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Michiyo-
^There's something about Roy&Riza there. That game definitely has Royai, which is awesome! biggrin.gif And it comes out the day after tomorrow, so very soon we'll have lots of pics and videos!

This is really a Royai week. Episode 19, chapter 98, the Wii game... Royai overload. biggrin.gif
The_Twilight_Trinity
QUOTE (Michiyo- @ Aug 11 2009, 09:32 AM) *
This is really a Royai week. Episode 19, chapter 98, the Wii game... Royai overload. biggrin.gif


So, very, very true! biggrin.gif It's a good week for Royai fans to be alive! Ha ha!

@hand-made-city-- Awesome job! I didn't think you would take me up on those suggestions, but you did great! She looks so much better now!
Turdaewen
Aww... I like purple. XD It's my favorite color. ^^ But I guess that picture doesn't really suits Riza... not only the look of the dress in it... but so many things.. XD She looks like a Marvel Heroine with that 'body definition'. lol

I actually have a similar cheongsam, as a matter of fact. XD It's not purple, though, and neither the traditional red (even though that's the color I wanted when I first bought it)... It's a sky blue ^^ So cute!! My friend's mother (who's chinese) didn't let me get the red, cause she insisted I was too young to wear that color, even though I was 17, back then. (go figure!)
black~hayate
QUOTE (paca @ Aug 11 2009, 05:23 PM) *
Hi!! *waves*
how are you all ????

-bones is making a great job with the anime xDDDDDDD. ist' it?- and now this awesome manga chapter! and the wii game is coming soon!
Talking about it, this Gangan edition was going to have a preview about it, wasn't it?
I found some "info" in a japanese blog ...and If I understood right xD, babelfish translator *cofcof* xD, you would like it !
"
鋼FA-暁の王子-
第6話 パーティスクランブル

・麗しい女性のサービスシーンが満載!?
・アルに恋の予感!?
・ホークアイとマスタングの関係は…

クラウディオの来訪と和平の成立を祝し、アームストロング家の屋敷で盛大なパーティが開催される。エド、アル、ウィンリィをはじめ、マスタングら軍人たちも宴に酔いしれ、親交を深めていく…。パーティのクライマックスを飾る花火に祝福されるベストカップルは、いったい誰と誰になるのか!?

第6話が面白そう(*´∀`*) 
少佐のサービスシーンはお断りしますwww
"


Here, that's what google translated. Surprisingly, the text is making a little bit of sense =D
Steel FA-Prince at dawn --
The party scrambled six story

Services scenes full of beautiful women! ?
Premonition of love Al! ?
Relationship between the Mustang and Hawkeye ... (My comment: YOU SEE???)

The establishment of peace and celebrate the visit of Claudio, a lavish party held at the residence of the Armstrong family. Ed, Al, and UINRII, drunk with the Mustang banquet and soldiers, to deepen the friendship. Couple to be celebrated in the best fireworks decorate the climax of the party, and anyone who would really! ?

The story sounds interesting 6 (* '∀ `*)
Major services are permitted scene www "
Turdaewen
You know, I've been thinking, I have the strongest feeling that Roy will indeed become a Führer in the end... There're too many scenes in the manga that appoint in that direction: Ed said he would only pay him back when he got to the top, the chat between Roy and Ling saying "It's good to have connections with the Xinguese Royalty"... it seems like Arakawa is preparing the set for Roy to take over.

I just hope Riza won't get killed in the process, cause I have a STRONG feeling that, if that whole 'Riza's death theory' is to become true, it's going to happen next month, on chapter 99. (Man, I'm really gonna kill Arakawa if she does that!! That would be really lame.)
The_Twilight_Trinity
QUOTE (Turdaewen @ Aug 11 2009, 10:05 AM) *
You know, I've been thinking, I have the strongest feeling that Roy will indeed become a Führer in the end... There're too many scenes in the manga that appoint in that direction: Ed said he would only pay him back when he got to the top, the chat between Roy and Ling saying "It's good to have connections with the Xinguese Royalty"... it seems like Arakawa is preparing the set for Roy to take over.

I just hope Riza won't get killed in the process, cause I have a STRONG feeling that, if that whole 'Riza's death theory' is to become true, it's going to happen next month, on chapter 99. (Man, I'm really gonna kill Arakawa if she does that!! That would be really lame.)


I agree that if he comes out of the battle alive, he will definitely become Fuhrer. You're right. There are too many hints pointing in this direction for it not to happen, really. So I think that it's really likely. Plus, I think that Roy has a far smaller chance of dying than Riza does. Lately, I've had this awful feeling that she's not going to make it. I really hope I'm wrong.... I would be so depressed if she died. I'm just not sure if it'll be to make Roy open the gate or not. Gah.... I just really really hope I'm wrong either way....

By the way, looking at the new scans, the doctor who made Bradley a Homunculus appears in the last panel with Roy, Riza and co.... It's not possible for Riza to become a new Lust is it? I'm pretty sure it's not, because Ling only became Greed because they had the philosopher's stone from the old Greed.... But I still can't help but worry that that could happen.
Forsaken Love
i really don't want riza to die! but im not gonna be surprised if she does actually, maybe if she died, he'd get really upset obviously and maybe the rest of his subordinates would be threatened with death, so then maybe in a moment of desperation to save them and not clearly thinking he'd transmute himself, but NOT to bring riza back, maybe in that sad moment wanting to end it and not caring anymore, and saving whoever was left would be a better reason for him to open the gate (but obviously he wouldnt die) thats slightly out of character I think for Roy, but everyone has moments of breakdown, and him opening the gate for those reasons is much more like roy than trying to bring riza back to life which i just cant see happening, yet riza is still the trigger in my theory XD

i really don't want riza to die but for some reason i scence an overall happy ending but with one tragic love story out of the prominate pairings, hope im wrong though wink.gif riza's epic
amestris_star
There were a million scenes where Riza was in the danger (and very close ones) of dying and she didn't, and same goes for Roy. The two stuck together through practically EVERYTHING, including the hell at Ishval, so, saying that Riza will die for Roy to open the portal and bla bla bla... no. I don't agree with that. And considering how much this is being mentioned by readers, fans and what have you... Arakawa will definitely not go through that path.

For heaven's sake, how on Earth can Roy be the Fuhrer of Amestris without the closest people by his side, and with the person that ultimately led him to where he is? I think he'd be the empty shell of the Roy Mustang that we know now. As what happened with Maes after all... if it weren't for Riza, I wonder if he would have continued in his path... probably it would have taken a warped up way (Chapter 95 says it all...) that would have led him to nothing. Without her all of he went through would be practically useless, personally. Maybe helped the country, yes... and its future, but not HIS future.

So, really, I can't stand all of this 'Riza may probably die' talk. Strangely enough, I'm positive that it won't happen. We really don't need another Maes Hughes in our path. The death of one comrade was more than enough.
Kale Mustang
Thank you amestris_star for that and I totally agree.

Having said all that, I doubt Arakawa-san would ever be that cliche as far as the main characters go.

Despite Maes being his best friend, he was always a secondary character while Riza, on the other hand has always been one of the mains (at least it seems like it to me).
spectator
Hmm... A lot of debate going on here. Personally, I feel that anything can happen but for now, I don't want to guess anything that might not happen at the end. I'm crossing my fingers and just hope that at the end will be a perfect hapiness for all the characters. wink.gif As usual, I'm an optimist.

By the way, do you guys have anymore news about the game? I'm dying to know the whole story. I wonder if the prince is having a crush on Riza.
amestris_star
QUOTE (spectator @ Aug 11 2009, 07:11 PM) *
Hmm... A lot of debate going on here. Personally, I feel that anything can happen but for now, I don't want to guess anything that might not happen at the end. I'm crossing my fingers and just hope that at the end will be a perfect hapiness for all the characters. wink.gif As usual, I'm an optimist wink.gif


And that's the right attitude about the situation, I mean, I accept all opinions... but... reading about it over and over again makes me a little bit frustrated with respect to the whole issue. Neither of them has to die, and neither of them will, I'm sure of that. Take Chapters 39 and 95, any one of them could have easily died there, but they didn't. Anyway, that's my opinion on the matter wink.gif

By the way, thanks for that Kale biggrin.gif

@spectator: Except for the info that paca posted, nothing much.
Turdaewen
Yeah... I'm almost positive she won't die to open the portal, as I've stated my reasons in the thread about that theory... but I mean, dying, really. Just dying.

And, no, Riza cannot become Lust because Lust was not reabsorbed by Father, she was destroyed. Which means, she cannot be reconstructed again. The part of Father's soul which contains the 'Lust' was already destroyed. (like a horcrux! lol)

I just have this strong feeling something really bad is coming next chapter (based on the last page of this one). And I'm kinda scared, actually, as to what it might be. Father and his plans frighten me! lol And the presence of both Riza and Scar makes me wonder, since they're not 'possible sacrifices'... what sort of role might they take other than becoming prey? And where the heck is May, btw... I'm just really... impressed by Arakawa right now, cause it's been a LONG while since anyone had made me so aprehensive and curious about something.

I can tell this month's waiting will be a lot worse than the one from the chap 94-95, for me... sad.gif Oh, God... :s

But you guys are right... it would be really mean of Arakawa to make Roy loose Riza after all that's happened. I mean, can't ANYTHING good happen in that guy's life?? It's just tragedy after tragedy. Of course, she's an autor that makes the story that contributes for the plot she's developing and that's the main thing (and that's why Hughes died: he had to, for the story to continue), but she's also not a mean person that goes on killing characters for the likes of it.
amestris_star
@Turdaewen: That's part of Arakawa's magic. She keeps you waiting, almost worries you for the outcome of the upcoming events (remember how we all were while waiting for 95, afraid that something would have happened to either of our two darlings?) She's a master storyteller and all of this trepidation is showing how damn good she is at all this.

And I'm sure Riza and Scar's presence will play an essential role in this whole situation. And... I think at this point, they don't really have to open the portal... to be sacrifices...
The_Twilight_Trinity
QUOTE (Turdaewen @ Aug 11 2009, 11:18 AM) *
And, no, Riza cannot become Lust because Lust was not reabsorbed by Father, she was destroyed. Which means, she cannot be reconstructed again. The part of Father's soul which contains the 'Lust' was already destroyed. (like a horcrux! lol)


Well that's a relief.... That would be terrible....

Ha ha! Homunculus/Horcrux comparison=WIN!
spectator
QUOTE (amestris_star @ Aug 11 2009, 12:22 PM) *
@Turdaewen: That's part of Arakawa's magic. She keeps you waiting, almost worries you for the outcome of the upcoming events (remember how we all were while waiting for 95, afraid that something would have happened to either of our two darlings?) She's a master storyteller and all of this trepidation is showing how damn good she is at all this.


She makes me, an amateur fanfic writer, feel more amatuer. I always try my best to think on the way she thinks to keep the characters be themselves. Sometimes, I was carried away and wrote something not like them at all. Anyway, it's really hard to know how they behave in certain situation. I usually end up sitting in front of my laptop and staring at the blank draft for hours. The most difficult person to write about, it's Riza, in my case. She's not a consistent character and it's really hard to make her behave like the one she is in the manga. 'No! She won't say that or do that!' or 'God! That's so not her!" every time I read my own work. I do have some improvement over time. I think rewatching the episodes and rereading the manga do help a lot. Hmmm.... What do you guys think?
RoyxRizaFan
Riza definitely can be hard to write because she has so many sides to her, and you only get to see certain ones at particular times.... That's what makes finding a good RoyAi fan fiction next to impossible (other than on this thread, since everyone here is so in tune with the manga that I haven't seen any OOC fics here)

Anyhow...

Fuhrer Roy = I don't know if we'll see him as Fuhrer at the end or not, but I think he will be, too. No offense, but I can't picture Olivia as the next Fuhrer. I can't see them working together, either, so I have no idea (Arakawa must have brought up her interest in the position for a reason, so IDK what she plans to do with that). Then we have to worry about the soldiers of Ishbal being punished, so it's kind of like a catch 22 in some ways.

And Riza, I always have that little bit of worry but for two reasons I'm keeping positive:
1. Roy already had a huge breakdown, and I don't think he'll be having another one two minutes later. I'm hoping he's back on track now.
2. Everything amestris star said, pretty much XD She worded it perfectly...

hand-made-city - Awesome job fixing Riza's picture! You just proved that it isn't hard to make a pretty, yet still IC image of Riza! lol

Thanks for that bit about the game, paca and Black Hayate! It certainly sounds promising...

jacksparrow589
About Riza possibly dying: RoyxRizaFan said basically everything I wanted to say. I feel like we're constantly being jerked around emotionally, but that's all part of the fun!

Roy as Fuehrer: I can see it. But, again, like RoyxRizaFan says, there's making Ishbal right. (Not that it can really be made right, but you get what I'm saying, I hope.)

Perhaps this is wishful thinking on my part, but I feel like they'll still both be alive and well in the end. Maybe not under the happiest of circumstances, but it just seems like things have come way too far to kill both of them off, let alone either one. Obviously, I have no really good basis for this other than my own convictions, but I'm still hoping!

And this game... I am liking the sound of it more and more. I probably will never play it, to be honest. I'll probably just find the cutscenes and go from there. I'm betting it'll be pretty amazing, though.
Aribelle
QUOTE (spectator @ Aug 11 2009, 11:11 AM) *
She makes me, an amateur fanfic writer, feel more amatuer. I always try my best to think on the way she thinks to keep the characters be themselves. Sometimes, I was carried away and wrote something not like them at all. Anyway, it's really hard to know how they behave in certain situation. I usually end up sitting in front of my laptop and staring at the blank draft for hours. The most difficult person to write about, it's Riza, in my case. She's not a consistent character and it's really hard to make her behave like the one she is in the manga. 'No! She won't say that or do that!' or 'God! That's so not her!" every time I read my own work. I do have some improvement over time. I think rewatching the episodes and rereading the manga do help a lot. Hmmm.... What do you guys think?

QUOTE (RoyxRizaFan @ Aug 11 2009, 12:29 PM) *
Riza definitely can be hard to write because she has so many sides to her, and you only get to see certain ones at particular times.... That's what makes finding a good RoyAi fan fiction next to impossible (other than on this thread, since everyone here is so in tune with the manga that I haven't seen any OOC fics here)

I agree, it's a bit of a challenge because Riza can be very, very subtle at times and her actions still get the message across clearly. There have been many instances of me staring at my computer for long periods of time trying to reword a sentence just so it has that effect lol...and even then I don't know if I ever really do it. And she is so complex that it's hard to know which parts of her personality to bring out when and not make her seem OOC. But I really enjoy writing her ^^

QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Aug 11 2009, 03:18 PM) *
About Riza possibly dying: RoyxRizaFan said basically everything I wanted to say. I feel like we're constantly being jerked around emotionally, but that's all part of the fun!

I agree! The fact that I worry about the characters and that I feel so emotionally invested in this series is something that I really like. It's more fun to be wondering about what's going to happen and being pulled in so many different directions than to just feel like you're reading the same thing over and over every week/month. I don't really want to make predictions because I just feel like whatever Arakawa does will be awesome and that she'll continue to take this series in the right direction. It's nice to have such faith in the mangaka...unlike other series where I've all but given up hope ^^;
FMAobsessed
OK ten pages later, I finally watched episode 19. Royai forever. I know the discussion has been serious but I really need to say this. Roy with his shirt open made me melt. Jeez he is ripped. The aime tends to make Ed and Roy look more muscular than the manga.

I see we have a major cliffhanger again for chapter 99. Oh well it is something to expect from Arakawa. Turdaewen you bring up good, yet scary theories to me about why Riza and Scar are there. I mean they are not candidates to open the portal or gate, still confused by those terms.

When the Wii game comes out, I will need to search for videos of it on youtube. I don't understand a word of Japanese. But if there are Royai moments in it than I will translate the dialogue in my mind.

@amestris_star You and Kale posted another part of your story. Do you remember what page you posted it on? Because I really need to read it.
amestris_star
QUOTE (FMAobsessed @ Aug 12 2009, 06:35 AM) *
@amestris_star You and Kale posted another part of your story. Do you remember what page you posted it on? Because I really need to read it.


@FMAobsessed: Check out my LJ (http://amestris-star.livejournal.com) and it should be the second entry if I'm not mistaken wink.gif
_Jelly
curious post for epic scan

http://www.animepaper.net/gallery/scans/Fu...ist/item251078/

EDIT: the word "rando m" is filtered to the word "curious"? And why is that?
black~hayate
Yep, this scan is definetely epic.

For the ones who allready downloaded 98...
I'll post my royaish opinion here...
I am so happy that we finally see Hawkeye AND Roy...
BUUUUT... they don't talk with each other. No more interactions...
And then, the final showdown! Omg! I sense danger... could it be that they don't get any time to...eeeh... be royaish?

*sigh*
_Jelly
Yeah they seemed to get over the Envy incident pretty fast. Then again some time passed while Wrath, Sloth and Greed were shown so they could've dealt with that, only we werent able to see it... I really have no idea what's happening now, I dont even know Father's intentions (cause I skipped a massive chunk of the manga) so no idea. Maybe mid-fight, Roy will try to protect her or something, as right now she seems to be powerless compared to the Scar, Ed and Roy at the moment. "Guns dont work on anything these days!", you know what I'm sayin'?


EDIT: Oops the scan I posted just before was already posted in another thread. A bit slow of me. :S
Turdaewen
Yeah, it's seems like things will get a little complicated, but, reading the chapter whole, now, it makes me feel that there're two characters that are in TRUE danger of dying: Scar and Fuu. (don't ask me why... it's just a feeling)
Rethinking on the way Arakawa usually works, once my emotional fear got back to normal and I began being rational again, Riza doesn't seem like the best candidate to dying. She's already hurt, she passed through an emotional rollercoaster less than 10 chapters ago. And, more than that, seems she's still has a big job ahead of her after all the fights are over, with the whole 'helping Roy' and clarifying Ishval.
Yes, I discovered that it is, in fact, Ishval and not Ishbal!

The characters that usually die in FMA seem to combine two things: their death is important to the story and they seem not to have any major 'job' or dilemma to deal with, anymore. It's like that character is already 'wrapped up' and there's nothing more to work on it, which is not Riza's case.



Changing the subject, can I ask something: why is it that 90% of the Royai fanfics puts up as if Roy's paperworks is like, infinite?? I mean, of course, he's got a LOT of job to do, but it's not like they can just 'produce' more paperwork once he's finished. That's so... unreal. It's an cliché image: Roy finishes his paperwork and, suddenly, out of nowhere, Riza appears with a package thrice as big!
It's good for a joke, of course, but it sorta wears out if you over use it (which they are), as if Roy's only work was to fill out forms.
It's rare to see any fanfics that show Roy going out on inspections or meetings, or any sort of research...
FMAobsessed
Thank you for posting the link to your story amestris_star! Also thanks JELEE for that epic scan. I haven't seen it yet. So it made me happy.

paca
QUOTE (amestris_star @ Aug 11 2009, 02:17 PM) *
@spectator: Except for the info that paca posted, nothing much.


About the game : Michiyo posted a link to this month manga preview!

QUOTE (Michiyo- @ Aug 12 2009, 04:15 AM) *
EDIT: Here's the comic preview for the Wii game:
http://mangahelpers.com/downloads/download/46952 biggrin.gif


XD

about the manga I don't want to throw any theories xD Arakawa always ruins my theories is the most awesome way xD
hahaha
but some things that I think that somehow in some moment may be "used" are:

Bradly said he will take care of Roy and make him open the door...
at least he must try or all have been said (plus the hostages) in vain and will have no point... and all the I take your subordinates far away was just a mere little problem...

the tattoo...
I am not sure about this , maybe it has just had it's point in the previous chapter...but it may be for something more

I want to see you eyes full of Anguish... (kukukuku) it close....
so I think roy hasn't had that look of mad alchemist, that one that they ahve when they can really do nothing but look, when they look their hands and feel really uselees ....
If nothing happens with it , all that blabla has no point either...
(and this line is remarked in the manga chapter, in the anime <3, and twice in the character book!!)

Selims "blackmailing" lol
hahahha, don't tell me that he was just babling... he told Riza to stay in line...now he must be angry xDDDDD


and that's for now. :3
hand-made-city
I know exactly what you mean, Turdaewen! Some fanfic writers out there don't know who the heck they're writing about half the time! Either Roy is doing tons of paperwork all the time, or Riza is pointing her gun at him to make him work. And neither is true to their characters. It's criminal waste of what someone could be writing about instead, to make it worth other people's time!

And paca, thank you for giving a link to the comic preview!!! I'm so excited! How long is it supposed to be? Anyone know?
spectator
Yeah, writing Roy doing tons of paperwork is my favorite, although i don't do it that often, and without the part where Riza pointing the gun at him. I did write about Riza shooting at Roy when I was new to FMA, in my first fic. Haha! What a noob I was! I don't think that Riza needs her gun to get ppl do their work. She just has the aura to get everyone to do their jobs. Riza just get what she wants, I guess.
Causmicfire
QUOTE (Turdaewen @ Aug 12 2009, 06:16 AM) *
[Changing the subject, can I ask something: why is it that 90% of the Royai fanfics puts up as if Roy's paperworks is like, infinite?? I mean, of course, he's got a LOT of job to do, but it's not like they can just 'produce' more paperwork once he's finished. That's so... unreal. It's an cliché image: Roy finishes his paperwork and, suddenly, out of nowhere, Riza appears with a package thrice as big!
It's good for a joke, of course, but it sorta wears out if you over use it (which they are), as if Roy's only work was to fill out forms.
It's rare to see any fanfics that show Roy going out on inspections or meetings, or any sort of research...



I think it's the fact that Hawkeye has reminded him not to slack off in her absence...twice.

Being in Eastern, I can see him doing quite a bit, since they're a smaller base, and would have fewer people in the higher chain of command, and thus having more to do in the way of meetings, inspections, and investigations his time in the office doing paperwork is limited, which may cause it to back up a little, or be something he has to focus on at the end of every day, something he doesn't particularly like.

Being in Central, he probably still has meetings, investigations, and inspections, but there are more secrets that need protected by the upper brass there, and there is more upper brass in Central with it being the H.Q. of the Fuhrer. So, for Mustang, who doesn't glean over oddities, that means...more paperwork.

As for his research, we've never really seen much regarding his alchemy research. He surely has to renew his license just like the other state alchemists, but how does he top flame alchemy(aside from his little battle with Ed in the side story). Also, if he lost his state alchemy license, would his rank drop at all?

regarding chapter 98:
So, now Olivier's the one being blamed for the coup. I wonder if that means that Mustang's saving grace will be the fact that his troops have Mrs. Bradley, and protected her until she could let all of Central know about what happened to her. I wonder when Grumman and Miles will come alone.
spectator
QUOTE (HisshouBuraiKen @ Aug 12 2009, 12:03 PM) *
Ed: Yeah, right! If Scar and I hadn't been there you'd have gone over the edge!
Mustang: Don't try to make it out like I owe YOU.
My LIEUTENANT was the one who stopped me.


I like this one. laugh.gif Sometimes, Roy is such a sweet guy.
Michiyo-
^I loved that line, too! ^^ That's so sweet. Can we count that as a Royai moment? biggrin.gif
spectator
@Michiyo: It might not mean anything but still, it comes from his mouth and I had never heard of him saying 'My Lieutenant' before.
black~hayate
pfft... guys...
He called her:
-my dearest subordinate
-my aide
-my guard (or something like this)
and now even
-my lieutenant =D.

Dunno, how for you, but for me, this is a Royai moment =D. That was sweet =3.
And the fact, that Riza and Scar were watching in silence (...) made it pretty funny.
That was one of those extras from the cow for us
Royai fans >D
amestris_star
QUOTE (spectator @ Aug 12 2009, 08:54 PM) *
QUOTE (HisshouBuraiKen @ Aug 12 2009, 12:03 PM) *
Ed: Yeah, right! If Scar and I hadn't been there you'd have gone over the edge!
Mustang: Don't try to make it out like I owe YOU.
My LIEUTENANT was the one who stopped me.


I like this one. laugh.gif Sometimes, Roy is such a sweet guy.


This made my day actually XD

And the Wii game preview... by Hiromu.

And the chapter...

And... *dies* All this epic is killing me... now the wait for September 12th! ARGH!
hand-made-city
QUOTE (Michiyo- @ Aug 12 2009, 03:04 PM) *
^I loved that line, too! ^^ That's so sweet. Can we count that as a Royai moment? biggrin.gif


That can most certainly be a Royai moment! After all, it wasn't Ed or Scar's words that affected Roy, but Riza's!
Kale Mustang
I thought the line was cute, though at the same time very fitting as he was right about that.
The_Twilight_Trinity
QUOTE (Michiyo- @ Aug 12 2009, 01:04 PM) *
^I loved that line, too! ^^ That's so sweet. Can we count that as a Royai moment? biggrin.gif


Yes!!! Definitely! I saw that and went "Oh.... Squee!" Though it's definitely one of the smaller ones, it was also pretty cute! And really, all of the small moments add up! Royai is the best thing ever..... biggrin.gif
jacksparrow589
Epic scan of Roy, Riza, and Lust! It looked like it might have been from Newtype? I couldn't really tell, but the text in the upper right looked like it.

The reality of Roy and paperwork: Yeah, he's probably not got truckloads to do every day, but I've heard tell that law enforcement tends to have larger quantities of paperwork, due to incident reports and whatnot. Also, being an alchemist, might Roy be looking over research of other state alchemists beneath him in rank? Just a thought. Also, he's got his slacker facade to keep up. and we slackers do love to complain...

Chapter 98: A short 'n' sweet scene this time, but at least some of the focus will be on them in the next chapter, having come upon Dr. Creepydude going, "I'm going to destroy you all! MWAHAHAHAHAHA!" Way to ruin the moment.

Really, though. It was a cute moment. Why let Ed take the credit when we can have a Royai moment? Ed did have a hand in it, just as Scar did (and I'm happy that Riza acknowledges this. I think she and Scar would get along well under different circumstances for some reason.), but Riza was the one who really drew the line. I think she could have done it without Ed and Scar's support, but at the same time, I'm sure that they weakened his resolve, or he would've torched Envy listening to them.

I'm not sure that he was entirely ready to do it, anyway. That he hesitated from the outset shows something. Well, Riza did have a gun pointed at his head... but if he really was past the point of caring, he would have just done it and had that be that.
spectator
I don't know what happen. But, when I first read that dialog -- My LIEUTENANT OMG! then reread the line again. It's My LIEUTENANT. Now, those words keep on repeating in my head. I don't know about Riza. If I were her, I would be melting.

Don't you guys feel that Roy is a bit childish? He was fighting with Ed over nothing. But the fight was very cute.

By the way, in episode 19, I found that Roy is really good at using a gun. He's not that useless as we think, at all.
_Jelly
Hahah it's not "the Lieutenant" it's "my Lieutenant". How sweet. At least now we can expect the majority of chapter 99 to be full of those four yes? Too bad IT'S ANOTHER MONTH OH CRAP.
Kaori Ayanami
Here we go again... There, another case of a royaish translation. sleep.gif

This is the original line: "Watashi ga asoko de fumitodomareta no wa chuui no o-kage da". The translation should be something like this: "It was thanks to (the) 1st. Lieutenant that I was made hold my ground back there". Not that my Japanese is that good, but the difference is quite clear. (Sorry if the wording seems awkward, English is not my mother language ^^U).

Go tell them off, Tombow. tongue.gif

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Yet another lurker appearing out of nowhere. Hi, everyone. happy.gif

Edited:
@JELEE: No, it's HisshouBuraiKen's version. Tombow still hasn't make it that far. tongue.gif
And thanks for the welcome.
_Jelly
Even though Tombow was the one who translated that part? Or so I thought [EDIT: my mistake, it wasnt... =D]. In Japanese the difference between "my/me" and "the/that" should be fairly distinguishable; something I thought about when I read it. Often there are issues with translating but that's one thing I imagined wouldnt be a problem.


Welcome by the way.
black~hayate
QUOTE (Kaori Ayanami @ Aug 13 2009, 01:07 PM) *
Here we go again... There, another case of a royaish translation. sleep.gif

This is the original line: "Watashi ga asoko de fumitodomareta no wa chuui no o-kage da". The translation should be something like this: "It was thanks to (the) 1st. Lieutenant that I was made hold my ground back there". Not that my Japanese is that good, but the difference is quite clear. (Sorry if the wording seems awkward, English is not my mother language ^^U).

Go tell them off, Tombow. tongue.gif

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Yet another lurker appearing out of nowhere. Hi, everyone. happy.gif

Edited:
@JELEE: No, it's HisshouBuraiKen's version. Tombow still hasn't make it that far. tongue.gif
And thanks for the welcome.


Dunno about this. Are you sure? Those mistakes are annoying >D
Tombow (or sorry, who ever translated this one) translated "MY Lieutenant", the guys who posted their version at "onemanga.com" also translated it as "my Lieutenant"... hey, translators, confirm that >D
_Jelly
The team that uploads onto One Manga seem like noobs when it comes to translating accurately though. There are numerous sources and unless you're SUPER DUPER UBER picky (like us), it doesnt matter which one you read, the general gist is the same:



Riza stopped Roy.



Ta-da~

I suppose that's enough... for me it is anyway. At least he can admit it; I expected something like "I dont owe you anything, I'm awesome, I didnt need saving from anyone 'cause I'm a man-- okay just kidding not really.
kkg22104
QUOTE (Kaori Ayanami @ Aug 13 2009, 07:07 AM) *
Here we go again... There, another case of a royaish translation. sleep.gif

This is the original line: "Watashi ga asoko de fumitodomareta no wa chuui no o-kage da". The translation should be something like this: "It was thanks to (the) 1st. Lieutenant that I was made hold my ground back there". Not that my Japanese is that good, but the difference is quite clear. (Sorry if the wording seems awkward, English is not my mother language ^^U).

Go tell them off, Tombow. tongue.gif


Ha, I was actually expecting it to be another mistranslation to send Royai fans screaming again tongue.gif Also, the scanlation on Onemanga used HisshouBuraiKen's version, so they didn't translate it themselves.

Oh well, to clear this up...Tombow-san, we need your amazing translation skills! biggrin.gif

And welcome Kaori Ayanami smile.gif
jacksparrow589
Hello, Kayori Ayanami! Welcome!

"My" or "the", it doesn't really matter to me. On this one, either way, Riza's getting most of the credit there, and that's all that I care about. tongue.gif
Kale Mustang
QUOTE (spectator @ Aug 12 2009, 07:37 PM) *
Don't you guys feel that Roy is a bit childish? He was fighting with Ed over nothing. But the fight was very cute.


It's Roy's nature to argue like that with Ed. Roy knows how to annoy Ed and vice versa. I never thought that the way they fight is childish as in many ways, Roy is like a grown-up Ed (they react to things the same way too).

But, that's just my opinion.
spectator
guys, I check the RAW. Indeed, although my japanese not that good, there is no sign of Roy saying 'my Lieutenant'. it's just 'Lieutenant'. That's all. laugh.gif

That's why I felt so sudden that Roy would say 'my lieutenant'. laugh.gif
Kale Mustang
Yep, I learned not to jump to conclusions over the translations. Like I said earlier, the line was cute and fitting because he's right - Riza did talk him out of it - and after reading it, I just left the line alone.
The_Twilight_Trinity
Ah.... Well, mistranslated as the scene is (even though just barely....), it's still a small Royai moment to me! biggrin.gif Riza saves Roy with a mistranslated plea, and Roy acknowledges the mistranslated saving with.... a mistranslated acknowledgment. Ha ha! Still a cute moment either way if you ask me. It's really amazing how picky we are when it comes to translations though.... laugh.gif
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