Arakawa-sensei would take her out this early in the series. It still has a couple years left, and it wouldn't make sense to let Riza's character go at this point of the story. There's no logical reasoning behind it and it would more or less temporarily stall the plot.

~Merc
animelov3r
I'm new here and I just wanted to say, I'm so glad that there are others like me that think Roy and Riza should be together. XD
Tenri Kage
Hey animelov3r! Welcome to the forum! (I'm new too so...) Roy and Riza make such a good couple...

By the way, does anyone know where I can find scans of the manga past chapter 40? I haven't been able to read past that point because there's nothing past that on the manga viewer...
Edo-mame
Gluttony is now out of control now so either he dies or the heros die (noooo). I really doubt that it's the latter but if he were to die, he would have to be fed rats, insects and other crap I don't remember because the Homunculus in the manga die according to how their sins are killed in Dante's(not the FMA on of course) The Divine Comedy(I think this is what I read but it might not have anything got do with it, I have no idea what The Divine Comedy is about).

Lust [spoiler]had to be burned by fire[/spoiler] which already happened,
Greed [spoiler]had to be boiled in oil[/spoiler] and that also happened,
Which leads me to believe that Gluttony also has to be killed the way his sin is supposed to be.

Roy, obviously isn't carrying rats or anything not good to eat like that so I doubt he will be the one to kill Gluttony. (he had his turn, I don't want him to get hurt again, though that part was so cool in the manga when he came back all burnt)
POTOPHREAK
According to this site:

http://deadlysins.com/sins/history.html


Pride broken on the wheel
Envy put in freezing water
Anger dismembered alive
Sloth thrown in snake pits
Greed put in cauldrons of boiling oil
Gluttony forced to eat rats, toads, and snakes
Lust smothered in fire and brimstone

So... they will need some rats and toads and snakes to kill Gluttony??
Edo-mame
I guess so, I hope it happens like that because thay would mean Arakawa-sensei did her homework smile.gif I wonder how it will work out?
Merc
QUOTE
By the way, does anyone know where I can find scans of the manga past chapter 40? I haven't been able to read past that point because there's nothing past that on the manga viewer...

Check the manga section of this MB.

~Merc
BellatrixAngelofKyo
QUOTE(Edo-mame @ Jun 16 2005, 10:28 PM)
Gluttony is now out of control now so either he dies or the heros die (noooo). I really doubt that it's the latter but if he were to die, he would have to be fed rats, insects and other crap I don't remember because the Homunculus in the manga die according to how their sins are killed in Dante's(not the FMA on of course) The Divine Comedy(I think this is what I read but it might not have anything got do with it, I have no idea what The Divine Comedy is about).

Lust [spoiler]had to be burned by fire[/spoiler] which already happened,
Greed [spoiler]had to be boiled in oil[/spoiler] and that also happened,
Which leads me to believe that Gluttony also has to be killed the way his sin is supposed to be.

Roy, obviously isn't carrying rats or anything not good to eat like that so I doubt he will be the one to kill Gluttony. (he had his turn, I don't want him to get hurt again, though that part was so cool in the manga when he came back all burnt)
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That's a very interesting point, Edo-mame. I had not thought about it from that angle. I think you may have some thing there... If you are correct, it will be very interesting indeed to see how they get rid of the homunculi in the manga.

After re-reading Ch 48 of the manga a second time, I really don't think Riza was harmed by the explosion, however, I have a feeling she may end up seriously injured - hopefully not worse - before the end of the manga. I am also concerned about Winry as well. Bradley has his "all seeing eye" on her with out a doubt. Especially after that little conversation over tea that he had with her.
stella_mustang
QUOTE(POTOPHREAK @ Jun 17 2005, 03:36 AM)
According to this site:

http://deadlysins.com/sins/history.html


Pride broken on the wheel
Envy put in freezing water
Anger dismembered alive
Sloth thrown in snake pits
Greed put in cauldrons of boiling oil
Gluttony forced to eat rats, toads, and snakes
Lust smothered in fire and brimstone

So... they will need some rats and toads and snakes to kill Gluttony??
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Nice to know that Wrath has to be dimembered alive...
How are they going to get Gluttony to rats, toads and snakes. I wonder?
Glam
O.o when they mean prode broken on the wheel, what do they mean?
Mustang's Apprentice
Maybe that means throwing Pride into a moving wheel which cuts him to shreds??
Edo-mame
Broken on the wheel, I heard someone who looked it up say that it was tying Pride onto a wheel and just beating him or something. Not actually running himover with a car but I think that it would be easy to just run him over, it's not as weird as how it's supposed to be done. Thing is we won't see that for a long time, we don't even know what Pride looks like.

Also, Ling already fed Gluttony a bomb and he didn't die so I don't get how feeding him rats and toads can kill him, he eats chimeras... maybe they make him eat something thats alchemized or feed him bombs till he runs out/loses his nucleus. But to think, all this time they were shooting him, bombing him, and cutting him when they only had to make him eat rats and toads.
Fullmetal Fangirl
Waaah~! 3 days without interent is, to me, suicide!!! *chokes*

ANYWAY...where are we...oh yeah! i couldnt be stuffed withy the spoiler tag *sighs*

I reckon Gluttony's gonna die, by Ling probably (does that make sense?) and Chibi Vikis right, she WAS around the back area, and even if the explosion WAS there, she wouldnt just DIE just like that...i mean, cmon, man!

ok, so...now, why are we talking about a wheel and Pride?!
ling*
Fullmetal Fangirl laugh.gif Haven't seen you for AGES^^"

Never see it that way, Edo-mame tongue.gif
And broken on the wheel........what does that means? ><
Chibi Viki
actually, i searched the net for more info on the 7 deadly sins a few days ago and found this:

wikipedia

and read this part:

From there, Virgil guides Dante Pilgrim through the seven terraces of Purgatory. These correspond to the seven deadly sins, each terrace causing the purging of a particular sin in an appropriate manner:

Terrace 1: Pride, by carrying a heavy weight tied around the neck that disables the wearer from standing up straight (Cantos 10 through 12).
Terrace 2: Envy, by having one's eyes sewn shut, and wearing clothing that makes the soul indistinguishable from the ground (Cantos 13 through 15).
Terrace 3: Wrath, by walking around in acrid smoke (Cantos 15 through 17).
Terrace 4: Sloth, by continually running (Cantos 18 and 19).

The Avaricious by Jennifer Strange"Inspired by Dante" (http://inspiredbydante.home.att.net)Terrace 5: Avarice, by lying face-down on the ground (Cantos 19 through 21).
Terrace 6: Gluttony, by abstaining from any food or drink (Cantos 22 through 24).
Terrace 7: Lust, by burning in an immense wall of flames (Cantos 25 through 27).

now, i'm confused since this isn't what we read earlier. according to the site, this is from the Divine Comedy, Purgatory (Divine comedy has 3 parts: Inferno, Purgatorio and Paradiso).
ling*
After seeing Chibi Viki's post, I did some searching myself and found things SIMILAR to what Chibi Viki had posted. But what happened in the manga seems to be following to what POTOPHREAK had posted. ( I mean this--- Pride broken on the wheel. Envy put in freezing water. Anger dismembered alive. Sloth thrown in snake pits. Greed put in cauldrons of boiling oil. Gluttony forced to eat rats, toads, and snakes. Lust smothered in fire and brimstone.)

AHhhh so which version's correct huh.gif *confused*
Glam
Oh...I just remembered something...anime pride = manga wrath >.<
Wow...the manga is deeper than I thought it would be...and it was pretty deep XP
Preypacer
Wow! I finally got through all the pages of this thread! *whew* Long, but good reading! happy.gif

Personally, I love how subtle the Royai interaction is. happy.gif They are both professional adults, so no really lovey dovey stuff or big profound public statements, but you can see though their actions for and with each other that they certainly care for each other. wub.gif

About the deaths of the sins, most info I have found so far is what the Seven Sins are and how they came about. But I did find a website that mentions about how we are (so far) seeing how the sins die in the manga. A Brief History of Sin

I thought the info was interesting, but here is the part that relates to what we were talking about:

Sin ------ Punishment in Hell ----------------------- Animal --- Color

Pride ----- broken on the wheel ----------------------- Horse --- Violet
Envy ----- put in freezing water ----------------------- Dog ----- Green
Anger ---- dismembered alive ------------------------- Bear ----- Red
Sloth ----- thrown in snake pits ------------------------ Goat ---- Light Blue
Greed ---- put in cauldrons of boiling oil ------------- Frog ---- Yellow
Gluttony - forced to eat rats, toads, and snakes ------ Pig ------ Orange
Lust ------- smothered in fire and brimstone ---------- Cow ---- Blue

The author of the webpage cites The Picture Book of Devils, Demons and Witchcraft, by Ernst and Johanna Lehner for this info. So past this point I'm not sure where this set of punishments comes from.

Yeah, I can see it being a little strange to kill Gluttony with rats and things, but what about Wrath? I thought that it was interesting that he arms himself with swords and is an excellent swordsman anyways. So do you think he maybe protecting himself with his weakness, so to speak?
Tenri Kage
The whole sins dying thing is really interesting, but things like Gluttony eating toads and rats and snakes...I find that a little more difficult to imagine than the deaths of the others. I wonder...are there any Royai doujinshi out in the wide world? I haven't actually managed to find any in my search of FMA fanstuff...though I did come across a blog of cosplay stuff....like Roy's gloves...*hearts in eyes*

And could someone explain the whole family thing that some people here have? I want a family too...
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