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CodenameElizabeth
QUOTE (AndroidLust @ Dec 23 2008, 03:25 AM) *
First of all, for Riza, get rid of the choker. I don`t think chokers have been acceptable since the 90`s, haha. However,she could replace the choker with a tastful necklace. Also, take out the strange little neck tie and bow and just make the dress a strapless.


So... pretty much massacre the entire thing! laugh.gif
Yeah. It needs a bit more than just tweaking.

QUOTE (AndroidLust @ Dec 23 2008, 03:25 AM) *
And I think Winry wouldn`t be that opposed to a pink dress, as long as it wasn`t that color pink.


THIS. (God... WHY PASTELS? WHY???)

I think Winry would wear This pink dress... Better shade for winter. Pastel screams spring. Volume is good, but the layered, hippie-dippy ruffles on that pic are just hideous. At least the ruffled dress you posted was classy and sophisticated.

Also, Riza.
The arm warmers were REALLY what killed that outfit for me.

Got WTF is wrong with me?
I am costume designing for fictional characters. ohmy.gif
crazyanimefan
Ick, the arm warmers. Just...no. I do like the idea of Riza and a LBD. It's a timeless classic that would look great on her.
Blysse
QUOTE (Hey @ Dec 22 2008, 03:38 AM) *
Hawkeye's katakana name is 'HOOKUAI', and there's where the 'ai' comes from. Plus, 'ai' also means love in Japanese.
I'm not being a busybody, am I?
:3


Thanks for that! biggrin.gif I always knew that 'ai' was love in Japanese, but I never knew about the katakana
RoyxRizaFan
XD Yeah that IS quite the outfit. Perhaps you guys shoud design for the anime XD You seem to know a hell lot more than them.

It gets 'better'


crazyanimefan
Is that...lavender?! *shiver* The picture is cute though. I love Elysia and Winry.
jacksparrow589
^Yeah, I think I dislike the lavender... thing... more than the outfit in that other picture. Lose the hat and change the shade and we're off to a good start. But Elysia and Winry made me smile. (So did Al in a Santa hat.)

On the Royai side of things, it's not too hard to guess what Maes is probably telling Roy to do. Who's with me on that one?
Hey
Other than the lavender, I actually prefer that outfit to the other picture's xD
I totally have no fashion sense.

But the Christmas party looks fun, huh. I've never ever attended one before. *sob*
CodenameElizabeth
Re: Xmas Picture.

HA HA HA. OH WOW. Lavender.
(DO NOT WANT.)

Riza's outfit reminds me of Bianca the mouse from Disney's "The Rescuers."
PIC RELATED:

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The picture overall is great though.
I love Fuery as the little waiter-dude. Made me giggle...
FailToImpress
Haha, I love that christmas party picture.
Al in a santa hat! Aw.

It's a little hard to see, but is Denny holding a present behind his back for Maria? Wait, yeah he is, and he's nervous! Poor man. That's really cute.
jacksparrow589
Liz- Blast from the past! It IS Bianca! Great observation! (I may have to watch that movie again. I haven't seen it in YEARS.)
RoyxRizaFan
Well, she's headed in a better direction...

http://theotaku.com/wallpapers/view/169693...ns_attack_%2521

I just randomly found this...

(How can Roy not be concerned about the cat that has the potential of crapping on his head???)

I don't get the picture, but...just look at her outfit...XDDD
crazyanimefan
Well, it's definitely better than the other ones that we've seen. I think the style looks quite nice on her.

And to me, it kinda looks like Roy is sneaking a peek at her cleavage. >< Maybe, maybe not.

EDIT: I wrote my very first FMA fic. It's not holiday related, but I felt inspired and wrote it in about 10-15 minutes. Here's a LINK! I hope you guys like it! Give me some feedback if you do read it.
RoyxRizaFan
Merry Christmas, everyone!!!

@ crazyanimefan: I read it and dropped you a review! Great job LOL
jacksparrow589
A very Merry Christmas to you all!

crazyanimefan- Great first FMA fic! very cute. I didn't log in out of laziness, but that did not stop me from enjoying your fic or leaving a review. I liked it very much!
crazyanimefan
Merry Christmas!

And thanks guys. Positive feedback makes me warm and fuzzy inside. biggrin.gif

And I just realized this, but Roy and Riza's relationship reminds me of Shunsui and Nanao from Bleach. The meticulous and sometimes stern subordinate keeps her womanising, laid back superior officer in line, but no matter how different the two are, they always manage to get along and fill in for the other's mistakes.
CodenameElizabeth
Haha-- Shunsui and Nanao. One of my favorite pair from BEACH.
I noticed the comparison too.

I wonder if that kitty wallpaper is "official" art or not. Certainly look like official (ie: BONES) art.
If it is, dayumn of EdWin and RoyAi are not designed to be OTP. SO MUCH of the official FMA art features the characters paired up in this way. (Also Denny and Maria.)

I made a post on this WAY BACK... now more art surfaces to prove me right.

http://www.fullmetal-alchemist.com/forums/...st&p=630722
Hey
It is official art. It's in the 3rd TV animation artbook.
crazyanimefan
I saw the Royai mini-poster thing you posted and was like "o.O I want it." Alas, it's $50! I dont have that kind of money to spend.



And I wonder...if Roy and Riza were to ever have a child or children, what would they name them? It's a question that has been driving me insane, partially because I have no creativity and partially because I think I have another fic idea in mind. Naturally, I assume Roy would want to name one of them after Maes (Maes? Mae or Mea as a feminine version?).
Hey
QUOTE (crazyanimefan @ Dec 26 2008, 01:11 PM) *
And I wonder...if Roy and Riza were to ever have a child or children, what would they name them?
For some reason I was thinking of Christine, even though that name doesn't seem to have any relevance to anywhere o_o

Maes Mustang? Sounds a bit weird, but I wouldn't think it's too absurd for Roy to name his child that way. |P
crazyanimefan
QUOTE (Hey @ Dec 26 2008, 07:13 AM) *
QUOTE (crazyanimefan @ Dec 26 2008, 01:11 PM) *
And I wonder...if Roy and Riza were to ever have a child or children, what would they name them?
For some reason I was thinking of Christine, even though that name doesn't seem to have any relevance to anywhere o_o

Maes Mustang? Sounds a bit weird, but I wouldn't think it's too absurd for Roy to name his child that way. |P


Hm...I wanna say Roy's mom. I think they refer to her as Chris, which may be a shortened version of Christine. But that's a beautiful name.

Yeah, the double Ms looks and sounds a bit odd, but I rather like it.

For some reason, I want to think of an odd name with a normal nickname. For example, my cousin's nephew is named Orion, but they call him Rion, which is pronounced like Ryan.
Causmicfire
Arghhhh! Lost my post.


I hope everyone had a good Christmas/Holiday!

@Liz - lol, a real miniskirt army.

@J.S. - Good fics. I liked the idea of Solstice instead of Christmas, since Arakawa has said there is no Christmas in the FMA world.

@Crzayanimefan- I enjoyed reading you fic, too. The last line was great!

I agree with Maes and Chris for Mustang baby names. Elizabeth is another one I want to throw in there.

I was finally able to get around to posting my fics, well 2 of 3.

The first one is more Olivier-centric, with some Royai in there! It's Tradition

The second is young Roy and Riza during Christmastime, in which I intentionally ignore that Arakawa has said Christmas doesn't happen in the FMA world. Milk and Cookies
jacksparrow589
Causmicfire- I like them both! They're very good! (I just woke up, so putting together exactly what is so good isn't something my brain wants to do at the moment. Sorry.)
Hey
QUOTE (crazyanimefan @ Dec 26 2008, 11:40 PM) *
Hm...I wanna say Roy's mom. I think they refer to her as Chris, which may be a shortened version of Christine. But that's a beautiful name.

I totally forgot about Chris xD
My brother suggested 'Reine Mustang'. I think reine is French of something, but I'm not really sure. :\ Sounds like a girl name, though.

This is out of nowhere, but I realised one of the kids in FMA Chapter 23 (vol. 6) looks like a kid Mustang :P

@Causmicfire:
The first fic amused me, with Olivia's reactions towards Mustang.
And I think the second one's really cute ^^ But it makes me hungry reading it at the same time. I really wonder how handmade cookies taste like, hmm.

You should give me all your ideas. With my sort of brain it's impossible to write any good fics xD
But really, I like them :>
crazyanimefan
@causmic: Those were wonderful fics. I enjoyed the Olivier fic a lot, mostly because I've grown to really like her character. The Royai was absolutely adorable. Even the most subtle actions make their relationship even sweeter.

As for another Royai baby name, I really want to say Claire as a possibility.
CodenameElizabeth
I still stand by my theory that Roy and Riza are not the kind of couple who would have children. I do not see Riza as having much of a maternal instinct, and Roy is incredibly career-focused. (ie: Riza would NOT put her own career on hold to nurture a kid while Roy rises in the ranks etc. Etc.)

They are both stubborn and headstrong and I don;t think either of them would compromise to the extent necessary to decide on having a child, even though I am a fan of the idea of Roy naming a son after Maes Hughes.

Now, don't get me wrong, I think the two are incredibly PROTECTIVE, in as much as they want to protect Edward and his crew whenever possible. This comes with the territory of their jobs as soldiers. But as far as a 24/7 "duty" of nurturing their OWN child? I just can't see it happening based on their characters/personalities.
RoyxRizaFan
@ causmicfire - Loved both your stories! I left you reviews.

As for the kids, I like those names, but I think that CodenameElizabeth makes a really good point. At this point they're way too busy with other things to think of having kids...that'd probably be WAY down the road if they ever decide to, once things settle down and show no sign of getting hectic again.

I can dream, though LOL
Turdaewen
Hey, everyone!
Merry Xmas!!! (yeah, that was late XD)

Are we talking again about Roy and Riza's children? Like I said before, I agree with CodenameElizabeth. But, thinking again, maybe... I mean, Riza is not your everyday mom, that's for sure, but I can see her being maternal. A very discipline strict mom! XD She has a soft side of her that seems to show, sometimes.
Though I think Roy's the only one who trully notices that.
crazyanimefan
I agree with you and all of your reasons, CodenameElizabeth, that right now, Roy and Riza would probably not have kids. In the future, most definitely. I have this future-fic idea, as in WAY into the future like a good twenty or twenty five years, that I really want to write and it involves a Royai child, Elysia, and maybe a HavocxRebecca (whose couple name I do not know) kid.
CodenameElizabeth
I am not only thinking of present, I am ALSO referring to future when I say that they would not have children.

It is a given that "now is not the time", but I do not think that either exhibit the personalities that would gravitate to raising a family together. I like to think that they have other ambitions.

(OTOH, I CAN see Ed and Winry having children. Winry could be a strict mommy too... kind of the 'bad cop' to Ed's 'good cop' of a daddy. And I can just see her training a daughter in automail mechanics just as her grandmother trained her.)
crazyanimefan
Ah, I understand. I agree with the present case and even the near future, but in the distant future...I dunno, maybe it's just my inner romantic to see them start a family. Still, the idea of them as parents is rather adorable, though perhaps not as probable.
CodenameElizabeth
Well, actually, you make a great point there. (About the "inner romantic" thing.)

I guess that one fo the main reasons that I like this relationship and can relate to it is because I am NOT a romantic. (Which, alas, has lead to the demise of many relationships past for me.) RxR's relationship seems built on many other things other than stereotypical 'romantic' love, and I can totally buy that. It just seems "real" and deeper to me for some strange reason.
FMAobsessed
I agree with CodenameElizabeth about how Roy and Riza's relationship is built on trust and that makes it "real" and "deeper" than other anime/manga couples. But I still wish for some moment that will say that they will be together.
Turdaewen
QUOTE (crazyanimefan @ Dec 30 2008, 10:12 PM) *
Ah, I understand. I agree with the present case and even the near future, but in the distant future...I dunno, maybe it's just my inner romantic to see them start a family. Still, the idea of them as parents is rather adorable, though perhaps not as probable.

It is cute! XD
But also, I think about that 'way in the future' thing, because... well, Roy's already 30 and Riza's at least 26, which means that, if they wait 15, 20 years they would be in their 40's, which makes the hole having children idea a little too... late?
If they WERE to have children, it would have to be in the near future (ten years, tops), which makes the idea of having them even more distant.
crazyanimefan
I totally agree with FMAObsessed. I understand that their relationship is deeper and built on trust, loyalty, duty, and other things, but sometimes I also wish that they could have a family.

Turdaewen, thanks for reminding me. I keep forgeting that Roy and Riza are considerably older than many ships I've ever shipped. Still, even as they age, I dont think that at 40 it's impossible to have children, but I agree that that is pushing it.

Hm...I seem to be boxing myself in with this. XP
Hey
To add more, things probably won't get settled right away after the storyline since there'll probably be some unsettlement in the military, especially if Roy becomes Fuhrer and all that. He just won't be able to sit down with peace of mind with the military problems.

I agree that 40's a little old for children, but personally I think if they are going to have children, 15 years waiting seems a little long. :P

Btw, Happy New Year to everybody! Have a great year ahead! :D
(though really, it's almost 4 hours past New Year, and my sleeping time)
crazyanimefan
You too! It's about seven and a half hours until New Year's in the Midwest USA. I'm excited!!

Hm...there's always hope for adoption, I suppose, but even that wouldn't work out so well. Unless they adopted, like, a twenty-five year old when they're around fifty, that is.
Hey
Have a good New Year when it comes, then ^^

QUOTE (crazyanimefan @ Jan 1 2009, 06:25 AM) *
Unless they adopted, like, a twenty-five year old when they're around fifty, that is.
If they (or anyone for that matter) were to adopt a child, I don't think they'd choose a twenty-five year old.
Because most people adopt when they're unable to conceive, as they want a child to take care of. At twenty-five, that child (or adult) probably doesn't need much care anymore and can go off to work and stuff, so that defeats the purpose. So if they were to adopt anyone it'd probably be children, I guess.
:P

Adopt Ed and Al xD
crazyanimefan
QUOTE (Hey @ Jan 1 2009, 05:06 AM) *
Adopt Ed and Al xD


Hecks yes! Lol, I was thinking about that. On the topic of the adoption, I've always thought Roy and Riza to be parental figures. Ed and Al pretty much have been adopted into their "family." Ah well, children or no, Roy and Riza make a beautiful couple.
CodenameElizabeth
QUOTE (Turdaewen @ Dec 31 2008, 01:16 PM) *
But also, I think about that 'way in the future' thing, because... well, Roy's already 30 and Riza's at least 26, which means that, if they wait 15, 20 years they would be in their 40's, which makes the hole having children idea a little too... late?


Oh yeah. I forgot that late 20's early 30's is ANCIENT. confused.gif
Yep. should probably go cry myself to sleep now... I tend to keep forgetting that I often times wander into the "land of 15-year-olds" particularly when dealing with fandom-type internet forums.


Also, age 25 = older than age 18. Age 18 = "legally an adult" therefore no longer a candidate for adoption.
Turdaewen
QUOTE (CodenameElizabeth @ Jan 2 2009, 01:48 AM) *
QUOTE (Turdaewen @ Dec 31 2008, 01:16 PM) *
But also, I think about that 'way in the future' thing, because... well, Roy's already 30 and Riza's at least 26, which means that, if they wait 15, 20 years they would be in their 40's, which makes the hole having children idea a little too... late?


Oh yeah. I forgot that late 20's early 30's is ANCIENT. confused.gif
Yep. should probably go cry myself to sleep now... I tend to keep forgetting that I often times wander into the "land of 15-year-olds" particularly when dealing with fandom-type internet forums.


Also, age 25 = older than age 18. Age 18 = "legally an adult" therefore no longer a candidate for adoption.

I've never said being late 20's is ancient! Of course it isn't! :s I'm 24, which means I would be 'close to ancient'?? Then, my bf would be ancient, cause he's 27!

I actually think that Riza and Roy's age is the perfect age, cause you're still young, but have a career, already, and your own house and means of life. And not dependent on parents anymore (which is kind of a burden I still have to carry, hopefully, not for long).

What I said is just that is not very possible for Roy and Riza to WAIT so long as 20 years to have kids, because, in 20 years they will be in their late 40's, going to 50's. And that's not AT ALL an age to have children.
If they were to have children, it would be within the next 10 years. (Which is a very good time) But that doesn't mean at ALL that they're 'beyond age'. But they WOULD be, in 20 years.

30+20= 50 (I don't think most people would actually want to have children at that age)


And you're right. You can only adopt people who are considered 'underage', not an adult.
Sannom
QUOTE
30+20= 50 (I don't think most people would actually want to have children at that age)


I'm pretty sure most women would not be able to huh.gif
crazyanimefan
Wow, I feel a bit ignorant about the whole "adoption" idea. >< Gosh darnit. I should do some research before I post...
jacksparrow589
Just kind of weighing in on this-- I agree with the idea that kids are not gonna happen for Roy and Riza. At least, not in the biological sense. I like the idea that there's been a sort of emotional adoption of Ed and Al.

Now, I have written a few fics where they do have kids, but I'm now seeing that it's pretty unrealistic. They're not old (Poor Liz... just remember that old is always 10 years ahead of you!), but with the amount of time it would take to settle things down, and the very likely possibility that there will be work beyond that, parenting would be trying to fit more hours into a day than is possible.

Also, the point that they are not a couple as much in the romantic sense as some of us would like... I'm still coming to terms with that one. I believe it, but the romantic stuff is fun every once and a while. The whole "built on trust" relationship is a GREAT model, too. It runs incredibly deep, as Liz said somewhere up there.

Abrupt ending, but that's all I've got.
Turdaewen
QUOTE (Sannom @ Jan 2 2009, 02:35 PM) *
QUOTE
30+20= 50 (I don't think most people would actually want to have children at that age)


I'm pretty sure most women would not be able to huh.gif

lol Yeah... most wouldn't. XD

And they'll probably have no kids, even if they actually get together in the end.

And don't feel bad about not knowing, Crazyanimefan, it's just that adoption is a way of educating and sustaining kids, so, there's no point in adopting an adult, who's old and independent enough to get around on his/her own. ^^
Artixte
I can see Roy and Riza taking care of each other like a couple of shy lovers, but if they had shown more affection/care for each other in the anime/manga then I'd probably think a baby or children might be possible for them. I can't imagine Roy being Edward's foster father though, lol. Riza maybe in a way could be their mother, but Izumi was more likely to play a role as the Elric brothers' foster mother. I can definitely imagine Armstrong be their uncle for some reason.. Roy and Riza does have some chemical to their relationship though, they're already close in combat, thinking them as an actual couple will deepen their relationship. But I don't think all that happy and jazz stuff will happen whilst they're in the middle of wars, working for the military, putting up with the homunculi, that's a no-no fer sure. They're smarter than that, and they're decent & mature (Well, Riza mostly) adult characters that know the risks.
crazyanimefan
I had a Royai dream last night. They had a kid, a little boy who is nameless because of my memory, and named Havoc, Fuery, Falman, and Breda all godfather. Then they die and the four guys are left with taking care of the mini Mustang. It was kinda sad and endearing at the same time. >< It was a strange dream for sure, though, because it crossed over with Pokemon.
Makika
I had a dream with Royai a couple weeks ago too... I was reading the manga when I saw a kiss-royai, before the kiss they are talking about a bet (?). I remember of my happiness... That was really cool.

Yesterday I have seen a music where the "original voices" sing together, It's official and the name is Ame No Hi Wa No Thank You.
Here is the score:

Roy: Party
Shanpen no rain
(A rain of Champagne)
Sekushii na lady
(sexy Lady)
Kiss de esukooto
(A kiss for your escort)

Saa showtime
(Now is the Show Time)
Koi no message
(Through a message of love)
Nanoni moonlight
(The light of the moon)
Isshun de kieta
(Disappeared in an instant)

Riza:"ame no hi wa ureshii kedo, noo sankyuu"
(Riza: Rainy days are pleasant, but no thanks)
Roy:"oo..manukena lonely man"
(Roy: Ohh ... A fool and lonely man)
Riza:"demo sonna tokoro ga kiwi noyo"
(Riza: But this type of scene is cute)
Roy:"me ni shizuku ga shimiru"
(Roy: Drops entering our eyes)
Roy:Ima dakiyosete kono te de
Kimi ni hi wo tsuketai nosa
(Now I'll hold your hands
You'll see that I want to burn you)
< LOL³³³³

Riza:Tonight nijuuyo ji
Chotto shai na,
Hoshi wo sagasou
(Riza: That night, at midnight
Let's look at a star
This is a little scary)

Roy:Asu no asa sanjuugo ji
Kodoku kara,
Isshoni check out
(Roy: Tomorrow morning, at 11
We'll escape from the loneliness together)
< LOL

Riza:"zubunureno, saenai koinu mitai"
(Riza: You're like a puppy without skills)
Roy:"oo..i know munou"
(Roy: Ohh ... I know that I'm incompetent)
Riza:"demo itsumo tsuyokunakute ii noyo"
(Riza: But it is certainly not always be strong)
Roy:"hoho shizuku wo nuguu"
(Roy: Drying drops of your face)
< LOL
Riza:Ima dakishimete agetai
Mizu wo sasu hiniku na sairen
(Riza: Now, I wanna hug you in the strongest form)
Like a mermaid that alienates everyone)

Riza:"ame no hi wa ureshii kedo, noo sankyuu"
(Riza: Rainy days are pleasant, but no thanks.
Roy:"oo..manukena lonely man"
(Roy: Ohh ... A fool and lonely man)
Riza:"demo sonna tokoro ga kiwi no yo"
(Riza: But this type of scene is cute)
Roy:"me ni shizuku ga shimiru"
(Roy: Drops entering our eyes)

Roy&riza:Ima dakiyosete kono te de
Kimi ni hi wo tsuketai nosa
(Roy & Riza: (Now I'll hold your hands
You'll see that I want to burn you)




I don't know you, but for me this is a strong evidence of their relationship. ROYAI RLZ! *-*
Oh, here in Brazil some of the fans of FMA loves Royai, I hope we can see one of our dreams come true.
I hope you enjoy the music. (Youtube have)
Hey
QUOTE (Makika @ Jan 5 2009, 09:12 AM) *
Riza:Tonight nijuuyo ji
Chotto shai na,
Hoshi wo sagasou
(Riza: That night, at midnight
Let's look at a star
This is a little scary)

I thought this means something like 'let's search for a star' or something like that. (I saw a translation of this song a LOOOOONG time ago on LJ and I think it translates into something like that too, but my memory fails so maybe I got it wrong or something)

Anyway, I like the jazzy feel of the song (Is it jazz? I can't differentiate). I remember when I first heard it (like what? a year ago?), I wanted to try and imitate the background music of the song. Failed utterly, of course. D:

Listening to the song reminds me of the Swing Girls movie I watched yesterday. It was so TOTALLY AWESOME. 8D
Makika
Well, I translate the English part from a portuguese translation. I'm not a professional in English but I think it's regular. shuishusihs

Oh Yeah, the jazzy feel of the song is amazing. I think it have a little bit of Blues too.

Just 5 days for cap. 91, plx Hiromu, some Royai!!!
crazyanimefan
^That's the only thing I hate about having FMA a monthly series: waiting for it. ><
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