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Kale Mustang
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Apr 27 2010, 08:58 AM) *
Kale--I must say that I find it amusing that you of all the people on here didn't catch the booty shot in 54 the first time. tongue.gif Seriously, though, it's not like Arakawa's trying to hide Riza's curves at all. I swear, every chance she gets... (And as a girl, I'm forever sighing about why I can't look like that. I mean, I know she's really physically active compared to me, but there's also just plain differences in body types... and this is going OT, so I'll stop there.)


Between Keyhole's lagginess on Saturday night/Sunday morning and then fighting with the playback of the file on my netbook for Ecrisp's sub, I think I have a somewhat valid excuse to not notice it. wink.gif
FailToImpress
QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Apr 27 2010, 05:08 PM) *
Probably wouldn't sleep with her either. He's not like that.


What man isn't like that? ohmy.gif lol I refuse to believe that he's not interested in sleeping with any of the women he might go on dates with. Men and their needs, right? I'm not saying he'd sleep with any woman, but honestly, if he can get it he'll take it and still be a gentleman about it.

Yes, he may have those kind of 'cover up' dates to gain information, but it's perfectly reasonable for him to date normally too... for a bit of companionship that he can't get with Riza. It's maybe not a regular thing, but I'm sure he'd have a little time for it. That said, I don't think his womanising is as much as people perceive. I'm sure a lot of it is just part of the image. An image most men would love to have, mind you.
rinoaebastel
Lol this conversation from where it comes? lol
now I thinking that I must have put the pic of Riza "catching her guns" for someones enjoyment x) (well i can still put it if it's wanted)

by the way in that proof pic of not bra thing that StormGoddess left I couldn't stop thinking that She is wearing one of roy's shirts XD
amestris_star
QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Apr 27 2010, 06:10 PM) *
Between Keyhole's lagginess on Saturday night/Sunday morning and then fighting with the playback of the file on my netbook for Ecrisp's sub, I think I have a somewhat valid excuse to not notice it. wink.gif


I made him realise there was the shot tongue.gif
ramencat
This conversation... I don't even know where to start. Not much I can say about bras, exept that I would... aprecciate... it if Riza didn't wear one *gets shot*. And honestly, I dought Roy sleeps around, he has discipline... probably. Also, this is a shonen manga; sex doesn't exist, remember? tongue.gif

btw, a while ago, I said I would try to translate the Roy and Riza parts of the character guide. But, I, well, overestimated my Japanes skills, to say the least. I can't translate anything more elaborate than a simple sentance. So, no translation. Really sorry.
jacksparrow589
Kale--Get a better computer! tongue.gif Royai's too subtle to be noticed when your computer has issues!

ramencat--Gotta love the shonen double-standard of well-endowed women and no sex! (And you would not appreciate your other statement for long. Somone said it earlier--one word: gravity.)
ramencat
Darn that gravity... ruining my dreams. lol
Kale Mustang
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Apr 27 2010, 11:11 AM) *
Kale--Get a better computer! tongue.gif Royai's too subtle to be noticed when your computer has issues!


I'd like a new i7 27-inch iMac please! :3

As for the way gravity works in most shounen series? Thank God! biggrin.gif I like the defy-everything stance. wink.gif
angelofsarcasm89
I don't think Roy sleeps with any of his dates. A friend of mine explained to me once why he wanted an actual girlfriend and didn't just like random one-night stands, forgive his language. "If I just want sex, I can wank off. What I want is someone that I can connect with and care about and actually enjoy my time with, and none of these random girls do that for me."

Also, he probably doesn't want to get too close to anyone because of the old "It's not you, it's my enemies that would jump at the chance to hurt you or use you as a hostage" superhero problem. And then of course, the love interest always gets taken hostage...
Animeoldtimer
QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Apr 27 2010, 02:39 PM) *
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Apr 27 2010, 11:11 AM) *
Kale--Get a better computer! tongue.gif Royai's too subtle to be noticed when your computer has issues!


I'd like a new i7 27-inch iMac please! :3

As for the way gravity works in most shounen series? Thank God! biggrin.gif I like the defy-everything stance. wink.gif



Maybe there's a special alchemy that's used instead of bras. laugh.gif
Hagaren_4ever
OK, let's just say that women in the FMA world have levitating boobs. Jeez. laugh.gif
(It's ridiculous we spent that much time discussing this. XD)

As for Roy... hmmm... no I just don't see it. I just don't see Roy being a virgin.Riza, sure, but Roy? I don't know... I think he's done the do with at least ONE woman. (Not that he couldn't and still be equally badass, it's just that he's a womanizer.)
FailToImpress
QUOTE (Animeoldtimer @ Apr 27 2010, 10:11 PM) *
Maybe there's a special alchemy that's used instead of bras. laugh.gif


Hmm, interesting!!
But Riza can't do alchemy, she'd need a little help with that... I wonder if Roy knows how... shifty.gif
Kaori Ayanami
This people...

May I remind you there are, in fact, strapless bras in this world?
I think she didn't need a bra back when she showed the tattoo to Roy. She doesn't seem to, by the looks of it... Anyway, it's clear she did take off one or two layers of clothes before the "showing" scene. Thanks for pointing out her garments in the burial scene.

As of Roy's womanizing behavior, it's clearly a cover-up, even if he does date for real. Riza doesn't need that kind of cover-up, so I don't think she dates. On a regular basis, at least.
It doesn't matter, anyway, since they're the closest one to the other one no matter what.
Causmicfire
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Apr 27 2010, 11:11 AM) *
Kale--Get a better computer! tongue.gif Royai's too subtle to be noticed when your computer has issues!

ramencat--Gotta love the shonen double-standard of well-endowed women and no sex! (And you would not appreciate your other statement for long. Somone said it earlier--one word: gravity.)


Remember gravity doesn't exist in manga, either. Ed's antenna for example.
Tian Ai
QUOTE
OMG you guys, this conversation. XD Can't believe there's already 2 pages of it! Hahaha! I love you all.

My thoughts exactly. Roy and Riza are so popular, we can spend days discussing the mechanisms of her non-sagging boobs and his potential one-night stands.

QUOTE
As of Roy's womanizing behavior, it's clearly a cover-up, even if he does date for real. Riza doesn't need that kind of cover-up, so I don't think she dates. On a regular basis, at least.

That's a pretty logical statement. Roy probably goes out with a few girls to blend in with the civilians and keep an ear out for things.

QUOTE
btw, a while ago, I said I would try to translate the Roy and Riza parts of the character guide. But, I, well, overestimated my Japanes skills, to say the least. I can't translate anything more elaborate than a simple sentance. So, no translation. Really sorry.

Hey! Do you happen to know where we can find the character guide? And don't be sorry, thanks for trying!
hand-made-city
QUOTE (FailToImpress @ Apr 27 2010, 11:20 AM) *
QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Apr 27 2010, 05:08 PM) *
Probably wouldn't sleep with her either. He's not like that.


What man isn't like that? ohmy.gif lol I refuse to believe that he's not interested in sleeping with any of the women he might go on dates with. Men and their needs, right? I'm not saying he'd sleep with any woman, but honestly, if he can get it he'll take it and still be a gentleman about it.


I'm not saying he's innocent. We can't judge that because we don't know these things. But in any case, he certainly can't do it now. He has no time for that. I'd go with angelofsarcasm89's logic, that some men really aren't like that and don't like one-night-stands.

Okay, jeez I am so done with these strange topics! lol! I can't take it anymore!
Turdaewen
QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Apr 27 2010, 01:08 PM) *
Err.. well here's a bit of feminine advice (lol anime1 reference), women don't/can't wear a bra with every top they wear.. On some tops you'd be able to see the bra straps, which is not good. But yeah, I'd like to avoid that conversation, since I think you guys have already discussed it plenty! lol!

As for dating... hmm... Roy I could see going out with a woman every once in a while, but nothing major. Probably wouldn't sleep with her either. He's not like that. Riza is more reserved and way too dedicated to Roy's goal to think about herself and dating other men. She hasn't even unpacked her belongings in her apartment, so how would she have time to date? I'd like to think that she at least went out and enjoyed herself sometimes, but I honestly don't think it would happen very often.


Well, that depends, that's what strapless bras' are for! And, depending on the top, it's actually nice to show off the bra straps (of course, than it has to be a really good looking bra, but still...)


QUOTE (ramencat @ Apr 27 2010, 03:06 PM) *
This conversation... I don't even know where to start. Not much I can say about bras, exept that I would... aprecciate... it if Riza didn't wear one *gets shot*. And honestly, I dought Roy sleeps around, he has discipline... probably. Also, this is a shonen manga; sex doesn't exist, remember? tongue.gif


Well, theoretically, yes, but I have NO idea how the hell RinMei from Hero Tales (another shounen manga from Arakawa) would end up pregnant, then. lol
And let's not forget, for example, the Dragon Ball manga... XD


And, really, I don'y know about other people, but, in my circle of friends, sleeping with someone is not something you do as if you were 'changing clothes'. Even the men, who would rhetorically be more outgoing in that sense, they just don't go dating and sleeping around with someone they just met.
So, in summon: real life is not like Sitcoms or movies. And it's not THAT easy to get laid. And to do it just 'out of need' is something that may be quite common, but it's not 'well seen' by most. Taking more into account that Roy was raised by Madame Christmas and got to learn to respect women, I trully doubt he would go around doing things like that.

It doesn't mean at all that either Roy or even Riza may be virgins, but there's a BIG difference between that and being a womanizer.

Of course, there's always the exceptions, but, being 'righteous people' as they are, I don't think they would go for it.

So, the way I see it, they're regular people in that sense, like most people their age are: having occasional dates and, some of them, may turn out serious, but it's far from having a date every week with a different woman.
jacksparrow589
Well said, Turdaewen. Well said, indeed! *nods*

I can actually totally see Madam Christmas looming over Roy, going "I hear one breath of scandal, and there will be consequences."

In any case, I don't know (nor do I really mind) if only one or even neither is a virgin, but I don't believe that Roy would actually sleep around just to save face--he's too upstanding for that.
Causmicfire
Chris would also tell Roy not to make her into a grandmother too soon...

Cute song for RoyAi: You're Still the One by Shania Twain (an older song, but I haven't regularly listened to her music for about 10+ years)

A little mushy, but some of the lyrics could also fit their goals which is what brought them together.

Agreeing with Turdaewen about Movies and T.V.(Media) portraying the number of people who sleep around incorrectly.

Turdaewen
Especially regarding they're not the easiest people to 'let someone in', since they're both military and war veterans on top of that. It's probably a lot harder for them to actually let someone into their intimacy than most people.
Broken Chouchou

Um... I just skimmed through the last couple of pages, figured I'd update myself, haven't visited the thread for a while. And, well, err... lol tongue.gif Entertaining discussions XD

QUOTE (FailToImpress @ Apr 27 2010, 11:20 AM) *
What man isn't like that? ohmy.gif


XD

QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Apr 28 2010, 03:46 AM) *
I'd go with angelofsarcasm89's logic, that some men really aren't like that and don't like one-night-stands.


Thank you, for acknowledging that, haha. I'm sure there are plenty of guys like that happy.gif I was loling over how some of you - especially as women, too - were putting all men in the same category and just assume all of them (er, us) are horndogs XD I mean generally I would agree, but obviously there a exceptions, and probably more than you'd think.

Now what was that about jiggling?? biggrin.gif
FailToImpress
QUOTE (Causmicfire @ Apr 28 2010, 04:15 AM) *
Chris would also tell Roy not to make her into a grandmother too soon...


Yeah, I'm sure Roy's very sensible anyway...
Do I think either is a virgin? Riza maybe, and and that's a small maybe, but not Roy.

Anyway, they're fictional characters, it doesn't really matter.

Broken Chouchou: lol. I couldn't help myself. ...I was just joking... or am I? biggrin.gif Obviously there's exceptions, I totally understand that. I wasn't saying that Roy had ons's left, right and centre, you can go out with many people and sleep with them, and yes, still be decent about it. I think Roy is more than capable of pulling that off.
angelofsarcasm89
Roy, I doubt it, even if he and Riza haven't slept together. I'm not sure how old he was when he started studying under Hawkeye-sensei, so he could have had some girlfriends before he even met Riza, or while he was in basic training before he realized that he's totally in love with his teacher's daughter.
Riza, I'd say Roy would be the the only one for her. It seems like she doesn't get superclose to people like that, plus the whole thing with her tattoo and having to explain all of that. The fact that anyone smart enough to date her would be able to put two and two together and figure out "Flame alchemy tattoo on her back...works under the Flame Alchemist...Oh, Roy Mustang the gorgeous playboy has seen her topless..." which is probably a bit of a mood killer.
SneakyRuler
I highly doubt Riza could get intimate with anyone until she spent some time in Eastern Headquarters.

First, she was probably brought uo to be shy and even subconsciously she must have avoided situations where her tatto could be seen. And once her tattoo stopped being a potential threat to society (and Roy as well) she had to find a way to cope with her post war trauma.

Which reminds me how much work Hughes had to put into his relationship with Gracia after he got back from Ishbal. There was constant exchange of letters and he intended to marry her yet it must have been tough to come back from war and act all cheerful.
rinoaebastel
Well, I don't think that Riza "date" so much she is more concentrate in her work and in helping Roy to achieve his goal. And she is a person that put her wellbeing under the others so I think that she didn't care to have a "boyfriend" She only have eyes for Roy In all senses.

About Roy...Im happy to belive that he only have a few dates and just spread the word of Im the best. I belive that most of his dates could be informants at least after Maes death. But the thing is that he is gentelman for being a womanizer. It's confusing.

About Roy's reaction (or lack of) when she shows the tatto...well first I think he didn't expect her to undress so that could be shocking I can imagine hey Roy come here im goign to show secrets he goes happy to the room and she starts to undress and he what????? So...or he is socked for her undressing or just because the tatto is in her back.

I notice that the intense of flirting and more feeling things between Roy and Riza grows more and more just hope it's going more and more up x)

Well Another thing. Kale reminded me that I had two doujins to show that I bought I think a month ago. So I left a pic for sharing smile.gif

Turdaewen
Really, people: there're no rules for that sort of thing!

For example, my current boyfriend didn't have a single date for over 5 years before we got together. And it wasn't like "he couldn't have it, if he wanted", he just didn't wanted! And I know he's telling the truth, cause we've been friends forever before we hook up. He just was tired of meaningless relationships, so he didn't want anything to do with something he knew wasn't going nowhere.

And we may thing that that's an exception, and it really is, but it's not as uncommon as most people think. I know other people who do similar things. So not necessarily it's like "Roy's a nice looking guy who likes girls, so he definitely have had some." Moreover, we were not discussing if he had EVER a date or a girl, because not having ever is highly improbable, but whether he 'sleeps around' or not. Which I think he probably doesn't.


And Brocken Chouchou is right: not every man is horndog. In fact, most of them aren't.
And those who are, usually don't get many women, because, generally, women don't like that. I know there's people who really 'don't care', but it's not the majority.
ramencat
Tian Ai: I found the guide at the Kinokuniya bookstore in San Fransisco. It's a Japanese bookstore that mostly deals in imports. I think there's one in New York too. You could probably find it online too, but I haven't looked. I don' have a scanner so I can't upload pages. Urg.

And I am very happy someone is standing up for guys. Being male on this thread can be scary...
Turdaewen
QUOTE (ramencat @ Apr 28 2010, 11:17 AM) *
And I am very happy someone is standing up for guys. Being male on this thread can be scary...

Yeah, I've been around guys most of my life, being such a nerd and all. XD
Most my friends are men. You could say I've been a tomboy throughout my teen years. Sometimes my boyfriend gets scared as to how many men I actually know. lol (of course, all of them are trekkers, or RPG players or computer geeks)

And, since I'm no longer a teenager (I'm actually closer to the 30's than teens, now), this whole "men are the enemy' makes no sense. XD Just as well as stereotypes like 'womanizers'. But then, again, some people really tend to follow stereotypes even after adulthood, which is kinda sad, actually.

But I don't think that's Roy's case. We tend to 'change our way of thinking' once we get to see certain things happening to our lives... Once you leave school/college, starts working, and your friends and colleagues start getting sick, having cancer, getting married and having kids (last week, for example, I've found out that a former 'sweetheart' of mine has a muscular degenerative desease and can't even leave his house), well, lets just say that, usually, when you reach your 30's, 'going out' and 'having sex' is usually not something that occupies your mind as often. We get a sharp reality check that we won't be 'young' forever... but that's something it's hard to tell: you can only fully understand it once you live it.

My friends are all in Riza's/Roy's age (hell, I'm almost there!), now and, among them, people who still act like "college students" are the ones considered "didn't grow up".

And for someone who's so serious about other things as Roy is, it would be weird if he really did 'spend his precious time' fooling around;
When we see him 'being him' and not 'acting up', he's usually worrying about Edward, about his subordinates, trying to figure out who killed Hughes... He's a 30 year old Colonel. To get to that, he cannot be TRULLY lazy or womanizer, of he wouldn't get so far! 'Getting to the top' is hard work and, if Roy really sees that as his 'goal', he would be distracted about other stuff. Specially in the military.

So, yes, I really do think he's acting up on that. Not because I think 'he's loyal to Riza' or because I have a wishful thinking that they'll be together and it would be nice if both of them 'saved for eachother'. But because life as adults so committed to an end like they are don't really have time or spirit to fool around. That's just Arakawa's comic relief.
FailToImpress
QUOTE (Turdaewen @ Apr 28 2010, 03:04 PM) *
And Brocken Chouchou is right: not every man is horndog. In fact, most of them aren't.
And those who are, usually don't get many women, because, generally, women don't like that. I know there's people who really 'don't care', but it's not the majority.


Oh yeah totally. If I'm being serious about it then I'd say the same, I was mostly just playing up to the stereotype before. laugh.gif
The majority of men I know who are in their 20s don't sleep around that much and have proper relationships, although there are a couple who still like to 'play the field'.
However that's a different topic.


So yeah... not long til 107! I can't wait, counting down the days!
jacksparrow589
I'll toss in my apology, too: Sorry if I sounded anti-guy at any point. Most guys I know really are fine, upstanding gentlemen who do look for serious relationships. (The University I currently attend is gigantic, so I've seen the best and the worst of them side-by-side.) I think some girls are actually worse about that sort of thing, but the point is both genders have their share of bad and good. But mostly good, I'd like to think.

I guess that one little "missing" (we really don't know, do we?) undergarment turned out to be more trouble than anyone bargained for!

rinoaebastel--Ooh! Pretty covers! I like them very much!
Broken Chouchou
Haha, absolutely no offense taken! (on my part at least). Don't apologize for fun reading biggrin.gif Stereotypes are funny.
FailToImpress
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Apr 28 2010, 06:54 PM) *
I'll toss in my apology, too: Sorry if I sounded anti-guy at any point. Most guys I know really are fine, upstanding gentlemen who do look for serious relationships. (The University I currently attend is gigantic, so I've seen the best and the worst of them side-by-side.) I think some girls are actually worse about that sort of thing, but the point is both genders have their share of bad and good. But mostly good, I'd like to think.


Very true.
I apologise if anyone got the wrong end of the stick with what I was saying, I sometimes have that effect on people... happy.gif I'm useless with words.
Kale Mustang
If I were to be offended by some of these posts, I'd have really thin skin. wink.gif

I know what you guys meant and although there are guys that fit the stereotype, many of us (of course I'm including myself) are not that way at all. So give a nice guy a chance wink.gif

Anyways, regarding the 'did they or they didn't', what I enjoy about having lack of information regarding their pasts is that it can be fun to make up your own theories. Do I think they were romantic back then? Perhaps, though probably more than a hug and kiss on the cheek - but there's clearly affection there. Do I think something might've happened in Ishval? Maybe, if only to try to forget everything for a little while. Do I think there's something going on now? I'd like to think that they'd like to spend some quiet times alone - but as for sleeping with one another...probably an extremely rare occurrence.

Regarding Roy growing up and developing his persona: it's just an act. Most of the girls he's with are going to be nine times out of ten one of his 'sisters' for information drops or maybe he just wants to catch up with them. I think that despite him not having a usual upbringing, he was taught well by Madame Christmas and the girls. Roy would definitely have first-hand knowledge on how most men act and treat a woman that wasn't their wife/girlfriend if he were simply hanging around the bar, and I'm sure that Madame Christmas and the girls would teach him what not to do and to not act like those men...but at the same time to act like them. To make sure he's not suspicious, he has to build an act that makes him act like the very men he's probably been told not to grow up to be, but he knows he has to in order to stay safe.

Has he actually dated women? Probably. Has he slept with them? Maybe, maybe not. Roy's a little too career-minded and goal-oriented that he probably lives by the phrase, "I'll sleep when I'm dead" in order to achieve his goal of being Fuhrer. So for now, he'll probably remain single until peace has been achieved...and then try out the dating thing afterwards.
spectator
They are sleeping or not, virgins or not, let Bones decides! I think I'll regret that decision But, with the latest episode, I give Bones 5 stars for the Royai effect they have done. Great job Bones! But we still need more overdose of Royai.
Michiyo-
Sorry to change topic, but I just found the 4-Koma Theater video that was on the 8th DVD/BD. There's a Royai scene at the end. And at the beginnig Roy is talking about Elizabeth. biggrin.gif
Can someone translate these omakes, please?

Link
Nagareboshi
QUOTE (Michiyo- @ Apr 28 2010, 04:25 PM) *
Sorry to change topic, but I just found the 4-Koma Theater video that was on the 8th DVD/BD. There's a Royai scene at the end. And at the beginnig Roy is talking about Elizabeth. biggrin.gif
Can someone translate these omakes, please?

Link


Roy at the beginning
Talking to myself. That's right. Elizabeth was unfortunately taken to another place wasn't she? It's because of that that I can talk leisurely like this with you.

Royai at the end:Moeru Gomi-Garbage Infatuation
Roy: I'll be like my teacher and use the gift he gave me to become a soldier. Someday I'm sure that I'll probably die on the roadside like a piece of trash. But even so, I think I'd be happy if I could protect the people of this country with my hands...

Riza thinking: Like trash? I want to try to see that.

Riza talking: I'll become a soldier too. Please put me by your side Mister Mustang.

Roy: *Startled/shocked* Really? Yeah...I don't mind, but...okay.

___________
This 4koma's so funny. Poor Roy in a pile of trash.
brotchen
Thankyou for the translation Nagareboshi! Poor Roy... laugh.gif

The conversation for the last two pages have reminded me of something I've always been curious about, in fanfiction it seems norm to portray Roy as a selfish lazy womanizing idiot (Who is somehow still highly ranked in the military?) Yet when I read the manga I only really see a handful of humorous scenes where he displays any of these traits. Having not watched the first anime is this persona more prominent in there? Or is it just people flanderdizing his character? huh.gif
jacksparrow589
I'm pretty sure Roy as a lazy, womanizing idiot does stem primarily from anime1. Episode 13--the miniskirt army, and the whole "I love dogs!" speech. Episode 37--steals Havoc's date, doesn't do his paperwork... I'm sure there are lots of other little bits, too.

There was also probably a lot of joking and stuff like that going around, and people who aren't as "involved" as us crazies (admit it--we joined the dark side because they had cookies!) with FMA just seeing what was on the surface.

I try not to do that anymore, but seeing as when I got into FMA, I had only anime1 to go off of (I was introduced to the anime first, and the manga was up to only volume 4 in the US, anyway), I can understand it. Not saying I encourage it, though.
hand-made-city
QUOTE (ramencat @ Apr 28 2010, 09:17 AM) *
And I am very happy someone is standing up for guys. Being male on this thread can be scary...


laugh.gif Hahah aww. I'm in the same boat as Turdaewen... most of my friends are guys, so I've grown used to their behavior. Animation is a male-dominated field, so I'm always surrounded by them! And we're all geeks!

@brotchen: It's definitely demeaning of his character... he skimps out on paperwork maybe twice in the whole series, yet in lots of fanfiction Hawkeye is holding a gun to his head in order to make him do his work. In that case, both characters are portrayed wrongly.

Oh lord.. did any of that make sense? I'm so sick right now... my head is spinning!
Nagareboshi
@brotchen:You're welcome.


QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Apr 28 2010, 11:01 PM) *
@brotchen: It's definitely demeaning of his character... he skimps out on paperwork maybe twice in the whole series, yet in lots of fanfiction Hawkeye is holding a gun to his head in order to make him do his work. In that case, both characters are portrayed wrongly.

Oh lord.. did any of that make sense? I'm so sick right now... my head is spinning!


That made perfect sense. I really hate how some fanfics have Riza pulling out her guns for everything. I also hate how Roy's portrayed as a womanizer who's only interested in one-night stands. It's really difficult to find fanfics with substance that accurately portray any of the FMA characters.
angelofsarcasm89
Speaking of fanfics, I hate ones where Riza is just dead-set against wearing dresses and skirts and absolutely hates them. I'm like "Uh, guys? You do realize that we've seen her wearing skirts outside of work, right?"
Turdaewen
Kale, I agree with every word you said. XD

brotchen, that "Roy persona" you're talking about only comes off as a comic relief in the manga. In every serious occasion during the series, Roy's not like that. That only gets explored as a REAL trait of his in FMA 1.

What we DO get to see is that Roy and Riza like to tease eachother. A LOT! (can anyone say EdWin??) Riza LOVES to say Roy is useless and an idiot and Roy likes to bring up how Riza cares so much about him.

And Riza is actually SEEN as a very strict woman, who can shoot you if you mess around. But she never actually DID it. Quite the opposite, she usually imposes herself with smart remarks and, as Roy has said himself, "she's actually a very kind/sweet woman".
And about the skirts... it's absolutely ridiculous! EVERY scene in FMA that Riza is in civilian clothes, she's wearing either a dress or a skirt, both in the manga and in original artworks. Can't remember any 'official' portray of Riza in civilian clothes and wearing pants or any sort of 'unfeminine outfit' for what matters. (I mean, just look at my avatar, for example!) XD
Katya Martin
Come to think of it, when have we seen her wearing pants outside of work?

It's the stupid "real women don't wear skirts" thing all over again, and it's really annoying. For some reason people get the idea that you can't have a strong female character in a skirt... and, of course, in this case, they're kind of missing the point of half the female characters in the series.

Regarding the guns: I want to see one with a Super Soaker. Because even if it were out of character, it'd be hilarious.
StormGoddess
I can remember her wearing pants in FMA1, but that's because she was in disguise. And another one from a scan.

I think Riza being stern, strict, strong, and badass are misinterpreted as being manly, and so in fan fictions it's always unusual for Riza to wear dresses and skirts. I think Olivier in a dress is more surprising, though. laugh.gif
Kale Mustang
I like that Riza in civilian dress is quite feminine (why hello there skirt that accentuates her legs and thighs wink.gif) and it suits her quite well. She's very well put-together and dresses her age.

But I also love the fact that when she's ready to get down to business, she still maintains a bit of the femininity as well (the hairclip and earrings smile.gif).

I find it funny for Roy in his civvies is that he's quite formal, considering he gives off more of a relaxed air about him. The only time you'll ever see him in something other than his suit is usually in print media or in the games. laugh.gif
Turdaewen
I love Roy's clothes *.* It suits him just fine. In fact, it shows even more he's not what he seems at a first glance. And his civillian clothes show a very different side of him.
FailToImpress
QUOTE (angelofsarcasm89 @ Apr 29 2010, 05:02 AM) *
Speaking of fanfics, I hate ones where Riza is just dead-set against wearing dresses and skirts and absolutely hates them. I'm like "Uh, guys? You do realize that we've seen her wearing skirts outside of work, right?"


Unfortunately Riza often falls victim to bad fiction writing. I don't read loads of fan fiction, but of what I have read, the majority portray her as a woman who doesn't socialise, pulls her gun out at anything, doesn't enjoy shopping, and is a cold, hard woman. That's not Riza at all!

Also, I love Roy in civvies.
Michiyo-
That's why I don't read fanfics. They often make Roy and Riza OOC, and I don't like that.

Roy in civilian clothes = awesome ^^

Oh, and thanks for translating the omakes, Nagareboshi! smile.gif
RoyxRizaFan
Like everyone else has said, catching up on the last few pages has been extremely amusing laugh.gif

As for the virgin thing, I have no idea for either of them, but I'm going to agree with everyone that said it's unlikely either of them sleep around, because they have their goals and jobs to focus on. Roy's a broke, busy Colonel who is currently trying to save the country, bit by bit, since Ishbal. So I doubt he's had any relationships since then, and despite the anime's portrayal of him, I don't seem him as the one-night-stand kind of person. I think if either of them aren't virgins - though due to Riza's past, I have difficulty seeing her not being one especially - it's because of some stupid fling they had when they were younger with someone, or even each other, who knows. But call me old fashioned, I'd prefer if they hadn't had anyone before one another.

As for Roy's civilian clothing...I give him five stars biggrin.gif The only thing better than a man in uniform is a man in a suit. Riza made a good choice: he covers both XDDDD

And these misinterpretations of Riza's character - as being a cold, bloodthirsty, triggerhappy macho woman - and Roy's character - as being a lazy, careless womanizer - are the reasons why the first anime drives me insane. I wouldn't even MIND the anime if everyone who watched it read the manga, and knew better, but I feel like everyone's missing out on the characters (any of them) because they're not even the same people in the anime.
Kale Mustang
Soo no one still cares for 'Drug Lord Roy' from the FMA Wii game? tongue.gif

I'm strangely fond of that ugly Hawaiian shirt they gave him...must be due to the shirt being pink. laugh.gif Though the sunglasses should've been black and not purple.
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