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hand-made-city
QUOTE (Sannom @ Nov 23 2009, 11:32 AM) *
Next chapter : Pride says "You've lost", Scar looks at his feet, says to May "Try to cushion our fall" and destroys the ground to land directly into Father's chamber laugh.gif I can just see Scar taking that kind of reckless course of action.


Hahah this reminds me of a question I had... why do they need to go through so much trouble to get to Father's 'lair' when it's just below them? Can't they just... take the stairs? laugh.gif Joking, of course... but the idea did strike me as funny.
whippersnapper
QUOTE (hand-made-city @ Nov 23 2009, 09:13 PM) *
QUOTE (Sannom @ Nov 23 2009, 11:32 AM) *
Next chapter : Pride says "You've lost", Scar looks at his feet, says to May "Try to cushion our fall" and destroys the ground to land directly into Father's chamber laugh.gif I can just see Scar taking that kind of reckless course of action.


Hahah this reminds me of a question I had... why do they need to go through so much trouble to get to Father's 'lair' when it's just below them? Can't they just... take the stairs? laugh.gif Joking, of course... but the idea did strike me as funny.


Haha laugh.gif That reminds me, where are Olivier and co going to end up? They are going down the stairs...
It'd be funny if they got to Father before Mustang tongue.gif (Not likely in my opinion though)
Sannom
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why do they need to go through so much trouble to get to Father's 'lair' when it's just below them? Can't they just... take the stairs?


The problem is : where are the stairs happy.gif ? Destroying the ground and landing literally on Father's head is faster tongue.gif
Jealous Rogo
This JUST occured to me, primarily because of this week's episode.

I said Scar was present for a reason, I assumed it meant he was going to be killed somehow, but I'm so stupid. Pride's turned up. Pride swallowed Kimblee. Scar's nemesis during the entire story is Kimblee. I'd say there's a good chance Pride will end up staying to finish off Scar and the rest of them: which includes Riza, whose nemesis is probably Pride in the long run.

Oh and Riza and Scar just happened to have had that little convo before hand - could that have been foreshadowing a double team on Pride?

Only reason I bring this up is Arakawa has always done a really good job of setting up character conflicts and so far they've all been resolved:

Mustang/ Envy and Wrath
Marcoh/ Envy
Olivier/ Sloth
Ling and Greed/ Wrath

So it'd be a shame and a missed oppurtunity if they didn't at least use Pride's presence as a chance to resolve Scar's conflict. After hearing Scar scream Kimblee's name this week, I really, really hope they don't miss this oppurtunity.
The_Twilight_Trinity
QUOTE (Jealous Rogo @ Nov 25 2009, 12:18 AM) *
Oh and Riza and Scar just happened to have had that little convo before hand - could that have been foreshadowing a double team on Pride?


Hmmm.... Interesting thought! I think that a Pride vs. Scar scenario is highly likely, though I'm not sure to what extent Riza will be able to participate--if she does at all. She's probably too drained at the moment to be of much use fighting Pride (she couldn't even stand up without being supported in chapter 101, after all....) But honestly, I don't know. I think that a Riza/Scar double team would make a lot of sense based on their interaction in chapter 98 (I think that was it....). It really would make sense for Riza to play some part in his destruction. I just can't see how at present.
Sannom
QUOTE (Jealous Rogo @ Nov 25 2009, 12:18 AM) *
This JUST occured to me, primarily because of this week's episode.

I said Scar was present for a reason, I assumed it meant he was going to be killed somehow, but I'm so stupid. Pride's turned up. Pride swallowed Kimblee. Scar's nemesis during the entire story is Kimblee. I'd say there's a good chance Pride will end up staying to finish off Scar and the rest of them: which includes Riza, whose nemesis is probably Pride in the long run.

Oh and Riza and Scar just happened to have had that little convo before hand - could that have been foreshadowing a double team on Pride?

Only reason I bring this up is Arakawa has always done a really good job of setting up character conflicts and so far they've all been resolved:

Mustang/ Envy and Wrath
Marcoh/ Envy
Olivier/ Sloth
Ling and Greed/ Wrath

So it'd be a shame and a missed oppurtunity if they didn't at least use Pride's presence as a chance to resolve Scar's conflict. After hearing Scar scream Kimblee's name this week, I really, really hope they don't miss this oppurtunity.


But Scar's conflict with Kimblee is already resolved. The day he looked down upon Kimblee, their roles completely reversed compared with the first time they met, Scar gave up on his revenge and decided to follow a better path. In fact, their roles were so completely reversed that the one obsessed with the other wasn't Scar anymore, but Kimblee. Look at Kimblee's expression on their last encounter :



Kimblee has lost. An absolute defeat against that Ishbalan whom he failed to kill the first time, who soundly trashed him the second time (not even using alchemy to land the winning blow), and who now looks down on him. Scar made him lose the composed, smug expression he always had before. He made him turn berserk. That's the best victory that one ever had on his nemesis in that manga. Mustang went lower to beat Envy, Scar beat Kimblee by getting higher, both literally and figuratively.

Scar will probably be key in defeating someone very dangerous, either Pride, Bradley or Father. In a big group battle of course, because none of them can be taken alone by anyone. But I don't expect Riza to play any part in this : like May said, it's only first aid. Riza needs to be taken to a real doctor as soon as possible. She's too weak right now to be of any help, I even expect either Darius or Zampano (or both) to be sent behind to find a doctor for her and Gelso.
Jealous Rogo
I never really saw that as a resolution to their conflict, but if that is the resolution it's not a bad one. I just think the fact Pride's swallowed Kimblee and is now standing before Scar would be a missed oppurtunity. Not to mention, the Chimera also have beef with Kimblee. Kimblee was swallowed for a reason, I think anyway.

Yeah on reflection Riza isn't going to have an active role during whatever comes next, but Pride and Riza's interaction has to be resolved.
Disasterpiece
just read the new chapter

.............

stonehead
QUOTE (Sannom @ Nov 25 2009, 10:34 PM) *
Scar will probably be key in defeating someone very dangerous, either Pride, Bradley or Father.


He still has to reveal his real name, and his objective would have everything to do with Amestris itself. So I guess, of those three it'll be Bradley.
archronos
QUOTE (heartwing713 @ Nov 22 2009, 07:25 PM) *
Thank you for that detailed post, sensenic.

Maybe I just missed something, but I still don't see how the gate would be opened by this. It sure doesn't look like Roy did any alchemy here. They called him a sacrifice, but I'm confused about that even. Why do they even need sacrifices who have opened the gate? It's been heavily hinted at that Roy is opening the gate here, in fact it's almost impossible to argue that he's not, but I still don't see how or why he activated the circle. But if someone else activated the circle, then how does that make Roy a sacrifice?


The circle is activated when Wrath pins Roy's hands to the circle, when Roy's hands make contact the trasmutation is activated using Goldtooth's body as the material transmuted. So in effect Roy is performing human transmutation on Goldtooth's dead body.

Also Roy is considered a sacrifice not in the sense of the transmutation that just occured but in the fact that they plan on him opening the gate in gaining the knowledge within. That's what makes him a 'potential' sacrifice for Father's ultimate goal (which hasn't been reveal yet). As of right now he's merely assembling the neccessary peices.
Forsaken Love
yah but surely Roy needs to 'want' to transmute, concentrate on transmuting, or as i said before a character like winry could touch a circle and have it work, which obviously she can't...they say that the stages to transmutation are understanding decomposition and recomposition, and the understanding part probably includes understanding the principles and concentrating on the creation of the end product etc which I just can't see Roy doing, like that damn chemistry test I had today, I know the stuff but if I don't wanna think about it awnsers won't emerge XD haha
Broken Chouchou
Like Forsaken Love said, it feels questionable that someone could physically force you into doing a human transmutation (or any transmutation, for that matter) against your own free will.

But it's already december, so soon we're going to find out! ^^
hawkflame
FINALLY caught up!

As a Hawkeye and Royai fan, this chapter was just full of win.
archronos
QUOTE (Broken Chouchou @ Dec 1 2009, 12:47 PM) *
Like Forsaken Love said, it feels questionable that someone could physically force you into doing a human transmutation (or any transmutation, for that matter) against your own free will.

But it's already december, so soon we're going to find out! ^^

good point

Still, I get the feeling that the whole who-transmuted-what question won't get answered and that we'll just have to take what we saw. I know Arakawa isn't one for plot holes but this seems relatively minor and unimportant in the face of what has happened.
hawkflame
So when can we expect Chapter 102 to come out? This is the first time I've caught up with the manga, so I don't know if it comes early, middle, or late in the month...
Broken Chouchou
The scanlations are usually available relatively early, or sometimes near the middle, of the month. I'd say, 10 - 15 December. If there isn't some special christmas thing that I don't know about.
Kuura
QUOTE (hawkflame @ Dec 3 2009, 11:19 PM) *
So when can we expect Chapter 102 to come out? This is the first time I've caught up with the manga, so I don't know if it comes early, middle, or late in the month...

Hahaha, welcome to the club! wink.gif Having only one chapter in month is just a torment. However, the next chapter should be around Dec 10-15, so we don't have to wait for long anymore.

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@Broken Chouchou: Arg, you were faster than me! laugh.gif
Broken Chouchou
QUOTE (Kuura @ Dec 4 2009, 12:57 AM) *
@Broken Chouchou: Arg, you were faster than me! laugh.gif


Muahaha! >:D
black~hayate
OOOH!!! Christmas!!!
I bet we will get something christmasish. Like a cover or an art with the next chapter.
Broken Chouchou
QUOTE (black~hayate @ Dec 4 2009, 04:43 AM) *
OOOH!!! Christmas!!!
I bet we will get something christmasish. Like a cover or an art with the next chapter.


You know what I am secretely hoping for? That Arakawa would have already finished the last few closing chapters of the manga, where the final act takes place, and that they would be released in a special christmas bundle! So that she cound end the series at the end of the year! That would feel fitting.

I know it's not gonna happen. But it would have been nice ^^
Forsaken Love
haha that would be nice XD but i don't want fma to end ;__; and christmas isnt very important in Japan so i doubt it XD allthough maybe for new years...NOOOO dont end fma ;__; I'm hoping when the main story is finished, she will occasionally release some side storys to tell us some more character background and stuff, or maybe some short storys on what happened after the main story ended?
Michiyo-
Next issue of Shounen Gangan will have the same cover as the upcoming Vol. 24. And here's a bad quality pic of the chapter title page:

Ed and Al sitting on the Sun God, Leto. Foreshadowing...
whippersnapper
@Michiyo: Thanks for the scan, interesting foreshadowing there.

I just re-read some past chapters recently, and found some details that suggest Roy's blood getting on the array is important.

So far, all transmutations we've seen involve the transmuter's blood. Ed and Al used their blood; Izumi used her own blood to transmute her child; and most tellingly, Father used Hoho's blood to open the gate. The only exception might be Ed opening the gate in Gluttony's stomach, but remember that Ed was hurt, and Glutonny's stomach was also a sea of blood.

Hopefully all this will be explained in the next chapter happy.gif
Forsaken Love
mm yeh but the blood was meant to be 'instructions' to the soul to be brought back, in the case of gluttoneys stomach, ed was remaking himself, so the blood was inside of him allready
Mr. Deathy
I think it has to do with a combination of Mustang's hands being forcefully placed down on the array, his blood being on it, Pride drawing the circle with his shadow (and Kimblee's alchemy knowledge) and Goldtooth being used for the transmutation...and the stone being involved somehow.

I don't even know if Arakawa will spend time explaining it much, she's in the climatic point of the story, perhaps it's better we just assume that combination works out somehow.




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OT:
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I give it at the most 15 more chapters.... sad.gif maybe not even that much.


You seriously think even close to that many?

I give it 5-6 chapters. There's not much left to tie up now and almost every chapter is going to be focused on tying stuff up. After the climatic battle I wouldn't expect more than a chapter or two of epilogue either.

If it goes on any longer the Brotherhood anime is screwed too, since episodes are animated months in advance of them being on TV (they're always working on multiple eps at once) so they always need to be a good 10 chapters or so behind at least. Within 6 months they'll probably be up to chapter 100.
Tombow
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I moved 13 posts with the off-topic discussion on "how many more chapters FMA will have?" to "How many more chapters do we have? thread.
Please continue that discussion there and save this thread for the discussions on CONTENT of chapter 101. Thank you. smile.gif
Mr. Deathy
Will the chapter 102 thread be open soon? I'm desparate to see some spoilers and usually they're out around the 8th - 9th right? At least lately since things have been growing closer to the end.
DistantBlue
QUOTE (Mr. Deathy @ Dec 8 2009, 08:24 AM) *
Will the chapter 102 thread be open soon? I'm desparate to see some spoilers and usually they're out around the 8th - 9th right? At least lately since things have been growing closer to the end.


Hopefully, when someone has found any spoiler summaries/pages.

Best place to look for now is in the Manga thread on this site, the FMA Spoiler Thread on mangahelpers, and 2ch, if you can figure your way around.

I hope it will be soon as well...I am looking forward to this very much, and I had forgotten with the hassle of my sister and I's birthdays on Sunday. DX Now I am soooo anxious! tongue.gif

Oh, and I will stay on-topic in further posts. Just wanted to answer Mr. Deathy's question.

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Ezupio
Maybe it's just like the "white fog" thingy from chapter 100 =D
Ropespinner
@ DistantBlue: Please do not post even possibly fake chapter 102 spoilers to this thread. I was assuming that I can read chapter 101 spoiler thread without worries if I've already read chapter 101, but I do not want to be spoiled about chapter 102 here!
Tombow
QUOTE (Ezupio @ Dec 9 2009, 06:43 AM) *
Maybe it's just like the "white fog" thingy from chapter 100 =D

Gahaha... actually... indeed (I think) it's the same poster with the "white cloud" chapter 100 fake-spoiler??? XD (though, the posted link for this one is for Google translation page, and not the direct link to 2-chan, and therefore it's a bit confusing and hence I can't tell for sure... tongue.gif )

Anyway, for chapter 102, let's wait for actual preview pages from chapter 102 to show up. ^^ (There are some trust-worthy Japanese sites where we can get accurate chapter spoilers, but...lucky for us... we've been getting the whole chapter raw sooner than they even post their spoilers on their sites. ^^)
DistantBlue
Oh, I'm very sorry! sad.gif That must have been very inconsiderate of me to do that.

Tombow - Gah, I thought I gave you the Japanese page, ha ha. Oh well.

I will delete my post. smile.gif
Michiyo-
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