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AndroidLust
QUOTE (Causmicfire @ Nov 12 2008, 11:30 PM) *
lol, I didn't even connect the prompt with 30 Seconds to Mars, but the song kind of works for it. It's a very Roy-ish song.

that is true sleep.gif
"On a mountain he sits, not of gold but of sin
through the blood he can learn, see the lives that it took"


QUOTE (Causmicfire @ Nov 12 2008, 11:30 PM) *
Yes, but where are his parents? sad.gif

im gonna be optimistic and say theyre on vacation forever. in heaven.
sad.gif
RoyxRizaFan4ever
Havoc has a goatee! LOL. I dunno if it suits him or not. Glad to see him, Maria, Rebecca, etc. Even better to see Roy and Riza working together! biggrin.gif Now if only Hughes could come back...sad.gif And I don't know who Denny is, but does he look a lot like Ed if he were older, or is that just me?
RoyxRizaFan
^ Poor Denny. A lot of people have been forgetting him *cries* He's the guy who used to work with Ross before she was taken away who went to 5th lab and everything...

It's great to see Roy doing something again.

And I love Rebecca LOL

I don't know what to think of the goatee yet, either. I guess I'll just have to get used to it. Somehow, Havoc strikes me as the type who WOULD grow one, but I'm not sure if I like it or not yet...
Turdaewen
QUOTE (RoyxRizaFan @ Nov 15 2008, 01:01 PM) *
I don't know what to think of the goatee yet, either. I guess I'll just have to get used to it. Somehow, Havoc strikes me as the type who WOULD grow one, but I'm not sure if I like it or not yet...


I do! XD I think it suits him just fine! But I really wanted him to heal and be able to walk again (Where is Dr. Marco when you need him??)
jacksparrow589
On a different tangent than the rest of you all, I was really happy when Roy was all, "We're going to protect you with all we've got" to Mrs. Bradley. I feel sorry for the poor woman, and it was an excellent moment showing Roy's character and his determination to not take another innocent life. Actually, the whole battle was.

I also had something of a "YESSSS!" moment when Riza took her shot at that guy's foot. Serves him right. You mess with the hawk, you get the talons. (REALLY BAD PUN-CLICHE-TYPE-THING!)

I was completely unaware that Roy had soldiers on his side, though! I mean, other than Riza, Breda, Fuery, and Falman.

Havoc made me incredibly happy this chapter. I'm with RoyxRizaFan on the goatee, though. I'm not sure I like it, but Havoc's a goatee kind of guy.

Rebecca... Oh, how I laughed! She was awesome.

Olivier, however, is one whom I still distrust. I don't know what it is, but I just don't. I don't want to offend anyone who likes her, though, so I'll leave it at that.
Sannom
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I feel sorry for the poor woman, and it was an excellent moment showing Roy's character and his determination to not take another innocent life.


Yet I don't like the fact he is not completely honest with her, especially when his men are the ones responsible for the "removing" of her husband (I hope Mustang's aware of this, because if not, I think there would be a problem).
AndroidLust
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Nov 15 2008, 06:26 PM) *
I'm with RoyxRizaFan on the goatee, though. I'm not sure I like it, but Havoc's a goatee kind of guy.

I just dont understand why Havoc is all grungey and hairy now that he`s parapalegic. I mean, bro`s not really doing much, he should have time to shave, right? l:/

QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Nov 15 2008, 06:26 PM) *
Olivier, however, is one whom I still distrust. I don't know what it is, but I just don't. I don't want to offend anyone who likes her, though, so I'll leave it at that.

I`m with you on this. Ever since her introduction into the story I haven`t really trusted her. I feel like she`s too... mechanical I guess? Calculating, maybe? :x
jacksparrow589
Sannom- Touché. (O, I am slain!) I'm pretty sure he's aware of it, though, as he tells her he'll prove that their side is the right one. But you have a good point-- he's not entirely honest with her, and I have no way to justify that other than to quote Machiavelli on that one, which, in and of itself, is hardly justification. Does he get brownie points for what he does tell her, though?

Two (somewhat connected) theories:

1) I think that, to some extent, she's aware of what's going on, but won't admit it to herself. It's kind of like how Hamlet's Gertrude could be, if you assume she's innocent: she might suspect Claudius/Bradley, but she wants what's best, so she turns a blind eye to what's going on. Not that she's a bad person or anything, but she just wants to stay safe and happy, and not neccessarily at the cost of others.

2) Maybe it's just that the less she knows, the better. If Bradley didn't tell her anything, she has only her own knowledge to go off of, and the more people who know a secret, the better chance there is of a leak, statistically speaking. Mustang is, then, applying that same idea. He didn't flat out lie and say, "I support your husband," but I agree-- it's not right to keep something from her. He kind of did tell her what he was all about, if you read between the lines, though: "We'll win you over to our side." Sounds to me like, if Mrs. Bradley has enough wits about her at this point to put two and two together, it's pretty obvious that Mustang's against him. Scared out of your mind doesn't exactly make the best thinking conditions, though.
RoyxRizaFan
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Nov 15 2008, 09:26 PM) *
On a different tangent than the rest of you all, I was really happy when Roy was all, "We're going to protect you with all we've got" to Mrs. Bradley. I feel sorry for the poor woman, and it was an excellent moment showing Roy's character and his determination to not take another innocent life. Actually, the whole battle was.



ITA. I was really happy about that, too.

QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Nov 15 2008, 09:26 PM) *
Olivier, however, is one whom I still distrust. I don't know what it is, but I just don't. I don't want to offend anyone who likes her, though, so I'll leave it at that.


Yeah, this is how I've evaluated Olivia in a past thread:

QUOTE (RoyxRizaFan @ Sep 17 2008, 05:25 PM) *
Sorry, I have to add something to this Olivia discussion...

...She usually doesn't get on my nerves, and I have faith that she's on Roy's side. My problem with her is how she treats Alex. Somehow, i dont find it funny. How can she put him down for leaving the war, when she wasn't a part of it? She doesn't know it was like to have to kill innocent people and watch their bodies dropping all around her. Sure, she heard about it, but nothing is the same as being part of it, so she has no right to judge him since she doesn't know a thing about the circumstance.

Plus I loved Alex since he first showed up in volume 2, so having some newbie come in and treat him like sh*t isn't something I can really let by easily...


I don't hate her. I want to like her because she kicks butt and is wicked cool. It's interesting how she sits on the fence, and you never know which side she'll fall on. Sometimes, it's overkill, though, and some things about her annoy me so much that I forget what I like about her. I hate the thought of her being Fuhrer (she is not reliable and would not bring change) and I hate the thought of her with Roy (though this is thankfully less popular of an idea than I thought it was) and so on and so forth.

So overall I have no idea what I think of her over all. Kind of like Havoc's goatee! tongue.gif

Sannom
Olivia will end up with Buccanneer laugh.gif I'm pretty sure all the "normal" women in that family have a thing for big ad tall men, and her personality is kinda like Izumi's, and look at Sigu biggrin.gif (I still don't understand how those two can reproduce huh.gif ).

QUOTE
Does he get brownie points for what he does tell her, though?


I don't know... implying that her husband might want to toss her aside when he knows that he isn't the one in command, I just don't like it. Especially if Riza has told him about the fact that his wife is Bradley's only choice in his entire life, which we don't know.
jacksparrow589
^Not trying to call you out on this, but trying to clarify: How did you get that he's implying Bradley would toss her aside? (I can see some points where that could be the case, but I'm curious about what exactly made you think that.) Is it just when he says, "I don't know"?
Causmicfire
QUOTE (Sannom @ Nov 16 2008, 03:19 AM) *
Olivia will end up with Buccanneer laugh.gif I'm pretty sure all the "normal" women in that family have a thing for big ad tall men, and her personality is kinda like Izumi's, and look at Sigu biggrin.gif (I still don't understand how those two can reproduce huh.gif ).

QUOTE
Does he get brownie points for what he does tell her, though?


I don't know... implying that her husband might want to toss her aside when he knows that he isn't the one in command, I just don't like it. Especially if Riza has told him about the fact that his wife is Bradley's only choice in his entire life, which we don't know.



*waves her Oliveer flag*

Ever since Olivier showed up, I haven't been able to put my favorite FMA women into a list past Riza being first.


That last part is what I've been wondering about, too Sannom. Though, I have a feeling his disappearance was already being kept from her by the rest of the military. Father probably would have had them dispose of her at the end of the battle, if he won, that is, because she's useless to him.

Somehow, both Bradley and Selim have become attached to her, and I'm sure Father has no idea.

Ever since Bradley's conversation with Pride(since before we knew Selim was pride) I've thought he was more than a bit rebellious against Father. Now, if he figures out that Father doesn't care if she lives, what will he think about that?

Anyways, on to Roy and Riza.

It's great that the soldiers are bringing up Ishval. Aldo, perfect timing for Riza to shoot him in the foot. I love the (sort of)explanation as to how Roy's alchemy works.

Hey, Knox's son will have a lot of patients if everyone survives.

Poor Mustang, no one else is quite as loyal as his subordinates.

Rebecca wins for bringing presents, and rejecting Mustang at the same time. That keeps happening to him XD

J.S. - Great possibilities you've out out there!

Sannom
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Not trying to call you out on this, but trying to clarify: How did you get that he's implying Bradley would toss her aside?


Perharps not something as clear as that, but the simple fact that he says "I don't know" when he knows, I don' like. It puts her in doubt when he could so easily dispell them. That's a real moral pain for her not to know!

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Father probably would have had them dispose of her at the end of the battle, if he won, that is, because she's useless to him.


I don't think he would purposely ask them to kill her, he is too far from the action, in all meanings possible. The problem with Father is that he says "Do this" but he can't check how it's done because he doesn't understand how the human mind works. For him, humans are like insects, he couldn't care less about them, but it has a drawback : he is not aware of everything they do, and he doesn't see it when they start to bite him. You could compare him as a man who fell asleep on top of an ant hill : he doesn't sense the attacks, yet the ants are eating him alive, and he will never wake up to see it.

QUOTE
Ever since Bradley's conversation with Pride(since before we knew Selim was pride) I've thought he was more than a bit rebellious against Father.


Father looks like Jesus. Wrath was the 12th subject to receive Father's wrath. 12 was the number of the traitor Judas. Yeah, I definitely think that Wrath will get rebellious.
jacksparrow589
Sannom- Got it. Thanks for the answer!

Ooh! I want to see Wrath rebel! He and Selim really do care for Mrs. Bradley from what I've seen, and I think that between them and Mustang's group, no matter the animosity between them, they'll keep her alive. At least, I hope so.

Maybe Selim's time with Al will do him some good on that particular issue. *shrugs* Anything can happen, right?

And, to stay on topic, Roy and Riza rocked the chapter, but I liked Riza's part a little more. Doesn't have to say a word, but you just know what's she's all about.

Being the romantic that I am, though, I'd like to think Rebecca rejected Roy for Riza's sake, even if it was also for comedic effect. It'd just be kind of interesting if she did.
Sannom
QUOTE
Ooh! I want to see Wrath rebel! He and Selim really do care for Mrs. Bradley from what I've seen, and I think that between them and Mustang's group, no matter the animosity between them, they'll keep her alive. At least, I hope so.


I don't know about Pride, his affection to Miss Bradley strikes me more like the kind of affection one has for a pet. A cherished and loved pet, but still a pet. Well, at least he likes her, not like Greed who considers his own pets (chimeras) as his possessions.
Causmicfire
Anyone seen this yet?

All dressed up for the 2009 calendar XD

So, she wears dresses with high backs.

edit: fixed
FailToImpress
^Picture doesn't work for me sad.gif
It's a banner. :/
Turdaewen
It doesn't work for me, either... sad.gif
And I got SO curious!
jacksparrow589
^Yep, not workin' for me, either. Is there any way you can attach it, maybe? I'd REALLY love to see it!
Causmicfire
The link should be working now, but I uploaded it just in case.

Click to view attachment
FailToImpress
^Oh wow, I like a lot! happy.gif
Calendars are always good for new pictures. tongue.gif

Sometimes you get bored seeing the same ones all the time.
jacksparrow589
I LOVE IT! That is SUCH a pretty dress! And they all look so... sharp! Why can't there be a scene like this in the manga? (Yeah, yeah, don't listen to me-- I'm just complaining.)

Thank you very much, Causmicfire!
AndroidLust
QUOTE
So, she wears dresses with high backs.

ohmy.gif oh yeah, i didnt think of that. good eye!
CodenameElizabeth
QUOTE (Causmicfire @ Nov 22 2008, 03:45 AM) *
So, she wears dresses with high backs.


Well, She'd kind of HAVE to, if ya know what I mean... wink.gif
Saving_Grace
Aww, very nice. They all look great (I love it when Riza's all dolled-up). happy.gif

Are there any more calendar pics hanging around?

FailToImpress
I'm going to assume you've all read past chapter 38 here...

Just noticed something about that calendar picture...
I guess they don't take much of the actual manga story into account because uh... Havoc's standing up. :/ It's such a trivial thing, but I just had to bring it up. tongue.gif I notice these things.
Causmicfire
QUOTE (FailToImpress @ Nov 23 2008, 04:34 AM) *
I'm going to assume you've all read past chapter 38 here...

Just noticed something about that calendar picture...
I guess they don't take much of the actual manga story into account because uh... Havoc's standing up. :/ It's such a trivial thing, but I just had to bring it up. tongue.gif I notice these things.


I was kind of hoping it's foretelling his recovery.
jacksparrow589
I'm with Causmicfire: Noticed, but was hoping that it was saying something about how this all's gonna end.
FailToImpress
Yeahh, I never thought of that. smile.gif
Either that or because it's a calendar, they don't want to include too much of the story. I can see why they might do that. Although, it is just a calendar after all. smile.gif
Saving_Grace
Was he paralysed from the waist down, or just the legs? I can't remember.

Off topic, Whenever I see Riza's friend Rebecca talking about trying to find a man, I always mentally scream out "Havoc! HAVOC!" I am the only one?

Once again, are there any more of those calendar pics hanging around?
Causmicfire
QUOTE (Saving_Grace @ Nov 23 2008, 11:16 PM) *
Was he paralysed from the waist down, or just the legs? I can't remember.

Off topic, Whenever I see Riza's friend Rebecca talking about trying to find a man, I always mentally scream out "Havoc! HAVOC!" I am the only one?

Once again, are there any more of those calendar pics hanging around?



You're not the only one. RebeccaxHavoc = <3

Yes, even back in the first chapter where she met up with Riza in Central. She was talking about looking for a man in Central, and my mind jumped straight to Havoc. XD

Yes, there are more scans out for the calendar.

Some here (courtesy of kirarakim) and all of them here(courtsey of sky_dark).
Saving_Grace
Just found them.

Cheers!
FailToImpress
QUOTE (Causmicfire @ Nov 24 2008, 07:28 AM) *
Yes, there are more scans out for the calendar.

Some here (courtesy of kirarakim) and all of them here(courtsey of sky_dark).


Oh thanks, was looking everywhere for those smile.gif
Turdaewen
Riza looks so pretty with that dress... XD

Thanx, Causmicfire! \o/ You're the best!
RoyxRizaFan
Thanks for the pictures!

Hm, I'd love to see Havod recovered - I really would. I love the guy. But at the same time, I believe that people have to sacrifice things to obtain goals. I don't like stories where the ending is wrapped in a big red bow. Sure, I want a happy ending, but if everything works out perfectly, it takes out the realism. So although I love Havoc, I'm almost hoping he doesn't have a recovery that isn't realistic or is cheesey. Does that make any sense?
Sweetdeath04
QUOTE
Off topic, Whenever I see Riza's friend Rebecca talking about trying to find a man, I always mentally scream out "Havoc! HAVOC!" I am the only one?


Trust me, you are NOT the only one!

Ahem...

But, yeh, the calander pictures are awesome! I saw them yesterday and I kinda fell in love with August. As for Havoc standing up, I'm with FailToImpress- they just don't want to give too much away.
Cece
QUOTE (RoyxRizaFan @ Nov 15 2008, 06:55 PM) *
QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Nov 15 2008, 09:26 PM) *
On a different tangent than the rest of you all, I was really happy when Roy was all, "We're going to protect you with all we've got" to Mrs. Bradley. I feel sorry for the poor woman, and it was an excellent moment showing Roy's character and his determination to not take another innocent life. Actually, the whole battle was.



ITA. I was really happy about that, too.

QUOTE (jacksparrow589 @ Nov 15 2008, 09:26 PM) *
Olivier, however, is one whom I still distrust. I don't know what it is, but I just don't. I don't want to offend anyone who likes her, though, so I'll leave it at that.


Yeah, this is how I've evaluated Olivia in a past thread:

QUOTE (RoyxRizaFan @ Sep 17 2008, 05:25 PM) *
Sorry, I have to add something to this Olivia discussion...

...She usually doesn't get on my nerves, and I have faith that she's on Roy's side. My problem with her is how she treats Alex. Somehow, i dont find it funny. How can she put him down for leaving the war, when she wasn't a part of it? She doesn't know it was like to have to kill innocent people and watch their bodies dropping all around her. Sure, she heard about it, but nothing is the same as being part of it, so she has no right to judge him since she doesn't know a thing about the circumstance.

Plus I loved Alex since he first showed up in volume 2, so having some newbie come in and treat him like sh*t isn't something I can really let by easily...


I don't hate her. I want to like her because she kicks butt and is wicked cool. It's interesting how she sits on the fence, and you never know which side she'll fall on. Sometimes, it's overkill, though, and some things about her annoy me so much that I forget what I like about her. I hate the thought of her being Fuhrer (she is not reliable and would not bring change) and I hate the thought of her with Roy (though this is thankfully less popular of an idea than I thought it was) and so on and so forth.

So overall I have no idea what I think of her over all. Kind of like Havoc's goatee! tongue.gif



I agree with you in that I don't like Olivia's way of treating her brother and so long as she's on Roy's side I don't mind her.
FailToImpress
QUOTE (RoyxRizaFan @ Nov 26 2008, 02:02 AM) *
Hm, I'd love to see Havod recovered - I really would. I love the guy. But at the same time, I believe that people have to sacrifice things to obtain goals. I don't like stories where the ending is wrapped in a big red bow. Sure, I want a happy ending, but if everything works out perfectly, it takes out the realism. So although I love Havoc, I'm almost hoping he doesn't have a recovery that isn't realistic or is cheesey. Does that make any sense?


I understand what you're saying...
I mean, people in real life don't make miraculous recoveries from this sort of thing, do they? Spinal cords just can't be replaced. Anyway, him being injured does give the story realism because it'd be boring if everything was perfect. Life just isn't like that!
Turdaewen
It would be boring. :s

I expect a great ending from Arakawa. I hope (and I believe, too) she won't let us down with a faerie tale ending. It's just not like her! The entire manga was very realistic and deep, she wouldn't just ruin it.

As for Olivia, she's a GREAT character, but I just don't trust her. I have loads of fun with her part in the manga, but, really I don't see her as one of the 'good girls'.
Munou_No_MustangTaisa
Mustang and Hawkeye In the Rain Parody (Romi, Rie and Ohkawa)


Hello royati fans XDDDD

May I ask if anyone still has a copy of the funny audio clip from hagaren housoukyoku:

- Mustang and Hawkeye In the Rain Parody (Romi, Rie and Ohkawa)

I have been googling around and havent any luck >.<

Could anyone kindly share this file with me?

I would be glad to upload the drama cds or radio djcds in return that I have :-D

Thank you infinity times for all your great help~


Munou_no_Taisa
Saving_Grace
^ Sorry, no idea.


I just want Havoc to be able to... well, you know, get a girl, have babies...

I think there's a possibility that either Roy or Riza (most likely Roy) might die at the end. There's definitely going to be some bloodshed no matter what. I think that qualifies as a gritty, realistic ending.

Damn it woman! Draw quicker! I want to read the next chapter!!!



FailToImpress
QUOTE (Saving_Grace @ Nov 27 2008, 10:41 AM) *
I think there's a possibility that either Roy or Riza (most likely Roy) might die at the end. There's definitely going to be some bloodshed no matter what. I think that qualifies as a gritty, realistic ending.

Damn it woman! Draw quicker! I want to read the next chapter!!!


I'd say there's a chance of that, yes... it almost seems predictable that one of those characters could die though, so I'm not sure. mellow.gif Anyway, I do have faith that it'll be a good ending and no matter who she kills off (if any) I'll still enjoy the story!... without that sounding so morbid and weird, haha. Pfft, who am I kidding, I'll do the same as I did at the end of the Death Note manga and wanna cry. sleep.gif

I want the next chapter too! Funny thing is, each time a new chapter comes around I'm wondering where the last month just went.. it goes surprisingly quickly. happy.gif
Turdaewen
I thought either would die, too.

But thinking again, I believe if one of them were supposed to die, they would have died at this point of the story already. At least I hope so. For me, it's two out of one: they either die or they'll be together. They're too much of a couple to just turn around and say "I don't want you". If they survive, they'll definitely be together, even if it's just something implied or subtle.
RoyxRizaFan
Somehow, it's hard to picture one living without the other. They're just so close and have formed such a deep bond that I can't even picture it.

When Riza thought Roy was dead, she didn't want to go on living. I know she won't have a moment like that again, but it still makes you think.

Maybe they'll survive, but then will both be killed for what they did in the Ishbalan War, which will (I'm guessing) be what puts Grumman in power (?)
FailToImpress
QUOTE (RoyxRizaFan @ Nov 28 2008, 04:12 PM) *
Somehow, it's hard to picture one living without the other. They're just so close and have formed such a deep bond that I can't even picture it.


True, they've always both been there, it'd be interesting to know what would happen if either of them did die.
I personally have no clue, although I'm sure our lovely manga writer would. wink.gif
Turdaewen
So....

Xmas is getting near!! XD
RoyxRizaFan
Should we do XMas fan fiction? Since not many of us could participate in the Halloween? If we start early, I'm sure most of us will be able to submit.
jacksparrow589
I'll do what I can. I have a research paper that I need to do, though, and the one idea that I started isn't going anywhere as a result. Guess I know what I need to do...
Turdaewen
I think I'll try. I mean, I know I have to study, but that's not an excuse. XD I guess I can spare some time to write. ^^
jacksparrow589
Well, in the interim, I put up a piece based off of someone else's. (Yes, I did ask
permission first!) It's titled, "Shotgun Angel" and I'll put up the link when it shows up on the site, 'cause I'm too lazy to go look for it right now.

It's not exactly Royai, but if you look really, really, REALLY hard, you could get it. Maybe. Possibly.

Still working on Political Science paper.
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