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oxygen
@Tombow Thank you, it's OK right now smile.gif

@rzerox21xx Glad to hear you like my works :3

I could finally watch the episode with phone call. I don't know why but I think it's my favourite Royai moment smile.gif
Tombow
^ @oxygen - Ah, that's good. ^^ And, thank you for being very understanding, and sharing your awesome fanarts with us! ^^ I'm a big BIG fan of your fanarts also, and glad to have you on our board! happy.gif

@rzerox21xx - No problem! I think we share the similar taste in Royai fanarts! biggrin.gif



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And, back to the regular discussion. biggrin.gif

QUOTE (shanryelric @ Jan 18 2010, 01:50 AM) *
out of tpic a bit, anybody know what type of gun and weapons do riza use?


Adding to black~hayate's post above, about Riza's gun: I wish Liz (CodenameElizabeth) or other Riza experts, or Valerie who posted info on Riza's gun on this thread before (of course I can't find it now XD) would be here to answer the question... anyway, it's an Amestris military issue, of course, but I think, if I remember correctly, one of the closest looking one in our world is this one:
Springfield Armory XD 9 millimeter, with 4 inch barrel.
..Actually, I think Riza uses several guns, and usually carries two with her, but this one seems to be the main one. ^^
(I think Forgiven has posted the pic of Riza's gun on this thread somewhere also. ^^)
Causmicfire
Thanks to everyone sharing fanarts.

Wonderful work oxygen

I don't really see Roy being much use anytime soon. Strategist would be the best bet of him being useful. But don't forget Marco is out there!

I'm in agreement that the code scene was rather short, but done well. Now we have the hospital visit scene to look forward to!

I've been so busy with fic challenges and work I've had little time to get around here *waves*

Thalogens
Well, I'm not going to speculate much... but I don't know, I have a bad feeling that Roy is going to get hurt even more. We still have to wait and see what happens... and well, I think either the next chapter or the one after will be the one where 'the final showdown' starts. And mmm... yeah... Roy... I just don't see him actively participating in anything major, apart from the occaisonal 'He's behind you!'. But meh, Arakawa will probably pull something dramatic out of the hat...

@Oyxgen, I really like your art, and I couldn't help but notice that you have 16 posts... you know.. the relative atomic mass of Oxygen.. no..?
Gimpyhair
Talking about fanarts, just did something silly: FMA chap 102 spoilers
Also, for cabout's royai calendar project: Royai Calendar April
FMAobsessed
@Gimpyhair: That comic was really funny. Of course Riza would follow Roy no matter what. But in your comic, even Riza was hesistant about following Roy.
heartwing713
Bwahahaha, awesome comic, Gimpyhair! I love Riza's facial expressions, and how Mustang still manages to have Roy-ish expressions even in blob form. XD great job!
jacksparrow589
Oh, Gimpy, you made my day with that. After all my hard work, I'm tuckered, but that... well, even if it didn't energize me (I need my sleep, anyway, so it's fine), it made me end my day with a smile. Poor Riza can't catch a break lately! (Neither can Roy, apparently.)
black~hayate
QUOTE (Gimpyhair @ Jan 20 2010, 02:04 AM) *
Talking about fanarts, just did something silly: FMA chap 102 spoilers
Also, for cabout's royai calendar project: Royai Calendar April


Haha! I laughed so hard at this comic!
Now you need to draw one more about Roy's eye problem!
ramencat
Hello all. ramencat here. I've been lurking on this thread for longer than any sane person should, and figured I should join the discussion before the manga ends. I am a Riza fan, a Roy fan, and, of course, a Royai fan. Since I'm at school, I can't see most fanart and fanfic, but i'll contribute to the discussion when i can.

I got some FMA stuff at Kinnokuniya. Character Guide and (2nd) Anime Guide 2. I have some basic knowledge of Japanese, so i'll try to translate them. Starting with the Roy and Riza parts, of course. smile.gif
black~hayate
QUOTE (ramencat @ Jan 20 2010, 07:02 PM) *
Hello all. ramencat here. I've been lurking on this thread for longer than any sane person should, and figured I should join the discussion before the manga ends. I am a Riza fan, a Roy fan, and, of course, a Royai fan. Since I'm at school, I can't see most fanart and fanfic, but i'll contribute to the discussion when i can.

I got some FMA stuff at Kinnokuniya. Character Guide and (2nd) Anime Guide 2. I have some basic knowledge of Japanese, so i'll try to translate them. Starting with the Roy and Riza parts, of course. smile.gif


Hello, Ramencat! First of all, I love your nickname. I love ramen and cats biggrin.gif.
Welcome to our Royai thread. It's allways full with clever and crazy guys and we like new people.
Wow! It's very nice of you if you would translate those for us important parts of the character guide! I asked all my friends and they couldn't and wouldn't. If you would be able to translate them, all of us would be happy like crazy! Thank you in advantage!

Also we discuss stuff here. Have you been able to read the latest chapter? I'm asking to make sure I won't spoil a thing =)
RoyxRizaFan
Hello, everyone! Man, it's difficult to keep up at the rate you guys post (especially with midterms all week...bleh!)

Anyhow, welcome to ramencat and any other new members! I hope you stick around and spread the RoyAi love with us!

Thanks for the fan art! Amazing work, oxygen and Gimpyslair!

I want to make a RoyAi AMV, but I don't know where to go to download Brotherhood without subtitles! Does anyone have any ideas by any chance?
hand-made-city
Hi ramencat! Welcome!!

Urrrgh I went to Forbidden Planet today to look for the Roy keychain and it's gone now... replaced by Soul Eater and Bleach stuff... Then I trekked to Kinokuniya but couldn't find anything. I'm suddenly craving that Roy keychain I found, so I'll probably search online and buy it that way!

I also need to get back to drawing Royai fanart again... I miss it. tongue.gif Anyone have any suggestions of what I should draw?
black~hayate
QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Jan 20 2010, 09:50 PM) *
I also need to get back to drawing Royai fanart again... I miss it. tongue.gif Anyone have any suggestions of what I should draw?


After drawing that wife beater tank top Roy how about you draw something like... casual... military everyday life? I'm kinda creative today biggrin.gif And there should be a Black Hayate in the picture, of course! biggrin.gif
Gimpyhair
Thanks for all your great comments! About Roy's eye problem, maybe!
Kale Mustang
QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Jan 20 2010, 12:50 PM) *
Urrrgh I went to Forbidden Planet today to look for the Roy keychain and it's gone now... replaced by Soul Eater and Bleach stuff... Then I trekked to Kinokuniya but couldn't find anything. I'm suddenly craving that Roy keychain I found, so I'll probably search online and buy it that way!


I got these last Saturday:


These were in a box with various other phone straps and keychains.

Also, welcome to all the new Royai members.
hand-made-city
@Kale: Ohh I found a phone strap similar to one of those on Amazon! I just wish my phone had a spot for the strap.. I could always put it somewhere else though.
Kale Mustang
QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Jan 20 2010, 03:37 PM) *
@Kale: Ohh I found a phone strap similar to one of those on Amazon! I just wish my phone had a spot for the strap.. I could always put it somewhere else though.


Aside from those, I have Roy and Riza ones (got them during AX over the summer) and I use them as zipper pulls for my backpack. wink.gif

These ones I love for Hayate peeking out from atop Roy's head.
Katya Martin
@Kale: ~incoherent squealing~ Those are awesome, I wish I had some for my stuff biggrin.gif
jacksparrow589
Welcome, ramencat!

Kale--They're so adorable! Urgh... I don't get out enough to get awesome stuff like that! SakuraCon cannot come fast enough this year...

hand-made-city--I agree with hayate--something casual. Maybe not even military-related. Even though we had them in civvies for quite a while... at some point in the past... they just look so darned good in them! I can't get enough!
rzerox21xx
Tower of Pieces did another swimsuit FMA pic. this time Royai

Secret moment: Royai art per request (Slightly mature theme, although no nudity. ^^)

I recommend you check out her other works here:
tower-of-peace on deviantart

I already pointed the lack of tattoo in Riza's back in one of the comments.
oxygen
Thanks everybody x) I didn't know I have so many fans here! I haven't draw anything lately, but now I'm in charge to do that biggrin.gif
ramencat
QUOTE (black~hayate @ Jan 20 2010, 04:09 PM) *
...Have you been able to read the latest chapter? I'm asking to make sure I won't spoil a thing =)
Urrg... Don't know how to quote.
I read the new chapter as soon the raw is up each month. So yes I have read the new chapter. Roy recovered quickley, it's impressive that he's that calm and annalytical after what happened to him. We didn't see much of Riza, but I think she's gonna run into Roy next chapter, or the one after that. The panel of her in 103 would be kinda pointless and random if she didn't.


I don't know to scan pages to a computer, and probably can't since I'm at school, so all I could provide is a transcript of the text. I can't really speak as for the quality of my translation either, my knowledge of Japanese is very basic. The text of the book does't ussually have furigana (the little characters next to the Chinese characters that tell you how to pronounce that word) so looking up the meanings of Chinese character takes a while. And school doesn't leave me much time. So don't expect anything very quickly. I am working on it though. smile.gif


Tombow
QUOTE (Gimpyhair @ Jan 19 2010, 09:04 PM) *
Talking about fanarts, just did something silly: FMA chap 102 spoilers
Also, for cabout's royai calendar project: Royai Calendar April

@Gimpyhair - I almost fell off my chair laughing with that comic! XD You can make that one that funny just by using expressions... that's a talent!! Thanks for making my day! biggrin.gif

@Kale - I love those straps of Roy with Hayate peeking out on top of Roy's head! And, it's only $3.99?? Wow... nice!! ..I'm tempted to move to LA just so that I can check out stores every week with all these good stuff!! tongue.gif

@rzerox21xx - Thanks for more fanarts! ^^

@oxygen - Oh goody, can't wait to see more of your awesome Royai famarts! ^^

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whippersnapper
@Gimpyhair: laugh.gif Your comics made my day!
Riza: I'll follow you, even to hell even if you become a huge misshapen blob and become utterly useless for good. tongue.gif
Ah, loyalty. Reminds me of Bradley calling Riza as "Mustang's loyal dog". Wait, Roy is technically a "military dog" isn't he? And Riza is his dog...and Hayate is her dog...am I sensing a pattern here? XD

@Kale: Yay, more merchandise. Those are cute happy.gif
black~hayate
Yeah, that dog quote was pretty mean! I bet, Bradley is just all jealous about the good couple! I mean, he must work as the fuhrer and the badass, so I'm sure he has not enough time to spend with his wife biggrin.gif So he's all jealous because Roy and Riza spend their time so productive together, saving the country for example biggrin.gif
shanryelric
QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Jan 21 2010, 07:27 AM) *
QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Jan 20 2010, 12:50 PM) *
Urrrgh I went to Forbidden Planet today to look for the Roy keychain and it's gone now... replaced by Soul Eater and Bleach stuff... Then I trekked to Kinokuniya but couldn't find anything. I'm suddenly craving that Roy keychain I found, so I'll probably search online and buy it that way!


I got these last Saturday:


These were in a box with various other phone straps and keychains.

Also, welcome to all the new Royai members.

oh my god it's freaking cute. I ENVY YOU!! for god's sake i envy YOU!!! T.T so unfair...
jacksparrow589
I think the whole "dog" thing is damning with faint praise. While it's certainly no compliment to be called a dog, well... I think Roy says it best: "Dogs embody loyalty! They follow their master's commands above all else! Be a jerk to them and they don't complain and they never once beg for a paycheck! Trust me, Fuery, they're the great servants of man! Loy-al ca-nine, how we salute thee! Mwahahahahahahaha!" (i.e. People like dogs.)

...Wait. I think I just meant the first part: "Dogs embody loyalty". For what it's worth, Bradley's noticed that much, and I think he respects that in his own way. I mean, he splits the whole team up because he can't very well make them turn against each other--they're too loyal for that.

But yeah, you walk a fine line when comparing people to dogs.
FailToImpress
QUOTE (DoxyWings @ Jan 19 2010, 09:22 PM) *
Well, I'm not going to speculate much... but I don't know, I have a bad feeling that Roy is going to get hurt even more. We still have to wait and see what happens... and well, I think either the next chapter or the one after will be the one where 'the final showdown' starts. And mmm... yeah... Roy... I just don't see him actively participating in anything major, apart from the occaisonal 'He's behind you!'. But meh, Arakawa will probably pull something dramatic out of the hat...


I can see that happening, actually...
I really, really don't think Riza will be his eyes, and Roy will still somehow be able to use his fire like people have thought... it's just impractical and wouldn't work. I keep wondering what'll happen now but I guess all I can do is wait. cool.gif
Anyarel
I liked all the Royai moments there's been in the manga recently! =D

Especially when (after being saved by Mei-chan) Riza is hugged by Roy and when he says he's sorry!
It's so touching, it really feels like she's his precious woman! =)
black~hayate
QUOTE (Anyarel @ Jan 25 2010, 12:02 AM) *
I liked all the Royai moments there's been in the manga recently! =D

Especially when (after being saved by Mei-chan) Riza is hugged by Roy and when he says he's sorry!
It's so touching, it really feels like she's his precious woman! =)


Yeah! That was awesome. It was like the 100th proof that official Royai is official!
Anyarel
Yeah, I can't understand why some people think that their relationship is only a colonel-lieutenant one.
It's obvious that there's way more about it than that. And I can't any other pairing.
Maybe HavocxRiza could be possible IF Roy didn't exist. But since Roy is here and since their feelings toward each other are so strong and so subtle IMO there's no place for any other pairing.
RoyxEd is just a joke, even I like it in fanart/doujin/fanfic (as I like yaoi *__*).
But RoyxRiza is the best pairing anyway and I think it's canon, even if it hadn't been explicitly said! ^^
black~hayate
QUOTE (Anyarel @ Jan 25 2010, 03:58 PM) *
But RoyxRiza is the best pairing anyway and I think it's canon, even if it hadn't been explicitly said! ^^


It just doesn't need to be said xD
We're not blind, we see that unlike Roy
ramencat
@ Tombow: Thank you!

The dog thing might be an insult... but for Bradley, dogs are probably surperior to humans. tongue.gif
FMAobsessed
I agree with you Anyarel, Roy and Riza are the best couple ever. They do not need lovey-dovey scenes for it to be official. Although I wouldn't mind a kiss if that happened. And for those who say it will be out of character, all I can respond to that, is it is Arakawa, she hasn't dissappointed us yet, so I don't think she will in the end with the Roy and Riza relationship.
Anyarel
black hayate > I was just expressing my love for this pairing! XDDD

FMAobsessed > in the first anime, they end up being together and it wasn't disappointing so I guess Arakawa-sensei can make an even less disappointing ending in the manga! Maybe just a bit more explicit, even if it was enough explicit for me.
Well, it's a bit like when Sakura was feeding Sasuke at the hospital's in Naruto. It's the sort of things a woman does for her lover and I couldn't picture Riza doing it if they had only a professional relationship.

So if it happened in the anime (and it didn't look OOC!), it can happen in the manga and there will nothing shocking.
Roy will be the same as he is now. Same for Riza. Because they're already in love with each other.
Then, no change in their attitude! Their love'll just be more concrete! =D
Katya Martin
I don't know, I don't actually much like the way the first anime wrapped it up, because it seems like "oh gosh they're LIVING TOGETHER" and then it turns out not to have lasted. It also didn't work as well because their pasts were not properly established in the first anime.

I feel like we'll get some sort of concrete "yes, they do love and need each other" from the end of the manga, but Arakawa will manage to make it entirely natural. I doubt we'll see them kissing, say, because it's out of character for them to do that-- when there's people around (people possibly including the "narrator") but that and more will be implied.

Whatever happens, it'll be an awesome ending, I'm sure.
Kale Mustang
QUOTE (Anyarel @ Jan 25 2010, 03:07 PM) *
in the first anime, they end up being together and it wasn't disappointing so I guess Arakawa-sensei can make an even less disappointing ending in the manga!


Wait what? As I recall from the end of Anime1, they never 'got together' but rather, it looked like Riza allowed Roy to stay at her place to take care of him. Even the shot of them walking through the open-air market, didn't really seem like they were a couple, but rather two friends walking through the market.

I mean, sure it looks like they might have gotten together, but I'm not entirely (nor will I assume) that they did.
jacksparrow589
I agree with Katya--We'll get something at the end about them, but as to what it might be... well, since Arakawa's so good at surprising us, I can't even begin to guess.

Although I suspect that if Roy remains as he is now, we'll get one of the sweetest moments ever. Just sayin'. And hopin'. smile.gif
Katya Martin
Heh. I think it would actually be nine kinds of awesome if he got his vision back at the end of the confrontation with Father, but perhaps was knocked unconscious, or warped out of the room, or whatever... and then when he regained consciousness/opened his eyes, Riza'd be the first thing he saw again.

I surprise myself with the amount of romantic cheese I can come up with sometimes.
jacksparrow589
Katya--But the cheese, it is so tasty! Especially when it's romantic! wink.gif What just killed it for me is that I was reminded of pretty much every magical girl anime I've ever seen. If giving our favorite couple a happy ending is priority 1, making it original enough is priority 1.5. Not saying I won't love any ending where Roy and Riza are happy together, but I really think Arakawa can pull off something slightly less cliched, or something amazingly cliched, but with her own spin on it. Like I said, though--I have no idea what to expect, but I know it's gonna be good!
The_Twilight_Trinity
QUOTE (Katya Martin @ Jan 25 2010, 08:52 PM) *
Heh. I think it would actually be nine kinds of awesome if he got his vision back at the end of the confrontation with Father, but perhaps was knocked unconscious, or warped out of the room, or whatever... and then when he regained consciousness/opened his eyes, Riza'd be the first thing he saw again.

I surprise myself with the amount of romantic cheese I can come up with sometimes.


Ahahaha! My fangirl cheese-loving mind is completely with you here. I was actually thinking that in a perfect world something like that might happen, but seeing as one of the points of FMA is that the world is NOT perfect (heheheh..... End of anime one.....) nothing this blatantly adorable will happen. Anyway, I'm sort of on the side of the fence that likes the idea of Roy staying blind but still becoming Fuhrer in the end, so the logical part of me doesn't want something like that to happen so out right. But at the same time..... I definitely see where you're coming from!
Katya Martin
Prediction for how it actually plays out:


(battle is ending)
Roy: Wh... I can see again!
Ed: Great! Busy! (fighting or some such)
Izumi: Excellent, that means that--
Roy: -looks up- Wait, who the frick are you?
(I've been wondering for a while... Roy's never met Izumi before, has he? So from his viewpoint (gah not supposed to be a pun) she's just a voice in the dark, a hand on his shoulder, and someone strong enough to throw him. I can't imagine he particularly trusts her at the moment, except for the fact that the Elrics know her.)
hand-made-city
Katya, your description of how Roy must perceive Izumi cracks me up!!!
Katya Martin
Lol happy.gif
I was kind of wondering that seriously, too, actually; he has no idea who she is, the Elrics haven't named her, and the only reason he has to trust her is that they aren't attacking her. I wouldn't trust anyone whose voice I didn't recognize in his place. Of course, I'd also be curled up on the floor in fetal position screaming because being unable to see is one of my worst fears, but that's got nothing to do with anything...
Thalogens
Ohh chappie 104 in 2 weeks or so. Exciting :3 chp. 103 was painfully short, hopefully chp 104 will compensate o:
The hug a few chapters back was pretty major (considering Japanese culture and stuff) so I'm pretty content at the moment (not really), though another 'almost-public-display-of-affection-but-not-quite-because-it's-Royai-and-Royai-isn't-like-any-other-romance-scene' would be brilliant. I'm looking forward to Riza finding out about that something.
And on that something... ehhh, I'm still in two minds D:
Ahh yes... Roy/Riza is by far my all time favourite couple in anything ever, ever. It's the fact that they're so subtle yet so blatantly obvious that makes the pairing so appealing.
hand-made-city
@Katya: I actually imagine that Roy would trust her. He knows that she's fighting on the same side he is, and he probably realized that she tossed him around to keep him out of danger. He hasn't been injured since he wound up in Father's lair, so he must have put two and two together. Also, when the chimeras came with Mei they simply said they were allies and Roy accepted that. Of course, he was a bit frantic with Riza the way she was, but still, I think he's already reasoned who the enemies are. I think he's okay with Izumi, rough as she can be.

Anyway, I hope Riza and Roy reunite in chapter 104, but I don't think it's going to happen just yet. I hope it does, but I'm thinking it would happen in 105 or something. Right now, other battles have to wrap themselves up before Riza and Roy can reunite again, perhaps... *shrugs*
FailToImpress
QUOTE (Katya Martin @ Jan 25 2010, 11:49 PM) *
I feel like we'll get some sort of concrete "yes, they do love and need each other" from the end of the manga, but Arakawa will manage to make it entirely natural. I doubt we'll see them kissing, say, because it's out of character for them to do that-- when there's people around (people possibly including the "narrator") but that and more will be implied.

Whatever happens, it'll be an awesome ending, I'm sure.


A very big part of me wants them NOT to get together at the end, actually. I don't want it to be a totally happy ending. I love the thought of them together but I can't see it happening so easily. I like open ends and bittersweet endings. tongue.gif
jacksparrow589
Fail-to-Impress--An ending like that would absolutely KILL me. I like endings where we have to imagine a little, but not THAT much.

Katya--I tend to think that Roy's probably heard of Izumi, if just from the Elrics, and with the way she just kinda tossed him aside, and the fact that she's there as a sacrifice to begin with, I think he'd be able to put two and two together. I can see it more as...

Roy: "You're not at all how they described you. Even I was scared of you!"
*gets pwned by Izumi*
Izumi: "And you should be!"
Anyarel
QUOTE (DoxyWings @ Jan 26 2010, 07:46 PM) *
The hug a few chapters back was pretty major (considering Japanese culture and stuff)


The manga is japanese, as well as Arakawa-sensei but Amestris is german-like so maybe the hug isn't something pretty major in Amestris ? =(
But well, a lot of characters' attitude is japanese-like, especially when it's about love.
I mean, if FMA was IRL in Europe/America, Ed and Winry would already be together, as well as Roy and Riza! XD

They're so shy. It's funny because it looks like a majority of manga characters are virgins and without love experience until the very end of the manga.

But I guess it's not the case for adult characters...But I don't care about Roy and Riza's experience. Both of them can still be virgins for all I care (but I guess they're not, especially Roy!XD), what I want them to do is to end up together...But how long is it gonna take them to declare their love?! =(

I'm sure it's already been years and years that they hold feelings toward each other, maybe not real love at first but at least something, even when Roy was Mr Hawkeye's student. I'm sure Riza was already looking up to him! =P

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