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Turdaewen
That's not what I meant. sad.gif lol (you have to forgive me, English is not my mother language, after all XD lol)

Of course that, if she was to kill him, she wouldn't take into account how popular he is. Even because, as people say all the time, Arakawa already established the end even before the manga started.
What I meant is that, if she DID kill him now, many people would be angry at her because Roy's the favorite character of many.

The reason I believe she wouldn't kill him just because he's too important to die recklessly in the story. I'm sure that, if he DOES die, will be for something more dramatic than just fighting someone as weak as Envy. As for all the others, I don't think anyone there would kill him (aside from Hawkeye). And even Riza, she would do just about anything to prevent that.
In any way, I could expect a death like that in many other mangas but, from what I saw from Arakawa up till now, she plans her stories VERY carefully and, especially when it comes to the main characters, does everything in a sense that EVERYTHING builds to the story. And I don't think Roy's death at this point would bring that.

amestris_Star Thanks!!! ^^ I just love good fanarts ^^
rainbowcatgirl
Thank you all for trying to answer my question !

I think that the creator of FMA will kill off any character she feels will out more closure in the plot. The popularity of the charactersan impact on who might die first but i think its up to what fits in the story.

With each new chapter we will learn more about the characters that felt so real to our hearts, and the broken plots of each character will be resolved and the ending will shed light for us all.

^ ^ I got a feeling that Roy will come to his senses thanks to Riza's undieing loyalty, if Roy is the victum of his own flames who lead lead Artemis to its former glory ?

* Sorry for the missspelled words ! tongue.gif
Makika
I think Hiromu just kill someone if the death of this character'll cause a biiiig influence in the history. (Trisha's death = Ed an Al losing his bodies / Hughes's Death = Roy between his ideals and his feelings, Riza loyality, etc)

Well, the one thing we already knows... Hiromu is a 100% unexpected author.


I'll draw some royai scenes today (including my fanatic royai ilusion). shuishuishs
I'll bring to you later. ;P

FMAobsessed
I like that quote from Arakawa about how those who work hard will have a happy or bittersweet ending. But those who are suppose to die will die in a fitting place. It reminds me of Kimblee's end. A lot of people wanted Scar to finish him off and not Hienkel. But like we have mentioned Scar has evolved. Kimblee was the one who wanted to finish him. So by having Kimblee not be able to kill Scar was his greatest defeat.

I do believe that Envy will die. But I do not know how. I might have been on another board, but someone mentioned how Envy is the Philosopher's Stone, so he could be useful to Ed and Al. And imo I think that if Envy was used to help two human brothers regain their bodies back, that would be his worst punishment, because we all know how much Envy despises humans.

curious thought: Was anyone laughing when they saw Envy back in his true form and he goes "Damn it not again?" I did. If I am the only one then I have a dark sense of humor.

crazyanimefan
I know someone said this before and I agree. I think Riza had no idea that "Roy" was in fact Roy!Envy. She was probably just suspicious and then set up the situation so that if "Roy" looked at her in alarm when she pulled the "He always calls me Riza" line then she knew it was Envy. I guess... I dunno, it kinda makes sense.
Claudius
QUOTE (FMAobsessed @ Apr 11 2009, 04:32 PM) *
I do believe that Envy will die. But I do not know how. I might have been on another board, but someone mentioned how Envy is the Philosopher's Stone, so he could be useful to Ed and Al. And imo I think that if Envy was used to help two human brothers regain their bodies back, that would be his worst punishment, because we all know how much Envy despises humans.
I dunno, that's too similar to the Anime, where AnimeEnvy suffered a similar punishment being used to reunite the two brothers he despised (alongside his father robbing him of the opportunity of praticide). Arakawa is trying to make things different.
With that point, I do believe the manga will spare its Roy the revenge & consequences that crippled his anime counterpart. However, I do think MangaRoy should be temporarily left in the sidelines, needing some time alone to ponder how close he came to losing everything. It'll strain credibility if Roy climaxes all that ape-nuts rage with a lucid and calm 'Let's go get Father!'
Blue_Haven
Um...hello everyone! I was on this thread a looooong time ago and I've been lurking for like, two years but the release of Brotherhood and Ch. 94 has got me so excited I can't contain myself anymore! biggrin.gif

Roy and Riza were awesome in this chapter and I can't wait for 95! (Who can?!)
I'm sure there will be a tender scene between the two of them in the upcoming chapters. Her loyalty to him his just amazing.
And along with the help of Ed and Scar, I think Riza will be able to snap Roy out of his berserker rage. It's just how they're going to do it is what's interesting to think about.

And your sig is just beautiful amestris_star! Choco Queen is one of my favorite Royai fan-artists! biggrin.gif
Turdaewen
Welcome, Blue_Haven!!! \o/ The more, the marrier XD

QUOTE (Claudius @ Apr 11 2009, 11:43 PM) *
QUOTE (FMAobsessed @ Apr 11 2009, 04:32 PM) *
I do believe that Envy will die. But I do not know how. I might have been on another board, but someone mentioned how Envy is the Philosopher's Stone, so he could be useful to Ed and Al. And imo I think that if Envy was used to help two human brothers regain their bodies back, that would be his worst punishment, because we all know how much Envy despises humans.
I dunno, that's too similar to the Anime, where AnimeEnvy suffered a similar punishment being used to reunite the two brothers he despised (alongside his father robbing him of the opportunity of praticide). Arakawa is trying to make things different.
With that point, I do believe the manga will spare its Roy the revenge & consequences that crippled his anime counterpart. However, I do think MangaRoy should be temporarily left in the sidelines, needing some time alone to ponder how close he came to losing everything. It'll strain credibility if Roy climaxes all that ape-nuts rage with a lucid and calm 'Let's go get Father!'

Yes \o/ Sometimes you amaze me, Claudius! ^^ Really XD
jacksparrow589
Turdaewen- Thanks for the translation on that picture!

Hmmm... I'm in the "Roy's coming this close to falling and then realizing it later is punishment enough" camp. Of course, that brings on a whole new wave of depression, and we're gonna need Riza there to stop that. I can see the "as close to mushy as it gets" Royai already!
FMAobsessed
@Claudius: Yes, you do have a point about mangaEnvy and animeenvy. It is hard to predict what Arakawa will do. That is why I love FMA it is not a manga where the reader goes "yeah who didn't see that coming." I want Envy to die, but I don't want him to die by the hand of Roy if it means that emo Roy returns.

Also I agree that after Roy calms down he won't follow Ed and Scar to Father's lair. It would not make sense to have him go on his Roy rampage, then be perfectly fine. Besides I think that the whole Father story line is an Elric family fight. In the meantime Roy can apologize to Riza for swearing and yelling at her when she was only protecting him from himself.
Saving_Grace
Personally, I want Envy to live. I think it'd be awesome if he had to live the rest of his life as a little slug in a jar, watching the humans. They could sell him to a circus. :-)

QUOTE (RoyxRizaFan @ Apr 12 2009, 05:06 AM) *
But Saving Grace, your avatar = WIN

"I'm Old Greeeeegggg!"
Yeah, I'm a little Boosh-obsessed at the moment.
amestris_star
Has anyone seen Ep 2? My Royai senses tingled a couple of times *grins*
Alzea
Yeah, so was mine~! Riza and Winry's talk~! Flashback was great and the Truth guy was the best thing in this ep for me biggrin.gif Nah, It reminds me how much I can't wait to see chapter 94 animated...
amestris_star
QUOTE (Alzea @ Apr 12 2009, 11:01 AM) *
Yeah, so was mine~! Riza and Winry's talk~! Flashback was great and the Truth guy was the best thing in this ep for me biggrin.gif Nah, It reminds me how much I can't wait to see chapter 94 animated...


Yeps! And...
Have you noticed that they were interchanging quickly from Roy to Riza while they were talking? I need to confirm through the spoilers whether Riza said the: "There is someone I need to protect." phrase... >)
Alzea
Yep, I saw this.
She said it, i'm sure she said. I can't really repeat now what she said there but I somehow managed to understand this part. Only one thing which I remember its this word 'mamoru' so she probably said it just as it was in the manga^^
amestris_star
QUOTE (Alzea @ Apr 12 2009, 11:14 AM) *
Yep, I saw this.
She said it, i'm sure she said. I can't really repeat now what she said there but I somehow managed to understand this part. Only one thing which I remember its this word 'mamoru' so she probably said it just as it was in the manga^^


Which makes the episode even more awesome >D
black~hayate
I want to watch the 2nd. episode, too!
Where can I find it? With eng. subtitles of course xD.

The 94. chapter was awesome! I want to talk about it night and day, but I don't have friends who are fans of this (AWESOOOOOME and my favourite) pairing.
Hmm...
Maybe Hawkeye lied when she said that she lied about the "he calls me Riza when we are alone, but I lied"-thing because she has to keep it professional? Who understands what I mean? xD
Alzea
English subs aren't out yet, just wait one or two more hours, but raw is already out (since an hour or so) tongue.gif
Welcome to the Royai thread and FMA Discussion Board, black~hayate! We all talk about it all the time so just talk with us^^
I do understand what you mean but well, we were discussing this already and someone came up with idea that Riza knew that was Envy because Roy was too calm and told Riza to follow him, real Roy would probably told her to stay and don't come near him, because it's dangerous. She just said it to check if she is right. Well even if she said she was kidding, we all know the truth xD
black~hayate
aw, okay, I think I can wait 2 more days xD
Wow, thank you for welcome-ing me, very nice xD
About the manga... yep... might be true... I hope there won't be shots in the next chapter O_O
Right, we all know the truth... hahaha blush.gif

We need to open an chapter 95 discussion thread and collect Ideas (just a suggestion).
And... cool avatar you have here, Alzea ^_____^
Alzea
Huh, why days, hours my dear, hours! x]
You're welcome biggrin.gif
I think predictions on chapter 95 we can easily write here, a bunch of them is there already^^
Thank you~! Nah, it's obvious everyone loves Royai~!
amestris_star
Welcome black~hayate! Everyone loves our dearest doggie biggrin.gif

And I know how you feel about Chapter 95... I've already started the countdown for the next chapter myself!
black~hayate
QUOTE (amestris_star @ Apr 12 2009, 06:05 AM) *
Welcome black~hayate! Everyone loves our dearest doggie biggrin.gif

And I know how you feel about Chapter 95... I've already started the countdown for the next chapter myself!


Yeah, only 29 days left xD. Also thank you for welcome-ing me, too ^___^
Wah! Everywhere is Royai. I'm in heaven~

Azlea, hours???
*runs search subs*
Thx for the link, I'll behave and post everything where it (or where it should) belong(s)
Alshemi
QUOTE (black~hayate @ Apr 12 2009, 02:27 PM) *
Yeah, only 29 days left xD.

Only? You sure are optimistic wink.gif That’s nearly whole month of waiting..

QUOTE (Alzea @ Apr 12 2009, 11:14 AM) *
Only one thing which I remember its this word 'mamoru' so she probably said it just as it was in the manga^^

She’s saying sth like: “Mamorubeki hito-ga iru kara” – “Because there’s person I must protect” How sweet ^.^

Does Riza only for me look deformed? Her face is more like a square (or rectangle to be more precise) than oval. An that looks strange. I hope they will fix it..

black~hayate
QUOTE (Alshemi @ Apr 12 2009, 06:15 AM) *
QUOTE (black~hayate @ Apr 12 2009, 02:27 PM) *
Yeah, only 29 days left xD.

Only? You sure are optimistic wink.gif That’s nearly whole month of waiting..


To tell you the truth, it's killing me, I hate waiting xD
Saving_Grace
I haven't seen the new series yet, I'd rather wait for the English dub. Just wondering though, how is it? I know it only just started but I'm curious as to how it's going. Is it dead on to the manga? Is the animation good? Better or worse than the first anime?
Tombow
About FMA anime "Brotherhood" episode -2...
QUOTE (amestris_star @ Apr 12 2009, 05:09 AM) *
QUOTE (Alzea @ Apr 12 2009, 11:01 AM) *
Yeah, so was mine~! Riza and Winry's talk~! Flashback was great and the Truth guy was the best thing in this ep for me biggrin.gif Nah, It reminds me how much I can't wait to see chapter 94 animated...

Yeps! And...
Have you noticed that they were interchanging quickly from Roy to Riza while they were talking? I need to confirm through the spoilers whether Riza said the: "There is someone I need to protect." phrase... >)

@amestris_star - Yap, Riza certainly says that in this episode.
Made me happy that they included that part from manga!! biggrin.gif

@Saving_Grace - About FMA-2 anime. The official subbed version (English) is already out, and official French and Chinese subs should be out soon, if not already, if you're interested. biggrin.gif You can check out more info on the first post of Where to watch FMA-2 thread. And, the DVD of first 2 episodes will be out in August also. ^^

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Also... Welcome/Welcome back, Blue_Haven and black~hayate!! biggrin.gif
black~hayate
QUOTE (Saving_Grace @ Apr 12 2009, 06:18 AM) *
I haven't seen the new series yet, I'd rather wait for the English dub. Just wondering though, how is it? I know it only just started but I'm curious as to how it's going. Is it dead on to the manga? Is the animation good? Better or worse than the first anime?


My opinion:
It's much better animated than the first one.
And it should be manga like, but well... the first episode wasn't. But I heard, the second one is alot of more manga-like.
There are discussions about the new series, there's everything you want to know.

Ah, the Royai in the series is great, too xD
How Riza gave Roy new gloves (her glove set is awesome xD) and how his flames became huge after Riza called him useless ^___^ Ah you know what I mean xD
jacksparrow589
I so called that one! (Not that it wasn't gonna happen, but I just had to say that.) I'm talking about episode 2 basically being volume 6 of the manga in a nutshell, minus a lot of the boys' time with Izumi. I was VERY happy when the whole alternating Roy/Riza lines happened.

Ah, welcome, black~hayate! I know most of the people here have welcomed you already. I just happen to live a few time zones behind most people here, and I need my sleep.
black~hayate
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Apr 12 2009, 08:00 AM) *
Ah, welcome, black~hayate! I know most of the people here have welcomed you already. I just happen to live a few time zones behind most people here, and I need my sleep.


Don't worry, I am from Germany (I think we have time zone +1), I also lie some time zones away from the others.

amestris_star, can you tell me where you have this awesome picture from? The art to chapter 94, yeah, Roy Riza hugging. Looks good, I cannot find the galery from the artist.
Hakoyanagi
Aaaaaa they animated that part?!? Is a sub out yet??? MUST WATCH. MUST WATCH. MUST WATCH.

And welcome Black~Hayate! Yup 29 more days!! I'm so impatient for FMA updates that I keep a little countdown on the corner of my cell phone to the 10th of the next month. Yes, I know I have issues XD
amestris_star
QUOTE (Hakoyanagi @ Apr 12 2009, 05:44 PM) *
Aaaaaa they animated that part?!? Is a sub out yet??? MUST WATCH. MUST WATCH. MUST WATCH.

And welcome Black~Hayate! Yup 29 more days!! I'm so impatient for FMA updates that I keep a little countdown on the corner of my cell phone to the 10th of the next month. Yes, I know I have issues XD


You're not the only one believe me wink.gif I'm doing that too but not on the cell, on the pc XD
We all have issues here LOL

PS. Yep they animated that part >D Go check out the subs now! biggrin.gif
black~hayate
QUOTE (Hakoyanagi @ Apr 12 2009, 08:44 AM) *
Aaaaaa they animated that part?!? Is a sub out yet??? MUST WATCH. MUST WATCH. MUST WATCH.

And welcome Black~Hayate! Yup 29 more days!! I'm so impatient for FMA updates that I keep a little countdown on the corner of my cell phone to the 10th of the next month. Yes, I know I have issues XD


Heya xD
I am already tired from waiting for next chapter, if I make a countdown, i will DIE looking at it *lol*
Gimme dog food someone, to rise my mood xD
Alzea
Yeah, sub is already out^^
black~hayate, it's from here: http://www.geocities.jp/yn_cq/
I'm from Poland btw xP
amestris_star
QUOTE (black~hayate @ Apr 12 2009, 05:49 PM) *
Gimme dog food someone, to rise my mood xD


If you see mummy and daddy kissing (Roy and Riza of course) would that improve your mood Buraha? >D
rainbowcatgirl
wouldn't it be great if new chapters came out every week, that my friends would be AMAZING !


biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
black~hayate
QUOTE (amestris_star @ Apr 12 2009, 09:52 AM) *
QUOTE (black~hayate @ Apr 12 2009, 05:49 PM) *
Gimme dog food someone, to rise my mood xD


If you see mummy and daddy kissing (Roy and Riza of course) would that improve your mood Buraha? >D


OMG!!! OF COURSE!!! *wags tail*




QUOTE (Alzea @ Apr 12 2009, 09:50 AM) *
Yeah, sub is already out^^
black~hayate, it's from here: http://www.geocities.jp/yn_cq/
I'm from Poland btw xP


Aww thx ^^
The site is hard to navigate, I can barely see anything, but I'll manage wink.gif.
From Poland? Niiice ^^. German FMA fans are strange O___o xD
FMAobsessed
Has a week flown by already? I forgot that a new episode would be coming out. I don't know if I have time to watch today because Easter dinner with my family. BTW all that celebrate Easter: Happy Easter!
black~hayate
QUOTE (FMAobsessed @ Apr 12 2009, 10:37 AM) *
Has a week flown by already? I forgot that a new episode would be coming out. I don't know if I have time to watch today because Easter dinner with my family. BTW all that celebrate Easter: Happy Easter!

yay, happy easter to you too!
I had my easter dinner already and watched the episode.
Blue_Haven
Happy Easter! Wow, the subs out already? I'm glad there are a lot of dedicated people out there willing to do that!!
At least we have the new series to keep us preoccupied while we're waiting for the next chapter!!
black~hayate
Yeah, I was really happy, too! The link to the video is in the...new anime topic ^___^.

Causmicfire
I really enjoyed episode 2, the pace is going quite quickly still.

As soon as I saw Roy and Riza enter the Elric home, I started getting excited for the talk between Riza and Winry, and I think they did a good job of it.

I wonder if they'll animate some of the side stories, like the one about Riza growing out her hair/Winry piercing her ears.
Alzea
QUOTE (Causmicfire @ Apr 12 2009, 08:41 PM) *
I wonder if they'll animate some of the side stories, like the one about Riza growing out her hair/Winry piercing her ears.
I hope they will, I mean it's really nice story (and Rebecca is making her appearance), but gaiden from the BLUE they can animate with volume 15, I don't really know when gaiden from RED should be (something right now maybe?)

Off-topic:
Easter Dinner? We have Easter Breakfast tongue.gif
Turdaewen
And we have Easter Lunch!!! tongue.gif
spectator
I really can't wait until the animated chapter 94 is out. I wonder if Riza will smack Roy on the head or the face. if that happens, it will relieve all the angst in the manga. Maybe with sweatdrops. laugh.gif
black~hayate
off topic (sorry):
And I'm full because of the whole easter lunches I had today... xD
Makika
Hahaha, I don't see the 2nd chapter yet... Just later.

Happy Easter for everyone biggrin.gif


Here in Brazil we have a Easter Breakfast, Easter Lunch, Easter Dinner... Oh, i'm full of food. hsuihsuis. It's like Christimas or Thanksgiving (We don't have thanksgiving, but we have the All Saints Party, called Junina's party too, ah, and the Carnaval biggrin.gif)
black~hayate
QUOTE (Makika @ Apr 12 2009, 01:06 PM) *
Hahaha, I don't see the 2nd chapter yet... Just later.

Happy Easter for everyone biggrin.gif


Here in Brazil we have a Easter Breakfast, Easter Lunch, Easter Dinner... Oh, i'm full of food. hsuihsuis. It's like Christimas or Thanksgiving (We don't have thanksgiving, but we have the All Saints Party, called Junina's party too, ah, and the Carnaval biggrin.gif)


You mean episode, NOT chapter =D.
Good appetite then and have fun while celebrateing.
Your sig is great, I luv it.
Turdaewen
QUOTE (Makika @ Apr 12 2009, 04:06 PM) *
Hahaha, I don't see the 2nd chapter yet... Just later.

Happy Easter for everyone biggrin.gif


Here in Brazil we have a Easter Breakfast, Easter Lunch, Easter Dinner... Oh, i'm full of food. hsuihsuis. It's like Christimas or Thanksgiving (We don't have thanksgiving, but we have the All Saints Party, called Junina's party too, ah, and the Carnaval biggrin.gif)

Really?? I only have lunch... sad.gif I'm so unlucky! XD

Yeah... Arakawa really needs to lighten up a little the next episode... it's just too much tense!! sad.gif
Not that I don't enjoy it, but I'm kinda getting really sad and worried.
Alzea
I have only breakfast but I had so many cakes already and I'm full xD That's why I like and at the same time hate holidays, I eat way too much x]

Back on topic:
I still believe Arakawa will make a happy ending for this chapter. Somehow they will help Roy. As my friend said it:
"I'm telling you. It'll be like this. Roy will start yelling and he will try to attack them, then Riza will say "Enough of it!" She will hug him, then he will snap out of his trans and fall on his knees. It'll be over. Riza will kill Envy. I'm genius, am I not?"
Nah, I really want something like this to happen.
black~hayate
QUOTE (Alzea @ Apr 12 2009, 12:44 PM) *
I have only breakfast but I had so many cakes already and I'm full xD That's why I like and at the same time hate holidays, I eat way too much x]

Back on topic:
I still believe Arakawa will make a happy ending for this chapter. Somehow they will help Roy. As my friend said it:
"I'm telling you. It'll be like this. Roy will start yelling and he will try to attack them, then Riza will say "Enough of it!" She will hug him, then he will snap out of his trans and fall on his knees. It'll be over. Riza will kill Envy. I'm genius, am I not?"
Nah, I really want something like this to happen.


Uh. I really hope that it will happen like you said, but my instincts tell me that there will be a kinda conflict before everything will be nice and good...

...
maybe...she'll shoot...?
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