I believe in alchemist, but not FMA alchemist. You draw a circle and voila you get something lol. I would like to see someone who could success with that XD. Then everything in FMA is actually truth.

Anyway, i'm more interesting on the Philosopher Stone in alchemist. Like transmutate a metal into a gold hehe.

i convinced my friend to draw scar's arm on him. haha it was hilarious. he kept trying to blow up my head with his new arm. however, to counter my friend's new powers i drew transmuation circles on my hands and became that suicide bomber alchemist dude. haha. good times.

you sophomores have too much free time. XP

keep going. if you look up "pseudoscientific," it gives you this:

pseudoscientific
adj : based on theories and methods erroneously regarded as scientific.

Actually It's fission, And Yes one can make Lead into Gold, It's done when they need some for medical purposes, But You would not want any near You as It's HOT as in Radioactive and Yes It looks like real Gold.

Fire...is it

I didn't even bother to read all 6 pages of this. Alchemy is supposedly a science that some people could "do" in the, like people have said, middle ages. I don't think anyone should really try doing "alchemy." It'll save you some of your free time.

It was funny reading the first page though

Alchemy is not a dead science... I am 21 yrs old and go to Tram College, a college for the Esteric Arts (Alchemy.) Alchemy does use circles, big ones, small ones, any kind. You can transmute thing from broken down structures(matter) using spiritual energy. I'll check back in in a week to answer any questions. P.S. My Alchemist "code name" was given to me because of a lightning Alchemical reaction. They replaced my bones with metal ones.

Tram college huh......I've never heard of it. Do you know if there is a website for that college. I'm just wondering, cuz I would like to check it out. Hey, do you have any actual footage of you or anyone you know using a alchemy circle to transmute somthing. I beleive its real, but I have never seen actual footage of one being used (as of now I can't control my energy enough to use one, but hey I'll get there ). Also, are you just joking about your bones being replaced with metal, because I would think you are, but I'm not sure.

modern day chemistry evolved from alchemy. alchemy did and does exist in many forms unlike chemistry which is just focused on elements and physical properties alchemy has roots in religion astronomy mythology philosphy plus many others the use of transmutation circles are not used in alchemy the symbbols represented in the transmutation circles on fma are for the basic 7 elements named after the planets known during the 16th century they include silver gold and mercury mercury is also known as quicksilver in alchemic text

Just pretend! Like me!

Jkjk. But it'd be pretty cool if alchemy worked...

If youve ever cooked, that counts as alchemy
remember: Alchemy originated in the kitchen.

Argh...I've tried to draw a circle and such...Didn't look much like a circle...And,err, well, nothing happened when I tried! XD

Well actually I have heard some things about alchemy being real... one time I saw this documentary about alchemists and there was this one guy that was a little crazy and his house was filled with types of transmutation circles... pretty scary if you think about it...

Heehee ^^ That sounds like fun

Alchemy was tried many times in the early ages but it was shown that too little was made out of it, I believe. It was proven that it was almost impossible to achieve, and too much work was required to do so. So it was abandoned by scientists.

I think that's how it goes, correct me if I'm wrong.

i assume that alchemy of years ago was a form of chemistry and not just drawing symbols in order to manipulate something. Chemistry is quite capable of changing elements and in an "equivilance trade" style, but is by no means like that of the alchemy in fma.
it would also seem logical to say that if alchemy was succesful then it would probably still be going on today as the ability to create gold from lead would be something that the wealth fueled world we live in would most certainly be interested in.
If you're really interested in alchemy why not invest in a chemistry set and have some fun with that, it's not exactly like making a doll from a load of ash and a circle but it's still kinda fun.
Oh and a quick note, just cos the internet says it is doesn't mean it's true!

yeah I tried I few times

We did a thing on Alchemy in Science for a term, so I know some stuff.

The process of making medicine out of herbs and stuff can be refferred to as alchemy. So, in a way, people use alchemy every day. Now, making something by offering up something else which may be entirely different from what you want to make, even if it is of equal value, and making something out of it by drawing a circle or clapping your hands, that isn't real. Metal can be "transmuted" by using a particle accelerator in a laboratory, but the finished product is always fragile and subpar to what it should be.

Another nice example of alchemy is turning carbon into a diamond, this is done by filtering and purifying the carbon thousands of tmes, and then melting it down. These diamonds, however, lack some of the properties a regular diamond would have (i.e, would probably be more fragile, not be able to cut titanium etc.)

Now, as for trying alchemy myself, I drew a circle and clapped it for a comic effect when I was cosplaying Ed. Then some smartass pointed out to me that Ed dosn't need circles. ruined my whole day, that did. *sniff*

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omg.

From Wikipedia, on Transmutation:

The term dates back to the search for the philosopher's stone. It was applied consciously to modern physics first by Frederick Soddy when he, along with Ernest Rutherford, discovered that radioactive thorium was converting itself into radium in 1901. At the moment of realization, Soddy later recalled, he shouted out: "Rutherford, this is transmutation!" Rutherford snapped back, "For Christ's sake, Soddy, don't call it transmutation. They'll have our heads off as alchemists."

XD

Wanna learn how? Go to nuclear chemistry.
^^ I smiled whenever the teacher talks about transmutation in Chem class. Thats the only alchemy I've done and its not technicaly transmutation cos the elements dont change, the molecules do.

Alchemy in the FMA sence isnt real, dont make the mistake of thinking it is or was, it's like magic in Harry Potter. Alchemy in the historical/real sence is like an old mythology, something people believed in a long time ago. But now Alchemy has mostly been proven false. Some of the things the old alchemists wanted to achive can be done with modern science but their theories and beliefs have mostly been proven wrong with our current understanding of chemistry and physics.

Seriously? No. However, some of my friends and I, who watched the show, have taken to clapping our hands and pretending to detonate the other guy by shaking each other violently, a la Kimblee stye.

The closest thing to alchemy is modern alchemy, which involves a HUGE particle accelerator like Fermilab.... and involves a ton of equations that would probably make anyone's brain explode. That's why we have computers to do the alchemy for us.... *bows to the superiority of robots*

Besides that, you could have fun pretending you can do alchemy.... Or you can be like me and go major in chemistry, the next best thing *^-^*.... I'm only in high school now, but I'm planning to go into chemistry....heh heh. Don't tell my parents though, or they'll be banning fma from me forever.

^, Its not alchemy that they are doing, its just chemistry.
Dont mix up the two, Unfortunately Alchemy is a Mythical science.

*blush* yeah, I'm really living in my own world....heh heh heh

But chemistry is teh closest thing.... Besides, if I have to major in a science, I may as well try to like it... so yeah....

And if I learned anything from Frankenstein, it's not to get obsessed over alchemy... so I'll keep that in mind and be more realistic....

i read once that a homunculi could be created by feeding milk and meat to a Mandrake... (and blood among some other delicacys...) I never had a mandrake, but even now, I feed my plants with fruits and eggs every once in a while.

I've shaman notions and somewhat of a power bloodline, but I've never been too confident in magic or the like... yet sometimes I could swear the trees lend me some power...

I don't know if that counts as alchemy... I think not... but I do believe in magic and the power of mind, since I do some healing... reiki and I've also been victim of the dark side of the human mind.

And by the way... Did you know there was a scientist who was studying this kind of stuff in the 70's-80's? he was co working with some hindu scientists and much more people, they studied Lamas and Shamans, and even european and american mediums and psichics. His name was Jacobo Grinberg-Zylberbaum . (google his name, and you'll find his theories)

The funny thing is ... he dissapeared misteriously when his job was finally having ground.

freaky huh?

Don't do that...that's a waste of perfectly good food. That's a sin there, since I'm particularly fond of eggs and particular kinds of fruit.


If I were to smarmily tell you that I don't agree with the way you put ideas to feelings and gave you the reasons why, you would think that it's because "I don't believe in the power of the mind." I've read that twice already. Just what does that mean anyway? I mean that rhetorically!

The human mind has lots of powers that has nothing to do with "psychic" powers. But you'd rather be blissfully ignorant, conveniently ignoring the fact that the rest of humanity doesn't necessarily have to explain their spirituality or powers of intuition as a "psychic power" or act like it comes from some "shaministic power blood." In any case, I suspect that you have no idea what it is you're talking about, because your ideas are just that trite.

Here, let me demonstrate my faith in the power of my intuition:
I don't believe or think that you believe in the "paranormal" for any real reason except because it's "cool." I think your intuitive ability ranks far below mine because you like to conveniently assign words to things you yourself don't understand. Your tool of language ends up using you instead of you using it. You don't actually go into introspection about your place in the world, your identity or your spirituality. You're just some petty dabbler into the human experience.


No, not really. There are lots of people who have mysteries surrounding dissappearences or deaths or what have you. Of course, if it were easily explainable then it wouldn't be much fun, so people would rather speculate or weave conspiracy theories.

Of course we're going to talk about that unusual nut that died mysteriously, instead of talking about the other million unusual nuts that died in plain sight. Not everything has to be attributed to a conspiracy or the paranormal.

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I did alchemy! there was a textbook standing on the table in front of me, and I clapped my hands and whacked it and transmuted it into a fallen over and shut textbook!

Really, it's apparent that FMA-style alchemy isn't real. Actual alchemy is combining substances along with a type of mysticism and philosophy to try to create new substances, creatures, and gold, including the purest type of gold, the philosopher's stone.

Erp! Pure gold=PS!
Ougonjutsu=pure gold alchemy!

Sorry, manga theorizing...

Anyway, alchemy is sort of like pseudoscience, but it placed the foundation for a lot of basic chemistry.

I wish alchemy could exist. Ever since I watched FMA I started clapping my hands trying to make a transmutation. Or I would try to do what Roy does. Then again, if alchemy did exist, we wouldn't want some guy like Scar following us around trying to kill us . All I can say is that FMA is the best anime ever!

Really? I didn't know that... that's pretty cool! ^^

yah. I read something on alchemy in like 4th grade but I think it seems too expensive and time consuming for me to actually get into it. alchemy itself is basicly chemical and particle science. (and not like what it is in fma =P)

The problem is that 'Alchemy' in these days aren't called 'Alchemy' anymore.

It is know that in the acient times that alchemy was mainly used to turn cheaper and weaker metals into

a gold, which is impractical as the Law of Conservation of Mass states: The energy, mass,

material, and the atom are nor created or destroyed during the phase change. Also, the anime itself states

that in order to transmute something there has to be an equal loss!


Chemistry is, I believe, the closest practice of science as Alchemy. But... It's gonna be somewhat different

from the FMA.


P.S - Oh and I'm a new to this forum please visit my introduction in the Open Chat board.

I`m thinking that in the anime/manga, the alchemist must, in some way, create a supply of beta or alph particles when they clap their hands. ( Or, at least, in Ed`s case.) In that way, the rest is just nuclear fission and alpha/beta decay.

alchmey is real to an extent. yet, in the show its just a metaphor for the real thing. on the physical science side of things its almost like pre chemistry. but on the mystical side of this its a subconscious thing like finding enlightenment. the whole claping hands thing is just making a circle with your body and the object to show that you are puting energy into the object ot change it. so if you just clap and touch something nothing is going to happen even in the anime. magic according to most esoteric and occult religions (or whatever) is pretty much praying for something and it coming true. so fma isnt completley false but its still far from the truth.

yes i'v done alchemy. it is so fun! i once turned water into sprite! It tasted good! MY ways are a secret so i cannot tell you.

I've never done alchemy.
But I have been reading alot of books about alchemy lately.

well I guess cou can turn coffee into coke, too.

Never done Alchemy, but I did perform some chemical reactions in our chemistry lab.

It's not possible... I wish it is though lol. You can't draw a transmutation circle and make something no matter how hard you try in our world.

They are so talented -.- drawing SUCH round circles and straight lines. Not to mention the designs are pretty hard to memorize.

I think i did alchemy once... I drew a transmutation circle and then i put some chalk in it and did the magic hand gesture thing.... and then when i picked up the chalk there were little markings on it that weren't there before....

It's possible to do alchemy, just not like they do in FMA, it's more like chemestry, or medacine
It's not that hard to remember the designs, just memorize the 7 planets.... or 10 planets.

Hey,

If you get good at pyrokinesis, you could invite your FMA fangroup over after prep-maditating, then snap your fingers and light a candle, telling them that Mustang came to you in a dream


Just a thought

That's waht I did!

Anyway...

I tried to transmute copper(seriously) to any other kind of metal with the aid of an alchemy book in our library.

Of course, I utterly failed. I just suceeded to make the copper deteriorate with rust in just 2 hours.
(That's an achievement isn't it?)

Someone try putting Mercury coated in wax, then stick it in a pot of boiled burning water.

And tell me what happens.

Oooh! I've done alchemy once! I transmuted bread and some cheese spread to a cheese bread! Joking. Nah, I DID try to make a transmutation circle though! I finished it and lost it...

Alchemy is the origin of chemistry...

Well,what I did is i combined foods and I made a new treat! That's the alchemy that I did..anyways,combining and having a different result is my own interpretation of Alchemy.

Technicly I'm an Alchemist. My dad is like an all around genius and when I was small he was sitting at his desk reading books. I came over and looked at them. He smiled and told me about Alchemy. He had a few books and had a good understanding. Recently he found the books and gave them to me. It have a compleat dicionary of alchemical symbols. I'm going to attempt a transmutaion cricle soon....

Moving this from FMA Anime Japanese/Sub-title Audience sub-forum to FMA Anime forum front section.

I believe that alchemy has turned into modern chemistry.. I mean, now scientist can turn an element into another by decomposing it's atom.. besides Nature itself does alchemy all the time!!
all those radioactive atoms, like Radon and all those synthetically prepared, that decompose into other elements, That's alchemy!!
of course it has less magic than expected :>