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Turdaewen
QUOTE(jacksparrow589 @ Aug 27 2008, 01:03 PM) *
^Agreed.

I think that Roy is aware that he isn't singly responsible for the massacre, but he knows that he did nothing to stop it while it occurred. That's what he (and Riza, Armstrong, etc.) feels bad about. He went to go change things and wound up not being able to do anything. Thus, his guilt and his promise made their debut.

In history last year, my teacher told us that some of the soldiers from concentration camps in WWII were acquitted of their charges because they were only following orders and had been trained to do so, as if their own personal beliefs and judgement of right and wrong didn't exist. Basically, it wasn't their choice. (I'm a bit skeptical on that, but I won't deny that it is in fact possible under that much of a pressured setting.)

The thing is: could Roy REALLY do something against it? If he betrayed the Amestris Army at that point, not only it would make no difference in the result of the massacre, he would simply be killed!
He couldn't do anything because there was no such thing as a Martial Court willing to accept his accusation of law breaking by the Army. The massacre itself was something decided by the State and, as a military member of that State, he was forced to oblige to its laws and orders. If that was not so, every soldier involved in every combat with civil losses in History could be charged as ordinary murderers.
THAT's why Wartime and other special circumstances, as dictatorships, have a different law approach than Democratic governments.

And, jacksparrow, your teacher is right. They were acquitted. But, it was not because they were merely following orders, not taking the personal beliefs and judgments into account.
The International Law DOES takes the persons beliefs and judgments in to account. But in both civil and common law, there is a difference between the willpower and the spoken will (or in this case, the will that was put into effect).
In this case, their willpower could not come into a spoken will, because the State was denying them their free will, by coercion, which, in this case, transfers the 'blame' into the State, because, what was manifested was the will of the State and not the will of the individual.

But all this is VERY complicated and its ALWAYS considered case by case, since the Statute of the International Court of Justice says that ANY group or individual that can be considered responsible for a war crime can be charged, no matter the position they're on.

(Yay!!! Studying for my International Law tests AND talking about FMA!! \o/ lol)
Causmicfire
This site is one that you guys may find interesting, in terms of being tried for war crimes and such.

In the Ishval arc, Grande did try to do something to stop, what the site above says would be called, crimes against humanity. If he was alive he could defend himself in trials by bringing in the witnesses from the unit he took over when he killed his superior.

The first of the Nuremberg trials tried the big fish, the leaders. After those trials ended, they then went on to the lower levels, to the soldiers and doctors.

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About 185 individuals were indicted in the 12 cases. Those indicted included doctors who had conducted medical experiments on concentration camp inmates and prisoners of war, judges who had committed murder and other crimes under the guise of the judicial process, and industrialists who had participated in the looting of occupied countries and in the forced-labor program. Other persons indicted included SS officials who had headed the concentration camps, administered the Nazi racial laws, and carried out the extermination of Jews and other groups in the eastern territories overrun by the German army; and high military and civilian officials who bore responsibility for these and other criminal acts and policies of the Third Reich. A number of doctors and SS leaders were condemned to death by hanging, and approximately 120 other defendants were given prison sentences of various durations. The tribunals acquitted 35 defendants.


They only acquitted 35 of those tried, and unfortunately it doesn't give any reason as to why they were acquitted. The individuals punished could not speak out against their orders, during the time, either.

If the trails turn out anything like these ones, then Knox and Marcoh will be tried for medical experiments. The alchemists used during the Ishval wars would also be tried for the extermination of Ishvalans...they may take into account that Roy is now trying to change the country for the better.

The way they handle trails fro war crimes are probably different now, but then again Armestris is not in our time.
Turdaewen
QUOTE(Causmicfire @ Aug 27 2008, 04:53 PM) *
They only acquitted 35 of those tried, and unfortunately it doesn't give any reason as to why they were acquitted. The individuals punished could not speak out against their orders, during the time, either.

They were acquitted mostly because they complied to the Trial. Everyone at Nuremberg who claimed himself guilty and helped the investigations were either diminished of their jail time or acquitted. The Nuremberg Trials were mostly out of politics and not legal based. They were merely placing the blame of the WWII on the Axis.
That's why they didn't even TRIED to investigate things such as the Concentration Camps at USSR and USA. "The History is written by the winners"
Back then, there was no rules to the investigation and trial process, they basically did whatever they wanted. Very different to the International Trials nowdays.
But, nowdays, what I said before could be applied.

From my point of view, either cases, Roy would not be condemned. lol
But the Marcoh situation would be different... It would be more complicated in that case.
jacksparrow589
Ah, things have been cleared up for me! *bows to Turdaewen and Causmicfire*

I also remember something about a study conducted where it was shown that under a strong pressure setting, people would do things they don't normally do. All I really had to look at was "pressure" to see that, now that I think about it.

And yes, history is written by the winners, I agree. I've come to see that as the case for many a bias for or against just about anything. (In my infinite age and wisdom... kidding, kidding! wink.gif ) I just hope the "right" people win in FMA, relatively speaking.

Wouldn't this put Roy at kind of a stalemate, though? If the people think that they did well under the present Fuhrer, they're not going to react well to him being taken down and being told that everything they were told was propaganda. There's a lot of work to be done there, and rather quickly when the takeover is complete. (Dang, this manga is a great analysis of this sort of scenariio! Makes you think about what you'd do in that position! Or maybe I'm just crazy... *shrugs*)
Causmicfire
QUOTE(jacksparrow589 @ Aug 27 2008, 02:57 PM) *
And yes, history is written by the winners, I agree. I've come to see that as the case for many a bias for or against just about anything. (In my infinite age and wisdom... kidding, kidding! wink.gif ) I just hope the "right" people win in FMA, relatively speaking.

Wouldn't this put Roy at kind of a stalemate, though? If the people think that they did well under the present Fuhrer, they're not going to react well to him being taken down and being told that everything they were told was propaganda. There's a lot of work to be done there, and rather quickly when the takeover is complete. (Dang, this manga is a great analysis of this sort of scenariio! Makes you think about what you'd do in that position! Or maybe I'm just crazy... *shrugs*)


Yes, history is definitely written by the winners, not only that, but by the time you learn the real history, they've already attempted to brain wash you into thinking your country is perfect through school history books. I can't tell you how much I hated finding out that every "story" they told us about in school had a dark side to it; Slavery, Trails of Tears, and Japanese Internment Camps being the most upsetting. I did my Junior speech on the internment camps. Talking with people who'd been "relocated" during the war was the hardest part.

Yes, it really does give food for thought, which is what is so great about it. Someone at my work reads manga with his son, and he told me he'd never found real substance in the stories, so I recommended FMA to him, but I just don't think he's really looking.

I do think it'll be a difficult situation for Roy. There will be a lot of doubt, unless the can get something big to prove what the situation was. Really, who wants to believe two people, one being a young Colonel, and the other an Ice Queen General they've hardly heard of, over the Fuhrer, and his pets?

That's one of the main reasons I wasn't worried about that part from this month's chapter really being Grumman's thoughts, because the country will probably trust someone seemingly uninvolved in the Fuhrer's downfall more than they would the other two. Then, he would use his power to make sure others were safe, because he's not a bad guy.
Turdaewen
At least, Roy is completely safe until the Homunculi's government crumbles. They are NOT letting anything out that might compromise that government, so... there's no problem. And as soon as that government DOES crumbles, the truth will come out, which may bring problems to him, but also be the key to his acquittance.
In any case, the Generals and the Fuhrer's situations is FAR worse than Roy's.

And yeah, I really hope I haven't been wrong about Grumman... ^^ I still believe his one of the good guys.
jacksparrow589
Hey, same here! I think that if that whole train of thought is Grumman's true agenda, he'll save Roy and everyone in the end.

Wow, this conversation has been quite circuitous.
Turdaewen
Yeah, it is!!! :s

Look what the lack of Royai is doing to us!!! lol

Damn you, Arakawa!! sad.gif
jacksparrow589
Shhh! If she hears you, she'll NEVER put it in again! wink.gif

Although it IS the lack that is doing this to us. We seriously need some new material. Well, it's maybe two weeks until the next chapter? Perhaps we might get some Royai love then? (Alhtough, with the way things are going, I doubt it, unless they cut to Central and the fight there.)
daggertrepe
'scuse my n00b-ness, but I absolutely adore this couple. I have yet to read the manga, but what I saw from them in the anime was definitely squee-worthy. smile.gif
RoyxRizaFan
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Although it IS the lack that is doing this to us. We seriously need some new material. Well, it's maybe two weeks until the next chapter? Perhaps we might get some Royai love then? (Alhtough, with the way things are going, I doubt it, unless they cut to Central and the fight there.)


I wanted to laugh at that, but I was too busy crying. You guys are right...the lack of RoyAi is really killing us...yeah, I guess I realized that about a year ago when Arakawa decided that the two of them didn't need to be in any more scenes together.

Welcome, daggertrepe. Honestly, you should put in the time to read the manga. You can start a like volume 7 if you want, because that's when it gets different than the anime. RoyAi is a lot better in the manga than the anime. Any RoyAi fanness (?) is good, though biggrin.gif
daggertrepe
Thanks! I have actually started to read the manga. I'm truly reading it for Royai and Izumi, since she has a more developed story in the manga. I could do without that Wrath kid, too, even though he's ok. But yay for ROYAI. I am excited, honestly!! biggrin.gif
Turdaewen
Yay!! \o/ Welcome, daggertrepe!
jacksparrow589
Indeed! Welcome, daggertrepe! A new Royai person! (We really need more of them, despite the... lack of... Royai... *passes out*

*after a few CC's of Royai in the manga*

Ah, sorry 'bout that. Tends to happen when I don't get my fix, which I haven't been lately. Too busy to read fanfic, and no new manga.

A lot of the characters have their stories a bit more fleshed out in the manga, I think because there's less of a limit as to what you can fit into a chapter, if you try hard enough. Sure, the anime was cool and all that, but the manga gives us a LOT more in every department. 'Cept the one I want lately. *bawls* Where's my Royai?

Seriously, though, I hope I get to see Roy and Riza fighting back-to-back in the manga. I doubt it'll actually happen, but then I didn't think a lot of things would happen, and I was QUITE wrong. At least just let 'em end up together! (We just had this conversation about happily-ever-afters recently, didn't we?)

Well, I would complain more, but I have to go, seeing as I have to *GASP* get up for school tomorrow. A half-day, but still...
Causmicfire
Welcome Daggertrepe!

You'll definitely like the manga if you don't care for kid!Wrath, and love RoyAi and Izumi.

What haven't we talked about lately...?

So, how do you think Riza knows about Roy's sisters having dressed him up as a girl when he was younger?

My brother was the only boy of five kids, so I feel for Roy even more knowing that, but boy does my brother know how to treat a girl. He probably didn't get anything nearly as bad as Roy did, because my brother is the second oldest, so only my older sister really got away dressing him up.
Imagining_Dark_Roses
Hullo, new person! *waves spasticly (is that even a word?)*
wait, who said Riza knew? but if she does, they've certainly spent enough time together for him to spill the beans. maybe it was their pillowtalk in Ishbal. *is shot*
Causmicfire
QUOTE(Imagining_Dark_Roses @ Aug 29 2008, 12:34 AM) *
Hullo, new person! *waves spasticly (is that even a word?)*
wait, who said Riza knew? but if she does, they've certainly spent enough time together for him to spill the beans. maybe it was their pillowtalk in Ishbal. *is shot*


... was go to phrase the question differently, and must have forgotten to take out the how in there DX

Anyways, I meant to askif you guys think she knows.

She might know, at least if she's met his sisters you'd think she'd know, because sisters just loving telling embarrassing stories about brothers...well family members in general can't seem to keep the stories locked away.

daggertrepe
Thanks guys. I'll get back to you all on my Royai thoughts once I get farther into the story. I usually have pretty new and unique insights on things.

BTW what are the very active threads around this place? Can someone tell me all of them so I can participate? Thanks!
Turdaewen
QUOTE(Causmicfire @ Aug 29 2008, 04:41 AM) *
QUOTE(Imagining_Dark_Roses @ Aug 29 2008, 12:34 AM) *
Hullo, new person! *waves spasticly (is that even a word?)*
wait, who said Riza knew? but if she does, they've certainly spent enough time together for him to spill the beans. maybe it was their pillowtalk in Ishbal. *is shot*


... was go to phrase the question differently, and must have forgotten to take out the how in there DX

Anyways, I meant to ask if you guys think she knows.

She might know, at least if she's met his sisters you'd think she'd know, because sisters just loving telling embarrassing stories about brothers...well family members in general can't seem to keep the stories locked away.

Well, remember that they DID spend at least a decent amount of time together, between he learning alchemy with her father and them working together.
Don't think she knows his sisters (no reason, I just do), but Hughes knows about it, so, Riza might know through him.


It's a funny thing that sometimes in the manga and throughout the anime Riza seems very anti-social, but, at the same time, she seems to have many friends from the academy: Becky, Havoc... and I remember a pic by Arakawa where she was talking to another blond woman who seems to have worked with her. Which brings me to the idea that Riza might only that serious faced person at work. Couldn't picture her telling a joke, though. lol
jacksparrow589
I think it's 50/50 that she even knows. If Riza knows Roy's family, they could have told her. If not, Maes could have told her. There is another possibility... you know how you like to cheer up during hard times? In Ishbal, could they have told amusing stories about home to keep morale up? Not neccesarily pillow talk, as Imagining_Dark_Roses suggests, but just as a way to keep thoughts of war out.

Hmmmm... makes me wanna write something, but it's too vague to get much of a grasp on now. Maybe later.
Causmicfire
I can imagine it's one of the main reasons Roy was sweating so much when Grumman appeared crossdressed. XD

@daggertrepe - I'd try the discussions about the new anime series for FMA, it's pretty hot right now! Oh, and you icon is very amusing!
daggertrepe
Thanks! I made it myself. I love Izumiiiiiiiii tongue.gif
RoyxRizaFan
She found out through pillow talk in ishbal? I'll believe it XD

It seems that the most likely way she'd know if through ishbal. i doubt anyone would bring it up otherwise.

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can imagine it's one of the main reasons Roy was sweating so much when Grumman appeared crossdressed. XD


LMAO, probably! tongue.gif
The New Fullmetal Alchemist
biggrin.gif

I'M ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yet it seems like there's no one around anymore that i know???

it's been over a year since i've been on these forums... i guess the change was inevitable?
CodenameElizabeth
OH MY GOD. It's TNFMA.
How the heck have you been??

Daggertrepe, this is definitely one of the oldest and most active threads on the forums here. But you will also find a lot of activity on the Manga discussion forum, so definitely head on over there. (And BTW, Izumi colorbar is made of WIN.)

Oh, and HI NEW PEOPLE. I'm Liz. The Resident Old-Fart and apparently also the "Riza Lookalike contest winner." Or something. Maybe its just a sign that I pimp my cosplaying out too much. (That's a pic of me in my sig. image.)

Welcome and enjoy your stay!
Imagining_Dark_Roses
*has nothing to say, so begins to sing "Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog"*
i think FMA needs a live action movie. we've probably had this discussion before, but i wasnt here, so who'd we cast as who?
CodenameElizabeth
I SWEAR there was a thread around here where people were 'casting' celebrities in roles for a fictitious FMA movie. I have no idea which subforum it was on though. Think it might have been the Manga one... it was pretty amusing.

EDIT: It was HERE:

http://www.fullmetal-alchemist.com/forums/...=12121&st=0

daggertrepe
QUOTE(CodenameElizabeth @ Sep 1 2008, 11:52 AM) *
OH MY GOD. It's TNFMA.
How the heck have you been??

Daggertrepe, this is definitely one of the oldest and most active threads on the forums here. But you will also find a lot of activity on the Manga discussion forum, so definitely head on over there. (And BTW, Izumi colorbar is made of WIN.)

Oh, and HI NEW PEOPLE. I'm Liz. The Resident Old-Fart and apparently also the "Riza Lookalike contest winner." Or something. Maybe its just a sign that I pimp my cosplaying out too much. (That's a pic of me in my sig. image.)

Welcome and enjoy your stay!


Thanks! I actually didn't make the colorbar, I just stole it from somewhere. It serves as an awesome sig.

BTW the picture in your sig CRACKS ME UP every time. Every. Time.
Saving_Grace
Yeah, I'm just going to comment on stuff that everyone else has said, so it's pretty disjointed.

QUOTE(Imagining_Dark_Roses @ Aug 25 2008, 04:04 PM) *
actually, in an interview, Arakawa mentioned that ROy has 3 older sisters who loved to dress him up in girl's clothes when he was little. theres a cute picture of that somewhere on dA.....


We must track down the interview!! (dramatic music swells in the background) I shall not believe it til I see it! When I was little my cousin and I used to dress up her younger brother all the time, he was so cute with his big blue eyes and red lipstick... I must find the photos we took and blackmail him. He's 14 now, so it's the perfect time to do it.

QUOTE(Turdaewen @ Aug 22 2008, 09:57 AM) *
After all, they're only making about 52 episodes sad.gif
I'll kill them if they cut ANY of those!!

Did anyone official announce that, or are you just judging it by the amount of the last series?

QUOTE(Imagining_Dark_Roses @ Sep 2 2008, 06:17 AM) *
*has nothing to say, so begins to sing "Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog"*
i think FMA needs a live action movie. we've probably had this discussion before, but i wasnt here, so who'd we cast as who?


See, I can't see Fullmetal translating well to the big screen, it'd be painful. Hollywood would most likely f*ck it up, anyway. I'm currently quite distraught at the fact that they're making a live-action Cowboy Bebop movie, I don't think I could handle it if they hijacked FMA too!

Hello daggertrepe! Final Fantasy fan, I'm guessing?
Turdaewen
QUOTE(Saving_Grace @ Sep 2 2008, 10:10 AM) *
QUOTE(Turdaewen @ Aug 22 2008, 09:57 AM) *
After all, they're only making about 52 episodes sad.gif
I'll kill them if they cut ANY of those!!

Did anyone official announce that, or are you just judging it by the amount of the last series?

Neither, actually. I took it based on comments that the new anime will go on about a year, which makes about that many episodes. And I guess it is an official announcement that it'll last a year.

BTW is it official that is going to be based on the manga??

QUOTE(Imagining_Dark_Roses @ Sep 1 2008, 04:17 PM) *
*has nothing to say, so begins to sing "Jeremiah Was A Bullfrog"*
i think FMA needs a live action movie. we've probably had this discussion before, but i wasnt here, so who'd we cast as who?

That would be cool!! ^^
I always wondered who could fit as Riza... It's just too damn hard. sad.gif
The closest I could think is the main actress from Cold Case, but she's a little old... and skinny.
FailToImpress
Hello! I'm kinda new, and popping in here to say that I totally support RoyxRiza.
I have supported it for a long time, I'm only new here because I found this place a little while ago.
It's just meant to be! happy.gif
That is all. smile.gif
Turdaewen
QUOTE(FailToImpress @ Sep 2 2008, 03:18 PM) *
Hello! I'm kinda new, and popping in here to say that I totally support RoyxRiza.
I have supported it for a long time, I'm only new here because I found this place a little while ago.
It's just meant to be! happy.gif
That is all. smile.gif

Yay!! \o/ Another one!! ^^

Welcome!
RoyxRizaFan
Welcome, FailToImpress! The more RoyAi fans the better! I hope you stick around!

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Neither, actually. I took it based on comments that the new anime will go on about a year, which makes about that many episodes. And I guess it is an official announcement that it'll last a year.

BTW is it official that is going to be based on the manga??


I could have sworn it was going to be 56 episodes...i could be wrong. Hell, probably am.

It said manga before, but they edited the page or something so it just says "new anime". Did they look at online feedback and change thier mind??? They better not do a stupid Shambala sequel unless Riza gets to beat up Roy for being an @$$ and a loser to her all the time...same goes for Winry to Ed, though she does that anyway.



Turdaewen
Yeah, I thought that too, but, at the same time, that 'reanimation of the original story' from the Japanese release info did get my curiosity rising...

Either way... I REALLY don't think they'll make a 'season 2' of the anime, but, we never know!
FailToImpress
happy.gif Yeah, I'll do my best to visit often. I love this thread already!

Talking of the new series, I'm not sure what it's being based on either. sad.gif
An adaptation of the manga would be good, but you already know the story if you've read it. Then again if you take something like Death Note, the anime came after the manga and the story was almost identical. I guess that wouldn't matter then.

Hm, a totally new series would be kind of exciting because we don't know what'll happen but I haven't a clue what they'd write about! huh.gif
RoyxRizaFan
Hm, I'm thinking an entirely new anime wouldn't be bad, but there's so much I'd love to see on the screen. A lot of people complain, saying that they've seen it before so it's boring. It's totally different seeing it as a TV show, though. Besides, a lot of my friends don't bother reading (do they know how?? JK tongue.gif ) the manga and just say, "well, i say the anime". Ugh...

I love how animes for, like you mentioned, Death Note and D. Gray Man follow the manga. It makes it fun to make AMVs, too LOL
jacksparrow589
I'm still waiting for the animated version of volumes... basically 9 through 11. My favorite Royai moment is in the thick of that. If I see any part of the new one (assuming that it is manga-based), it will have to be that.

Hi, FailToImpress! *waves* Welcome!

Geez, I'm starting to feel like one of the more seasoned members on this thread. I mean, we do have Liz, and Tombow has popped in from time to time, but I think I'm getting up there in experience. Kinda cool!
RoyxRizaFan
I'm still pretty new in these parts, though I feel like I've been here a while LOL

Yeah, the best of royai is pretty much in volume 10 (gluttony attacking her and Roy getting worried, battle with Lust), but I liked their scenes in volume 13 (when he told her to leave if anything happened to him) and 14 (when he noticed she had waited for him). After that...not too much, unless you include their parting scene...though it was kind of sweet when she was happy he called "perfect timing" i think she said...

...WOW I think I just listed every RoyAi moment ever. Seriously, I think that pretty much tells that I want it based after the manga. New RoyAi moments would be fun, but somehow I don't see the anime being able to pull it off.
Causmicfire
Don't forget their passing of messages! One during that cafeteria scene, and then at the hospital.

Notice he has to put a message on a flower card to get it to Olivier, but he and Riza seem to have a code.

I don;t know about you, but I loved that she called him "our Colonel", in 84/85 was it? She didn't have to use the word our to refer to him, Breda and Fuery would have known who she was talking about if she said the Colonel.

Welcome FailToImpress!
FailToImpress
tongue.gif Thanks for the welcome everyone.
Personally, I like the idea of a manga adaptation especially if they include the couple of chapters from Ishbal, when Maes, Roy and Riza are there. I thought it was pretty interesting.

I imagine it would be difficult to squeeze all of the chapters into an anime, so I hope they don't sacrifice even the slightest bit of Royai. I think the story needs it. tongue.gif
Saving_Grace
I think I'd be cool if they added to Mustang's past, perhaps if we got to see a little more of the dynamic between Mr. Hawkeye (I refuse to call him sensei) and Roy. I always found that interesting. I don't specifically want more Royai in the new anime, I've always preferred to leave their relationship to the imagination. As long as there's a few hints every now and then, and a gigantic yes-guys-you-were-right-there-is-something-going-on-between-them hint in the manga, then all should be good for me.

Wow, I have a bajillion assignments to do, I should probably get off the 'puter.

QUOTE(RoyxRizaFan @ Sep 3 2008, 10:14 AM) *
complain, saying that they've seen it before so it's boring. It's totally different seeing it as a TV show, though.


Yeah, I'm one of the people saying it'd be boring. I'm sure from an aesthetic point of view it would be interesting, but it's the fact that I already know what's going to happen in the storyline that would make it dull for me.



I have decided within the past minute that I don't want there to be a new series. I like things the way they are...
FailToImpress
QUOTE(Saving_Grace @ Sep 3 2008, 12:08 PM) *
I don't specifically want more Royai in the new anime, I've always preferred to leave their relationship to the imagination. As long as there's a few hints every now and then, and a gigantic yes-guys-you-were-right-there-is-something-going-on-between-them hint in the manga, then all should be good for me.



Yeah, to be honest I don't think we'd get any more than hints anyway... As long as we have that then I'm happy.
A lot of series' are good at leaving relationships to the imagination and I don't think it's always a bad idea. smile.gif
daggertrepe
QUOTE(FailToImpress @ Sep 3 2008, 07:28 AM) *
QUOTE(Saving_Grace @ Sep 3 2008, 12:08 PM) *
I don't specifically want more Royai in the new anime, I've always preferred to leave their relationship to the imagination. As long as there's a few hints every now and then, and a gigantic yes-guys-you-were-right-there-is-something-going-on-between-them hint in the manga, then all should be good for me.



Yeah, to be honest I don't think we'd get any more than hints anyway... As long as we have that then I'm happy.
A lot of series' are good at leaving relationships to the imagination and I don't think it's always a bad idea. smile.gif


Me too. If you insinuate a romance, don't leave it hanging!!
jacksparrow589
I think I've said this before, but open endings are WONDERFUL for those of us who write fanfiction. Any plot hole, open ending, or unexplained past is wonderful for us. But I really would like to see closure on this one.

I really have nothing against those other moments mentioned, but volumes 9 through 11 still contain my favorite. Second, I think, would be Roy saying, "Just leave me behind" and Riza basically responding, "No way in hell." It's one of those scenes I just love. The dedication is just... *sighs romantically*

Need to go make dinner now.
StormGoddess
Hi everyone! Well, I'm not really new here. But I think it's time for me to show up. wink.gif

And I really don't care how much FMAs they want to create as long as there's Roy and Riza and a good story in it. happy.gif

*prays for new RoyAi scenes*
RoyxRizaFan
Welcome, sToRm GodDesS! I hope you stick around!

QUOTE
I think I've said this before, but open endings are WONDERFUL for those of us who write fanfiction. Any plot hole, open ending, or unexplained past is wonderful for us. But I really would like to see closure on this one.


*nods* RoyAi is one case where i don't want EVERYTHING to the imagination.
jacksparrow589
*waves* Hi, sToRm GoDdesS! Out of curiousity, what's your favorite Royai moment thus far?
Imagining_Dark_Roses
wow you guys went through hecka pages while i was busy.
manga animated would totally trump Shamballa sequel. i dont think theres any debate about which would be better, really.
i've been thining, and i realized that one of the main things about RoyAi is their struggles. While struggling with the homunculi, they're projecting their self-loathing and subconciously struggling with themselves. So i was thinking... what would happen if that was reversed? this is hypothetical, obviously, but what is they were outwardly fighting themselves and inwardly battling someone else? for example, if they were patients in a cancer ward fighting their own bodies while trying to uncover the hospital's corruption.
PLOT BUNNEH!11!!1!!!! sigh.
FailToImpress
I think their relationship is best left to the imagination, definitely.
They're both pretty stubborn people anyway so... it'd take a lot for any sort of 'yes-we-are-definitely-together' to be shown on screen in anime, or even manga. It's just the way they are as people. That's how I see it.

But you never know, stranger things have happened. tongue.gif
StormGoddess
QUOTE(RoyxRizaFan @ Sep 4 2008, 01:20 PM) *
Welcome, sToRm GodDesS! I hope you stick around!


I think I will from now on. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jacksparrow589 @ Sep 4 2008, 05:23 PM) *
*waves* Hi, sToRm GoDdesS! Out of curiousity, what's your favorite Royai moment thus far?


xD I didn't expect anyone to ask me that now. Well, my favorite RoyAi scene was that in episode 51 where Roy stroked Riza's hair saying "Nothing is perfect. The world isn't perfect, that's why it is beautiful" or something like that. But just seeing them together is enough to make me happeh! laugh.gif
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