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jacksparrow589
OMGLIZLIVES! (I was wondering when you were gonna show up! Glad to see you again!) I totally want Scar to help them out, too! I did notice the lack of physical restraint, but dismissed that as, "The guy can deconstruct anything, and if you're hanging onto him, you're well within range."

(I WAS going to post this about 1/2 hour ago, but I hit something on my stupid laptop keyboard, and it deleted my entire post. I rewrote it, and then I managed to somehow shut down the internet this time! I was seething!)

Gimpy--Loved the comic! I can totally see Livvy doing that to piss Roy off, even if there wasn't a reassignment! (I'm pretty sure Riza's said Livvy's not fond of her, though.)

Kaleidoscope--Hey there, and welcome! This thread’s about as close to a vigil as you’re going to get for the next month, I think. As it is, we're always coming up with "Hey, remember when...?" and "Does this foreshadow anything that hasn't come to pass?", always posting fanart and fanfic, and generally discussing Royai.

And speaking of foreshadowing... Okay, when Riza met Pride, Pride agreed that it would be useless to kill Riza at that point. My question: was it JUST at that point, or does that hold true for the entire manga? Either way, Riza's going to have a rough time of it next chapter (like she isn't already), considering Dr. Creepydude (as proxy of Father) wants the Gate open. The theory's out there that he’ll just keep on healing her and torturing her. Likely? I think so, as that would be more likely to drive Roy crazy. Riza's no good to them dead--they've lost their leverage, and I'd wager that Roy could keep a relatively level head, at least so that he wouldn't try to resurrect her. And knowing that a Philosopher's Stone could run out and Riza would die if it did would have Roy trying to figure out how much time he has left.

And now... I have no idea where I was going with that, other than that trying to guess what magic Arakawa's gonna do next is a waste of time. It'll surprise us all, though, THAT much I’'m sure of.
Causmicfire
Good to see you around here. Liz!

Nice comic Gimpy, love Buccaneer there.
heartwing713
I really wish they would give us some more backstory on Roy and Riza's childhood. They set it up to be explained with Madame Christmas and with the shot of Hawkeye-Sensei dying, then they never gave us anything more! What age were Roy and Riza when Roy came to study there? They were obviously at least somewhat close, since Riza followed him into the military, and Roy was there for the funeral and all. And also that line of his "Even this girl has gotten the killer's eyes". Seriously, Arakawa, fill in the backstory for us poor deprived Royai fans! sad.gif
The_Twilight_Trinity
QUOTE (angelofsarcasm89 @ Oct 11 2009, 06:13 PM) *
I was actually wondering if something like that wouldn't pop up in Chapter 101. Riza's bleeding, Roy's trying to decide what to do, and then it shows a couple of flashbacks from when they were younger as he's thinking...
I'd love it and EEEEEEEE like crazy.


I thought that this might happen too. Either from when they were young or some unseen Ishval flashback.... But that would be amazing. Some extra anime only Royai in the Ishval ep would be sooo awesome too! But I think that there's probably too little time, sadly. Plus, we already got some anime-only Royai with Bradly/Wrath's statement: "She can be used to get to you." I know it wasn't a lot, but It's probably the max on anime-only Royai that we're likely to get in the Ishval episode.
Gimpyhair
About Roy and Riza's meeting, I've been thinking...
How did Roy came in contact with papa-Hawkeye? I have my own little theory.
If we go back in chapter 62 ( http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/62/43/ ), we see that Chris Mustang knows Grumman. Grumman is Riza's grand-father. So I assume that Chris Mustang and Grumman knew each other from some times ago. She might have asked Grumman if his son-in-law (I always assumed that Grumman is from Riza's mother side of the family...) could teach Roy alchemy.
Makika
I really like your theory, Gimpyhair biggrin.gif I'm with you...
And btw, I laugh a lot with your 2 last deviantions (the final one of the fill in the blank / the real threat)
Great job biggrin.gif
Kaleidoscope
Thanks everybody!
and oh my gosh angelofsarcasm I would love some Royai flashback in the next chapter! I really want more of their back story.
but then I'd probably start crying, and I never cry at books/movies etc.

And Gimpyhair, I like your theory too, and your comics!
CodenameElizabeth
Liz has been sick... like "out of work, spending hours in the ER with a morphine drip" sick. So, yeah. Internets taking a backseat here.
It's ok. Old People like me get sick sometimes.

But feeling positive that Riza is NOT DEAD YET!

(BTW, Awesome comics, Gimpy. I LOLd...)
tina870824
I still think about Lust's sentence which was directed to Mustang (chapter 39): "I lost. (...). Those eyes that look straight ahead without losing their way. I like them. It would be fun, the day those eyes would be bathed in suffering... soon...". This could be a preview of events from chapter 100?She already knew about everything? Arakawa doesn't draw accidental scenes...
Michiyo-
Does anyone else think that the underground oath from chapter 87 may be mentioned in the next chapter? Roy’s only order to his subordinates was “Don’t die!” So maybe Riza will apologize to Roy that she couldn’t fulfill her promise. (But of course Roy saves her and she will live! biggrin.gif)
And I keep thinking about Roy’s line from chapter 93, when he said he wants to see Riza’s tears again. Maybe he will see them now? So it was another foreshadowing scene.

BTW, Gimpy, your comics are awesome! biggrin.gif
jacksparrow589
Liz--Awww... sorry to hear you've been sick. Even my raging head cold hasn't kept me from classes, although my roommate may or may not have caught it...

Gimpy--Interesting theory! I like it!

tina870824--It's a foregone conclusion that Lust's foreshadowed pretty much all of this. At least, it is in my mind. She knew the plan, and with how Roy and Riza acted around each other, she could probably get whatever she needed to to make a statement like that.

Michiyo---I was so focused on Roy's pledge not to let someone else die that I'd completely forgotten about that! Definitely possible! Dunno about Riza's tears, though. I think he might've just been having fun with her there.
Gimpyhair
QUOTE (tina870824 @ Oct 12 2009, 09:32 AM) *
I still think about Lust's sentence which was directed to Mustang (chapter 39): "I lost. (...). Those eyes that look straight ahead without losing their way. I like them. It would be fun, the day those eyes would be bathed in suffering... soon...". This could be a preview of events from chapter 100?She already knew about everything? Arakawa doesn't draw accidental scenes...


I always thought this was more about what happened in chapter 95.
Forsaken Love
well remembered tina-san! I forgot about that scene, maybe your right, thinking about it Lust did seem convinced Roy would suffer soon, maybe she did know the potential plan
black~hayate
QUOTE (Gimpyhair @ Oct 12 2009, 05:22 PM) *
QUOTE (tina870824 @ Oct 12 2009, 09:32 AM) *
I still think about Lust's sentence which was directed to Mustang (chapter 39): "I lost. (...). Those eyes that look straight ahead without losing their way. I like them. It would be fun, the day those eyes would be bathed in suffering... soon...". This could be a preview of events from chapter 100?She already knew about everything? Arakawa doesn't draw accidental scenes...


I always thought this was more about what happened in chapter 95.


What is more forgettable/bad/painful?
Being a little rage-consumed and been bringing back to normal with the help of a beautiful woman OR see someone you truly care about being almost killed?
FMAobsessed
I hope that you feel better Liz.

Also I remember reading Arakawa's comments in the first artbook, and she said "I had the fate of Mustang's group planned from the beginning." I really hope she didn't plan Riza's death from the beginning.

I thought of a way Arakawa could torture us in the next chapter. Which would be have the first pages be of Winry baking a pie. Then switching to the drama of Al, and Roy and Riza. I like Winry but I think I would flip if I saw her in the first pages of the chapter. I would want to know what was going on with Roy and Riza.

I can't believe the chapter only came out a few days ago! I need the next chapter now!
Alzea
QUOTE (FMAobsessed @ Oct 12 2009, 09:05 PM) *
Also I remember reading Arakawa's comments in the first artbook, and she said "I had the fate of Mustang's group planned from the beginning." I really hope she didn't plan Riza's death from the beginning.
Nah, me too. But still I hope that she won't because of this
QUOTE (Hiromu Arakawa - March issue of SGG)
I want the characters who've worked so hard to be happy, and I want to properly give the characters who will be defeated in battle their own place to end.
Roy just as Riza are hard working, I'm sure of it, they already suffered a lot and so I hope Arakawa will do what she said, yeah, October will be fa positive thinking month for me~
RoyxRizaFan4ever
I did NOT like that chapter. sad01_anim.gif
hand-made-city
QUOTE (FMAobsessed @ Oct 12 2009, 08:05 PM) *
Also I remember reading Arakawa's comments in the first artbook, and she said "I had the fate of Mustang's group planned from the beginning." I really hope she didn't plan Riza's death from the beginning.


Noooo oh gosh my heart just sank. Now instead of thinking positively, I'm going to start thinking that Arakawa always meant to kill Riza or something, and THAT is a treacherous thought. sad.gif Lets hope she's not talking about Riza's death as part of this "fate". I'd be heartbroken all over again!
Kale Mustang
QUOTE (FMAobsessed @ Oct 12 2009, 12:05 PM) *
Also I remember reading Arakawa's comments in the first artbook, and she said "I had the fate of Mustang's group planned from the beginning." I really hope she didn't plan Riza's death from the beginning.


Whoa there... I believe when she made that comment, it was in reference as to how the group would be split up - not as in how she was planning their deaths or anything.

No sense at jumping at every little thing.
DistantBlue
Don't remember who said this and when, but SOMEONE had a thought - Hawkeye paid Mustang back for breaking down and losing the will to fight during Ch.39 by stopping him from losing himself in Ch.95. Mustang still has to pay Hawkeye back for the events in Ch.94. Whoever said this said this maybe during Ch.98/9, so...thought I'd share that. XD

But I'm thinking back to the 'Don't Die' promise and such....

Gimpy - Love the comic! XD

QUOTE
Also I remember reading Arakawa's comments in the first artbook, and she said "I had the fate of Mustang's group planned from the beginning." I really hope she didn't plan Riza's death from the beginning.


This makes me think reaaaaaaally negatively.

'Fate' makes me think we're gonna lose at least one of them. Not Hawkeye or Fuery plz. D:
angelofsarcasm89
QUOTE (Alzea @ Oct 12 2009, 02:54 PM) *
Nah, me too. But still I hope that she won't because of this
QUOTE (Hiromu Arakawa - March issue of SGG)
I want the characters who've worked so hard to be happy, and I want to properly give the characters who will be defeated in battle their own place to end.
Roy just as Riza are hard working, I'm sure of it, they already suffered a lot and so I hope Arakawa will do what she said, yeah, October will be fa positive thinking month for me~

You just gave me enough hope to make it through the month.
Gimpyhair
QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Oct 12 2009, 06:09 PM) *
Whoa there... I believe when she made that comment, it was in reference as to how the group would be split up - not as in how she was planning their deaths or anything.

No sense at jumping at every little thing.


Me too thought you were talking about life-or-dead fate, anyway, I'm glad to see you meant split-up fate!


Thanks everyone for comic-comments!
FMAobsessed
I feel bad that my Arakawa having the fate of Mustang's group planned out comment scared everyone. But Kale is right. Looking back on the comment, it was just for the group spliiting up. But I feel that Arakawa doesn't do anything by accident in her manga. But there is so much details in the past chapters that make it clear to me that Riza has to live. It could also be that I am a rabid Royai fangirl and I want them together at the end.


Doesn't it feel like for the longest time, Arakawa wasn't having Roy do anything? But then he goes berserk in chapter 94. Now he has to see Riza get her throat slit. This poor guy is being tortured here.
The_Twilight_Trinity
I don't know how Roy could go on to become the Fuhrer of Amestris without Riza. I mean, of course he could, but wouldn't it just seem wrong? Plus, since Roy is so deeply affected by death, as evidenced with Hughes, it stands to reason that he wouldn't be able to function properly for a long time after her death. It would probably take him months or even years to get back on track again. That's the way I see it anyway.
jacksparrow589
At this point, regardless of my love for Royai, it just plain doesn't make sense to me to kill Riza. Ed, Al, Roy, Havoc, Scar, and Kimblee have all survived through impossible circumstances, some of them more than once, and most of them right after cliff-hangers, if memory serves. Maes's death had a different feel to it--Envy had shot him at point-blank range and there was no help around. We all knew he had no chance. Riza's still got at least one chance left, I believe.
Irena
QUOTE (The_Twilight_Trinity @ Oct 12 2009, 05:42 PM) *
I don't know how Roy could go on to become the Fuhrer of Amestris without Riza. I mean, of course he could, but wouldn't it just seem wrong? Plus, since Roy is so deeply affected by death, as evidenced with Hughes, it stands to reason that he wouldn't be able to function properly for a long time after her death. It would probably take him months or even years to get back on track again. That's the way I see it anyway.


I imagine that he'd still keep on going, because giving up would just set him back. And besides, he knows that she promised to shoot/severely threaten him if he strays off his path; he wouldn't forget that promise in the event of her death - if anything, he'd remember it more than ever.


Of course there's also the worrisome possibility that he won't ever get a shot at being Fuhrer, if we remember what Riza was telling Ed:
"A hero in violent times will become only a mass murderer when placed in a peaceful world."
"So the Colonel realizes this yet he's still aiming for the top? Isn't that the path to suicide?!"
The_Twilight_Trinity
QUOTE (Irena @ Oct 12 2009, 07:59 PM) *
I imagine that he'd still keep on going, because giving up would just set him back. And besides, he knows that she promised to shoot/severely threaten him if he strays off his path; he wouldn't forget that promise in the event of her death - if anything, he'd remember it more than ever.


Good point. But her death would make it incredibly hard for him to move on. He would, for sure, but it would be very painful. I didn't realize that my earlier post suggested that I thought he would never become Fuhrer if Riza died because I think he will no matter what the outcome with Riza will be. I just meant that I thought it would take him a long time to recuperate after the loss of Riza. Man.... Poor Roy just has the toughest life.

Riza.... You better pull through....

Plus, what would happen to Black Hayate?
CodenameElizabeth
QUOTE (The_Twilight_Trinity @ Oct 12 2009, 10:20 PM) *
Plus, what would happen to Black Hayate?


Get Furey to adopt him... or Roy...

Anyway, I actually kind of HOPE the death is FOR REALS GUYZ. But I REALLY don't think this it will happen. It seems like too much to ask. (For a very developed character to die.) Arakawa has developed Riza in such a way that we KNOW she is more valuable alive. As a pawn to manipulate Roy.

It would be a shock to a lot of fans to see her die. I kind of hope Arakawa has the balls to make it real.
(Just think of all of the messed up cosplay ideas I could come up with for next year's con-season. OMG LOLZ SPOILERZ.)
_Jelly
Why are people shocked that Arakawa plansher stuff before she makes it happen? I thought that's what people do before they do ANYTHING. Dont tell me you guys thought she woke up last week and thought "I think I'll slice and dice some Riza today."


Anyway I'm kind of hoping it's for real too, otherwise I'll feel so jibbed lol. I dont see how she'll be saved either since human transmutation doesnt work, clearly. Just hope Arakawa doesnt go Dragonball or Naruto on us or something. Besides, from where I'm sitting, Riza only seems to be in Roy's way. I swear he's saved her more times ... from 3 different Homunculus and everytime she's near him, he tries to go out of his way to help her. Not saying that's particularly bad, it just looks troublesome. smile.gif

Yar i went thar guyz
SneakyRuler
QUOTE (JELEE @ Oct 13 2009, 11:51 AM) *
Anyway I'm kind of hoping it's for real too, otherwise I'll feel so jibbed lol. I dont see how she'll be saved either since human transmutation doesnt work, clearly.


Human transmutation doesn't work on dead people. If Roy transmuted Riza now, still alive, it would work (supposing he'd be quick enough to draw a circle he saw only once and that he'd somehow succeed to get the guys with swords out of way). I know killing Riza would be brave and everything and be it other manga and other character I'm not so attached to I would secretly wish for something bad to happen to one of main characters... but Riza? NO WAY!! T_T

But honestly, the forward planning scared me. If Arakawa planned to kill Riza off from the very beginning, there's no way she would back from the original idea only because so many fans love Riza...

*mumbles* positive thinking positive thinking positive thinking
paca
Waiting for chapter 101 is already killing me OoO!!

hi everyboodyyyy~~~!! *waves*

We knew somehow something was going to happen... I mean like you said Lust asked for "that day, and the eyes with no-determination aka torment"... which is worst for and alchemist than death, they look into their hands and found nothing but desesperation...and to make matters worst he has to choose (no more firm eyes and an acctitude of "I KNOW WHAT TO DO") in some way to save her, or become a sacrifice-> "help them"..... anyway if he is not the 5th one some other will fill in the blank, the door will be opened and one of them or both will die in vain -not very Arakawa- tongue.gif

I was thinking that the tattoo could make a difference or some twist but just reading a part f the new guide all my hopes were vanished :
Q6.
How far did Mustang decipher the secret of Master Hawkeye?
A6.
Of course, he already completed to decipher all secrets, as a result, he worked out the transmutation circle which is written on his glove for himself. The pictorial cut on Hawkeye's back isn't equal to Mustang's circle, and the analysis of component in the atmosphere and how to coordinate concentration of oxygen, and various things were in the pictorial cut. Certainly if the glove gets wet, he can't use the way which burns the dust in the air, but it's possible to transform water into oxygen if the circle is kept.



will he open the door, the story must go on and Fatehr needs his 5th sacrifece D: .....

.... apart from that I just have to say that it may be a little bit over dramatic to kill her, why?:
Ok, she is one of those characters that nobody told her something like "I will be wait" or anykind of promise for the future...but:
-Sensei Hawkeye asked him to protect her -as his lasts words -
-She is somehow in danger because of "his fault" .... ok , not that I think that but surely Roy thinks that...
-He asked some of his team -Riza was there- not to die!
The_Twilight_Trinity
I can understand why people do think that Arakawa should kill off Riza, and in some ways I even agree. I think that the story might be somehow more realistic (in a sense...) if Riza dies. I mean, not everyone is going to survive especially not based on popularity. And considering her circumstances.... Without alchemy, she would be dead for sure. Even with alchemy it's not guaranteed that she's going to be okay, though I do agree that human transmutation might work while she is still living. As for a circle, I'm pretty sure Dr. Evil would have had something prepared already (but I'm not positive), considering that they're running out of time for the plan.... I think it all hangs on Roy's choice.

Despite my semi-agreement with those who think FMA would be a better story if Riza died, I'm still very, very hesitant to accept that as her fate yet. Both because there is logic against her death and because she's one of my favorite characters of all time. Losing her would be painful. I'm just trying to prepare myself for the worst while still trying to remain at least somewhat optimistic..... I really don't think it's working much, though.

Turdaewen
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Oct 12 2009, 10:07 PM) *
At this point, regardless of my love for Royai, it just plain doesn't make sense to me to kill Riza. Ed, Al, Roy, Havoc, Scar, and Kimblee have all survived through impossible circumstances, some of them more than once, and most of them right after cliff-hangers, if memory serves. Maes's death had a different feel to it--Envy had shot him at point-blank range and there was no help around. We all knew he had no chance. Riza's still got at least one chance left, I believe.

That's a GOOD point... XD

Really, now that the dust died out, I don't think Riza will die AT ALL. I'm not even sure she's THAT much hurt.
I agree that it could make things more realistic, but, at the same time, FMA is quite realistic as it is: many people have died already. Hughes was in the Top 5 most popular when he died. So, I don't think popularity is an issue, but, at the same time, killing Riza just for the sake of it is just not-Arawaka-like as it is to make some cliché ending with everyone surviving and being happy.
If Riza dies, it will be for a reason and not just for the sake of 'reality in the story'.
I guess that this 'is her fate' thing is just what I think is quite irritating: people trying to 'figure out' Arakawa's mind before she plays it out to us. It seems rather arrogant and pointless! I prefer a lot more to wait and see what she'll do next and how she's going to solve everything than trying to be the 'clairvoyant' in all this just to say 'I told you so' in the end. (even because that's very far-fetched)
Kale Mustang
Again, despite the fact that Father, Goldie, the Homunculi, and the rest of their cronies are rather ruthless in their tactics, they are also quite pragmatic about how they go about their business. Sure they're more than willing to kill to get their point across, but the fact of the matter is that they will kill to benefit them.

In Roy's case - killing Riza may not even have an affect on him possibly opening the Gate because he knows that it's stupid and pointless, so I'm sure that Goldie realizes that killing is a bad option too - but keeping Riza alive and torturing her may be a good option to him. I honestly think that it hurts more to feel powerless and helpless as someone you care about is slowly hurt versus them just dying, as once a person is dead, they won't suffer anymore.

Makes sense?
jacksparrow589
Kale--Agreed.

I think I've come to the point that, while it would be difficult, I could accept Riza's death if it made sense to the storyline, which is the only way it's going to happen.

But I've found yet another thing that doesn't make sense: Riza told Ed that she hasn't really been officially punished for Ishbal. I feel like if she died now, that loose end wouldn't be tied up. Small, I know, but it made sense in my head...

I think I'm just gonna stop guessing. I'm too exhausted to think this over anymore.
RoyxRizaFan
This is the same thing I wrote in another thread, but it's pretty much all I want to say here as well:

I'm convincing myself it wasn't a fatal cut because that would make no sense. There's no way Roy's preforming human transmutation. He knows it doesn't work, and they'd be...this sounds bad, but 'wasting' Riza if they killed her, since it's not going to work. It's still extremely nerve racking, though, because I don't know what's going to happen to her. I just have to keep faith because I know that Roy will do whatever he can to keep her alive. I can't imagine what kind of state he'd be in if he lost Riza as well, after all that's happened. He already feels as if he's dragged her into this life, and if she ended up dying because of it, I don't know how he'd live with himself.

He has to, though.... He can never give up because of the 520 cenz promise.

I'm wondering how the whole Envy vs. Roy thing is going to tie into all of this. I'm thinking there must be something in there that was either foreshadowing or is going to connect to this somehow. I feel bad that he's gone through this and the Envy thing all in one day XD

Kale Mustang
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Oct 13 2009, 03:34 PM) *
But I've found yet another thing that doesn't make sense: Riza told Ed that she hasn't really been officially punished for Ishbal. I feel like if she died now, that loose end wouldn't be tied up. Small, I know, but it made sense in my head...


I'd agree with this to a point as well - for the survivors of Ishval, just living would probably serve as a reminder and that when they sleep at night, I'm sure the memories come back at them. And that I'm pretty sure would be punishment enough, but for both Roy and Riza...only through judgement by their peers for their actions during the war do they believe that they can finally be set free.
The_Twilight_Trinity
I'm really glad that all of you are so adamant. Seriously, whenever I'm feeling negative about this whole thing, I'll come on here and get reassurance. Of course we won't be completely sure until next month, but after reading these past few posts, I feel a bit better. biggrin.gif

Man, I just wish it were next month already....
Irena
QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Oct 13 2009, 03:47 PM) *
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Oct 13 2009, 03:34 PM) *
But I've found yet another thing that doesn't make sense: Riza told Ed that she hasn't really been officially punished for Ishbal. I feel like if she died now, that loose end wouldn't be tied up. Small, I know, but it made sense in my head...


I'd agree with this to a point as well - for the survivors of Ishval, just living would probably serve as a reminder and that when they sleep at night, I'm sure the memories come back at them. And that I'm pretty sure would be punishment enough, but for both Roy and Riza...only through judgement by their peers for their actions during the war do they believe that they can finally be set free.


Agreed! And didn't somebody (I think it was Marcoh) say something like "after ending so many peoples' lives without their consent, there's no way we can go and die so easily"? I can't remember.

Also, something I've noticed so far is that if Arakawa is planning to kill a character, there usually isn't much doubt as to whether or not they'll survive. If there's a cliffhanger of sorts, they've got a better chance of living.

Of course we all know FMA is anything but predictable, but like others have said killing Riza doesn't make much sense right now, although that doesn't mean something won't happen in the next chapter to change that.
RoyxRizaFan
If I didn't visit these forums, I probably would be a lot more frantic right now. Everyone makes really good points as to why she can't die yet.

- She promised Roy she wouldn't die
- Hawkeye Sensei asked him to protect Riza
- She hasn't 'payed' for Ishbal
- It doesn't make sense
- ROYAI IS TOTALLY CANNON AND ARAKAWA KNOWS IT

*ahem*

I made a new signature, too, in honor of the new chapter. I couldn't help it XD Hopefully I'll get around to drawing some uplifting RoyAi fan art to cheer us all up soon...unless AP English eats my soul X_X
jacksparrow589
Kale--Agh! I meant to say something about that, but I was having another conversation at the time, so I forgot. Yeah, they're all feeling the pain of Ishbal by themselves.

Now, for Royai in Brotherhood... I noticed the brief Ishbal thing in the new opening, and it made me happy. I think most of it will be kept intact! (One of my favorite scenes is Roy getting pissed at Kimblee for harassing Riza.) Yeah... I just had to be positive in this post.
Kale Mustang
Despite being contained to only one episode (from what the released titles look like), I'm really looking forward as to how they handle the conflict. Seeing the bits and pieces in various episodes has me giddy with anticipation - and since it's so figured prominently in the new OP, I hope they do it justice.

I'm wondering though if they'll do the flashback with Roy, Riza, and Papa Hawkeye dying in the beginning of ep. 30...
FMAobsessed
I don't think that the cut on Riza's neck is fatal, but I do think that it is serious. I don't think she is going to stand up and be fine after something like that. I would kind of be disappointed if the wound was superficial. Because I really want to see how Roy reacts to Riza being hurt. We have already seen how Riza reacted when she heard that Roy was killed, and I have always wondered how Roy would react if he knew Riza had been injured.

This wait is killing me. I feel like doing what Cartman did in the South Park episode where he couldn't wait for the release of the Wii and decided to freeze himself until the release. I am sure my brother will wake me up for chapter 101.
RoyxRizaFan
I was just watching NCIS, and Ziva had such a Riza moment when she woke up and whiped out her gun from underneath her pillow the second she heard someone was in her room. Somehow I can picture Riza doing that, too.

As for Ishbal, they cannot cut anything because it is such an important storyline that explains why Roy, Riza, Hughes, Scar, Marcoh, Kimblee, Knox, and even Amestria itself became what they are now. Not only is the RoyAi important to me as a fan girl, but also to the plotline and understanding how deep their bond goes. I doubt they'll add a stupid episode about Hoho dancing around a fire and then cut scenes from one of Arakawa's most well written storylines.

I hope they keep the scene when Riza decides to join the military as well as when Hawkeye-Sensei dies. Perhaps it just won't all be in the same episode.
Causmicfire
QUOTE (JELEE @ Oct 13 2009, 02:51 AM) *
Why are people shocked that Arakawa plansher stuff before she makes it happen? I thought that's what people do before they do ANYTHING. Dont tell me you guys thought she woke up last week and thought "I think I'll slice and dice some Riza today."


You can actually ask quite a few authors who thoroughly plan things out, and most will tell you sometimes a decision they thought they had already made changes when they're in the midst of writing it.

Sure, we plan, but a good story/character will take the author to places they don't always expect. She could have had something else planned, then decided she didn't like it that way, or her editor could have sent it back saying it was too anti-climatic(though, I doubt it was that), and changed it. It could be anything from a small tweak to a big one. Especially considering the fact that she thought FMA wouldn't get past chapter 80 in the beginning. I don't recall the exact translation of what she said, but it was something along the lines of the characters still had more to their stories/ more to tell.

Anyway, I agree that she's usually pretty clear with character deaths.

As for the Ishval flashbacks, they already covered some parts with Scar and his brother in the last ep. They'll probably lead into Ishval after the Hawkeye-sensei's death, like in the manga. It would be odd not to explain the connection between Roy and Riza. Maybe the flashback to before Ishval will be in one episode and Ishval in the next, because technically the first part isn't Ishval. *is clinging to hope*

spectator
still, I somehow feel pessimistic with Riza's chance of surviving. From the manga and the way her blood gushed out, it was from the artery. I think that it would take just a few minutes before she lost all her blood. I hope that Arakawa sensei will 'revive' Riza if she did intend to 'kill' her.
Kale Mustang
QUOTE (spectator @ Oct 14 2009, 07:02 AM) *
still, I somehow feel pessimistic with Riza's chance of surviving. From the manga and the way her blood gushed out, it was from the artery. I think that it would take just a few minutes before she lost all her blood.


It's a shounen manga, so of course the blood's always gonna fly like that. I mean, I've seen that much blood fly from a fight in Bleach - and that always turned out to be a minor slash or a small cut. Also, like most head wounds, neck wounds can look worse than they really are.
Turdaewen
Noone dies that quickly from a neck wound. I mean, of course they die, but not THAT quick. Especially if their trachea is not cut. I mean, I get the shock everyone has been through, but, as always, I try to be as realistic and calm as possible. Freaking out won't help us figure out what's going to happen.

And, about Ishval, not only is not probable they cut Hawkeye-sensei's part: it's just plain impossible! Without that sequence, Roy's promise after Ishval makes no sense and, consequentially, the whole Envy dilemma makes no sense. Practically, Roy and Riza's entire relationship is explained by this part.
If they were to cut it, they would have to change the entire sequence of Ishval... and, since in the opening shows Riza in front of the Ishvalan kid's grave (when she asks Roy to burn her back), I'm practically 100% they won't change it.

I just hope they show Riza's back by the end of episode 29... it makes such a good cliffhanger for Ishval's Flashback! *.*
rinoaebastel
Im not sure, but in the new opening the "screen" of Riza is when she is asking Roy to burn her back. It appears that is when she is making a tomb. soo i think they will not cut that
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