This has been bugging me for a while...

Riza said at her father's funeral that she has no relatives that she knew of.. and said that her parents were estranged from their families. (Chapter 60) So what is all this about Grumman being her grandfather? I'm guessing he really is her grandfather, because the evidence is sorta there, I suppose... but why didn't Riza think of him? Or was it because she hadn't met him at the time.. or some other unknown reason? I have no clue, and I can't figure this out! Help?

I assume they all have gold hair and eyes at Xerxes too kinda like how white hair, red eyes, and brown skin is a trait of the Ishvalan people. I do wonder if Xerxes has any ethnic minorities, especially when one of Hohenheim's fellow slaves has dark skin? I wonder if she has the gold eyes and hair too? She could be mixed with Ishvalan for all we know. Can't wait for whenever it gets animated, that's for sure.

Edit: messed up link.

@hand-made-city - As far as I know, I don't think there have been any entries in the manga (or anime for that matter) to explain this clearly. But, as you posted, Riza and papa Hawkeye had been estranged from the family of Riza's mother's side, so, it's not far off to suppose that up to the time of papa Hawkeye's funeral there had been no contact between Riza and Grumman (if even she was aware that Grumman was alive, or in the military ...since papa Hawkeye seems to have had a negative view on Amestris military, or at least alchemists being "dogs of the military," it's not surprising if Grumman, who is the carrier military man, hasn't come up in the conversation between Riza and papa Hawkeye) hence, I guess it's not odd that Riza did not think of Grumman as part of her family at the time of papa Hawkeye's funeral??... I think.


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@_Mat - Since Gluttony has some "childlike" mentality, he may look her up as "motherly/big sisterish" kind of figure, and she responds to that as well, while other homunculi don't seem to care much about spending much time alone with Gluttony? (My guess. XD)

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Also..... _Mat and others who posted discussions on the relationship between Gluttory and Lust, I opened a new discussion thread for this topic (with _Mat as OP) and moved related posts to the new Gluttony & Lust discussion thread. Please continue this discussion there.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Thanks Tombow! I wonder how the two of them first met and what exactly their reactions were....

~ In What Chapter Do We Find Out That Grunman Is Hawkeye's Grandfather?, Question answered, please use FMA manga Q&A thread next time ^^ ~

In what chapter do we find out that General Grunman is Lt Hawkeye's grandfather? I have volumes 1-18 right now. And I try not to read scanlations if I can help it. But if it is a scanlation I will read it.

Where did you hear that Grunman was Lt. Hawkeye's grandfather? I've read the whole series so far, and there's been no mention of it... :/

There's currently no mention of it in the series, only in Perfect Guidebook 2.

The page with the pyramid-thing of the military ranks, the text above Grumman's headshot mentions this.

I've heard it. it keeps popping up in fanfiction and it's on wikipedia.

Wait..what? Since when was General Grumman Hawkeye's grandfather? Is that really true?

where can I find said guidebook?

Well, I think so too. As PrincessElir says, fanfictions keep mentionning that. I know it's fiction, but still, I don't think so many people would make up something like this.

Yeah that was my thought...so if it is in the guidebook 2 I would like to see for myself. does anybody have a scan of this?

huh, did i miss something? I can't remember ever reading dat

I am with you. I don't remember reading that either. But it keeps popping up in fanfiction.

Here's the page from the guidebook:



The text above Grumman's pic says that he's Hawkeye's grandfather on her mother's side.

Thank you, Hey!! Yap, this is the correct answer, and we have the page scan posted, along with the answer, on Q&A thread also. (BTW, I changed your post to larger font to show you had already posted the answer. ^^)


ETA: Thank you Michiyo-!! You're a wonderful help!!



Closing the thread.
I will merge this to Manga Q&A thread later.

If anyone has more questions on FMA manga, please post on FMA manga Q&A thread.


ETA: June 19, 2009 merged thread.

~ How Are Mei And Ling Related? ~

So here's something I don't understand;
Ling is the twelfth prince of Xing and Mei is the seventeenth princess of Xing, so that would make them brother and sister, right (maybe different mothers)?
But that's never been made clear and with them being enemies, they being in different clans etc... I'm kinda confused.

Re: How Are Mei And Ling Related?

@Yikie - I'm assuming they are half brother and sister, and the current Xing emperor has lots of lots of wives and concubines, and one of them is May's mother from Chan clan and another one is Lin's mother from Yao clan.

I don't recall seeing farther details on this in manga, but if anyone has better info please post and help.


BTW, I will merge this thread to FMA manga Q & A thread in a while.

Anyone who has any other questions on FMA manga, please post your question on FMA manga Q & A thread, and we'll try to help you there.

Thank you Tombow for answering my question ^^!

Re: How Are Mei And Ling Related?

Yeah, you know, this is also something that I've thought about. But they are only physically half brother and sister, they don't come from the same family. The king has a child in every clan, I THINK there are 24 princes and 19 princesses.

Re: How Are Mei And Ling Related?

mm I read some stuff up on this a long time ago, I can't really remember much of it now, but the system is apparently based on an ancient chinease system where the Emporer takes a wife (concubines) from different clans in the country and has a child with them. There could be loads of children, waaay into double digits. Anyway Ling and Mei share the same father but will have different mothers, so are only half-syblings, the reason for the enemyness, is that the succsor of the throne will be able to provide a better life for their clan, so there is a lot of competition between the syblings,since they're from different clans I expect they will have had very little to do with each other growing up.

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Re: Which senses does Al have? Which body functions can Al "do"?

I never really thought about it before...I guess I sorta thought of Al a bit like your typical ghost, ghosts as people usually portray them can hear and see, in other words 'observe' but are frequently invisible to other people and can not interact physically with objects. They don't breath and therefore can not smell either. It's not 'Al' people are seeing, it't the armour hes locked in, sooo yer thats how i thought of it.

I can't remember, where was it stated that Riza is Grumman's granddaughter?

It was never mentioned in the manga I am pretty sure but it's in the 2nd perfect guide book.

@Goral - Yap, Kirara is correct. ^^ Please check out my post on this thread here, then click on posted scanned page of Perfect Guidebook 2.
There is also another entry in the character encyclopedia section of the same book, and under General Grumman it again says he is Riza's Grandfather on her mother's side. And, since Perfect Guidebook 2 is one of the few official FMA guidebooks, I tread this as semi-canon fact even though this was never stated in the manga chapters.

Thanks for replies Kirara and Tombow. I regret though that I've learned about this via non-manga source. It would be so much better to read it in one of the chapters. My jaw would be definitely on the floor for a longer period of time. I'm sure Arakawa had a reason for not informing 'casual' readers like me about them being related (for now at least).

@Goral - You're welcome, and I totally agree that I would love to see the scene where General Grumman is talking this in manga chapter, instead of being casually mentioned in the character note in the Guidebook.

~ Has Winry Confronted Roy Yet? ~


I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this. ^^



But I'm reading the manga now for a while, and I want to know:

have Roy and Winry had a confrontation yet?

I know about the part when Roy was like
'Oh who's this beautiful girl? Blahblahblahblahblah.' when they arrived in central.

But has there been a longer confrontation? Do you think there will be?

what do you mean by 'confrontation' as in an angry i wanna kill you type way? XD *thinks* tbh i dont think winry and roy have that much to do with each other in the manga, winry and riza are friends but even then i dont think they have much contact, winrys not a soldier so shes not in central very much, i dunno, i cant remember the past manga too well, anyone correct me if im wrong >_<

I think that's propably the only time they met, but I might be wrong. It has been a long time since I read the early parts of the manga...

And if you're talking about the Rockbells' murder, it was done by a different person in the manga. And she confronted that person twice in the manga now.

From what I can remember, Roy and Winry have only met twice in the manga. Once when he came to the house before Ed got his automail and the 2nd time when Winry had grown up and said she was beautiful, blah blah blah. Other than that, Roy and Winry don't really have anything to do with one another in the manga. If you're talking about the confrontation I think you're talking about, the story is completely different in the manga than it was in the first anime, so there will be no confrontation.

@FMA-Girl - Umm... yeah, I guess you haven't reached the chapter for it yet, but if you don't mind being spoiled, please read the Spoiler part on Andie's post above, or Kyelinn's post above, because I'm guessing you are talking that Winry would confront Roy about the murder of her parents, right?? If so, no, that didn't happen. But if you keep reading manga chapters eventually Winry gets the chance to "confront the person who killed her parents."

Anyway, I think Andie and Kyelinn and I answered your question, and if you got more FMA questions, please post those on FMA manga Q & A thread and we'll try to help you there. Also, if you'd like to know more on FMA manga-anime (first series) story differences, please check out FMA manga-anime (first series) story differences thread.

Anyone who got FMA manga related questions, please post on FMA manga Q & A thread and we'll try to help you there.

Closing the thread. The posts here will be moved to FMA manga Q & A thread in a while.


ETA Sept. 9, 2009: Thread merged.

It's been mentioned in the other forum - but how exactly Hohenheim met Trisha in the manga version?

^The only time their meeting is ever mentioned is on this one page in an itty bitty panel.
http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/82/12/

But the Brotherhood series might just go more in depth about the whole thing.

Where is Selim's oroborus tattoo? Can't remember...

it hasnt been revealed (right? XD)

As far as I know, Pride's tattoo is yet to be revealed.

~ Wondering If Anyone Could Help Me... I Need The Name Of Mdm Christmas' Bar ~

Hi! I'm kinda new to the board, and I'm a fan fic writer... But anyway, I was wondering if anyone could tell me the name of Madame Christmas's bar/tavern. I think it was on chapter 62, but I can't remember. Any help on the name and perhaps a translation of it in ENglish would be really helpful! Thanks! = ^.^ =

Hi Wolf_Chimera, welcome! According to the newest official FMA Character guidebook that has all kind of info on FMA manga characters, the name of her bar in Central for Madam Christmas is, "Madame Christmas." Gahaha, yeah, that's it. This info is listed under Madam Christmas which you can find in Roy Mustang section of the guide book.


OT: BTW, I see you are a fanfic writer. We have a our own nice little Fanfiction sub-forum also, with a community of very nice FMA fanfic writers as our members. Hope to see your fics there also.
And, guessing from your avatar and sig, you're a Royai fan? If you are interested, check out our Royai thread in FMA Charcater discussion forum. It's the most active discussion thread in our FMA character discussion forum, and posters there are very very nice people, too. ^^



I'll keep this here for a short while, then move to FMA Manga Question thread.
Anyone with more questions on FMA manga, please post that on FMA Manga Question thread, and we'll try to help with your question there.

Lol, thanks for the help. Yeah, I needed it for one of my stories, actually... and yes, I'm very much into Royai. Lol. I look forward to spending more time in the forums...

When it will be ready, send a link in the royai thread! Welcome!

Thanks! I definitely will! It's about halfway done. ^^

^ You're welcome. Hope to see your posts around the forums. ^^

Since the question has been answered, I'm closing the thread. (You guys can continue the rest on Royai thread, right? )

~ Why Does Ed Hate Milk?, He should drink it, it might make him taller. ~

I was wondering, is there a reason why Ed hates milk. Does he ever explain why he does not like it, or is his milk hate always just played up for laughs?

maybe he doesn't like whole milk since they're in a rural area

Well, I suppose some people just don't like the taste. xD My sister is that way, and so are my cousins. Or maybe he doesn't like the idea of drinking "an opaque white liquid secreted by a cow."

I feel Ed's pain, I allways hated milk XD I was a stubborn child who refused to drink it, but when i was very young I used to automatically throw up the moment i drank it so maybe that had an effect XD I drink it now, but only for nutritional value or in my tea or to 'dampen' my cereal XD i like skimmed most, semi-skimmed is a bit yucky, full fat and anything creamy i wont touch its disgusting, hate hate hateeeeeeee!I think in my case its a bit of a family trait lots of people dont like milk, however despite been small myself, the fact Ed doesn't drink milk isn't an excuse for his height XD my cousin never drinks milk and shes pretty tall, she claims fruit makes you grow taller but er im not convinved... XD So yeah i get ya Ed XD

Maybe he was squirted by a cow when he was younger? I don't know, I love milk (anything other than full fat is bland to me)

Maybe the hate Ed harbours for it now will grow into a phobia - I have a family friend who's deathly afraid of fruit, who used to hate it with a passion when he was smaller, and as he grew became scared of it.

Though I'm not sure Ed being scared of milk will be beneficial at all to the plot line.

maybe Ed thinks that drinking milk insults him..... like telling him to drink it for his height's sake and so he just want to prove that he'll get tall in a natural way !

I love milk myself, but maybe the hardcore dairy fresh milk in Risembool is too rich for him. I'm drinking 1-2% milk most of the time.

~ Hawkeye Grumman connection? ~


I was looking at Fullmetal Alchemist on Tvtropes.org and caught the following:

(Trope: The General's Daughter)



http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main...eneralsDaughter

Um... what?