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Imagining_Dark_Roses
me wants my RoyAi. well, the "remain loyal to your colonel" did make me squeal, but i want smoochies and rings and babies. which randomly reminds me that i thought of another reason the anime sucks. well, ya know in ep 51 when Ed gets all stabbity and dies? and Al is all "no! He's not dead!"? In the english dub, he then yells "his cheeks still have color in them", which makes little sense, but more sense compared to the japanese sub. he yells "His body is still warm". He's a friggin SUIT OF ARMOR. he CAN'T FEEL WARMTH. sigh.
on the bright side........ um...... i got a good drabble idea? and because I have nothing better to do, i'm going to post song lyrics that remind me of RoyAi.

Deserts Eating Oceans by Daphne Loves Derby
i can't believe that we've survived
the silent songs the night conspires
while we sleep all alone in our beds
waiting for our eyes to fall and rest
remember when we used to think that
all of our childhood dreams would fall into place
by some heavenly grace
but now i can see
i've made a big mistake
i've been searching for something that would
soothe like water
only to find that these paths have led me into desolate desert lands
and i try, i try so hard to beat my dreams in darkness
but in the light i can see your
every little mistake
and every time it's too late to hide
yeah
i just wanna fade right out of myself
like when shadows disappear in twilight
and it's getting so much harder to accept
the fact that i am stuck here
i can't hide from my own eyes
i can't hide from my own
vidramidra
Since there's absolutely no RoyAi in the manga recently I went to photobucket and found this cute pic thought I show you :

http://media.photobucket.com/image/royai/r...6b8ad1.jpg?o=29
jacksparrow589
Imagining_Dark_Roses- Actually, having color in his cheeks makes sense, considering that Al can see him. I don't know the mechanics of it (and I think I prefer it that way, although I have my guesses), but a person turns pale rather quickly after death. So, if Ed's still got color, maybe it's because the blood's still running through his body or just has enough oxygen to keep the color. Something that would offer an oportunity to resucitate.

vidramidra- Cute pic! It made me smile. biggrin.gif

*sighs* The manga does need more Royai. Unfortunately, since it's not the main focus... I'm not even gonna go there, lest I be mobbed. *glances around nervously*
Turdaewen
Imagining_Dark_Roses - That "His body is still warm" one was funny!! lol Can't even trust subs anymore!! I've seen so many nonsense in those... :s
Imagining_Dark_Roses
I'm sorry everyone, but i'm going to vaguely fangirl over the latest X-Files movie. anyone ever notice how the Mulder/Scully relationship is a lot like RoyAi? well, if you've been to Touchstone, then yeah, you know that. But what made me happy was that Mulder and Scully ended up together and happy, which means possible hope for Roy and Riza! Right? Right? *puppy dog eyes* I mean, both couples were in danger and knew getting involved would cause liablities (like children, cough cough), but Mulder and Scully hooked up anyways. So if they lived through that, maybe Roy and Riza can? sigh, i'm grasping at straws here.
...i'm working on an MMV to "Kryptonite by 3 Door Down. I'll link when i'm done.
i think my favorite sub screw-up was in Inuyasha, when he yells "Oh no Kagome, it is a terrifyingly arousing demon!"
CodenameElizabeth
QUOTE(Imagining_Dark_Roses @ Aug 14 2008, 09:53 PM) *
but i want smoochies and rings and babies.


And HOW is this NOT out-of-character? huh.gif
(Or maybe it was just a joke...)

After all of the anime vs. manga, in-character vs. OOC discussion here over the past few days, it still puzzles me how fans of this pairing can somehow bring everything back to OMG THERE GONNA GET MARRIEED AND HAS TONS OF BAYBEEZ arguments.

I personally think that falling head-over-heels in love, fairy-tail weddings, and popping out kids is out of established character for both Roy and Riza.
Yes, I can see them getting together but the smoochies, rings and babies part of it... nah. Can't really see that. Don't see either one of them having children or being fans of an overly-romantic wedding. They do not seem like incredibly romantic people. I think they would be very realistic about their relationship and not get swept away by it.
jacksparrow589
Yeah, I think we should kind of qualify the happy ending of choice, here. My qualifications:

-They're alive.

-They're together.

-They're happy with each other.

Not qualifications, but wishes:

-Possible physical signs of affection? Like a hug or holding hands or even just gazing into each other's eyes or something? Just for one tiny moment?

-Marriage? Possibly. A civil service with little more than the signing of certificates. I mean, in the sense of the whole "In sickness and in health, through good times and bad, 'til death do us part" notion, they pretty much act married.

-I can see a kid, MAYBE. Not them being obsessed with their child, but just kind of having a "happy family" sort of vibe. Which their team already sort of does.

...Yeah. That would about do it for me. I'm not asking for the heavens to open up and for angels to sing glorious hymns or anything. I just want 'em alive, together, and happy. (The other three, or even just one of them, wouldn't hurt, either. wink.gif )
Saving_Grace
I swear, I will curl up into a little ball and cry hysterically if any of the military gang dies. Especially Fuery or Havoc... or Breda or Falman... Okay so pretty much all of them. I just adore them.

Yeah, I don't want a whole "I'm in love with you Riza!!!" speech. I just prefer maybe a little kiss or something subtle. Pretty much anything that tells us that they're together without being fluffy (I can't stand blatent fluff). Leave the hugs and declarations to Winry (oh, I have a feeling she's just going to pounce on Ed, haha). "I love you, you idiot!"
Imagining_Dark_Roses
yeah, that was a joke....... i'm happy if they're both alive and on relatively good terms with each other.
question. Reflections is a fan made RoyEd OVA. WHY ROYED?! Why not RoyAi?! *hits monitor*
CodenameElizabeth
QUOTE(Imagining_Dark_Roses @ Aug 16 2008, 11:39 PM) *
yeah, that was a joke....... i'm happy if they're both alive and on relatively good terms with each other.
question. Reflections is a fan made RoyEd OVA. WHY ROYED?! Why not RoyAi?! *hits monitor*


Kind of figured it was a joke, seeing the previous discussions in this thread and all.

I just do get kind of irked when I see all sorts of "fluffy" fanfics that are SOOO incredibly out of character for the pairing.
Definitely see RoiAi as a pairing that is Arakawa-supported, much like EdWin. But sticking with their characters, they'd be quite, um, 'untraditional' about it, I would think...

RoyEd = DO NOT WANT. Unless its as a joke. (Just IMHO.)
RoyxRizaFan
What do you mean no smoochies or rings or babies??? *cries in corner*

JK, I know never to expect (or want) that from RoyAi. I agree with you guys, though, that I want SOMETHING, maybe not an "I love you"(as mentioned before, this belongs to EdWin) but I'd like a kiss or something...ANYTHING...other than them telling each other that the world stinks but that's why they like it and shoving apples (complete with knives) down each other's throats...

...oh man, am i scarred by the anime LOL it wasn't THAT bad, but some of the RoyAi scenes bugged me (as you can tell LOL)
Imagining_Dark_Roses
the whole "Riza feeding Roy apples scene made me think"- ya know how the apple was a symbol and all that stuff? what if instead of an apple, it had been a watermelon? because i can just see her chucking it at his head and being all "IT'LL MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER!".
i don't think we'd get an "i love you" unless one was dying (for real this time). and no smoochums sad.gif but hey, that's why we love RoyAi. SUBTEXT!!1!!11!!1!!!!!!11!!1!! maybe i'll make a RoyAi motivational poster....
Causmicfire
I'll have to agree that we won't get smooches and babies, heck, even a hug and/or holding hands would be a stretch(imho).

Maybe we'll get something indirect, like Grumman and Roy talking about "Elizabeth", or Riza and Grumman talking about Grumman's chess partner, or maybe Olivier telling Riza she has bad taste in men, or something of the sort....maybe she'll finally get some flowers from her favorite florist XD

Maybe being the keyword in that little blurb above happy.gif

Alive and unseperated is all I ask for!

Also, agreed that the "I love you" moment is for EdWin, thought I doubt Ed will use the "l" word.
Turdaewen
QUOTE(Causmicfire @ Aug 18 2008, 06:09 AM) *
I'll have to agree that we won't get smooches and babies, heck, even a hug and/or holding hands would be a stretch(imho).

Maybe we'll get something indirect, like Grumman and Roy talking about "Elizabeth", or Riza and Grumman talking about Grumman's chess partner, or maybe Olivier telling Riza she has bad taste in men, or something of the sort....maybe she'll finally get some flowers from her favorite florist XD

Maybe being the keyword in that little blurb above happy.gif

Alive and unseperated is all I ask for!

Also, agreed that the "I love you" moment is for EdWin, thought I doubt Ed will use the "l" word.

But they're not THAT cold, either. I mean, I don't see them acting 'love struck' either, but who knows? People do impressive things in extreme situations.

But I like the idea of the flowers. That would be very sweet!! ^^
And I think Riza is more of down to earth, but romantic deep down. Sometimes she allows herself to loosen up a bit, especially when she's not doing something work related.
But I don't believe she would EVER act like these fluffy fanfics, either. She's too much of a odd girl out for that. I've always pictured Riza as girl walking around her house reading a book.

Love confessions, though, would be extremely OOC! But I still can picture them waking down the street together.
RoyxRizaFan
Hmm...I really have no idea at this point. I always think "only this will happen, nothing more" then I start thinking, "Well, maybe that..." and I keep going in circles...ugh...I wish there was something more to look forward to, yet with them still keeping true to their personalities. With the lack of RoyAi the past year or so, I really have no idea what to expect anymore.
CodenameElizabeth
Click to view attachment


HA!!! tongue.gif


/r/ing moar Roiai motivators...
Causmicfire
Thanks for sharing Liz, it's very pretty!

As for my previous post, that was directed at what we may see in the manga. I don't think they will be cold towards each other, just that we aren't going to see a lot in the manga.
jacksparrow589
Liz- I'll drink to that! *Downs glass of water in her hand* Whaaat? You didn't think I'd actually... Tsk, tsk!

Yeah, I know what we're probably gonna get... which is the whole reason I write fanfiction. It might not be completely (or even remotely) in character, but it gives me a happy ending! Like I said, I really will be glad even if they're just alive and together. Like Liz's picture says, sometimes what ISN'T said is the most important thing.
CodenameElizabeth
QUOTE(jacksparrow589 @ Aug 19 2008, 07:02 PM) *
Yeah, I know what we're probably gonna get... which is the whole reason I write fanfiction. It might not be completely (or even remotely) in character, but it gives me a happy ending! Like I said, I really will be glad even if they're just alive and together. Like Liz's picture says, sometimes what ISN'T said is the most important thing.


*Downs glass of vodka and tonic in her hand*
Yeah. Here's to being the token "over-21" person in the crowd.

("Alive and Together" is totally my happy-ending as well.)
Imagining_Dark_Roses
for me to not put a gun to my head, it needs to end one of two ways. either one dies and we get a tragic confession of love etc. or both live and remain on... well, at least relative speaking terms. obviously the alive and together is preferable, but i'll take any semblance of romance i can get.
Turdaewen
QUOTE(CodenameElizabeth @ Aug 19 2008, 11:01 PM) *
*Downs glass of vodka and tonic in her hand*
Yeah. Here's to being the token "over-21" person in the crowd.

("Alive and Together" is totally my happy-ending as well.)

Hail to all over-21!!! \o/

QUOTE(Imagining_Dark_Roses @ Aug 20 2008, 06:08 PM) *
for me to not put a gun to my head, it needs to end one of two ways. either one dies and we get a tragic confession of love etc. or both live and remain on... well, at least relative speaking terms. obviously the alive and together is preferable, but i'll take any semblance of romance i can get.

I guess that's probably true... I'm just a hopeless romantic, so I'll always picture a better side.
Causmicfire
QUOTE(CodenameElizabeth @ Aug 19 2008, 07:01 PM) *
QUOTE(jacksparrow589 @ Aug 19 2008, 07:02 PM) *
Yeah, I know what we're probably gonna get... which is the whole reason I write fanfiction. It might not be completely (or even remotely) in character, but it gives me a happy ending! Like I said, I really will be glad even if they're just alive and together. Like Liz's picture says, sometimes what ISN'T said is the most important thing.


*Downs glass of vodka and tonic in her hand*
Yeah. Here's to being the token "over-21" person in the crowd.

("Alive and Together" is totally my happy-ending as well.)


I'm over 21!

I still need to try that Flaming Blue Mustang.

Should we have an end of summer(season, since it's not summer for everyone) RoyAi festival?
Turdaewen
QUOTE(Causmicfire @ Aug 20 2008, 10:11 PM) *
I'm over 21!

I still need to try that Flaming Blue Mustang.

Should we have an end of summer(season, since it's not summer for everyone) RoyAi festival?


Hey! What's in that Flaming Blue Mustang?? ^^ I just LOVE mixes. XD
Causmicfire
QUOTE(Turdaewen @ Aug 20 2008, 06:17 PM) *
QUOTE(Causmicfire @ Aug 20 2008, 10:11 PM) *
I'm over 21!

I still need to try that Flaming Blue Mustang.

Should we have an end of summer(season, since it's not summer for everyone) RoyAi festival?


Hey! What's in that Flaming Blue Mustang?? ^^ I just LOVE mixes. XD



Oops, it's Fiery, not Flaming ^^'

It's

1/2 oz Blue Curacao
1/2 oz Banana Liqueur
1/2 oz Everclear

Mix, then light it on fire!

The picture posted with it ws so pretty, but I need to find it DX

To stay on topic, I can't wait for Riza and Co. to be reunited with Mustang in they're little coup.
Turdaewen
Yeah!! I was infuriated, actually, when I realized they weren't even appearing in chapter 86! I mean, suspense has its limits!!! lol

I'm just so curious about what they're doing...
Imagining_Dark_Roses
BREAKING NEWS. I REPEAT, BREAKING NEWS. OF MUCH IMPORTANCE.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-...eries-confirmed
thoughts? from my comprehension, its not a sequel to shamballarammalammakadingitydingdadongshoobopshoowaddawaddayippityboomdeboom, but simply the manga storyline animated.
I CANT WAIT
Causmicfire
I really hope it's closely related to the manga! It would mean more Roy and Riza, plus all the other characters we haven't seen in the anime: Ling, Mei, RanFan, Olivier...!!! Oooh, fetus!Envy animate would be ultimate win!
RoyxRizaFan
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YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*cough cough* ahem, well, I'm very excited about this new anime thing...

...I can't wait to see all the Xing people that were never in the original. Plus, RoyAi moments that actually work are always nice (oh, man, I can see Roy vs. Lust already!)

Excuse me while I run around my house cheering.
Turdaewen
OMG!! ^^
That's so great!!! XD

Can't even wait to see the animated scenes of Lust's death!!! ^^ That would be truly priceless.
jacksparrow589
Forget the scene with Lust dying, what about the stuff with Roy and Riza before and after? Or is that what you meant?

Anyway, I think I'm a little less excited than the rest of you for some reason. Don't know why, either. But I'd LOVE to see it stick to the manga. Problem is, I'll likely be a poor, starving college student when it comes out, so... yeah. (Okay, not poor and starving. Probably just poor.)

I'd absolutely LOVE to see all the Xingese characters and Olivier. Animated with her brother, they would be on-screen-total-epic-ness.

But the Royai moments would be the best ones, period.
Turdaewen
QUOTE(jacksparrow589 @ Aug 21 2008, 03:08 PM) *
Forget the scene with Lust dying, what about the stuff with Roy and Riza before and after? Or is that what you meant?

That's exactly what I meant! lol
RoyxRizaFan
QUOTE
But the Royai moments would be the best ones, period.


Of couse. Briggs and Xing are just bonuses tongue.gif

Honestly, so much RoyAi I can't wait to see animated...oh, and the homonculi (the real ones, including FatherDude) too!

And...and...and...

...ROYAI...
jacksparrow589
I can't wait to have those "Oh... [i]SNAP![i/]" moments with Father and Hoho! Oh, and Selim. I can just see Ed in Chapter 86 saying something along the lines of, "Oh. Snap. We're all gonna die now."

But my favorite scene would have to be the circumstances surrounding Lust's death. I'm just too much of a fangirl to think anything is cooler than that.
Turdaewen
Yeah... My only fear now is that they don't show those Royai scenes that are SO incredible! After all, they're only making about 52 episodes sad.gif
I'll kill them if they cut ANY of those!!
Causmicfire
As long as Arakawa doesn't go way beyond 100 chapters (which don't see happening, I'm guessing 105-115 at the absolute most), then 52 episodes is plausible if they could fit about 2 chapters into each episode, and have the last episode be longer than the others.

Lust's death will be great. Her death is my favorite, because it's a huge turning point(not to mention her dying words). That's when the point of no return is reached for many characters, they can't ever go back to living life the way they did. Plus, RoyAi!

At first when the rumor was going around I really doubted it, then at the news I wasn't very excited, but now I am because it will keep the fandom going on longer.

A part of me wants to start getting into voice acting just for this series.

What I really want to see is the part surrounding the Ishval arc. The explanation behind Roy's alchemy, and relationship with Riza.
RoyxRizaFan
Oh, almost forgot about that...Hawkeye sensei, Riza's tattoo...man, im going to be so impatient waiting for these RoyAi scenes LOL

I wonder where they'll pick up, though. Start over from the beginning, maybe? it only got different around volumes 6-8...

Oh, and Barry the chopper will actually have a point.

Roy having a reason for being a womanizer will be nice XP and seeing Grumman...and...

well, everything...and RoyAi...

I seem to be repeating myself; I must be really excited (well, duh)

Imagining_Dark_Roses
this is going to sound odd, but i want to hear the musical score. I want to hear the background music for chap 62... cuz, see, if its too classic then that scene turns corny, but if its not classic enough then the scene loses all subtext. (i think too much)
I hope Riza's screaming doesnt sound like a dying cow again. her original Japanese scream in ep 51 sounded like a long sort of a MOOOOO.
I can't wait for Winry not to be a b*tch! she was always so hateable in the anime... maybe they'll actually make her into a decent person this time.
Turdaewen
Yeah, but I also like her Japanese voice... It suits her, that 'not so low, but also not squealing' and serious voice. It makes you really respect her.

Changing the subject completely, does someone also gets curious to know something about Roy's background? I mean, does he has a family? Siblings? How did he get to be Mr. Hawkeye's apprentice?
I've always wanted to know that.
RoyxRizaFan
I'd also like to hear about their pasts, but Roy isn't a character that's been focused on a lot lately, so I doubt it. Plus, nearing the climax, I doubt we'd get a flashback, though Arakawa proves me wrong everytime.

One more thing about the new anime - Scar killed Winry's parents, not Roy! WOOHOO!
Turdaewen
I know we probably won't have any of his background... but it doesn't make me stop wonder. lol
Causmicfire
I'd love to learn more about Roy, at least we know Riza's an only child, her parents are dead, and her grandfather is alive. It's not much, but certainly more than we know about Roy's family.
Turdaewen
We know NOTHING of Roy's family! We don't even know if he has one! :'(

Actually, does someone knows if anything is mentioned in the 'perfect guides'??
Imagining_Dark_Roses
actually, in an interview, Arakawa mentioned that ROy has 3 older sisters who loved to dress him up in girl's clothes when he was little. theres a cute picture of that somewhere on dA.....
Turdaewen
QUOTE(Imagining_Dark_Roses @ Aug 25 2008, 02:04 AM) *
actually, in an interview, Arakawa mentioned that ROy has 3 older sisters who loved to dress him up in girl's clothes when he was little. theres a cute picture of that somewhere on dA.....

Really?? That's hilarious! I've seen that comic strip on dA, already, but I thought it was someone who made that for a fanfic or something! lol

You think that's why he's so obsessed with women? In a sort of repairing for all the lack of manhood during young age! uahuahuahauhauhauhauhauh

And I guess that means he's more in common with Major Armstrong that meets the eye.

Really, just read this:
He's the youngest only son out of 4 and his sisters enjoyed dressing him up like a girl with their old clothes because Roy used to be a pretty boy.
Because the mother liked being misunderstood as having 4 girls instead of one boy and a three girls she didn't say anything about the dress up. Roy, being pretty young, thought every boy experienced this just like him so he didn't complain. Once a boy told him "Once I become an adult I'm going to marry you!" which made the sisters want to dress him up more prettily.
So at his home there is an album full of pictures of him dressed like a girl. Hughes secretly got a pic from the sisters and used to tease Roy with it.


That's too much for me!!! lmao
RoyxRizaFan
Poor Roy...

Here is a RoyxRiza fan fiction I wrote ages ago but never posted. It's about what happened after CoS. It doesn't follow the anime perfectly and parts modernize Amestria, but that's not what's important in the story. I hope you guys will give it a shot! three chapters are up so far (they're pretty short, don't worry LOL), its Romance/Suspense, and Rated T just to be safe (nothing major)

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4499226/1/After_Shambala

Imagining_Dark_Roses
Poor Roy, that's got to lead to some serious mental scarring.... and now i want to know who his finacee is!
Hey, does anyone own volume... 13, i think of FMA? Maybe 14. there's a quote from Arakawa inside it that i need. It's something like "Doing research for Ishbal, i talked to a lot of veterans. The one that moved me the most was the man who, sitting at his kitchen table, stared into his mug of tea and quietly said "I never watch war films.""? Anyone?
RoyxRizaFan
"The one comment that affected me the most came from a former soldier who lowered his gaze to the tabletop and said 'I never watch war movies'"
Imagining_Dark_Roses
ah, tyvm. needed it for an Ishbal tribute im making.
Turdaewen
Yeah... Arakawa did a good job with the war background! My grandpa is a veteran of WWII and, though he's a very tranquil person about it, you can see he got really scared by what he suffered there. He lost many of his best friends in battle.
His case was even worse than the FMA's scenario, because he wasn't even a military and went to war against his will.

But I still think Roy shouldn't blame himself for that massacre of Ishbal. It would happen with or without his help. That doesn't mean he's not responsible for it, but wars are always nasty business. And sometimes they can't be helped. It was not like he had any other choice at that point. I don't think acting like Armstrong would turn out any better or even differently.

As a generation who has never seen war, we will never fully understand what it really is like. We had so many efforts since the 50's to diminish wars and it has made a difference, but we can't hope to expect things will change in a fast pace when the people's point of view and principles will not. This is something larger than just a 'human weapon', which is what they were at the Ishbal massacre.
jacksparrow589
^Agreed.

I think that Roy is aware that he isn't singly responsible for the massacre, but he knows that he did nothing to stop it while it occurred. That's what he (and Riza, Armstrong, etc.) feels bad about. He went to go change things and wound up not being able to do anything. Thus, his guilt and his promise made their debut.

In history last year, my teacher told us that some of the soldiers from concentration camps in WWII were acquitted of their charges because they were only following orders and had been trained to do so, as if their own personal beliefs and judgement of right and wrong didn't exist. Basically, it wasn't their choice. (I'm a bit skeptical on that, but I won't deny that it is in fact possible under that much of a pressured setting.)
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