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FailToImpress
QUOTE (SneakyRuler @ Mar 25 2010, 03:01 AM) *
I believe Roy personally would consider happy even if he were to be executed after some time because he could be satisfied he reached his goal.


Totally agree, it would be so like him to do something like that.
FMAobsessed
I really want to know where Arakawa said that FMA would be ending in three chapters. It is plausible though because the recent chapters have been longer.

I have conflicting views with how I want Roy and Riza's ending to wrap up. I want them together that is for certain. And I really don't want an ambigous ending either. I want actual closure no matter what it is. I don't their ending to be like how it was in Conqueror of Shamballa

My fangirl heart wants them to drop the formalities and actually call each other by their first names. They have known each other long enough that they should. I also want a kiss. We got a hug, so lets go a step up now.
A Pierrot's Aria
^I don't think it's that Arakawa actually said it was ending in three chapters, rather it's just an educated guess by coinciding them with the episodes, resulting in them ending at the same time. : ) (Correct me if I'm wrong. >.<)

Personally. I'd like a happy ending for the two, and I agree, I'd love them to call each other by their first names. biggrin.gif Also, as someone mentioned before, the 520 Cenz promise may be a clue to how it'll end for Roy- it could mean that he'll reach his goal some way or other.
amestris_star
Let's put it this way - if Roy doesn't take care of Riza, Ed will kill him personally XD

Hence... that tongue.gif

Oh yeah, I'm pretty positive that they'll be fine and together at the end smile.gif
RoyxRizaFan
^ If Roy stays blind, it's more likely that Riza will be taking care of him than the other way around.

Though you're right - that was kind of part of the 520 cenz promise. Well, not really, but Ed did tell him "you better not worry the Lieutenant", so yeah.
angelofsarcasm89
^ This. She'll train Hayate to be the best seeing-eye dog in the entire country.
Hagaren_4ever
There's a lot of chatter about how there's only 3 chapters left. (I'm a little late getting in on this, but... ^^) This is how I think it'll all go down.

Chapter 106: Ed and Al and everyone defeats Father and Pride.
Chapter 107: Ed and Al (and everyone possibly) get their bodies back. (Hohenheim dies either in this chapter or the next.)
Chapter 108: Tying up loose ends.

I don't know, to me it seems like plenty of time to wrap up the series, I mean if a whole chapter is dedicated to each of these main points (and I have the feeling the actual process of the bodies being returned won't take 50-something pages XD) then I think we should be fine. smile.gif

So sad that it's ending, though. :/
Turdaewen
Hey! I'm back!! ^^

It's been a while... sad.gif Anyways, I hope to get back into posting regularly. ^^

So... you guys are still talking about the end of Royai.

There's so many things to comment, I don't even know where to start...

I really think it's going to end on 108, even because we don'y know how things will turn out, so, it may be quite suficient. Plus, Arakawa never said exactly how many chapters she would make, but she DID say FMA would be finished in the Spring, which means it'll probably not get to July.

About Roy, I really think he'll have a sort of happy ending "Arakawa Style". I also think Arakawa didn't put the 520 cenz promise over nothing, so, I still have great expectations that he'll end up as Führer, somehow.
But he getting his sight back, I'm less sure.
I think that, if Al has a chance to get his body back, than so does every one else! It's only logic. But I also think that, being the 'Payment" a sort of "Lesson to be learned", I don't think its going to be that easy or simple. So, he won't get his sight back unless there's a really good reason.

And about Royai at the end, I guess its pretty established that it will, 'cause, at least for me, is something just so... obvious by now that it would be lame to make as if it wasn't there. But, as always, it does not mean "I love you"s or kisses or anything of the sort. XD


Oh! And I trully doubt either one would die at this point. The only character in the 'center' that I can see dying, now, is Hohenheim. (which would turn out to be a happy ending, for him. Poor guy! Let him rest! lol)
jacksparrow589
I'm thinking that, unfair as it was that Roy's sight was taken from him for something he tried to prevent but was essentially forced into, he won't get his sight back. But that opens up the door for a whole slew of possibilities, and I really think that making it to the top despite that hardship is one of them. (That seems to be one of the strongest themes in FMA: not giving up no matter the difficulties one faces.)

And the image of Hayate as a seeing-eye dog makes me very happy. Betcha he's halfway there already, with how Riza's trained him. smile.gif
Tombow
<Reminder>

I understand that.. to those who are diligently following FMA manga up-to-date, using SPOILER tags while talking some of these "well-known" (to those who had already past these chapters, of course ^^) major FMA story development, such as.. Roy becoming blind etc., etc. may seem like such a silly thoughts. ...yeah, I know. ^^

However... there are indeed quite many silent lurker reader/viewers of this thread out there, and some of them are indeed not all caught up on reading FMA manga chapters, and some of them are not even half way on his/her FMA manga reading. But, they ARE Royai fans nonetheless and they do enjoy coming to our board and reading this thread.


Therefore...

We highly appreciate your considerations for those members/readers/posters of this thread, by diligently using SPOILERS tags when including major FMA story development on your posts. smile.gif

I tracked back a few pages on this thread and kind of covered up some of your guys' posts with Spoiler covers, but if your post included some major FMA manga story development and not covered up by the spoiler cover yet, please make sure they are covered so that some unsuspecting reader/viewer of this thread wouldn't get unwittingly spoiled of the still unread FMA manga chapter storylines. .. At least, not from reading this thread, since this is one of the most popular and most read/viewed threads on our board. smile.gif
Also, please keep this in mind, and please keep reminding to each other on the use of SPOILER tags among posters of this thread. ^^

Thank you so much!! biggrin.gif
Turdaewen
Sry, Tombow! sad.gif
It won't happen again.
shanryelric
oops. sorry too! maybe i ever did that T w T
Thalogens
Even if there is no outward display of affection, I'd be happy with simply calling the other by their first name. Unless they're alone together, I just don't see them actively showing their feelings towards each other via anything more powerful than a hug, seeing as they've hidden their relationship for so long, it would be a little awkward for them and all the other characters if they just kissed in broad daylight. It just doesn't fit with Riza's character, but maybe in private... I don't know.
With everything ending in 3 chapters... I can't picture FMA ending ever... What if something else happens?? ...ok so it's a litle late in the game for a new plot twist, but there are too many things we still havent found out...
rzerox21xx
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted. Too bad its in a angel where Royai was in less focus.




Kuji from Fullmetal alchemist forum posted pic, he also has this awesome deviant page that known for good edwin art.

http://krizy.deviantart.com/gallery/#Hagaren-FMA

according to Kuji

"The poster commented about it, and IIRC said something like, this was drawn by another anime staff member, who drew it for a member of Hagaren's anime staff who got married."


to add more validility on the marriage pic, I asked Amber of deviantart(her sources are very reliable and proven true concerning news on brotherhood and what is the staff and director doing. ) about the pic and this is what she has to say.

I read the story this pic was drawn by the anime staff in Japanese domestic huge BBS, and I actually saw this pic in it.
I hardly remember in detail, but I seem that was not the anime staff's marriage but one of staff who took charge of character songs.
This pic seem to have been uploaded in the blog of character song's producer.
I don't know more than that.
hand-made-city
Ohh what a cute picture! I just wish Roy and Riza were up front instead. ^.^
FMAobsessed
@rzerox21xx: Thank you for posting that picture. Now we need one where it is Roy and Riza in the front and Edward and Winry in the back. Just have them switched.
jacksparrow589
Oops! Sorry about that, Tombow! On that note, though, exactly how long after its release should info from any given chapter be spoiler-tagged? (It looks like several months, but not more than a year... is that right?)

rzerox21xx--Thanks for sharing the picture! It makes me smile every time I see it, even if the Royai bit is a little fuzzy. However, I'm going to be horrible and wonder how it is that Riza would be wearing a dress that doesn't quite cover her back all the way. Oh well. Not gonna question it--it's the magic of imagination!
black~hayate
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Mar 29 2010, 08:02 PM) *
However, I'm going to be horrible and wonder how it is that Riza would be wearing a dress that doesn't quite cover her back all the way. Oh well. Not gonna question it--it's the magic of imagination!


You think she needs to wear one that covers her back?
I don't think so =) Her tatoo is destroyed and nobody would find out how to use flame alchemy because of it. So there's no need to hide it... if they marry, everyone can know who's Roy's power source... right?
And since I think Riza's the kind of woman who wouldn't be ashamed of a scar, why don't wear a nice dress that suits your tastes, even if the back is open?
Turdaewen
It's not about being ashamed, but rather because Riza is a very reserved woman. Not only because of the current situation: it's part of who she is.

Her tatoo is just something rather intimate to go around showing it, even if noone can understand what it means. I guess she would consider rude to show it around when it's something connected to her family, her relationship with her father, with Roy... Riza's not 'outgoing' enough for that. She likes to keep things private.

It's the same as PDA. XD I can't picture Riza being a fan of PDA for her life... lol

So, at least from the original artwork we get from Arakawa, Riza is always with her back covered (even in a evening gown! Just take a look at my avatar! ^^). And she can look just as good and sexy without showing of her back. XD
angelofsarcasm89
Oh my god, that picture is amazing and makes me a happy, happy fangirl. I'd love it if they were the focus of it, but I'll take what I can get.

Also, Riza doesn't need to show her back. We all know Roy's a leg man. happy.gif
jacksparrow589
hayate--Turdaewen pretty much said it: It's not that she shouldn't, per se, but just that she wouldn't. I happen to think she looks very fetching in that dress, but it just wouldn't happen.
Murdoc
@rzerox21xx
That is an awesome find!!! If only Roy and Riza were at a better angle :/ Oh well, still an awesome pic!

By the way, I made this AMV to FMA, and it's a Roy and Riza tribute (at the moment), but I wouldn't necessarily classify it as Royai, but I though I'd share it nonetheless tongue.gif Hope you like!
Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6N66vDBF8A
black~hayate
Oh Murdoc! I love this video! And I love videos like these! It's a nice tribute and shows the amazingness of the manga and reminds me why I love it so much.
RoyxRizaFan
Less than two days until Anime Boston! Here's my Riza Hawkeye cosplay:













Murdoc - Awesome video!!

FMAobsessed
@RoyxRizafan: Nice Riza cosplay. I will be at Anime Boston too. I will be cosplaying in a Pikachu outfit that my friend made me. If I see you I will say "Hi"

@ Murdoc: Awesome video. I liked being able to compare the manga scenes to the anime scenes.
jacksparrow589
RoyxRizaFan--Lovely pics! Have fun at the convention! (I'll be at SakuraCon, myself, but I won't be cosplaying...)

Murdoc--I'm pretty sure I have your video favorited, but let me just say that I adore it to bits, especially the use of the manga with the anime!
Murdoc
@ RoyxRizaFan
Awesome cosplay!! I love the Roy plushie (doll?) thing, haha! You make a good Riza smile.gif

Miverel
Wow! Murdoc! Awesome video! I love the way you mixed manga scenes with anime clips! Not to mention I adore Three Days Grace... And this band with RoyAi scenes made me go AWWWWKHKJHSA! Great job! smile.gif
RoyxRizaFan
@FMAObsessed- In that costume, I probably won't miss you XD Hopefully we'll see each other!

@ jacksparrow - Have fun at your convention!!

@ Murdoc - Aw, thanks so much! Oh, and do you mind me asking where you got the RAWs for your AMV? I've been DYING to make an AMV for Brotherhood, but I can't find any trustworthy places to download it, so if you could share you secret, that would be beyond amazing!
Hagaren_4ever
@RoyxRizaFan: Lol, when I looked at the first picture, I didn't see that you're hair was a wig, and I was like, "Wow, she styled her hair REALLY well!"
spectator
I was wandering on the fullmetal alchemist Wiki and found this...

Mustang refers to all of his subordinates as chess pieces; Riza's is (appropriately) "Queen". The Queen is the only "female" chess piece and is the most powerful and useful piece in the game of chess, appropriate for Riza's battle ability and closeness with Roy, who is the "King".

I like the way it is written. biggrin.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE (black~hayate @ Mar 29 2010, 01:08 PM) *
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Mar 29 2010, 08:02 PM) *
However, I'm going to be horrible and wonder how it is that Riza would be wearing a dress that doesn't quite cover her back all the way. Oh well. Not gonna question it--it's the magic of imagination!


You think she needs to wear one that covers her back?
I don't think so =) Her tatoo is destroyed and nobody would find out how to use flame alchemy because of it. So there's no need to hide it... if they marry, everyone can know who's Roy's power source... right?
And since I think Riza's the kind of woman who wouldn't be ashamed of a scar, why don't wear a nice dress that suits your tastes, even if the back is open?


Of course Riza can wear a low back dress. Don't forget that there is a series of products called cosmetic.
Turdaewen
RoyxRizaFan - Really liked your cosplay

QUOTE
Of course Riza can wear a low back dress. Don't forget that there is a series of products called cosmetic.


Lol!


I also liked the AMV a lot. ^^ Really good! ^^


Aw... and I've written (after years away from fanfics) a Royai fanfic. XD it's a one shot, but, please, check it out! ^^

No more games
A Pierrot's Aria
@Turdaewen Aaaaw! I just read your fanfic and I love it! I think it's really sweet! I really like how you've conveyed that they don't have to tell each other straight for them to understand each other-- all they need is a look and the eyes will tell all. biggrin.gif

@RoyxRizaFan Awesome cosplay! Love the ones with the Roy Plushie-- very cute!
spectator
@Turdaewen: Love the last part. So subtle and suits royai.
oxygen
New opening is so damn sad! LINK I can't stand seeing Roy falling into the darkness, and crying Riza. Everybody's cryin'. I AM CRYING, boo hoo ;(
StormGoddess
QUOTE (oxygen @ Apr 4 2010, 03:06 AM) *
New opening is so damn sad! LINK I can't stand seeing Roy falling into the darkness, and crying Riza. Everybody's cryin'. I AM CRYING, boo hoo ;(


I'm crying, too. Those scenes of Roy and Riza scare me. sad.gif
amestris_star
Good, at least I'm not the only one that teared up when I saw it.
_Jelly
I wonder what the lyrics are when Riza was crying.
jacksparrow589
Yeah, the new opening kinda creeped me out and made me a bit sad, too. I'm going to be optimistic, though, and think that it's referring to what's happened already, and not alluding to what will happen. Still, it was really striking. Is it bad that I can't wait to see all the angsty gloriousness animated? (Sorry if I'm making less sense than usual--I'm all tired out from SakuraCon.)
spectator
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Apr 4 2010, 09:56 AM) *
Yeah, the new opening kinda creeped me out and made me a bit sad, too. I'm going to be optimistic, though, and think that it's referring to what's happened already, and not alluding to what will happen. Still, it was really striking. Is it bad that I can't wait to see all the angsty gloriousness animated? (Sorry if I'm making less sense than usual--I'm all tired out from SakuraCon.)


It's tear of joy then! laugh.gif
Thalogens
Well. I definately hope this isn't forshadowing or anything, what with Roy falling down a bottomless pit and Riza crying... and all..
Ahaahaa... o.o
Maybe spectator is right, and Riza is crying from joy (regardless of the fact that it seems a lot like pathetic falacyD: )
I know that Arakawa told the first anime producers and staff the manga ending, but do the ones making this one know?

We'll just have to -OMG I JUST REALISED, chp. 106 is comming very soon D:
A Pierrot's Aria
Maybe Roy slipping into darkness is sort of a way to show that he's slipping away from the light, in other words, his loss of sight. It reminds me of the play Oedipus Rex where it keeps making references to light and dark as foreshadowing of sorts of Oedipus' impending blindess. (I know it's weird spoiler-tagging that, but if people who aren't that far in see it they could put two and two together and thus be spoiled! xD)
amestris_star
Welll I was thinking this afternoon... Roy mentioned that he wanted to see Riza's tears once again. Well, that could be some foreshadowing in that regard too.

Now the OP has made me want Chp. 106 more and more and more tongue.gif
A Pierrot's Aria
^He said that? o.o Shows how much I pay attention! xD Which chapter does he say that he wants to see her tears again? : )
Miverel
amestris_star, we should get the next chapter soon... Or at least I hope so tongue.gif
Yeah, scene with crying Riza is so heartbraking! I wish it's happend in the manga already! But I bet that new op/end contains some hints of the manga's ending!
Thalogens
Or it could represent him loosing control when killing Envy, and then the events that happened after. It would make anyone loose their minds, but I just don't see Roy just suddenly loosing it like that, he's shown he has a much stronger character.
A Pierrot's Aria
^Yeah! I never thought of that! I like that interpretation! biggrin.gif

Glad I thought of it xD (Joking!)

But my point is that maybe some people are jumping the gun a little just to assume that it means that something bad is going to happen.
: )
shanryelric
the lyric while roy scene and crying riza :

ame wa dous h i t e boku wo erabu no tsutsumarete ii ka na

Rain, Why does it choose me, Maybe it's alright to be enveloped in it

i cant stand crying over the roy scene, it's just so sad, and he looks so.. so.. shocked? sad? emo? nah, somekind of that.. ; __ ; but still, yay for royai!


(I donno why if i wrote down 's h i t e' or 's h i t a' it will go to be like : ......) =w=
Thalogens
@A Pierrot's Aria
Yeah, I agree, maybe the people animating and directing this just put the secquences together to make it look pretty, and there isn't really a double meaning at all D:
But its always fun to over-analyze everything, if we didn't, there'd be no Royai.

Imagine a world without Royai. Scary D:
black~hayate
Yeah, I wouldn't take that opening that seriously. But Riza hugging Hayate was so AWWWWWW...
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