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Turdaewen
QUOTE (black~hayate @ Aug 8 2009, 07:04 PM) *
QUOTE (Forsaken Love @ Aug 8 2009, 11:51 PM) *
havnt we allready settled that Riza is not derived from Elizabeth though XD lol but from Thereza or something that means warrior or protector eep cant remember someone remind me XD


yeah we kinda have. But everyone has is other understanding of the name.
Me for example, I still cannot find a proof that Riza is the shortening of Thereza. Of course my favourite Mangaka hasn't make a mistake, she diddn't mean to name her Liza or anything. But why then Riza got called not Thereza by Mustang? Why he had screamed "Elizabeth" when her father died or why diddn't they use the name "Thereza" as her codename?
I don't think that Riza comes from Thereza. I am even sure of this. Sure, Thereza would fit because of the meaning. But that's all.

As a matter of fact, I can prove it comes from Theresa: http://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Riza
This is actually one of the best place for name origins I've found so far.

And Mustang doesn't call her Theresa because her name is RIZA, not Theresa.
Variations are DIFFERENT names, with the same origins and meanings. Usually, one comes from the other (like the case of Liza for Elizabeth and Riza for Theresa), but not always. My name, for example, is not a derivation of Rachel but rather a different pronunciation of a Hebrew word (which is how they say it in Latin languages). But, still, I'm not called Rachel, cause you don't get to 'change names'. A Pedro would never be a Peter and vice-versa.

What I'm trying to say is: her name COMES FROM Theresa, but it's NOT Theresa. It's just Riza. I just like to show it comes from a different name because too many people see it and go 'automatically' saying; it's wrong, her names is Liza because it's a shorten for Elizabeth. I'm just trying to proof the name Riza actually exists and has nothing to do with Elizabeth.
black~hayate
ah, allright, now we got this out of the way =D. I have a proof now. Why couldn't I find this by myself? T___T

Nooow... we all need to scream very fangirlish... ya know... episode 19 wink.gif
Turdaewen
YES!!!! We do!! XD ^^

Nah!! I'm not much of a screamer, actually... lol
amestris_star
I cried more than screamed actually... took me almost a whole hour to calm down...
Turdaewen
It was nice, wasn't it??
jacksparrow589
I've only seen screenshots so far. I can't find the whole episode! sad.gif But I did check out R@ndom Curiousity (@ used in place of regular a due to the use of an over-used word, in case anyone here is not familiar with that anime blog) and it seems that things were very much kept intact. I can't wait to watch! I will be on the edge of my seat the entire time, despite knowing what's going to happen. *is incredibly happy*

On names: Turdaewen--Ah, thanks for clearing that up!
Turdaewen
No probl.

I usually get the episodes on Tokyo Toshokan: http://www.tokyotosho.info/ But, at this time, there're only RAW versions... If you don't mind. ^^ (in my case, I don't always get to understand everything, but it helps me practice)
kkg22104
@Turdaewen: Thanks for the link, my computer is downloading the raw now! happy.gif Can't wait to see the epic action, if this episode is as good as everyone says it is. (BTW, I like your sig tongue.gif)
Aribelle
Ahhh you're all making me excited for this! I'll wait 'til I can find the RAW streaming somewhere, but zomgggg I can't wait. \o/

On a COMPLETELY unrelated note, does anyone here watch The West Wing? Royai SO reminds me of Josh and Donna. They're scarily similar at times. She is his aid, they have that kind of bickering tone of conversation on a day-to-day basis, but they're very affectionate towards each other when the other is not doing well. And Donna is blonde. Ahaha. And the part where Josh had PTSD and she was the one who noticed something was wrong and told Leo, who would be able to confront him about it... I feel like that would be something we could definitely see in FMA. Lol aaaand now I really want to watch The West Wing.
Michiyo-
QUOTE (Aribelle @ Aug 9 2009, 07:48 PM) *
Ahhh you're all making me excited for this! I'll wait 'til I can find the RAW streaming somewhere, but zomgggg I can't wait. \o/

It's already up, I just watched it. biggrin.gif
This is such an awesome ep, can't wait to watch it with subs.

And chapter 98 is amost here! Guess who's on the cover of Shounen Gangan: biggrin.gif
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RizaXRoy
@Turdaewen: Thanks for posting the link!! It shows that the meaning of Riza is guardian and hunter. It fits quite well to Riza character happy.gif

@Michiyo- : Thanks for bringing us the updated trailer of the new game!! Riza looks very pretty!! I want to know what Roy says to Riza when Riza walks away in purple dress!! biggrin.gif

Episode 19 is really....nice!! They did show Roy's worried expression!! And Roy's expression is just EXTREMELY priceless when he is scolded by Riza!! laugh.gif
Black Hayate waves its tail at Roy, Hayate seems very happy to see Roy, of course...Roy is his mommy's..... tongue.gif . Riza's tear part is kinda touching !!BTW, they didn't show Roy's say about 'Glad that you're alive' to Riza ,I know this is not important to the plot but it would be nicer if they show it


Oh..looks like it would have Royai in manga next chapter!! I want chapter 98 now!!
RoyxRizaFan
I just watched 19 RAW, and I am DYING for the subs.

I am sooo happy they didn't cut anything RoyAi! Roy was so amazing during the fight, and animation for the flames and Lust dying was astounding!

Riza's eyes were HUGE when she was bitching Roy out, but his expression was priceless XD
Kale Mustang
QUOTE (amestris_star @ Aug 9 2009, 06:28 AM) *
I cried more than screamed actually... took me almost a whole hour to calm down...


No kidding...I was lol'ing the entire time both during and after the episode when we were talking... tongue.gif

So far, ep. 19 is the best one yet. Just seeing Riza's breakdown after Lust told her that Roy was dead - beautiful, especially the shot of where the tears were running down her cheeks as it matched the manga panel perfectly (http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/39/27/)

Also, I was glad to see that both Fuery and Hayate were kept - always great seeing those two. smile.gif

Roy though...words cannot describe the sheer awesome he was this entire episode. cool.gif

@Aribelle:
Totally got you on the Josh/Donna thing from West Wing as far as Roy & Riza are concerned, but Roy mostly reminds me of Sam (the idealism and need to change things) in personality. wink.gif
The_Twilight_Trinity
BEST. EPISODE. EVER. I just watched the Raw, and I went immediately into fangirl mode. I can guarantee that I won't come out of said mode for awhile now.! biggrin.gif SQUEE!!!! That made me so happy!!!! There was just so much Royai in that episode! I'm sorta overwhelmed. I loved how they did the scene where Riza gets angry with Roy, and the Roy vs. Lust scene was done almost perfectly, in my opinion! And did anyone else squeal when they saw Mustang come back in with his shirt open....? Sorry..... I just had to mention.... biggrin.gif

YAY!

*goes to fangirl elsewhere*
Kale Mustang
QUOTE (The_Twilight_Trinity @ Aug 9 2009, 02:08 PM) *
And did anyone else squeal when they saw Mustang come back in with his shirt open....? Sorry..... I just had to mention.... biggrin.gif

YAY!

*goes to fangirl elsewhere*


amestris_star did when we were talking after the episode - lulz. My fanservice (Riza's tattoo) won't show up until later... tongue.gif
black~hayate
Roys abdomen was pure fanservice!
Hayate, me, was also awesome, don't you think? wink.gif.
Aaaand I must admit, Riza's screams were strange. They overdid it... dunno, I liked the first scream, the rest I diddn't like. Sounded like a little girl crying... They could have done it better =/.
But it all was superb awesome! Every second with Roy and Riza was amaziiiiing...
Aribelle
QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Aug 9 2009, 11:41 AM) *
@Aribelle:
Totally got you on the Josh/Donna thing from West Wing as far as Roy & Riza are concerned, but Roy mostly reminds me of Sam (the idealism and need to change things) in personality. wink.gif

Indeed, I agree. Roy isn't much of a Josh. Sam certainly fits him better...he's always got that sort of sense of unrest about him. Okay...now I really want to watch West Wing...that show is just so goooood wub.gif

AHH but I finally watched the RAW. Soooo good. I'm dying to watch it subbed...I like Fumiko Orisaka as Riza a lot. I think she can do both the action girl and the more "girly" girl pretty well. And Shinichiro Miki is just awesome. But yeah...they really got all the emotion and everything that makes this part so amazing. Yay~

I just thought the music kind of ruined the moment though >.< I am just not a huge fan of the new score.


But really, that was awesome. I can't wait for 94 and 95 now XD
Kale Mustang
Personally, I didn't mind the scream from Riza so much as that's probably what one sounds like when their world comes crashing down like that, so it seemed fitting.

@Aribelle
OT: If anything though, Maes and Roy remind me of Josh and Sam for sure. Even down to the support for running. smile.gif
hand-made-city
Wow that episode was amazing! Took me an hour just to watch it because I kept going back and watching scenes over and over! Riza's crying scene was beautifully animated! I felt as though I'd cry too!

And when Roy is torching Lust... and she makes those horrible screaming sounds.... and the flames shot up everywhere... that was awesome and amazing!!

Great episode! Definitely my favorite so far! Poor Havoc though.. and you know, I felt more emotion towards Barry's death in the anime then I did in the manga.. because you could hear the urgency in his voice before his seal got scratched away.. it was sad.

Ahh~~ I'll be watching this over and over til I overdose on Royai!

(Oh! My 200th post! Yay!)
The_Twilight_Trinity
QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Aug 9 2009, 04:34 PM) *
Personally, I didn't mind the scream from Riza so much as that's probably what one sounds like when their world comes crashing down like that, so it seemed fitting.


I agree. Though, at first I was sorta shocked by it.... It was pretty scary, but probably realistic. (Though I can't say I've ever seen someone break down as hardcore as she does there...)

Ha ha! I forgot to say before, but again, no eyecatch for Riza! What do they have against her?

@hand-made-city-- Ha ha! I'm watching it over and over again too! It's such a good episode! *dies of Royai overdose*
kkg22104
QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Aug 9 2009, 02:41 PM) *
So far, ep. 19 is the best one yet. Just seeing Riza's breakdown after Lust told her that Roy was dead - beautiful, especially the shot of where the tears were running down her cheeks as it matched the manga panel perfectly (http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/39/27/)


Matching screenshot! biggrin.gif



Edit: Hmm...manga did it better XD
spectator
After watching the newest game trailer and episode 19, I'm pretty much close to death due to Royai overdose.

My favorite scenes are
"Colonel, are you an idiot?"
"Yeah, yeah, I'm an idiot."

and where Fuery snickers.

I laughed so loud when Roy and Havoc talked about Lust's breasts.


Black Hayate is one of the heroes too in episode 19. Good boy!
SneakyRuler
Finally managed to watch the raw and everything was happening so quickly. I actually love Riza's new voice. It took me some time to get used to but now I prefer it to the previous one. Some say that she sounds too girly but that's the point. She is a woman and she acts like one, but that doesn't make her be less of a soldier or a sniper. I especially liked how she switches sides during ep 19. Sometimes she's got deeper, I call it 'bada$$' voice which is commanding and very army-like while sometimes she talks her usual, softer voice, the one we heard most of the time.

My favourite Riza moment... there were more, who would guess? tongue.gifFirst one is Riza stopping when she heard the explosion and then resuming walking. It showed how that she's no brainwashed soldier and that she ponders her every step and makes the decision she thinks the best.
Second will be how her hands started shaking when Lust mentioned one sacrifice killed. Well, and the rest... have you noticed she actually almost missed Lust? She hit only shoulder! Le gasp!

The_Twilight_Trinity
QUOTE (SneakyRuler @ Aug 9 2009, 06:54 PM) *
My favourite Riza moment... there were more, who would guess? tongue.gifFirst one is Riza stopping when she heard the explosion and then resuming walking. It showed how that she's no brainwashed soldier and that she ponders her every step and makes the decision she thinks the best.
Second will be how her hands started shaking when Lust mentioned one sacrifice killed. Well, and the rest... have you noticed she actually almost missed Lust? She hit only shoulder! Le gasp!


Oh! I'm glad someone else noticed the explosion thing! I thought that it was sort of sweet in a way. You could tell she had to fight with herself to do what was best instead of running back to see if Roy was okay. And I love how her hands started shaking too! That wasn't in the manga-- pretty sure. But it does remind me a little bit of chapter 95 when they shook then. Yay! I just adore this episode! I have a ton of faith in Bones now!!!!!
Kale Mustang
Yeah, I noticed the hesitation on her part after the explosion in the episode. It was a great moment as it was obvious that she wanted to go and check on the others, but knew that she a job to complete.
edo little kid
Hello friends~

I draw this pic about Riza-san



(she was really great in ep 19)

well , hope you liked it
amestris_star
QUOTE (Kale Mustang @ Aug 9 2009, 11:12 PM) *
amestris_star did when we were talking after the episode - lulz. My fanservice (Riza's tattoo) won't show up until later... tongue.gif


Ahem... oh really? tongue.gif You'll get yours too in no time XD
Ah well, episode was made of pure epic so I'm more than happy (and yes, I admit, I fangirled like crazy XD)
Kale Mustang
QUOTE (amestris_star @ Aug 9 2009, 10:16 PM) *
Ahem... oh really? tongue.gif You'll get yours too in no time XD
Ah well, episode was made of pure epic so I'm more than happy (and yes, I admit, I fangirled like crazy XD)


And I told you, I can't wait to see it in all of its hi-def glory. Plus, it's right before one of the best story arcs in the manga - the Ishval War. biggrin.gif

@edo little kid:
Cute pic and thanks for sharing smile.gif
SunnyDaiki
QUOTE (edo little kid @ Aug 10 2009, 11:38 AM) *
Hello friends~

I draw this pic about Riza-san



(she was really great in ep 19)

well , hope you liked it


Wow it's so cute xD i'd love 2 see how u draw a chibi Roy tongue.gif

hopefully eps 19 would come out soon... i'm here dying of waiting for the big royai moment 2 come~
rinoaebastel
Ah, I notice her hesitation when he heard the explosion too smile.gif
...Mm It's just me or in the beginning Roy is more concernent about her than in the manga?. .


I think I fall in love with those expresions sigh

By the way, if someone is interested, I made a "little" picspam of the chapter be free of catch all you want lol ^^

http://rinoax.livejournal.com/64675.html

PS: @edo little kid I love the fan art smile.gif
Gimpyhair
How sweet, thanks for sharing!
I did a new comic: http://gimpyslair.deviantart.com/art/FMA-Affair-132730707
black~hayate
QUOTE (Gimpyhair @ Aug 10 2009, 12:47 PM) *
How sweet, thanks for sharing!
I did a new comic: http://gimpyslair.deviantart.com/art/FMA-Affair-132730707


you liar, you said on Deviantart, it's not funny, but why then I laughed like stupid? biggrin.gif.
I like it. I waited for new comics from you =D.
Now we need one where the both are actually making out >D
Makika
Oh god, Gimpyhair, I laugh a loooot with your comic. hahahaha, Congratz! U r amazing!



And about the episode 19, I loved it! The parts after the battles, Riza smiling for Roy after the Gluttony's thing, oh god, I think that so cute! And the part from the lab... well... That was one of my "wish scenes list", ok, after all, I just can say I love this ep.
C'mom chapter 98 *--*
FMAobsessed
Thank you for the picspam rinoaebastel I still haven't seen the episode yet, but it seems like it will be awesome.
spectator
@Gimpyhair: laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif awesome comic! Fuery actually had his radio out is hilarious.
Turdaewen
QUOTE (kkg22104 @ Aug 9 2009, 01:50 PM) *
@Turdaewen: Thanks for the link, my computer is downloading the raw now! happy.gif Can't wait to see the epic action, if this episode is as good as everyone says it is. (BTW, I like your sig tongue.gif)

Yay! ^^ Glad you liked it!
I wanted to make a MMV with that song for the longest time, now, but I don't know how to make them... :'(
amestris_star
@Gimpyhair: Your comic was totally hilarious! Loved it so much XD Thanks for sharing wink.gif

And, has someone noticed the Royai in that was put in Ep 19? When they are going down the tower's stairs together?

Riza: Colonel?
Roy: What is it?
Riza: Thank you.
Roy: Save it for later. We're in the middle of an operation.
Riza: Yes Sir.

And I'm like... HE SAID WHAT? And the sweet smile she said afterwards just confirmed what I was thinking.
My Royai head's exploding lol
rzerox21xx
Wow, look at this Riza in this new anime scans from the game in her chinese dress. Roy is admiring the scenary.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q365/hi...hemist/ani6.jpg
black~hayate
QUOTE (rzerox21xx @ Aug 10 2009, 07:36 PM) *
Wow, look at this Riza in this new anime scans from the game in her chinese dress. Roy is admiring the scenary.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q365/hi...hemist/ani6.jpg


WHOOOOOW this picture is DANGEROUS tongue.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif Awesome...
amestris_star
QUOTE (rzerox21xx @ Aug 10 2009, 07:36 PM) *
Wow, look at this Riza in this new anime scans from the game in her chinese dress. Roy is admiring the scenary.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q365/hi...hemist/ani6.jpg


And his grin shows he's extremely pleased actually laugh.gif
rzerox21xx
Well I hope Roy is admiring Riza only because well Winry and the other girl are too young for him. Riza looks so fine, the first series never gave her this much fan service. that you can agree. even the beach picture scan in the first series, Riza and Winry bathing suits were alot more conservative.

The other pic in the 2 pages spread is Winry(My goodness, the first series never gave her this much fanservice) and Al's love intrest in the games. I put that pic in the Ed Winry thread snice it did have Ed making a face expression that I can't tell and hot bikini Winry.


amestris_star
QUOTE (rzerox21xx @ Aug 10 2009, 08:02 PM) *
The other pic in the 2 pages spread is Winry(My goodness, the first series never gave her this much fanservice) and Al's love intrest in the games. I put that pic in the Ed Winry thread snice it did have Ed making a face expression that I can't tell and hot bikini Winry.


Strangely enough, in that pic... I tend to look at Armstrong and burst out laughing for a good five minutes XD
Michiyo-
^And in the same pic there's a blushing Riza in the upper corner. Maybe Roy complimented her? ^^
rzerox21xx
the first series was more conservative if you look at this beach picture. Even Riza chinese dress shows more cleavage than this. Brotherhood seem to be showing more fanservice than the first series. I don't mind, the hotter and sexier looking the girls, the more reason and good to route for our heroes Ed and Roy to end up with them.

http://th03.deviantart.net/fs6/300W/i/2005..._Albelsgirl.jpg
amestris_star
And since it's almost becoming like the FMA chapter, here's the update of the fanfic for whoever was following it smile.gif

http://amestris-star.livejournal.com/52728.html Enjoy smile.gif
spectator
Why do I feel that Riza looks so unnatural in that pic? She looks better in the trailer with that cheongsam. If only it is red... and that will be perfect! By the way, is that the dress she's wearing for the party?

I notice that Havoc and Hughes are not in that game. So probably, that whole setting was after Roy vs. Lust incident.
Turdaewen
According to the official site, the story sets after volume 16, right before Ed and Al go to Briggs, so, Havoc would already be at the hospital and Riza would be working as the Führer assistant.
amestris_star
QUOTE (spectator @ Aug 10 2009, 11:34 PM) *
Why do I feel that Riza looks so unnatural in that pic? She looks better in the trailer with that cheongsam. If only it is red... and that will be perfect! By the way, is that the dress she's wearing for the party?

I notice that Havoc and Hughes are not in that game. So probably, that whole setting was after Roy vs. Lust incident.


There's something wrong in her face in that pic... apart from the fact that she looks not very natural with those sort of flashy dresses... I would have liked it more if it were red or black.
black~hayate

QUOTE (spectator @ Aug 10 2009, 11:34 PM) *
Why do I feel that Riza looks so unnatural in that red or black.


Yeah, red would be nice and black with some sparkles would be friggin awesome. Why would they use purple? It doesn't look bad, but...
It looks so oriental, the dress. Red would fit much better.
And black would be much more elegant and serious.
The_Twilight_Trinity
I agree. Her face does seem pretty strange and unlike her (I think it's her smile), and I never would picture her in a dress like that. Not that it doesn't look good on her, it's just, as everyone has said, not natural. I totally agree that red or black would look a lot better for that sort of dress, and for her character, really. Of course, Roy doesn't seem to mind at all! biggrin.gif

It's good that at least one of them is well dressed.... Roy looks sorta like an idiot.... Although, I must say I love the pink on him! laugh.gif
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