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Le Monkey
Wow, Very few people are Lib Dem nowadays.. Tis a shame..
Envy's lil' miniskirt
I'm an Independent since I washed my hands of all political groups long ago.

Here's my results.

Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.41

I'm hanging with Ghandhi. laugh.gif
MonsterEnvy
Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.00

I suppose that that's a bit extreme, meh?

I've always been an reverse socialist. Instead of communism contained within a capitalist environment, i've always believed that it's better to provide people with a communist framework that gives health care, living accomodations, and food to everyone, but then allowing people to get ahead by giving them the ability to get above the 'subsistence level' through employment and business. This type of economy would both pander to everyone's innate greed while first being sure of their social responsibility... there's only one country that approaches that, and it's actually China. Unfortunately, it looks like it'll become capitalist soon...
I could rant on that topic for ages, but I'll cut off there.
Carnal Malefactor
Actually, that's not China... that's all of Western Europe.
MonsterEnvy
nonono, you misunderstand. Western europe is socialist. The government I like is sort of the opposite- capitalism within communism instead of communism within capitalism.
Le Monkey
Past Result:

Economic Left/Right: 0.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.77

New Result:

Economic Left/Right: 2.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.64
mei_tenshi
Capitalism has no place in real communism. China's socialist, not communist, even though it was run by the Communist Party.
Carnal Malefactor
QUOTE(MonsterEnvy @ Apr 14 2006, 12:26 AM) [snapback]380410[/snapback]

nonono, you misunderstand. Western europe is socialist. The government I like is sort of the opposite- capitalism within communism instead of communism within capitalism.

...Suit yourself... but the way you described it is a pretty accurate depiction of Western Europe.
animefreak_zzz
Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.82

gee...closer to Stalin..
what does it mean actually...getting kinda confused... blink.gif
haha...but the results shld be accurate..since i understood all the qns.. laugh.gif
MonsterEnvy
QUOTE(mei_tenshi @ Apr 14 2006, 01:02 AM) [snapback]380449[/snapback]

Capitalism has no place in real communism. China's socialist, not communist, even though it was run by the Communist Party.

Of course not. True communism can never really work, because it assumes that people will work their hardest and be content with getting the same amount as if they slacked off, and be happy doing the same thing with no real hope in advancing in life.

Of course, capitalism doesn't work either because you can't simply be sure that people will have a social conscience if you let them be as greedy as they want.

So, the question is where we can find the happy medium.

Socialism is a mainly capitalist government with stricter laws than true capitalism about giving money to help the disadvantages and public funding.

On the other hand, the government I describe would fall more towards the communist end of the spectrum as opposed to the capitalist. The basic framework would be communist, yet also allow people to better themselves. it's a small distinction, but an important one. Most of the time, I think that it's better to be more communist than capitalist, which is why a more communist socialism appeals to me.
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